Heavy support- 3 Long fangs + ancient 2 lascannons, 1 heavy bolter and 1 melta gun
Levi Nelson
This game will never be fucking balanced...
Dominic Martin
>That would require tau having a flaw. Can't have that now can we? So the battlesuits fuse to create mountain sized suits?
Kevin Price
>looking up land speeders on ebay >one seller has two sprue lots, full sprues >no chin guns, but nothing is missing from the sprues >freak out with batshit theories before realizing they're kits from the 90s
Sebastian Hughes
it shall be done. Orkperial guard here we go.
Jonathan James
All the taufags in the last thread were arguing that their worst units are mid tier.
Colton Powell
Tau are not mid-tier. Any tau player that thinks that is an asshole, but without formations, Stormsurges, and Riptide spam, they aren't so absurdly powerful that they will stop anyone without a challenge.
Vespids are 18ppm. That said, the only reason I don't field any is because their models are rare on Ebay and too expensive on GW.
Ryan Wood
>SW >No Stormwolf rape train How'd you manage to fuck that up?
Anthony Cook
The difference, I bet, will be all squads can now take an Apothecary instead of a Sergeant. Or something. All we know is Culln gets killed by Tau.
As for Red Hunters getting anything? Unlikely. Red Scorpions are FW's babies and they support them first and foremost. No other Badab War Chapter has models.. Though some DO have rules for them. I don't think Red Hunters do, as you say.
Perhaps when Badab War is combined like Vraks was for a 2nd edition?
Hudson Gray
>So new he colours in his list with crayons
How about you play a real Loyalist army, you god-damn heretic.
Zachary Edwards
storm wolf to expensive
Carson James
>Stormwolf rape train What?
Chase Ortiz
Congrats user. You've taken the first step into enjoying 40k. This game, like every other game, be it tabletop wargame, card game, video game or hell sports teams, nothing will ever be 'balanced'.
Sooner you accept that, the sooner you'll have more fun.
It's a fucking land raider in space that one shots eternal warriors like it just don't give a fuck. How is that too expensive?
Jack Nguyen
stormwolves are rape
Julian Stewart
Is it sad every time I think "explain" in my head when writing a post on here on in real life, I think of this gif and can hear the voice?
What's more autistic is, if I'm getting stressed or angry or worried or some shit, I say "The Emperor Protects" or "The Emperor" in my head.
Gabriel Cooper
>DA >loyalists Good one
Ian Martin
I think its a 1000pt list.
Don't bring Harrald. A wolf lord would serve you better. >Chainswords on TWC Nah son, hammers n shit. >Longfangs without a transport >troops without transports. Looks like you just lost a pack of BloodClaws chief cause LFs could get a drop pod or the Grey Hunters, cut further points for a rhino for the other. >flamers on Blood Claws Are you afraid of the dark or something?
Cooper Morales
>SW are far more loyal than dark angels nice meme friend
Gabriel Sullivan
Yeah that S8 AP2 Force a Toughness Test or Die is SURE FUCKING SHIT :^)
Oh, what's that? It also has SPONSONS AND 6 TRANSPORT CAPACITY?
Fuck off. GK and BA, hell most factions, would kill for that fucking versatility.
Landon Brooks
i mean in actual money terms, not point terms. I don't feel like dropping that cash. How is the list other than the lack of stormwolves
Julian Morales
As a Christian is easier for me cursing saying Emperor dammit than God dammid and other imperial cursings.
Brayden Green
Look, it's Cypher! He went that way!
Great, now that that faggot is gone, we can get back to our discussion.
Jason Taylor
thanks. anyways, the dark is spooky. what shouls I put with my blood claws?
Liam Powell
Glue some wings onto a shoebox. Everyone will know what it's supposed to be.
Tyler Gomez
>SW are far more loyal than dark angels.
We are so loyal we destroyed our own homeworld to make it more tactical in the battle against Heresy.
Meanwhile you heretical mutants spit on the Emperors throne as you accept creatures of the warp.
I know about that website, get battlescribe son.
Leo Edwards
What's the coolest faction to go for for a tank-heavy army?
What's the best color scheme for vehicles in general?
Andrew Morales
>letting a religion cuck your vocabulary >being an autist who actually uses 40k curse words in real life thats weak
Zachary Jones
>tank-heavy army? IG, duh.
>color scheme the one you like.
Jeremiah Martin
Eh. Still made useless by IH.
Still mad that Red Hunters are the only chapter that cannot use any named characters. Still mad that their second rule for their chapter tactics is now literally useless due to all Imperium armies being Battle Brothers.
Xavier Powell
IG Armored Battlegroup or Iron Hands.
Ryan Jackson
if you want tanks, run to the IG user, run and never look back. Anyways, for IG, good color schemes are normally some sort of metallic or camo, make it look gritty and war torn
Christopher Wright
>what shouls I put with my blood claws I mean, almost literally anything else.
and are me and I play superfriends but prefer DA fluff so won't help in fluff where I am being more loyal than you :^)
Noah Flores
Guard
The color you like you can go full operating and use digital camo or full girls und panzer and paint them golden and other bright colours.
Luke Long
Don't GK get Stormravens with Psycannons? And then Fighter Ace gives them a chance at ML2 with Vortex of Doom. That's every bit as fucked up as the Stormwolf.
Luke Roberts
even feathers for tickling?
Brayden Fisher
>2 ravagers spend 2 turns pounding 2 wyverns >all i get is a crew stunned and a glancing hit that is FUCKED
Bentley Murphy
for the wolf lord what is the best weapon option. black death, hammer or fangsword look pretty gewd.
Kayden Morales
>tfw you and your bros throw down $700 on plastic cocaine >tfw the LGS owner could've closed the store 1 hour into the business day because he made the sales goal on our purchase alone >tfw I have all that DE stuff to build
Joseph Martinez
>Hammerhead one shots my land raider turn one three games in a row that is also fucked
Eli Harris
Have you tried baking your dice to always roll 6s? That's the best way to deal with problems with silly things like "luck", "chance" and "randomness".
Hudson Ramirez
i dont want to do well always and forever but 280 points of models not even killing 55 points of something they're designed to kill is fucking frustrating
Aaron Wilson
>CSM >Tyranids >Dark Eldar
That sounds like a dream playgroup. You will all suck, but you'll suck together
Luis Watson
Nobody gets special Stormravens anymore other than the GK Formation that has Cleansing Flame.
Elijah Moore
That doesn't seem like that much. Is the wholesale price really that low? Why do I never see this shit on sale?
Ayden Cook
I have been using the Start Collecting Formation in place of my Superfriend's Allied Wolf Detachment but before that the blood claws I brought had a meltagun.
Though they had that because I had 18-24 other plasma guns on the field as well as 6Multi Meltas and up to 9 Grav
Though that is talking 3k+
I think your melta will get a loot more use and you can pop a bunch of transports with it as need be.
Personally I need to get transports for my grey hunter soons and I have been teaching one of my friends and he likes the space wolves so since I bought two of the start collecting he uses those 2 of the start collecting formations in a 1000pt list and it is actually pretty brutal. He could kit it out to 1250, 1500 with transports and a few models.
Kayden Ross
Sounds like Guard is the way to go then. Guess I'll have to start looking up what the interesting Russ variants are.
I tend to prefer more color than metallic or camo, although it might be a nice change of pace.
I suppose I could also justify some oddly bright color by calling it camo for some alien terrain.
James Nguyen
If you have the points I prefer the Black Death.
Joseph Butler
It's actually closer to $1000 on the table. We got it at 30% discount. And there's still more to come. The finecast stuff that other guys ordered didn't come in.
Liam Mitchell
Shit happens sometimes, it can't be helped. I've lost six models to Gets Hot in one shooting phase before. A game I watched had one Eldar player seize the initiative and then one shot a Tyranid Harridan with a Revenant Titan. Sometimes the Dice gods simply frown on you.
William Cox
Well, even without Psycannons, Vortex of Doom on a flying Land Raider is pretty fucked up. And even if you get a shitty roll on the Fighter Ace table, you're still going to get BS5 or +1 to jink.
Adrian Reed
well the most important thing is that YOU like the color sceme
Julian Myers
>superfriends >Superfriend's
What is this? Some sort of Space Marine conglomerate?
Lincoln Torres
It'll be fixed, most likely, some day.
I dunno user. 6+ FnP is nice and all, but 5++ on everything for free is better. Who knows though.
Tyler Allen
Thunderer and the plasma cannon one (starts with an A- annihilator maybe?) are the best value. Also, take a Baneblade. Everyone loves Baneblades. Even people that hate superheavies love Baneblades.
Nolan Lopez
>superfriends
I just call them that because that is what I am told they are but I combined my Ravenwing with Space Wolves and a White Scars Conclave. I dont really bring it all till 3k+ but with everything I can play 5000+ with it, moreso if I bring my *yuck* Deathwing.
I am considering working on a Hammer of Caliban which is the Armoured Task force of the DA and maybe get some scouts so my DW can go in a Landraider but I could also just bring an Iron Hands Allied detachment with a las pred or two and some thunderfire cannon since the DA dont get em.
James Powell
People love baneblades cause they are overpriced fragile trash
Christopher Allen
Is there any precident for marine chapters having vehicles with colors that are nothing like their armor? Like all blue weapons and black highlights and such, but with red vehicles and silver trim? I kind of want to do this, but I dont want to hear shit from neckbeards passing by who think I need to hear that I can't do that.
Andrew Allen
Yeah, I'd definitely like to get a Baneblade as a centerpiece for a tank battalion. It seems like a good fit.
Liam Perry
>starts with an A Nope, starts with an E. Executioner was the one I was trying to think of.
Gavin Price
Wolf Lord: 105 points Storm Shield (3++): 15 points Black Death (+2S AP2 +3A when out numbered): 25 points Wulfen Stone (Furious Charge to Bearer + Unit, Rage to Bearer): 40 points Thunder Wolf (+1S +1T +1W +1A +Rending to all melee attacks) 50 points Runic Armour (2+): 20 points
So, base Wofl Lord is S4 T4 W3 I4 A4. So, Thunder Wolf makes him S5 T5 W4 I4 A5. Then Black Death makes him S7 T5 W4 I4 A5(+3 if out numbered). Then Wulfen Stone makes him S8 T5 W4 I4 A6(+3 if out numbered) (and gives +1S to his unit). Counter-Attack means he always has +1A, whether he charges or not. So he's S8 T5 W4 I4 A6(+1)(+3 if out numbered). All at AP2.
Only downside? Unwieldy. You can swap it for the +1S AP2 sword if you want. The Wulfen Stone isn't a wargear item, so you can take it plus the one weapon replacement.
If you don't want the Wulfen Stone, drop it and replace it with a Plasma Pistol. You get +1A from two melee weapons, but lose the +1S on the charge and so does your, most likely, 3 TWC TH/SS bodyguards.
Eli Thompson
>post something in general thread >come back later in the day to see how the thread has progressed >it's a new one HOW AM I TO FLOOD THIS BOARD WITH NEWBIE QUESTIONS IF EVERY 3 HOURS THERE'S A NEW THREAD! So Blood Angel's get to use the Baal Strike Force detachment that gives your units +1 Strength. My friend is rolling CSM and wants to follow the Bringers of Decay chapter or whoever worships Nurgle in general. Is there a formation for him to use or would the equivalent be a Mark of Nurgle?
Jason Anderson
1. not that I've heard of but occasionally they might use campaign specific camo 2. what 3. what chapter pray tell do you hope to represent?
Aaron Campbell
>How about you play a real Loyalist army,
Please, Dark Angels are as loyal as a white girl in clear heels.
Austin Reyes
>not getting best tank
Plebs, the lot of you.
Evan Morales
He could use the purge detachment, gives him some fancy flamethrower ammunition and a load of elites which he can use to fill with units of death guard. No fast attack slots though, so he can't use nurgle bikers in that detachment.
Gavin White
>not a stormsword PIG DISGUSTING
Bentley James
>When user posts the wrong tonk
i gotchu user
Oliver Wood
None, just my own made up one. I am not happy with the way the painting method makes the vehicles blotchy. I supose I could just use a different shade of blue, but I would have to repaint them.
Joshua Edwards
Macharius Omega is the best tank. 60" S7 AP2 primary 3 means you have a 20% chance of exploding a land raider and you're nearly guaranteed to kill it in two turns.
William Jenkins
You could always fluff that as part of their traits >they run vehicles with divergent paint schemes
Also I suppose you could always fluff it as the chapter's tech priests being particularly honored with the distinction that their vehicles were painted red like their color of office.
Justin Foster
Can you gun fire different modes? No? Well then! Does it even have a model user? :^)
I'm sorry, I don't recognise the army that is for. Is it Iron Hands or something? They like machines.
Justin Evans
>s7 >killing a land raider nigger what
Ethan Scott
not a terrible idea. Say that they do it to honor the mechanicus.
Robert Martinez
>Not 22" average blast diameter power armor shredder Why even bother?
Andrew Butler
you let your enemies take cover saves? of course it has a model you fucking lunatic
Charles Morales
Hey guys,
I wanted to get some 40k books from the library but I haven't looked or kept up with the literature for a really long time. Back ~8 years ago I read these prodigiously and when through the Gaunt series, iron hands, and maybe some space wolves novels.
Is there a list of recommended 40k novels that anyone can link me (even shitty info-grams)?
Anybody have any recommendations for good authors, and authors to avoid?
I'd really appreciate it because I'm going through a stretch of utter boredom right now.
Alexander Hall
72" Range, S8 AP2, Primary 2, Massive Blast (7")
OR
96" S10 AP2 Primary 1 Apocalyptic Blast (10")
I then add two Sponsons, make one of them Targeters for +1BS and laugh as I melt entire MEQ's and multiwound fools from the other side of the table.
Eli Harris
Primary Weapon gives it an addition d6 for armor penetration. Melta at 60" range is fucking delicious.
Carter Sanchez
Cant use Spawn either.
CSM dont have any formations worth building, just have your friend use a CAD. Id suggest using a Sorcerer and Chaos Spawn.
Parker Green
I know it does user. I'm being facetious. Just like the other guy I replied to. I don't honestly think it's Iron Hands.
Nathaniel Morris
no it doesnt you mongoloid, it lets you roll 2 dice and pick the higher result for armour pen, its ordnance that doesnt cripple your tank
Asher Hughes
Yeah, so it's basically the same as the Macharius Omega (which also has an S10 AP2 mode), but 200 points more expensive with nothing really to show for it.