>General Rules This is NOT /tesg/ minus waifus, so behave properly. No waifus or husbandos except for Haskill. Keep the MK/Lady N related squabbling to a minimum.
First for Morrowind best setting >ash yams >slavery >ebony, glass, egg mines >emperor parasols >Bitter Comfy Coast >Dagon Fel >Jump spells >Spears >Dank lore unspoiled by asspull retcons
Thomas Johnson
And you would be right.
Matthew Young
Too soon?
Lincoln Watson
Too early. It's only 8 here on the east coast. I guess that means it's like 4am on the west coast.
Grayson Reed
How much tougher then steel is ebony? Is glass tougher then steel? Why isnt dwemer metal betterr then it is?
Brayden Hall
>clapistan is the only country in the world
Henry Clark
Shout-out to the UESRPG team for having one of the best TTRPGs I've seen. Been spending a lot of time recently researching game systems for making one of my own and there's a ton of good ideas in there.
Lincoln Clark
because linear progression of equipment
Wyatt Scott
This thread belongs to the Order of the Black Worm.
James Bell
>implying every country in the world doesn't belong to america
Connor Rodriguez
No, Morrowind is the only country in the world you n'wah.
Elijah Carter
>Bitter Comfy Coast N'wah, swamps aren't comfy. Azura's Coast, Ascadian Isles, Grazelands, and even Sheogorad are comfy.
Chase Brown
Can somebody explain Lord Jornibret's Last Dance to me? I feel like I'm missing something.
Connor Thomas
Nth for lizard tiddy autism.
Jeremiah Carter
>literally tumblr Refrain from that 'round these parts.
Ryder Martin
They're fun to laugh at.
Benjamin Diaz
Nth for Black Marsh doesn't deserve sovereignity
Brody Green
How did he not tag it #lizardtitties
Sebastian Cooper
Maybe not IRL but vanilla Morrowind's earthy green and brown bogs, stumps, mossy trees, rainfall, ruins half-sunken in the mud, it's ultra-comfy. Now that I think about it, Boethiah's shrine is sunken so far down but doesn't appear to have sat on its own island, does this mean the shores of Vvardenfell, or at least the Bitter Coast region, have sunken since the days of Veloth? Was Vvardenfell part of the mainland prior to some point in the Merethic?
Zachary Miller
Dwemer metal is old and unserviced and all the good stuff has been taken/broken already?
Aaron Ross
>Was Vvardenfell part of the mainland prior to some point in the Merethic? Before an eruption of the red mountain, yes.
>swamps aren't comfy Come to Finland and I'll fucking fight you n'wah youtube.com/watch?v=kQqlOYExL9k 1:30 onwards for best shots
Brandon Sullivan
Sunk in the water, water is memory, lost in the water, lost to memory? I don''t care for Kirkbride's tomfoolery, but that kind of makes sense.
Carson Campbell
First of all. That's not a swamp, that's a lake. Second of all, cold marshes and hot, humid marches are different.
Henry Ross
>metal >unserviced What And the stuff is perfectly fine. Buy you solid dwemer metal here! Perfect value for its weight!
Bentley Turner
How good is it for stickin up me ass?
Joshua Wilson
Solid 10/10.
Aiden Parker
It's actually a lot of trouble choosing the right words when translating from Finnish, in English a fitting word for it might be a bog. See there's a whole bunch of words describing wetlands in both languages. Wouldn't you agree it's pretty comfy though?
Sebastian Gonzalez
Yes Until mosquitos find you
Hunter Kelly
Damp is not comfy.
And mosquitos
Joshua Jenkins
It's really jut metaphorial (yes, I know metaphors are beyond the ability of the more literal-minded people in lore debates)
Thomas Gomez
It's really not.
Grayson Rivera
>It must all be literal There's a neurological cause to that limitation.
Dominic Lopez
It's only ever been implied to be literal. That's why we're talking about it. If it was just metaphorical it wouldn't be lore. It would just be a random metaphor.
Kayden Baker
>Everything weird must be metaphorial
Jaxon Watson
>There is no middle point
Carson Miller
>It's another MK metaphysics wankery episode
I want MK to leave
Logan Phillips
bring up a topic
Christian Torres
non-beastfolk slavery
Jason Parker
It's justified.
Uh... How about Bosmer. Exactly what circumstances would make the Bosmer go through a wild hunt? Makes it seem as if it's an I-win button for whenever they get fed up with the Empire, alternatively the Altmer.
Ryan Ortiz
>MK lore That's TES lore.
All of it. Let's be honest. At least all of it that's worth discussing. Him and Kurt.
Liam Hall
Something extremely big.
For the record, the Wild Hunt is MK lore.
Sebastian Bell
But that's not what's being said.
Grayson Parker
What about it?
Liam Parker
MK metaphysics wankery doesn't equal MKs other lore.
Josiah Clark
Are they just harder to enslave, are there treaties?
William Martin
The metaphysics and the lore are inseparable.
Bentley Edwards
Mass deforestation of Valenwood
Ethan Kelly
They can't be enslaved under the laws of the empire, along with anyone else. They are prized in Morrowind, but I think also illegal (not so for the beast races).
Isaac Hall
No. Cool mushroom houses and the split between colovian and nibenese cultures are very separable from the three people who formed Talos, and Atmora freezing in time, and similar.
Ethan Morgan
Not really.
Ignoring the fact that MK had a hand in all four of the things, Talos and the formation of Talos has had heavy effects on Cyrodiilic culture.
You know, like it not being a jungle.
And Atmora freezing in time is why the Nordic empire came to be, which is why Alessia's empire came to be.
Logan Cooper
>Ignoring the fact that MK had a hand in all four of the things Not the point, as I've already said t b h
>Talos and the formation of Talos has had heavy effects on Cyrodiilic culture. And you can still discuss Cyrodiilic culture without trying to wrap your head around it.
>And Atmora freezing in time is why the Nordic empire came to be, which is why Alessia's empire came to be. Indeed, but that's like claiming that the ancient hellenes are inseperable from mormonism.
John Edwards
>mike >ɯike >v v i k e -> v i v e k >vivec fuck i only realized this now what a cheeky cunt
Jaxson Reyes
How? He was a lead developer on Morrowind (mushroom houses), one of the main authors of the PGE1 alongside Kurt (Colovia and the Nibenese), the author of the metaphysical texts on Talos that appear in the games, and the first to introduce the idea of Atmora frozen in time to the community, a concept that dates back to around the release of Morrowind within Bethesda.
You can talk about the little details of anything without the knowledge of anything deeper. That doesn't mean you should limit yourself to that. Talos is inseparable from Cyrodiil, but not in the way Reman is. It's his empire, after all.
It's not even confusing.
I'm just saying it's an important factor.
Levi Williams
Someone in a previous thread mentioned it was an actual name.
Judging by the theological influence on Almsivi, I wouldn't doubt that's the source.
>I-win button It's just the Bosmeri version of a suicide vest.
Tyler Butler
Speaking of, who do you think it makes more sense to see go blood-simple on Nu-Cyrod?
The Nedes, or the Bosmer?
Noah Gonzalez
I find it hard to believe a Wild Hunt would ever be a full on thing in Valenwood. It's likely something a tribe or a group of tribes agree to when pressed against the wall. As things get more and more desperate for the Bosmer, Wild Hunters become more and more frequent. Non-beastfolk slaves are definitely going to be much harder to come by then beastfolk ones. Khajiit slaves are generally sold to Dunmer merchants by their own kind in Elsweyr, while Argonian tribespeople are just straight up captured and sold. Both actions are likely illegal but the thing is that their is likely no one to really stop it from happening. At this point, most slaves are likely beastfolk bred in Morrowind. There are probably a few Non-beastfolk slaves who find themselves captured after waltzing through the wrong parts of Elsweyr, but most non-beastfolk likely sell themselves or their children into slavery to pay off certain debts (which is likely itself illegal in anywhere other than Morrowind). I'm also sure many an unlucky nord hunter finds themselves in shackles after wandering too far over the morrowind border.
I have no idea why the Dunmer don't seem to try and enslave orcs.
Nathan Campbell
>I find it hard to believe a Wild Hunt would ever be a full on thing in Valenwood That's actually almost a thing that happened, or at least was an idea at one point which, because of it, would have resulted in Valenwood being sealed off as a "haunted province" post-Oblivion crisis.
Nicholas Stewart
>I have no idea why the Dunmer don't seem to try and enslave orcs. This puzzles me.
And I still find the amount of Khajiit slaves too high, given the distance.
Henry Moore
More opportunistic Khajiit actively deal with Dres slavers in southern Morrowind, where the slaves are then taken by boat to Morrowind.
Parker Cox
It's the bosmer version of a full-tribe chimp out.
Brayden Reyes
Which results in their own death, hence suicide.
Jordan Sanders
>I-win button Don't forget that in "A Dance in Fire" (uesp.net/wiki/Lore:A_Dance_in_Fire), the Wild hunt, after all the enemies are gone, starts eating itself appart in blind rage. It may be an I-win button, but the chances of you coming out alive of a wild hunt are pretty thin; so it isn't used all that often.
Austin Hill
So the ogres of Drad were pivotal in the great war due to the natural barricade they made for Hammerfells border.
All seriousness, why don't ogres and orcs make alliances?
Matthew Long
>I have no idea why the Dunmer don't seem to try and enslave orcs. Because there's few Orcs in the region, and Orcs don't have an established slave trade that we know of. Also, the Orcs arguably have closer ties to Imperial institutions like the Legion than Khajiits or Argonians.
It's MAD.
Landon Brown
Waughin Jarth is easily one of my favourite in-universe authors.
In general, Ted Peterson is one of the best devs the series has had, and he's not given nearly enough credits. Let me just list the books he has written:
The Argonian Account The Exodus Purloined Shadows 2920, The Last Year of the First Era Ancient Tales of the Dwemer The Armorer's Challenge The Axe Man Biography of the Wolf Queen The Black Arrow Bone Breathing Water Brief History of the Empire The Buying Game The Cake and the Diamond Chance's Folly Charwich-Koniinge Letters Cherim's Heart of Anequina A Dance in Fire Death Blow of Abernanit Feyfolken The Final Lesson The Firsthold Revolt The Four Suitors of Benitah A Game at Dinner The Gold Ribbon of Merit Hallgerd's Tale The Horror of Castle Xyr How Orsinium Passed to the Orcs A Hypothetical Treachery Ice and Chitin Incident in Necrom Last Scabbard of Akrash A Less Rude Song The Locked Room Lord Jornibret's Last Dance The Marksmanship Lesson Master Zoaraym's Tale The Mirror Mystery of Talara Mysticism Night Falls on Sentinel Notes on Racial Phylogeny The Old Ways Origin of the Mages Guild Overview of Gods and Worship Palla Poison Song Realizations of Acrobacy Response to Bero's Speech The Rear Guard Silence Smuggler's Island Surfeit of Thieves The Third Door Trap Vernaccus and Bourlor Withershins The Wolf Queen The Wraith's Wedding Dowry
And that's just what he wrote for Morrowind and Oblivion (he also wrote 38 books for Daggerfall).
Juan Jackson
Rain is comfy though.
I like my weather like my trees. Dank.
Matthew Reed
>Walk home from work in the rain with coffee, listening to Tomppabeats. >Get home, take a hot bubble bath with incense burning. >Heat up dinner and put on a cup of coffee. >Light a few candles >Wrap up in a soft blanket >Sit at my throne, get on /tgesg/. >About to continue my adventures in Morrowind.
Life doesn't get any better than this. How are you doing today, /tgesg/?
Eli Gomez
>How are you doing today, /tgesg/? I'm doing fine. Right now I'm procrastinating while listening to podcasts, and afterwards I'm going to try to learn GURPS. TES-related, I'm going to finish a thing I've been making for the thread, and read the first of the two official novels. Oh, and I have a Daggerfall playtrough I keep getting distracted from.
Wyatt Fisher
What podcast? Yeah, I'm not the hugest fan of Daggerfall, but I do really like it. As much fun as it can be once you dive in, it's pretty easy to forget a play-through.
Dominic Hernandez
Norwegian News/Political podcast. In terms of podcasts in English, I follow a lot: Lore, Welcome to Night Vale, System Mastery, Generation Why, Sword and Scale, Tanis, Black Tapes, Film Reroll, and a bunch of others. I've become really used to just constantly listen to podcasts over the last few years.
>it's pretty easy to forget a play-through Yeah, that's sort of the problem. I'm feeling more of a pull to play one of my current Morrowind characters, but I think I'm going to force myself into playing Daggerfall until I get into that character again. It bothers me that I'm so prone to leaving characters/games and forgetting about them.
Oliver Phillips
>and Atmora freezing in time That one's news to me.
Tyler Gutierrez
>tfw you had multiple Khajiit questions after last weekend's thread and can't remember any of them
Brandon Cox
I wanna know why skyrim and oblivion didn't have regular cats
Noah Wright
It's good to hear from you again, euro-user with excellent taste. Yeah, I listen to Nightvale and Sword & Scale as well, along with a few others. >I'm feeling more of a pull to play one of my current Morrowind characters I definitely agree with this.
Connor Bell
Probably what said. Though there may be a cultural influence as well. I'm not an expert on the history of slavery, but I recall learning that native american peoples were considerably more difficult to enslave - particularly the men.
>head cannon: Stronghold Orsimer - in addition to the obstinate and moody nature that all individuals of their species seem to possess - value the dominance of the patriarch to such a high degree that the idea of obedience to a self-asserted "master" is so foreign they are particularly disinclined to shoulder the yoke of slavery as compared to more liberal races.
Eli Allen
Too bad, user. I like answering to the best of my ability questions about the Khajiit.
>moebius Now that's some cool art. I can definitely see some Arzach in Morrowind.
Tyler Gonzalez
>procrastinating while listening to podcasts I normally clean my house while listening to podcasts. In-fact that's normally the only time I do. Ted Peterson/Waughin Jarth is my waifu.
I always wondered if Waughin was a Nord or a Breton. The name is ambiguous enough, but I'd lean toward Breton because of his profession.
Jace Edwards
I imagine because it'd be awkward af t. Daggerfall:Jokes
Isaac Perry
>plantigrade khajit and argonians
I always preferred the digitigrade versions. made them seem even more alien, more their own thing
Ethan Cruz
I was actually the user who dumped a bunch of Moebius to show how much Morrowind's art design was inspired by it.
I'm also the user who used to smoke weed and play, one of the first guys to post in these threads, and a few other anons as well. But if I wanted acclaim or to be a special unique snowflake namefag I wouldn't be posting on here, so I'll shut up about it.
Justin Brooks
christ that cat is NOT happy with those pancakes
Jaxon Campbell
It's because they were made with regular sugar instead.
Leo Diaz
>Waughin Jarth He's great. I also like how he's referenced in Father of the Niben (which wasn't written by Peterson), showing how he's an respected figure. >Waughin Jarth, I have been told, in writing his well-regarded series on the Wolf Queen of Solitude used over a hundred contemporary narratives. Jarth deals in both fiction and historical works, but he's absolutely a great scholar.
He's a Breton, by the way. Interview With Three Writers: >The man on the left - >S'Reddit gestured to a jovial, jowly Breton. >Surely needs no introduction. Waughin Jarth has been a literary treasure of Tamriel for decades, one of our most celebrated, most prolific writers, having graced us with "The Asylum Ball", "Dance in Fire", "The Wolf Queen", "Feyfolken" and many others.
Landon Howard
Is it just me, or are the artists of Legends under the presumption that Altmer are white?
I get that their description in Morrowind described them as pale, but I always thought of it as pale-gold.
Ryder Lee
Elves in Legends are just white dudes with pointy ears. Oh, and some of them have grey skin.
Logan Nelson
>Anequina Desert and rocky highlands giving way to savannah, for some reason I imagine it very tilted, with the northernmost parts of the subprovince much higher than up than the highest peaks of Pelletine, the Halls of the Colossus overlooking the entire subprovince, nestled in the mountains, with various gulfs and canyons carving their way through the desert, where alien plants and creatures flourish, undisturbed and in fact completely ignorant of the world above, pic related.
>Pelletine The southern half of the province, it is practically idyllic on its' coastline, with palm fronds lazily swaying over the azure waters of the Topal Bay, although its vast sand shores soon give way to dense, although not practically tall jungle, more or less completely flat and completely dominated by the more or less tamed wilderness, large swathes of it cut down and replaced with solitary settlements and plantations, oftentimes next to the beach, or the uncommon but not implausible natural bay. It gives way in the west for a shallow bay, filled to the brim with islettes and attolls neither Khajiit nor Bosmer can claim. This bay generally signals the border between Valenwood and Elsweyr, but neither Bosmer nor Khajiit seem to notice this.
>Valenwood Dense and unforgiving, Valenwood is said to be as tall as it is wide, the canopy of the massive trees overshadowing another enough for sunlight itself never to reach the actual ground. Well, what passes as ground. Large, slithering roots acting almost as bridges over faintly irridescent muck, tons of dead or dying animals, plant life, and dirt simmering and making the ground floor, that alternates between soft dirt, to outright liquid. The weather's tropical and unpredictable, and massive trees are flung haphazard by violent storms, laying draped between branches in the dark undergrowth. The entire province is often drenched in rain and wind, in storms that come without warming, and can last between minutes to weeks at a time.
Asher Collins
>tfw chose bosmer in skyrim as my first tes because they were the closest to legolas I hope they do more with the bosmer that isn't wild hunt or cannibal stuff
Hudson Wilson
Oh, cool! I'm a pretty big fan of Manmer. They've already done quite a bit. Especially in terms of metaphysics. That's why I'm not that afraid of TES VI: Valenwood.
Jack Brooks
All that's reasonable, but it's a long way from the goggle-eyed fantardery expressed in Altmer range from pale yellow to dark yellow. They get called 'golden rod' as a racial insult.
Parker Thomas
>golden rod >not bananamer
Ethan Russell
IIRC they came to me when reading the Lleswer page from the 2nd PGE so I'm giving it another look through. The 2nd PGE is about forgotten scifi shit Tamriel got up to during the 1000-year Dragon Break right? I think one was simply what's the distinction between Elsweyr and Lleswer? I assumed the latter was some metaphysical Khajiit moon colony named for the former but funnily enough the part where the author says that you literally cannot explore the province unless you're a psychopomp or a junkie is the only part where he spells it the usual way.
Also something about Rid-T'har-ri'Datta. Something big...
Henry Hernandez
Thanks to a gratuitous amount of Fryse Hags, I now have 30 something Winterwound Daggers.
What do?
Aaron Baker
>Dance in Fire
Bosmer confirmed worst race
Nolan Turner
Sell most to Scamp or Mudcrab merchant. If you don't have mods to give them more money, keep some in a box and sell when they restock. Of course it always helps to have one live with you.
I'd also keep one or two for decoration/as a backup weapon, if you use Short Blades.
