Orc lives matter!

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When in LoTR do orcs kill other orcs? they uriki kill orcs and shit but thats like saying when dwarfs fight humans or elves fight goblins that evles are dwarfs are just killing themselves in droves.

>When in LoTR do orcs kill other orcs?
Yes, often, they care little for the lives of others and are greedy, quick to anger and spiteful

Pls go and stay go, you dumb down the thread with your presence alone

In War-hammer Humans kill Humans in way greater numbers with pure intent of killing each other.

I-It was a joke about how black people kill each other by the thousands..

"could i get a specific event?"
you gave me a weak description without even a single situation.

did you know Toilkin can be quoted saying he is disappointed at what he did to orcs?

Did you know that tolkien can be quoted saying that he is disappointed with his entire work?

>"could i get a specific event?"
No, if you want something work for it yourself you lazy cunt

"i cant bother to prove my point! especially if i need facts to back my fake ballistics! i just wana talk shit out my face and not be corrected or asked to not be a dumb cunt."
if you dont want to discus go to /b/ they love people like that.

Orcs are one of the least sexist races.

actually i think anything not human or dwarf is one of the least sexist races...

>i cant bother to prove my point!
Yep, if somebody asks me if the sky is blue I'm not gonna get into a lab for it I call him an idiot

You are an idiot.

> if you dont want to discus go to /b/ they love people like that.
Considering that your knowledge of the settings you chose to use as examples is as big as the average 14 year old tard from /b/ you might feel better there

>hurr durr warhammer orks and warcraft orcs don't kill orcs

Kill yourself

There's no need to preserve the feminity of orcs because they pretty much have none
Just like there is no point in preserving the masculinity of elves because they also pretty much have none
Do you see where I'm going with this?

What's that, some sort of Goblin?

I think you mean millions

"no you!"
good comeback. do you know anything about any lore?

The sky is blue because the particles in it absorb all colors except blue meaning they reflect blue like any other object. due to air particles lack of density you can still see though it.... didnt need a lab bitch.

>didnt need a lab bitch.
But what if I ask for proof? :^)
Retard

Once again, if you think warhammer orks or Lotr orcs don't kill others of their kind regularly then you have never read through much ork-related lore of any kind as pretty much every social interaction in warhammer between orks is connected to fighting or killing

an orc would run an inn very well. Could stop any ruckus and knows his beer, probably would work best with a dwarfs who tend to really know beer. i could imagine it being the best bar for adventurers.

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... Have you been sitting in on my sessions? My group has two PC's, an Orc and a Dwarf, running a pub. Other than the occasional human supremacists shitting up the place, it's going pretty good.

Uruks are orcs and orcs are goblins in LotR. Saruman just figured out how to make his orcs tougher and stronger but they're still orcs. They call themselves the Fighting Uruk-hai because they think they're hot shit.

The fight which broke out in Two Towers between the Moria orcs and the Isengard ones was basically a gang war.

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...so you found me on Veeky Forums now did you john? ill have you know i came here for personal time!

Also the scene in Minas Morgul in Return of the King

wasnt that orcs vs uriki or goblins?

i was saw a goblin slap a gnome! those goblins are slapping any goblin they see!

Remember when Frodo was captured and two groups of orcs butchered each other because of a chainmail shirt?

Uruks are still orcs.

The conflict was between units, the survivors just happened to be different subspecies.
IIRC one band was based in Morgul while the other was some sort of patrol.

ALL THE BOOKS I HAVE READ!
here is a movie scene and another movie scene!
wasnt that a uriki and a goblin
uriki and goblin
uriki and goblin.

"BUT BUT BUT! i cant tell the difference!" so? doesn't make you wrong just makes you ignorant.

>my ideas about fictional races that have gone through multiple interpretations is the only correct one.

I suppose the adage of "Depends on the setting" doesn't mean much to you?

no they are not that is why they have different names.

humans and dwarf are the same race right?

Why would you call them uriki? Are you some sort of faggot or something?

In fairness for many fantasy races they're more or less human with added/subtracted/altered traits.

-Description in the hobbit strongly implies that infighting and violence is common among orc
-Ugluk killing Mordor orcs
-The garrison massacring each other over Frodo's chainmail
-the orc tracker shooting the his partner after arguing

Also, Uruks are still orcs, just larger.

What the fuck are you even saying?

a description from the hobbit about the book that they fucked up about a race toilkin fucked up.

i dont remeber the orc tracker scene but everything single one of your LoTR examples is orcs vs Uruk hai.

not only that but you only listed LoTR. and Humans in that any every other setting are way more self killing.

WE WUZ ELFS N SHEEIT

>clearly stated to be orcs in all the source material
>n-no, they're something else because they have a special name

most of that was me making fun of the other scrub and repeating myself in the same post so i didnt have to do it again. not that it matters that retard is a wall.

>spells it "uriki"
>thinks uruks, orcs, and goblins aren't the same thing
>calls other people scrub and retard

no. no not elves Orcs a different thing.
but druids and faires and anything fae is the same thing right? trees are dirt and water is fire and oh wait no

i mean drow are elves and faires are too, so sure fuck it.

>only can quote the movies
>claims to know lore.
>posting meme faces because cant disscus

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"In The Lord of the Rings, Orc is used predominantly, and goblin appears mostly in the Hobbits' speech. The second volume of the novel, The Two Towers, contains passages where "goblin" is used to describe Saruman's Uruk-hai as being different from the usual "Orc":
>There were four goblin-soldiers of greater stature, swart, slant-eyed, with thick legs and large hands. They were armed with short broad-bladed swords, not with the curved scimitars usual with Orcs: and they had bows of yew, in length and shape like the bows of Men.[11]"

Uruks are just big orcs. Which means they kill smaller orcs a lot. It's like in gang wars, where the giga niggas are the ones bullying the hood rats.

They look a little different but the contrast is not nearly as drastic as you claim. By no means are uruks and orcs as different as elves and dwarves.

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>a description from the hobbit about the book that they fucked up about a race toilkin fucked up.
What?
Also both Shagrat and Gorbag (the captains of the orcband who fought over the mail) were Uruks.

>that edit

*orcbands
One being a tower garrison in Cirith Ungol, one a patrol from Minas Molgul.

A relatively valid point. But that doesn't mean orc lives don't matter. In Elder Scrolls and Warcraft orc lives are a great value.

You asked for examples for LotR.
I'm not familiar enough with TES or Wasrcraft to give any input on those, though in WC1 orc lived defenitely did not matter.

Orc lives don't matter in WC1 and A lot of 2

W3 through the first half of WoW Orc lives matter

Cataclsym and beyond, it's gone full #OrcLivesMatter where orcs continuously act as aggressors but Blizzard (i.e, Kossak) always paints them as persecuted good guys.

This guy gets it. Pic related.

>no they are not that is why they have different names.
Orcs have many different names in the lotr books, orks, goblins, etc.

Orcs are the some of the most powerful warriors who will help fight the burning legion.

In CATA the alliance start invading everything breaking peace treaties. And had plans that attack orgimar. The horde fought off the alliance invasion base by base till they got to Theramore a city being used to invade the horde. It was a threat an the start of the problem. Garosh broke no treaties that the alliance didn't already destroy and only went it to protect itself. Any other acts in mist the alliance would act first with the horde following in the interest of self protection due to the alliance aggressive intents and invasion.

Of the orcs never came and fought in WC1 2 then the alliance would have never formed and the horde would never have been there to help save azeroth and kill old gods.

barafag plz post more

>like Orcs
>don't want to participate in thinly veiled /pol/ meme thread

Did somebody say 'People who did nothing wrong thread' ?

>Retard

then we just point to the body of well established and peer reviewed scientific literature where they documented how this was determined.

Goddamn man, don't deliberately be an idiot.

there are no paladins in the elder scrolls universe.

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"Uruk" literally means "orc" in Orcish, you dumb fucks. "Uruk-Hai" means "great orc".

No they don't silly. Only black lives matter. Our future God-Presidentess was cristal clear on that.

>average fa/tg/uy

>Orcs are probably some of the best paladins. especial if your a fan of elder scrolls and their orcs

True indeed, they can be proud and noble defenders of nations but more often than not they are crowded around a fire waiting to deprive somebody of their hard-earned belongings.

But ALL lives matter, ya greenskin dingus :^)

Orcs are basically the niggers of the DND universe. Anyone who would defend them deserves death by them.

B E S T

F U C K I N G

P O S T

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No it doesn't, "hai" means "people".

"Uruk-hai' means "orc-people".

Saurman's "fighting uruk-hai" were not the first time that uruks had been bred on Middle-Earth, either; there were Black Uruks of Mordor which had been created by Sauron or even Morgoth ages before.

And the great trolls of Mordor, the olog-hai, their name likewise means "troll-people" or "troll-folk", with "olog" being the Black Speech form of elvish "torgg" (horror, monster) which Tolkien ostensibly "represented" in English with the word "troll".

Likewise, both "orc" and "uruk" are fundamentally the same word in-universe, but "uruk" is Orcish/Black Speech, "orc" is Westron/Gondorian, and it comes from Elvish "orqui" (ogre, demon, scary-thing-that-lives-in-shadows). Tolkien uses the English word "goblin" again to supposedly represent the in-universe, technically untranslatable words the characters are using.

* "orqui" being Quenya of course, "yerch" was the Sindarin cognate.

>everyone itt comparing orcs to real life niggers

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this dude sounds like he knows his shit. so i ask dose all that mean Uruk-hai fighting goblins/orcs is no the same as saying orcs fighting orcs due to the actual and named difference in race?

I would assume because uriki is close phonetically to how the poster says the word. Probably the poster has never actually seen a written source and relied on either on the movies or oral tradition from their peers.

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It's just pit-fighting dogs eating mutts, user.

What you interpret as "named difference in race" isn't about race at all, it's about different breeds.

Regular orcs/goblins are essentially feral dogs that combine a wide variety of abilities and attributes, while the Fighting Uruk-Hai are a specially bred caste of military core units.

So Fighting Uruk-Hai killing lesser orcs is still dog-on-dog violence, with one dog being a trained warhound and the other being a scrawny streetmutt.

I mean in countries with feral dogs it's actually better for the human and dog population to have the scrawny weak breeds killed if not wiped out.

Orc deaths matter you mean.

They do, Dwarfs on the other hand...

ALL DWARFS ARE DIGGERS.
DIGGERS DIGGERS DIGGERS.

6 million?

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Is . . . Is this bait?

I'm concerned that everything you are posting is so wrong.

>orc lives
>matter

But there isn't a malevolent consciousness willing all of those digs to start toppling governments

Hello /pol/tv/r9k/int/his/ my old friend.