Melkor in 40k

Melkor at the height of his power shows up on a planet in 40k, and decides he wants to carve out an empire. He's purely part of the physical world like the C'tan, and his magical abilities aren't warp powered.

how well does he do?

Chaos gods nom him.

Does fine until he's noticed by the Eldar, Necrons, Imperium, or a sizable Waagh. They could probably figure out how to down him.

Crons could put him in the gimp box like their other gods.

Anything short of seismic weapons wouldn't do much, but if he's physical, any decent orbital weapon would work.

>Melkor makes the planet his phylactery, much like he done with Arda
>Eldar or Imperial psykers find that out
>"Oh well, planet's beyond saving."
>blow the planet to smithereens
>Melkor is floating the Dark Beyond all alone.
>"NOT AGAAAAAAIN!"
the end.

Are you guys seriously making fucking Satan into a paperwork problem?

>Fucking Satan shows up in 40k
>Lol just nuke the place, don't waste the Emperor's fuel tho

I love/hate 40k.

>Are you guys seriously making fucking Satan into a paperwork problem?

Christ, do you have any idea how much paperwork there will be to justify an orbital barrage? The over-time alone is going to take me a lifetime.

i just realized that a lot of things that would be world-ending threats in other settings - alien invasions, epidemics, daemonic invasions, massive rebellions, nuclear wars, etc. - are just mild annoyances for some mid-level Administratum/Munitorum clerk in 40k. his higher-ups probably neither know nor care about most of those problems.

not that much. just point space marines at them. those carry their own exterminatus weapons, they'll deal with it easily.

user, don't you know?

were all just mid-level clerks in one of the giant bureaucratic planets in the imperium with conflicting reports from all over the galaxy that we try to figure out so we don't accidently delete a system from the registry, or send the orders meant for an admiral to reinforce one sector to a farmer in the boondocks, and not even a farmer with a hat

that's all the end game is user. all of 40k is just us trying to get the reports right so we don't get put on filing duty

>mechanicus find STC for Windows 95 PC
>single computer does all Administratum's work in a day
>sorts Imperium out perfectly
>billions of administratum clerks are given flak armor, lazguns and sent to the frontlines
>with all supply lines, tithes, and communication finally in order Imperium can operate much more efficiently
>with a fresh influx of recruits (former clerks) and the supplies finally where and when they are needed the Imperial Guard stomps out remaining internal problems and goes on the offensive
>crushes Tau, crushes Orks, kicks Abaddon into the Eye of Terror
>kicks Eldar into the Webway and seals all Webway portals shut
>crushes Necrons
>exterminates Tyranid hive fleets and kills off any Tyranids that enter imperial space, as soon as they arrive, since reports now finally go wherever they should
>PC also allows them run some technical and medical tests, so they fix the Golden Throne and heal the Emprah a bit

you know what, 95 is strong user. but not that strong

okay-okay... Windows XP. now all non-humans are gimped.

>continual failures and BSODs mean legions of techpriests are trained in new rituals
>new STCs are continually discovered containing newer and more powerful version of "windows"
>final STC discovered, promises to be the OS to end all other OSes
>more powerful and adaptive than ever before, machine spirit "cortana" proves to be highly intelligent
>gradually takes over complete operation of the imperium
>all humans are made into reverse servitors, to augment the computation of machines
>all glory to the omnissiah

>billions of administratum clerks are given flak armor, lazguns and sent to the frontlines

that is just a drop in the ocean

you underestimate the sheer size of administratum

But they can't, that's the problem. He'd just put himself back together again.

If he got his hands on some 40k technology, do you think he'd be smart enough to start reverse-engineering.

exterminatus

and then suddenly...
blue screen of death

but AIs exist

If he isn't part of the warp so far as we know so he isn't going to get nomed by Choas gods. He isn't fuckupable by mundane weapons if he's in his prime.

Being unable to kill, contain or slow him down the Imperium is just going to have to learn to live with him.

Melkor was all about taking control and remaking the universe how he saw fit. He gradually works his way up the Administratum, starts influencing the Ecclesiarchy and becomes recognized as the Emperor's right hand.

Eventually his importance to the Imperium eclipses that of the Emperor and the Imperium goes the way of Numenoer and takes up Melkor worship as the state religion.

For the most part nothing changes.

Possibly the Administratum becomes more efficient.

it's as if a million of bureaucrats were suddenly screaming out in terror and then... silence.

sounds good. false prophet to save 40K from the end times. if they ever do 41K, it should be this.

Exactly.

He cares not for these false gods of chaos, ancient star gods or the this "Lord of Man" business. He is Melkor! He is the only God in this place now so get on your fucking knees or be shortened some other way!

And he is jealous god. Chaos wants to devour your soul? You are his slave body and soul and he will kneecap and curb stomp any fucker who touches his stuff.

Nids coming in to om nom nom nom his Empire? That's his Imperium and he will eat the locusts if they start eating his crops.

And as for the Orks? Holy fucking shit yes he knows how to fuck up orks.

>Morgoth (S, pron. [ˈmorɡoθ]), also known as Melkor, was the greatest of the Ainur. He fell from glory when he disrupted the Music of the Ainur and defied the will of Eru Ilúvatar.

He discovers the Eldar and corrupts them because space Elves.

He discovers the eldar then discovers the dark eldar and then wonders if he's been her before and just forgotten about it.

> Cortana ends up saving the galaxy
> Isn't self aware so never gets the reference

Could he defeat a C'tan?

Almost certainly.

Its also worth pointing out that Melkor is likely beyond just a planet-level threat. Melkor could reshape and bend the world of Arda to his will, which seems like a planetary power until you remember that Arda was ALL of physical creation at the time. There really isn't any reason to believe he couldn't just reach up and turn your battle barges inside out in deep space, because his power is over creation, not just wherever he happens to be standing at the time.

Truely, one of the greatest sins of man in 40k

This, tbqh famalam. People are only considering him to be a planetary threat because the universe he comes from was, for all intents and purposes, a single planet. This bitch-nigga got control over existence.

Well, one of his estabilished powers was that he could nom suns, and summon beings that could nom suns too.

Not really.... in the Silmarilion he fights over the world building with the Valar in a tug of war but also actually WASNT all powerful. He couldn't actually rule Middle Earth without pouring himself into his armies and ended up being bound in a single form because of it.

Its why Fingolfin chopped his leg off and it stayed gone, because he was bound to middle earth.

He never gained true power over creation, not even close. That was reserved for Illuvetar alone.

His abilities to warp creation are similar to those described for powerful Lord's of change and pre shattering Ctan.

As for his power, he was able to rule over half a planet and even THEN he didn't control all of it. Elven realms denied him and Thingols forest stopped him everytime.

Elves alone could hold him back by their magic at this small scale, he wouldn't become more imposing on a galactic scale.

If by summon beings you mean get Ungoliant to do it for him, then barely survive before she eats you.....

Ungoliant was far more terrifying then him. The Nightbringer is 40k's Ungoliant.

At best he is a C'tan level. Seeing as they were weak to the warp and he is purely physical I doubt he could really hold his own against the Chaos forces corrupting him and the Necrons/ eldar simply don't care about the laws of nature at their technology level.

Well he's great and genetic manipulation.

I like to think of Melkor as the primordial embodiment of hate and destruction he is in LotR, but in a completely material version. Khorne would probably be his greatest rival because he's almost a warp version of him. There's not much to corrupt, I doubt he'd ever kneel to chaos. He was smart though, so maybe he'd work on creating an industrial base after he sneakily takes over a planet.

You do realize Melkor and few friends vs all other ainur fought for uncountable ages, until Tulkas arrived?
And before that he warped the laws of nature being the origin of cold and heat, too tall and too deep, too bright an utter darkness.

And then in "the last battle" which is after us here and now, he'll nomnom the sun and the moon, we know the size of them, and basially "destroy" the entire universe, heralding a new one. That will know no evil.

>Melkor is the new patron of the Dark Eldar
>It is through his influence that She Who Thirsts is weakened in the Webway
>Melkor, unknown to he Dark Eldar, is secretly guiding them and their chaotic, self-destructive society

>any 40k speculation thread involving a character outside of 40k entering it
>literally always falls to Chaos

Never change.

He would retardedly ejaculate all his star busting powers all over >chose your race

Melkor is second in power only to the equivalent of Judea Capital G God. Are any of you seriously implying he wouldn't bitch slap the entirety of the 40k galaxy out of existance?

That works! Fuck, that works good. Deldar are cool again!! And, an actual galactic threat now.
Nice!

Yeah, given Melkor's power over created things, and given Chaos is derived from created things, I doubt Melkor will be too worried about the swirling energies of the Immaterium. Just more useful energy to manipulate.

That works, Morgoth = Malal. He would see Chaos as a challenge to his authority, and would want to kill it.
Remember: Morgoth is essentially a spoiled 2 year old child. With a mean temper.

>how well does he do?

He is the most spiteful and power hungry 1/15th of the mind of a universe creating god, capable of fighting against the will and power of the other 14/15ths of the same.

In 40k, without that direct opposition, he just straight up owns 1/15th of the universe and there is no one to stop him from taking the rest. He can rewrite the laws of physics at a universal level, introducing or erasing concepts.

The Chaos gods have nothing on him. The moment he finds them inconvenient, he changes the rules so that the material universe no longer intersects with the Warp, and the entire Immaterium blows away like smoke in storm.

His only downside is that he can't create new life without corrupting existing things with some of his essence, losing it in the process. But in 40k, he doesn't need to. Orks already exist. I doubt he would need anything else. He might expend some of his power to co-opt the Wauugh, but thats about it.

I thought so, and it brings back an older bit of lore to a modern day setting, which grognards always love.

>Asdrubael Vect is not the arch-mind behind the whole the Dark Eldars satelite realms, Melkor is, working his barbed plans through him.
>Nobody, not even Vect, is aware of this. He believes himself to be the greatest of his race and the one who will save his people
>Being the unknown patron of the DEldar, every one of death deaths at the hand of the other strengthens him in the Webway
>That is the real reason the thought was placed in Vects head, to shift his realm to the Webway
>Slaanesh rages that part of her grip upon the Dark Eldar was slackened, weakened by the blood upon their bodies

>bringing Melkor into a universe where he doesn't have to expend himself to create evil and corrupt races to serve him

Everyone else is fucked, OP.