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>At least in older editions this was pretty clear, as their prayers could not blocked by your opponent.

1ed WFRP treated clerical magic exactly the same as regular, but with an added 'Did God Ignore Your Prayer' chart.

This. For my own 2 cents, I prefer the idea that there are no gods and it's all magic.

>Quantity over quality is literally the worst way to fight undead.

Nagash is literally one of the greatest wizards in the setting, it's hardly a balanced example.

Second for noise marines

Question Time for Warhammer Fans:

If you were going to make a comedic slice-of-life show set in the Warhammer World, who would the stars be?

trying to learn the table top and get all the necessities. Do 40k spell/fire templates work for fantasy? I can get 40k ones for $5 and would rather use nice plastic instead of the crazy metal ones for fantasy.

A friar tuck style Bretonnian peasant, or perhaps a Don Quioxte knight.
An Empire wizard or greatsword
A wandering wood elf
A slayer
A Strigoi that's lost most of his memory and is used to humorous effect

Thanquol and Ikit. Would pretty much be pinky and the brain.

I reckon I figured out how to make Enemy at War's characterization of Karl-Franz work with 2e lore.

Karl-Franz, in Enemy at War, is being poisoned by warpdust. His ambitious nephew (and heir), Wolfgang Holswig-Abenaur comes to Altdorf to declare himself Lord Protector as Karl-Franz has been increasingly isolated and sick.

Keep all that the same, except make Wolfgang not his heir, just an ambitious relative. And make Luitpold young enough that he won't factor it. Karl-Franz is sickly and dying (from poisoning) and young Crown Prince Luitpold is only seven, and thus his Lord-Protector cousin, Wolfgang, arrives to protect him.

THIS ACTION DOESN'T HAVE MY CONSENT

Did wood elves gifted Deathclaw to Karl? I thought he got griffon when he was kid, also what was purpose of WE protecting and watching over him his entire life?

S'gon be rape, then. Okay.

I'M GONNA GPAPE YOU IN THE MOUTH

Technically he did get the griffin when he was a kid. It was just the wood elves who gave him the egg. And he fights against many of the same enemies they do, but they don't have to hold the Empire's hand like they have to keep watching to make sure the Bretonnians don't get uppity.

Yeah, they do.

Who would you cast?

>What-what are we doing tonight-night, most splediferous of splendid Masters?

Sounds like it could work, but it may get a little twisty towards the end. It all depends on if you can get your players there. TEW is a hell of a campaign.

>when he was a kid.
He wasn't emperor until his 30s in 2502. I think that episode happened in 2503 according to WE calendar.
I hope CA will make references to their friendship when wood elves came out.

SIGMAR FORBIDS THIS

i love the way empire generals say that
its as if you lifted their metal skirt to reveal their Emperor Karl Franz™ brand pantsu and it embarrassess them

Karl x Naieth OTP.

Is there any newer art of her?

I miss the days when Karl Franz was a great politician and not a raging super Sue.

Its Warhammer after all, every ruler should be exceptional fighter.

The "Elector count" title is hereditary, but the "Emperor" one?

That's the thing, not all of them are. Lizardmen don't exactly have one leader but Mazdamundi is a Slann and has a skink to get into slap fights for him. Same with the sorcerers who rule Zharr Naggrund. I'm not sure if Finubar is anything special compared to Princes as he hasn't had rules.

Back in 6th Karl was nearly killed by some literally-who warboss, and he even had Ghal-Maraz with him. Sigmar had to bail him out. I just always saw him as a shrewd thinker who got Leitdorf killed, that would delegate and not ride out on a dragon to show what an awesome warrior he is too.

It's been known to pass from father to son, but the other Electors have to vote for him.

>poisoned by warpdust
>poisoned
>not developing awesome powers and/or mutations from it

man-things so pathetic

Don't make it warp dust, make it some kind of obscure Cathayan/Nipponese poison.

>but Mazdamundi is a Slann
Slann not known for martial skills, but for best magic use, he wipes out armies by himself.

>Finubar
He doesn't but his wife has, and known for leading armies in battle.

>I just always saw him as a shrewd thinker who got Leitdorf killed, that would delegate and not ride out on a dragon to show what an awesome warrior he is too.
He is one of two persons in Empire who rides dragon.

isn't she a redhead?

finubar has a wife?

?

What are some fun careers for WFRP 2e? I need a backup for the eventual death of my current character.

The Phoenix King and the Everqueen are only required to be married for one year, during which they must produce a daughter who will become the next Everqueen. After that they are free to marry whomever they choose.

I was referring to fighting physically.

Marine and work your way up to Sea Captain. I started out as Soldier first and then moved into Marine but it was still the best character I've played.

Aside from the obviously superior roleplaying experience of the trollslayer, I'd have to say that marine or seaman look fun. Also the hedge mage is rather interesting.

I have been considering one of the seadog careers, maybe it's time to try one out.

I would love to try the trollslayer just to see how long i can last, problem is our current campaign is a long one so people get to use a certain amount of XP to catch up and i don't wanna cheat past the advancements for slayer.

Alternative i can just say fuck it and try jumping straight into things with trollslayer and see how long he lasts against our current enemies.

just gotta be careful with typos
playing a "hedge MAZE" is less fun

You could have the best of both worlds and play a dward seaman or marine, and if something appropriatly shameful happens along the way you can shave your hair and take the Slayer Oath.

>dward

>similar to dwarf, but not as soft
cool

Veeky Forums on mobile is suffering.

My dream campaign is something like all sailor party and the setting is like pirates of dark water.

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Which faction most deserved an update before the squatting and why was it Bretonnia?

Which older faction deserved to be resurrected and why was it Chaos Dwarfs?

Which faction from the lore deserved to have a new army and why was it Cathay?

Have the empire and kislev fought each other?
Have the empire and brets fought each other?

if so please provide examples.

>cathay
no

yeah

Yes.

No you filthy gook. Its either all of them or none at all.

Bretonnia was over ten years out of date and anyone who felt that ogres needed their own book deserves a lance to the face.

My group's favourite campaign was about pirates working for a Norscan captain. By the end we were all mutants and had done some pretty crazy shit. I punched Ikit Klaw in the face and stole a prototype mechanical arm from his workshop.

During the years preceding the formal formation of Kislev, the Gospodars waged war against the Empire. Tzarina Katarin's blade, Fearfrost, was used in many of those campaigns. I don't believe they fought after they became a true nation.

Bretonnia and the Empire have fought several times. There have been battles over Marienburg and a battle of Norduin in which super Karl broke the Bretonnian lines and forced them back. The canon of this battle is dubious as it is quite old now.

>Cathay
yes, another game universe needed asia theme park. with pandas and red color everywhere. *sigh*

All of what?

nips and ind and khuresh and araby
and hobgobla khan.
more about norduin please.

>asia
you mean china.

i mean asia. in such things it always ends up as generic mix of china/japan/korea/tibet. oh, WHFB would probably avoid having katanas in Cathai, but only 'cos there's Nippon.

If all you can picture is "Asian theme park" then that's all on you and your shit imagination/lack of historical knowledge m8

Ogres have been known to use 'Cathayan Longswords' that are essentially katana.

>nippon total war
>YOOOOO starts playing

There isn't much to tell. I think it was mentioned in the 7th edition Empire book under Franz's entry. He lead the Reiksguard and forced the Bretonnians to quit the field.

oh, i know enough. i know what that stuff becomes in games. see WoW Mists of Pandaria for most glaring example.

exactly what i'm talking about

>ladyfags outridden by the based reiksguard
good.

>Pandaria is literally mao's propaganda poster complete with absence of swallows and gigantic vegetables.

>I would love to try the trollslayer just to see how long i can last, problem is our current campaign is a long one so people get to use a certain amount of XP to catch up and i don't wanna cheat past the advancements for slayer.

Best campaign of WFRP I've ever played was going through the Slayer career. You won't regret it.

Our current game looks like it's going a similar path. We've set up a trading post in the Under Empire and we're sailing in search of resources that could prove profitable down here. So far farming giant spiders has been the only option we've considered pursuing.

>Which faction from the lore deserved to have a new army and why was it Cathay?

Nah mate, I reckon Kislev needed it. Cathay should have gotten one eventually, but they should have done a Warhammer: The Dark Orient campaign and made up armies for Cathay, Ind, Khuresh and the Eastern Steppes.

Fucking Hobgoblin armies, fuck yes.

Fuck yeah.

Question - in broad strokes, how would you set out Cathay, Ind, Khuresh, Nippon and Araby as armies with distinct feels that didn't infringe too much on the current load?

Except Cathay is a huge empire whereas Ind, Nippon, etc. are smaller nations. If any Eastern nation ought to be represented it is Cathay.

>Back in 6th Karl was nearly killed by some literally-who warboss, and he even had Ghal-Maraz with him
That Warboss was fucking huge and if he didn't die in that battle he would be a pretty important named character. He was also leading a WAAAGH that could have wiped out several provinces if it wasn't stopped right there in blackfire pass. Marius, despite his antics, was a very capable fighter and the fact that he got BTFO by that Warboss goes to shiw how powerful it was. Karl Franz actually stalemated it for a while, but he's just a man while that orc was 6x his size and has the benefit of not getting tired.
8ed Franz isn't any stronger than 6ed Franz, the story is exactly the same.

what a waste of trips

mao did nothing wrong

>Question -
in WHFB? i just wouldn't. WHFB operates on exaggerated stereotypes and cliches. you don't see much Holy Roman Empire in fantasy, and vikings normally don't have a demonic twist, it worked fine so far. but asian cultures have been overdone a thousand times in exactly that exaggerated cliche style. do it Warhammer way, and you get Pandaria. make them entirely original, and it wouldn't be Warhammer.

so I wouldn't touch that part at all. every map needs blank spaces with just vague names and rumours of what may or may not be there.

he died too soon.

I agree that some things should be left as mysterious. It allows you to make up your own stuff, like my not!Sub-Zero Lin Kuei clan to entice my group's That Guy to stop being That Guy.

>so I wouldn't touch that part at all. every map needs blank spaces with just vague names and rumours of what may or may not be there.

So, your conclusion is...nothing. Well done. Your originality is astounding.

Alright, in broad strokes.

>Hobgobbos
I think this might already be a thing. Combine elements of Orcs and Goblins, Chaos Dwarfs and Ogres into a blender. Pulse. Serve cold. I'm seeing elite light cavalry backed by a shit load of cannon fodder gnoblars.

>Khuresh
Monstrous Cavalry specialists. A lot of poison weapons. Swamp themed monsters.

>Araby
I'd like to see them as a Human/Undead cross army. Bedouin nomads supported by undead allies. Humans form light skirmishers and mounted aux troops, backed by djinn sorcerers who command legions of standard undead.

>Nippon
Elite infantry focus army. Heavy elf influence, a lot of cross culture going on. Take High Elves, nobble the magic bullshittery and take everything down to human levels, add numbers. Maybe a focus on air options?

>Ind
Monsters, nagas and heroic demigods everywhere.

>Cathay
Cheap infantry, elite stone golem troops, fuck-off huge dog monsters, elite anti-chaos Great Bastion army lists.

You don't have to make them entirely original. It is possible to do Chinese inspired cultures well in fantasy - it just means depending more on history and research than stereotypes.

>Heavy elf influence, a lot of cross culture going on. Take High Elves, nobble the magic bullshittery and take everything down to human levels
So Empire?

how come no fantasy australia

>So, your conclusion is...nothing.
exactly. the only way not to lose is to not play

now that's a good question. while maori stuff is getting popular in gaming, it's still fresh enough that Warhammer could SET the cliches, not use them.

how about we develop one?

In Warhammer fantasy magical words can kill and we don't need to arm an entire continent of banters.

I can't imagine Araby would command undead troops seeing as how they're next door neighbours to the Tomb Kings. Summoning undead to defend your cities would probably scare the shit out of your citizens and encourage Tomb King attacks as they hate Nagash and his disciples. Anti-undead would make more sense, some kind of blessed warriors or men who carry sanctified weapons to lay their sleepless neighbours to rest.

There's already a man eating hellhole, it's called Lustria.

Britbongs are cave people in WHFB.

>Maori
>Australia

m8

*sigh*

we're talking about universe that has Arthurian England and 100 Year War France merged, Golden Horde era Rus and 16th century Poland merged, fucking katanas in fucking Cathai AND YOU EXPECT not!MAORI NOT TO BE IN not!AUSTRALIA?! you're delusional.

Is there even a not-Australia in Warhammer?

no, the area it should be in is taken up by fake southeast asia and fake antarctica. the real question is why there isnt one when they have fakeouts for all the other continents

Because Brits hate Australians.

aussies won rugby the year WHFB map was drawn?

>rugby
I thought cricket was more popular in britbongistan?

maybe the brits lost the ashes.

To be fair everyone hates Australians.

do Australians hate Australians?

>inb4 even more than other do

Damn Australians, they ruined Australia!

More elf-y. But yeah, just another flavour of Empire.

>exactly. the only way not to lose is to not play
Nah, you're still losing in the big picture.

>I can't imagine Araby would command undead troops seeing as how they're next door neighbours to the Tomb Kings

I thought the Tomb Kings and Araby were balls deep in each other? Like, full bossom buddies.

Skeggi is not!Australia.

Nah. We love ourselves.

More than anything else.

Them Australians sure are a contentious people.

>I thought the Tomb Kings and Araby were balls deep in each other?
Araby is terrified of Nehekara and they get invaded all the time. If anything some Araby cities swear fealty to the tomb kings to avoid getting everyone slaughtered. When ever the tomb kings decide to butt fuck the living, Araby is always first on their list. Araby did learn some shit like a few of their magical practices from being next to nehekara so long, but its not like their allied nations or anything.

>>bossom buddies

Not that I've read. Tomb Kings have no friends or traditional allies and make war among themselves as much as with others. They have elf level arrogance and exact dwarf level revenge. Remember that trinket your grandpa looted in the south two decades ago? King Khazuthep the Angry is here to kill your entire family to take it back.

Sweet, a new picture of Alarielle for my folder.

>If anything some Araby cities swear fealty to the tomb kings to avoid getting everyone slaughtered.

That might be what I'm thinking - that the TK see Araby as their subjects and smack a bitch when they get too uppity.

Hypothetically, just hypothetically, you are put in charge of an official ship between Karl Franz and one of the following
Naieth
Alarielle
Morathi

How do you go about plausibly writing a hook for that happening?

>Naieth
GW's canon as shown above, Wood Elves were protecting that perfect human specimen for breeding purposes.

>How do you go about plausibly writing a hook for that happening?

The action did not have his consent.

Morathi to not only have Middenland ripped out of the old world and dragged to norsca, but also have a Witch Emperor who's an eternal pretender to the throne of the empire

>Witch Emperor who's an eternal pretender to the throne of the empire
so... Vlad?

He isn't descendant of Sigmar and emperors unlike KFC.

>descendant of Sigmar
Sigmar didn't have any kids.

He had two bastard sons which were hidden from him.

He knew about them but opted not to take them away from their mother, saying that the Empire wasn't meant to be ruled by one dynasty. Kinda weird since Nagash showed him the Time of the Three Emperors, but it would probably happen anyway somewhere down the line.

What's that from?

Time of Legends, the Sigmar series. Sigmar secures the swordoath of the Asoborn queen Freya by spending a night with her as she's a sexually liberated woman. Unsurprisingly, they produce a child, two boys at that.

time of legends, but how to get karl with elf waifu?

He should have sire daughter and elect emperor as her husband, make their first daughter the new Empress and chose new Emperor from elector counts as usual.