/tgesg/ - Weekend Elder Scrolls Lore General

King of Worms Edition

>Tabletop/P&P RPGs
[Scrollhammer - Tabletop Wargame] 1d4chan.org/wiki/Scrollhammer_2nd_Edition
Discussion in #Scrollhammer (irc.thisisnotatrueending.com (port 6667))
[UESRPG 1e + other TES RPGs] mediafire.com/uesrpg
Discussion in #UESRPG (same server)

>Lore Resources
[The Imperial Library] imperial-library.info/
[/r/teslore] reddit.com/r/teslore/
[UESP/Lore] uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Main_Page
[Pocket Guide to the Lore] docs.google.com/document/d/1AtsWXZKVqB4Q825_SwINY6z4_9NaGknXgeOknOCDuCU/edit
[Elder Lore Podcast] elderlore.wordpress.com/
[How to Become a Lore Buff] forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1112211-how-to-become-a-lore-buff/

>General Rules
This is NOT /tesg/ minus waifus, so behave properly.
No waifus or husbandos except for Ysgramor, Yngol or Ahzidal.
Keep the squabbling to a minimum.

Previous Kalpa:

Other urls found in this thread:

en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Arkay_the_Enemy
uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ark'ay,_the_God_of_Birth_and_Death
uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Celestial
uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Constellations#Constellations
twitter.com/AnonBabble

en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Arkay_the_Enemy
>He was also a man who entered the ranks of the gods. The similarities between his (Arkay) mortal life and my own (Mannimarco) astonish even me. It is only proper that we should be enemies.
Was Arkay a man?

One of the stories says that he was a man who studied life and death, and as his own death drew near, Mara gave him a choice between resting peacefully or continuing his path to become a God.

And the Thalmor are ok with that?

The Thalmor want to see what happens when Talos dies. They're betting on it sending them back to their old existence of primordial godsoup, much like the End of Evangelion. They don't particularly care what else Men worship.

Thanks for making the OP, I end up making it 3/4 times and I'm kinda running out of good OP images.

>uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Ark'ay,_the_God_of_Birth_and_Death
Daggerfall established a lot of good lore about gods and deities.

magnus and nerevar approved chips/crisps

>Not the best snack in all of Highrock.

Lady Azura has her own hotel.

I like the skill icons for Oblivion. Very stylish.

Definitley. The magic ones are the best.

Got a better resolution :^)

What the fuck...

Thanks senpai, I just got mine off UESP.

From the Thalmor perspective, the story of Arkay is just a watered down myth of the story of Xarxes, one of the Aldmeri ancestor spirits.

Weird that UESP doesn't have the highest resolution version...

is xarces related to the mystarium xarxes

Is there a lore reason why the Warrior, Mage and Thief are special and recurring archetypes in the world?

yes

It's a common class division in RPGs, but later on they became enantiomorph deep lore stuff

Yes the connection goes like this iirc:
Hermaeus Mora gifts Xarxes with hidden knowledge of the ages.
Xarxes compiles this knowledge into the Oghma Infinium.
Mehrunes Dagon uses some of the information provided in the Oghma Infinium ro create the Mysterium Xarxes.

>Hermaeus Mora's artifacts (Oghma Infinium, Black Books) are just books written by other people
what a lazy bum

what makes them think that would happen?
wouldn't that have more to do with the Earthbones?

It's one of those things that just keeps happening. Like the Rebel/King/Tower and the Prisoner thing.

>It's one of those things that just keeps happening
THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

>the Prisoner thing
what prisoner thing?

Every pc starts out as a prisoner of some kind.

Oh, that!

Oh shit!
Guess we know where TES 6 is taking place.

The resort is called Azura, wtf

And it opened in 2015.
Truly, our lady has seen it fit to bless the Turks with a temple to her splendour.

Turkey also has a statue of a Zaku.

link?

He's the hoarder of knowledge, not creator.

Who would be the Daedric Prince of hoarding in general?

Is it worth having the DLCs for Morrowind when you first start playing? It's a bit nerve-wracking to try and sleep outside of Sedya Neen.

There's a mod for disabling the DB attacks until you're at a higher level

Probably still Hermaeus. Isn't he the god of obsession?

Why not wait for the overhaul to get completed?

what overhaul?

The assassins are not that hard to dispatch, even on low levels, but they do get annoying after some time. You can sell their armours for a nice amount of cash though

Fanmade Morrowind in Skyrims engine, just like they did with Oblivions

That could be useful, but if I'm not going to Mournhold until later anyway, why bother with Tribunal at all until I'm ready?

Part of the reason I've been avoiding them is that I want to be able to get an ebony dart from one. Otherwise the cash would be great.

Why would anyone want that transvestite?

Depends on how and why you hoard.
Relevant Princes would be Herma Mora, Sanguine and Sheogorath.
Possibly Namira, but she's a harder case to argue for.

>>>/tesg/

Sanguine?

No, I'm Phlegmatic.

He hoards alcohol and bitches.

Also Molag Bal could be relevant for hoarding slaves. I guess Deadric princes don't really need them, so it's purely for hoarding value.

Ehhh, it looks nice. Never got it to work for some reason. I should probably run a mod manager or something

> Is there a lore reason why the Warrior, Mage and Thief are special and recurring archetypes in the world?
Well, they are all associated with certain parts of the Entantiomorph. Mage with The Witness, Warrior with King and Thief is the Rebel. It was originally just a product of common class distinctions in RPG and fantasy, but it became something more later on.

So, from the perspective of Godhead, is someone achieving a chim like part of your dream gaining consciousness and starting acting on its own?

Sorry, didn't mean to reply.

Most mods require the expansions.

Nedic people blithering with powerful magic

uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Celestial
uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Constellations#Constellations

> So, from the perspective of Godhead, is someone achieving a chim like part of your dream gaining consciousness and starting acting on its own?
Kinda. But there is no perspective of Godhead, Anu is a dead being, he can no longer perceive anything. If he was self aware and lucid, than yes, it would be like that.

>what the fuck, how did I miss all tha-
>ESO
Oh, I see

The class illustrations were cool too.

GET IN THE GIANT ANIMONCULY SHINJI!

Are the Reachmen a completely separate race from the Bretons, or are they like the Ashlanders to the Dunmer?

I have to play it one day

So did the dwemer harness geothermal energy for their electricity or what?
Do centurions have little steam engines in them?
When you kill a centurion, are you just bashing them until their internals stop functioning?
Are they robots or are they more like golems?
Give me a crash course in dwemer technology.

RESPECT THE ROBOT.

Reachmen are the mutts among mutts, a complete mismatch of races. They have more elven blood than normal Bretons, and a bit of Nord/Orcish blood. It also depends on location. The Reachmen of Skyrim's Reach are a lot more Nordic than those of the Western Reach.

By what i know they used steam power quite a lot.
The dwemer animonculi are basically robots that work on magic or something, seems like most of them got soul gems inside them, though whether it is where their intelligence resides or they take power from is a bit questionable.
Also their tech was all over the place, using swords and arrows while having machines with which they could read elder scrolls without going blind or crazy, store that data inside some sorta cubes called lexicons which just transfer info straight into your brain when you open them.
And then at some point they just disappeared, whether they ascended to energy beings or got deleted from universe is a mystery.

I don't think it's properly explained anywhere.
The main power source for dwemer automatons seems to be a soul gem. However, since dwemer mechanics emit a lot of steam, steam engines seem to also be involved. Perhaps the soul gem just heats up the water in the engine, replacing the coal burning process?
Also, I'm not even sure if any dwemer technology apart from automatons uses soul gems. If not, perhaps the gems are rather a computers of sorts, serving as the intelligence module for robots.

The Dunmer at least accept the Ashlanders as being Dunmer. The Bretons of High Rock refuse to consider the Reachmen Bretons.

I can't honestly say if they're actually Bretons or not, though. It's frustrating how all these varieties of humans that exist in the lore get watered down to three groups and a vaguely half-elf group in the games.

So I've been to Telasero to escort (rescue) some retarded Altmer that wanted to explore it and to get the last index, anyway, it had become a 6th House Base, and they apparently dug up a tunnel from a wall to a nearby lava pool (pic related, the entrance you see there is actually on a higher level).

Could this mean that they need to have access to lava (Lorkhan's blood, I guess) for something?

Does the last dragonborn kill Alduin or is it more like an argument that makes Akduin resume his worldeating?

Ebony is the blood of Lorkhan.
You don't absorb a soul so he isn't dead. Paarthurnax even said that he is merely banished, he will come back at some point to finish what he started.

Ok, tell me more about ebony, it's blood of someone?

user...

Kiss me you damn fool!

>Ebony is the blood of Lorkhan
I know, that's why I said it.

Adding on to this, the Reachmen are far more removed genetically and culturally than Ashlanders are. Although I don't think Reachmen are as far removed as either side thinks.

Have you seen that Shrine to Azura?

Tribunal has content that impacts the vanilla game, such as the journal. It's 100% required, as well as for many mods.

Oh user, I thought you'd never ask...

interior of said hotel

Most people in the Reach just live normal lives - even in Skyrim with all the oppression going on by the Nords over recent strife, there's still a Reachman who owns a mine, and plenty live in the cities.

Given how similar the Nords and Bretons are in looks, I wouldn't be surprised if sometimes they were just seen as slightly peculiar Nords.

Hey /tesg/ I have been asked by my party (5 other people) to run a game using UESRPG for them. Thing is, I'm not 100% sure what I should run. I want a cool campaign but I'm not sure where to start the party and what the main story for it should be. Party will be a mixed race group with one Dunmer, one Argonian and one Khajiit (Ohmes) and the rest are not sure what they want to play yet. Suggestions?

>being a catlet
That sounds cute as fuck.
How knowledgeable about TES are your players? Have they expressed any particular interests?

I'd say the Imperial Simulacrum is a good time period to play in. It's close enough to "modern" TES to be recognisable, but it's also a time of strife and uncertainty, which is a good setting for adventures.
Especially the later part of the Simulacrum is plagued with regional wars and a very weak Empire, while the earlier years are more stable, but in fast decline.

All of them have played Oblivion and Skyrim, two have played Morrowind but I'm the only one to have played Daggerfall. I won't say they are experts but they do understand some of the lore and such.

This is getting spooky.

>Turks are worshipping Daedra
Somehow this news doesn't surprise me.

Guess I know where I'm going for the next holiday.
Do yo think they have events for Sanguine worshippers?

You can do the second era, before Talos comes around, and after the Banner War because it's bad. Or you could do the Banner War and make it not bad.

get jiub on the phone

Huh... Might look at the Banner War then. Surely I could make it not shitty, right? Maybe not good, but at least not shitty...

So probably best to set it in the late Third Era or early Fourth Era then. Going back much further than that is just going to be strange for them.

What's the nature of the group? Are they mercenaries, friends, or just random people drawn together by chance?

Also, have some ideas about plots:
>The year is 3E 398, and the Five Years War is still raging between Valenwood and Elsweyr. Following the sack of Elden Root, a Khajiiti tribal chief and his forces loot the royal palace, before defecting from the army, and disappearing into the wilds. Only later does it become clear that he has stolen "Selene's Jewel", a magical phylactery belonging to an ancient Bosmeri lich and master of spiders. Now that the chief has stolen the jewel, he intends to use it to reawaken the lich, and bind her to his will. With his loyal warriors, his powerful slave, and no Empire to stop him, there's no way to tell what damage he could do in this wartorn region. The players may have many interests, be veterans, mercenaries or wanderers, but all want to stop this supernatural threat.

>In the aftermath of the War of Bend'r-mahk, Dragonstar has been split entirely in two, as the city sits on the edge of civil war, just like the whole of Hammerfell. The players have been hired by one (or both) side(s) of the city to perform covert actions against the other, and win power in the region.

>The Twilit Fastnesses are under siege by the infernal forces of Dagon. You are the cleanup crew. TES + DOOM.

>yfw that hotel is Convention

Now we know where the Nerevarine is. He's chilling at a resort in Anatolia.

So there's scrollhammer, but is there an elder scrolls version of D&D?

UESRPG.

If you mean simply "a tabletop RPG" there are a few, but if you mean if there are homebrew rules for D&D to play an Elder Scrolls game, there are hundreds of iterations if you just do a google search. However, the best version, imo, of an ES tabletop game is the UESRPG.

>We are graves but not coffins. Know the difference. You have only dug more and supplied no ghosts to reside within.

What does this mean? It's from the sixteenth sermon.

>read up on scrollhammer rules
>set up scrollhammer server on maptools
>track down art, find stats, and create a warband
>can't host because of apparent network errors
Fugg.
Scrollhammer soon(ish), as soon as I manage to figure out what's wrong.

Also finding decent Bosmer art is surprisingly hard.

By ravaging the Moons, Nerevar has just created more crators and dug existing ones deeper. The only way to destroy a pit in the earth is to fill it with something. Nerevar failed to do that

Isn't Nerevar the one saying that to the craters, though?

Maybe*

Shit, nevermind. I totally misremembered it. Disregard completely.

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