Invert the Stereotype

Concept: fantasy species where the ladies are nine-foot-tall horrors of teeth and claws and the men look like lithe twentysomething pretty-boys wearing body paint.

(Well, except for the Wise Elders. You can tell when a male is a Wise Elder because he looks mid thirties instead of early twenties and trades in the twinky underwear model aesthetic for a stubbly-yet-well-groomed Hot Dad vibe.)

you mean like an angler fish or your mom?

I'd fuck that lizard guy.

It's a twist on the usual notion of monstrous humanoid male = huge bestial creature while monstrous humanoid female = vaguely-elven chick with colorful skin and maybe cute wings/tail/horns.

Magical realm

Sounds more like mmo's. Specifically wow.

Kindly reduce yourself to −10 hp.

I think i'm going to steal this.

Why the asinine exaggeration OP?

Hyper masculine women and hyper feminine men. That's what your asking for essentially, rule 63 applied to generic fantasy.

Sounds like an Amazonian setting with male subs.

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>Invert the Stereotype

Except there are many natural species in which females are larger and easily overpower males. Females of many spider species end copulation by devouring the male.

It's only really a stereotype with humans.

I've never seen it done before. Usually, it's like I said earlier,
>monstrous humanoid male = huge bestial creature while monstrous humanoid female = vaguely-elven chick with colorful skin and maybe cute wings/tail/horns.
But the other way around? Never. People are too afraid of "ugly chicks" to include actual monstrous females in their monster races.

actually among land mammals larger males are the vast majority. however it is true that it is easier to make females of most species behave in a violent fashion than males because of their maternal instinct, so it is likely that more people are killed by female wild animals than males.

I'd fuck that lizard guy in the ass while letting his beautiful sister fuck me in the ass with her 8 inch clitoris.

Gears of War did this. No joke. The gigantic Berzerkers are the only females. They literally have to tie them down for mating to occur.

It's actually subtly pointed at in the games, since any Zerker is refered to as a she when one appears.

what about hags?

I'd be too worried she'd accidentally devour my head with that gaping razor-filled maw of hers.

Bad news because then their males look like standard males of common races, and you end up with tons of dead common race men who fucked a nine-foot-tall horror of teeth and claws.

Normally, when the females are the women-looking types, common race guys can bone them and be safe. Common race guys will bone the monstrous ones as well though, so bad things happen.

I think he's saying though it's not just size, like the females are huge and the guys tiny. He's saying the females are also horrific and monster-looking.

So the better analogy in this case is like a normal human guy and his gf is bigger and stronger than him, like with some animals. But she also is a spider of that size.

Amazons are worth looking at for ideas. Or look at Glorantha, the troll females are the more powerful of the two sexes in that setting.

It shouldn't be too hard to find examples of fringe characters/races in fantasy to create a setting where that's the norm.

Think of Hulk and She-Hulk. The male is a massive inhuman brute, while the female is basically a regular human with different skin color.

That's how things usually are depicted for monstrous races.

But you basically NEVER see it the other way around, with nearly-human males and monstrous females.

I understand that that's what I'm agreeing with you. The other guy was just like "Plenty of animals the female is bigger and stronger."

But in this case the female may be bigger and stronger, not neccessarily, but either way she'd be horrendous to look at and disturbing biology, while the male is just Fabio with a different skin color.

>exaggeration
>asinine

No such thing you boring fuck

> you end up with tons of dead common race men who fucked a nine-foot-tall horror of teeth and claws

You have 0 imagination.

Congratulations.

Troll harder

You first.

Sounds like the Zuul from sots.

Reminded me of this.

hehehe

alien culture shock is always fun

I know exactly what it can be.

You know those scorpion centaurs you see occasionally in fantasy? they were also in mesopotamian mythology?

there you go. the males can be studly bronze men with big hard phallic stingers from the waist up, while the females can be basically giant scorpion monsters with many eyes and terrifying fangs with which to protect their massive egg broods (and to eat careless mates).

This image fills me with so much joy.

sauce?

google.

Literally 1 second.

Yeah whatever. What if both the male and female of fantasy species were qtp2ts instead?

That'd be Elves.

Right, now extend that to all monster and beast races.

how boring.

>You can tell when a male is a Wise Elder because he looks mid thirties instead of early twenties and trades in the twinky underwear model aesthetic for a stubbly-yet-well-groomed Hot Dad vibe.)
>Not having the hot dad look be the midway between young adult and wise elder
>not having the wise elder do a complete 180 and come out looking like a bear mode mountain man-esque older dad with salt n' pepper hair

I'm completely flaccid OP, I hope you're proud.

I feel like this would lead to a lot of other races meeting the men and assuming the entire race worked like elves.

Google won't tell us whether or not it's worth the 1 second (as though that were all it actually takes under all circumstances). This isn't /a/, you can act like you're not a dick when someone wants to know about something someone has posted, or at least you should be able to, or you should be able to get out.

That "bear mode" idea is actually pretty clever.

Maybe they're bear people.

Cassiopeia Quinn.

...

>Not having the races just look like whatever you want them to look like and what makes you happy for worldbuilding

Go crazier, have them start life as giant hormonal cyclones of claws and death, then chill out to MILF/DILFs later in life. Or do the opposite. Who gives a fuck.

One of my favorite old homebrew races were essentially perfect predator regenerating mantis things that lived in a helljungle of poison and acid. They were so vibrantly alive that upon death they had a really high chance to spontaneously reanimate as intelligent undead, where they'd wander out of the helljungle and into the actual cities of the race, holding a cordon around said helljungle. They were the coldly logical smart guys of the setting, since they didn't have any instincts or urges to get in the way.

That's really fucking cool.

Steal for your own use, user, I wouldn't have posted it if I didn't want it stolen and used.
They also went from chameleon camoflauge to bone pale white, communicated via complicated clicks or writing due to being mute, and had a thriving "transhumanism" augmentation deal going on due to a lack of internal systems to fuck up.
Nothing like the lorekeeping engineer the party's looking for being a seven foot undead murdermantis with self-made chainsaw arms.

So basically, go fucking wild, but then develop your ideas. You want a race of creepy dudes with barn owl faces and horns? Drop them in, then figure out what they find creepy, and how they monetize being unsettling. It's unlikely they're ENTIRELY about being creepy, what the fuck else do they do? Literally Street Sharks? Parasitic electrical patterns that overwrite their host's mental processes? Flawed von neumann drones that fucked off from loading all the resources on the planet into their mining ships because someone told them about truth, justice, and the american way?
Go wild.

Pretty dope

I'd ask that monstergirl for permission to court her brother.

>Hyper masculine women and hyper feminine men

Wow, it's like you didn't even read the OP!

don't you eat this pieeeeeee

Isn't that basically the Sword of the Stars races, the Tarkas?

Opened this thread looking for fetish porn.
Left with basically nothing.

Not sure if proud or disappointed.

Here's one:
Dhampirs are more monstrous than any Vampire. When a Vampire fell in love with a human paladin of Hades and the paladin abandoned his oaths to become her husband, Hades cursed vampires so that all unions between humans and vampires will produce a Dhampir, a horrible monster that tears apart its mother upon birth, tries to kill the father and hunts undead with a savage hatred and fury but otherwise behaves like a typical omnivorous beast.

>what your asking
Opinion disregarded.

Oddly, this doesn't invert anything. ESPECIALLY when it comes to avian species. There are a ton of male birds that are prettier and more fabulous than their female counterparts.

>Steal for your own use, user
>implying I need your permission

I really like the idea but I have no use for it in any of my stories or anything I want to make.

It's fucking cool as hell though and has a lot of fun stuff to be used.

Fuck you, you're getting permission to use it anyway, I got piles of the shit everywhere and it's getting in the way of my despair collection.

Back to the thread topic, though, how about a sorta-khajit dealio where the phenotypes for "Fuzzy Adorable Thing With A Verbal Tic", "Sexy Fuzzy Nearhuman With Animal Ears" and "Literally A Deathclaw" are all part of the same race and none of them breed true? (e.g., a pair of fuzzy parents producing a not deathclaw, or deathclaws having a brood of the tiny ones).
What interesting cultural notes could you do with a setup like that? Religious fanatics? Phenotype wars? Chill motherfuckers teamworking it out? Squads of magic artillery little guys riding five to a deathclaw and chirping death across the battlefield?

A party of well-reserved and wise magic users attempt to quell the shenanigans of a completely 'that guy' ranger.

>Fuck you, you're getting permission to use it anyway

Well thank you, faggot

You're welcome, you flagrant assmaster.

It's refreshing to see such politeness on the internet you shitbucket

I'm totally playing a bard that tries to copulate with everything we come across in this setting.

>There is only one way to deal with such a monster

...what about a reversing 'you fools! I was sacrificing whole villages at a time to prevent a worse evil!' ? Like, a dude does saintly deeds in the name of forestalling something even better?

I'm having trouble coming up with some idea off the top of my head.

>would play

Because off the bat that sounds boring, dull, and undramatic.

Doin a comedy thing then sure.

Lich trying to stop the coming of the anti-undead god by undoing all the "end times" signs that would signal her arrival.

That character was a homo, right?

Sure?

Does it matter?

I'd hit it.

Nah just wondered. cus i stopped reading naruto a while after he appeared but I reckon ed that his mode of dress and tendency to talk about Naruto's dick meant he was gay

spolered for animu talk

Can't you dickwaffles just kiss already?

This is his wife.

This is his son.

>implying we haven't bein makin out for 4 posts already

Prolly has a dick

>But hey, this controller's a lot easier to use with more fingers!
>still has four fingers on each hand

Doesn't prove shit.

You mean his wife's son.

Evolutionarily, why would that happen? The "have to tie them down to mate" thing I mean.

Seems sort of self-defeating

>you need five fingers to use a controller

wut

>You heroes defeated the Brood Mother!? I thought I was done for!

Most likely Mantis style 'They eat the mate once they're done'
So its not the Snu-Snu you're trying to survive, its the cuddling afterwards.

>monstrous humanoid male = huge bestial creature while monstrous humanoid female = vaguely-elven chick with colorful skin and maybe cute wings/tail/horns.
I've never seen that before.
If you're talking about monstergirl settings, either there is no male form and the girls are -tan like personifications that replace the normal monsters in a setting or the monsterboys are just as human and pretty as the monstergirls.

I'm serious this never happens, it's only women of already humanoid races looking more attractive than their male counterparts and only in MMOs.

The Pirate Captain in our Pathfinder campaign has this picture as her Goblin cohort. They attempt to out-whore each other and the Goblin constantly wins.

It's not as magicalrealmy as you'd think, shit's just funny.

>"Y'need to stop whorin' on my ship! Into the brig!"
>They lock him up
>Come back later and he's counting silvers and coppers he made
"They still fit through the bars, captain!"
>She locks him up again, this time in a crate with tiny slits for air holes.
>They come back later
>He's counting new coin
"Your men aren't very well endowed, cap."

What happened Veeky Forums? I expected people to reply with -4 strength and then proceed to image dump muscle girls

Go away man

2009 called, it wants you to let go and forget about it.

2009 has terrible self esteem issues

I'd rather skip the monstrous lady and instead have a race of nothing but DILFs, ala the Asari. Passive mind control to always look studly.

It's mostly an MMO thing. Probably the worst offenders are trolls in WoW. Mmale trolls are humanoid but obviously inhuman looking, with a hunched over, lanky build with long gangly legs and arms, long noses, and prominent tusks. Female trolls are pretty much blue-skinned humans with small tusks. Female trolls actually looked more like their male counterparts in the beta, but got changed due to being "too ugly".

You see the same thing occasionally outside MMOs, but usually not to that extend. Female humanoid monsters tend to be "prettier" than their male counterparts, and often have female human sexual traits, even when they don't make sense (such as having breasts, or at least the appearance of breasts, on a lizardwoman).

>Concept: fantasy species where the ladies are nine-foot-tall horrors of teeth and claws and the men look like lithe twentysomething pretty-boys wearing body paint.

Isn't 'Big men, tiny women' already the inversion of the stereotype biologically? Most insect species have females being bigger and scarier than males. Predator does too, IIRC.

It's not just MMOs, it's visual media in general. video games, and RPGs moreso because they need to make all the armor models for characters. Because sexy chicks rake in cheap attention, most devs just say fuck it, scale up the human model and slap some horns on it.

To many people including monstrous females in your game would be shooting yourself in the foot, so that you become better at shooting yourself in the foot.

It's sad, but most people don't give a fuck about artistic vision, immersion or dignity.

As mentioned above, it depends on the animals. For example, with mammals males are usually bigger but with reptiles and insecst, females are usually bigger.

But yeah, Yautja (ie. the aliens from the Predator movies) females are supposed larger than males, and just as ugly. We've never seen one in the movies, because only the males go hunting for trophies. It's supposed to be a courtship ritual of sorts. In order to get a mate, the male Yatja has to prove that he's badass enough to hunt down a dangerous creature alone and with (from their point of view) minimal tech.

I recall there were surveys, or perhaps just player numbers themselves, that showed across the board preference for more standard beautiful female characters. Player sex, country, game, none of that made much of a difference. I think the country most of all did, but nothing beyond changes in ratios, not actual overall preference.

MMO's especially need to cater to audiences day in and day out, both in the old and new revenue models. It's incredibly unsurprising they stick to the cliche of "monstrous males, painted women" because of that. The unwashed masses just have incredibly plebish tastes, and attempts to give them something outside the norm have routinely never done well.

You're vastly overstating this.
Even the lizrds with boobs aren't 'sexy chicks', they're given mammalian sexual characteristics so the player can easily tell them apart from the men without having to remember whatever dimorphic trait the develop came up with.
It doesn't really hamper artistic vision or immersion because it's fantasy, it's fueled by camp.

Hags don't have a "male" they rape human men or they implant their baby in a human female.

>You men aren't very well endowed, cap

Kek.

>8 inch clitoris

Try 3 foot long, prehensile, ridged,studded, a knot, and four testicles each as large as a basketball.