CYOA General

Gambler, Treehouse, Small Fortune, Magitek Primer, Freelance.

If I'm so lucky, this small fortune isn't staying so small, and then I could just end up owning everything. EVERYTHING.

Voting for adventure!

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I seem to recall some sort of dire warning about how fucked we'd be if we picked Lewd again.
So I'm going for Comfort.

>Sci fi term. If I recall correctly it's a civilization that can harvest and put to use most if not all of the energy outputted in a galaxy.

I know what it is, hes just pulling it out of nowhere. The CYOA is not about type 1 civilizations.

>In theory, sufficiently advanced technology could achieve the effects

Some effects, not all.

>Shattering continents is literally less than nothing on a universal scale

Typo, I meant to say "a single one could shatter continents" with prep master wizards could potentially do much worse.

>magic is considerably easier to use and is tied to personal power

Not easier but it is tied to personal power

> technology requires a great deal of buildup and resources and is more akin to military might.

Pretty much

>it's that you seem to lack scope.

I believe I use the phrase "infinite infinity" several times. This CYOA is about scope.

>Omnipotence isn't really omnipotence if there are things you can't do.

A Demiurge is omnipotent in their universe. They can do anything and everything with no limitation.

>Like, what's the upper limit to what you can do?

Destroying galaxies is effortless childs play. They can alter the properties of the universe and rewrite the continuity of the universe, erasing and creating past and future events.

>It being able to lift 125 tonnes is pitiful.
Just threw out a figure. How much would you have it lift? I looked up regular Kaiju weight limits and they all seemed to fall around the 100 ton limit.

>That said, nothing ruins suspension of disbelief like inaccuracies and inconsistencies.

I dont really see anything thats inaccurate or inconsistent.

>What?
Yes, a master level mage could teleport on your ship and blow up half of the dam thing before you knew he was on there.

>Now tell me that any number of millions is significant.

Millions of wizards are signifigant. Especially an entire army of them working together.

I vote comfort as well.

The Road Less Traveled, Influence, Talent, Home, Credentials, Compendium.

Time for Adventure!

>Transformation
>Super Intelligence

Also, I vote for an Adventure Mystery Box.

Very quick! It's time for comfort.
Box will be here... soon.

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Of course, I came prepared this time.
And that's all for now. Don't forget your raven feather if you're taking nothing; the shop will be here... Next time!

>The CYOA is not about type 1 civilizations.
Doesn't matter what it's about. They should be possible in any universe at least partially based on ours.

!!!
>Be the girl (male)
>Hypnotism
And I'll use this page's feather for the Raven Black Sharpie to remove the word (male)
Thanks a whole bunch, Raven of Happiness.
Your Succubi are cute, for sure, but I don't want to cheat on anyone, not even in my dreams.
I really want to protect her smile, but I have to be greedy with this.
No, it said we would "attract attention". Who says that's bad?

>Wonderland
Is this to become my playground, or am I to become its plaything?

>Reincarnation
The latter. Of course.
>Cuteness
If I find myself joining them, I'll know for sure - this place is seeking to assimilate me.

>Fellowship
I can already feel them pulling me closer.
>Transport
And the deeper I go, the stronger it gets.
>Home
But the likes of me don't belong here.

Please, choose someone else. Someone who deserves it. Send me back to rot. You... you know? You forgive me?

No. No, I won't let you trick me. I'm not one of you. I could never be. This place - it's all too good.

Please. Stop hugging me. Stop telling me it'll be okay. It shouldn't be okay. I don't deserve it being okay.

You can't save me from myself. Why are you trying?

You really mean it? I remind you of your younger self? That can't be right. Right?

A beautiful day like this, people - no, things like me should be burning in. In. ...where? What was I going to say?

Cute? Me? I'm flattered, I. You. You mean it? Aah, but my looks are so boring. Black hair, brown eyes - what? What do you mean, my eyes are green?

What do you mean, when did I start dyeing it? My hair's always been... blonde? But I remember it being black.

When did I get these freckles? They're adorable!

You guys are the best, you know that?

>Yes, a master level mage could teleport on your ship and blow up half of the dam thing before you knew he was on there
Okay? I meant I didn't understand what you said.

>Cleans mental ailments
Welp, this is the one I'm taking.

I feel the setting does a pretty good job of showing the full power of tech and magic (with magic being the ultimate winner). Type one civilization? Psshh we can buy a ringworld for 100 credits. The AI could possibly rule a type III civilization for all we know. And guess what it is scared to death of magic.

>Millions of wizards are signifigant. Especially an entire army of them working together.
Dropped this in the reply.

So you're telling me that you're going to ignore the numbers quoted, 352 septillion octillion people, and claim that a million of anything matters to that number. At this point you're just being willful and stubborn for its own sake.

That's called poor writing.

guide

Who is this cute succubus?

Have there been any cool new CYOAs in the past 20 or so threads? Missed about that many threads and want to know if I should go back to look for anything.

>Let me repost this here since I entered so late in the last thread.

I'm working on it, don't worry.

Pic related is a pure Si Fa. Neither they nor the Lathydor mixes have fur or anything, but buying them a razor would be a good idea.

Ooh, I like this build. Enjoy, user!

You can only do one favor in V.1 actually, but I like that story way too much to stop you. Besides, I'll probably up the number you can take in the next build to balance all the new choices.

Thanks for all the feedback, folks!

Happiness raven is pretty cool. If a bit simplistic

>Some effects, not all.
Fair.

>Not easier but it is tied to personal power
I assume it's a w40k type dealio except different. More specifically, the "Aether" or w/e mirrors the universe, ebbs and flows as you said, cyclical but unpredictable, tied to reality but distinct from it, yadda yadda. While learning its intricacies is a long and arduous process, tapping into it is considerably easier than positioning a fleet of planet busters where you need them.
Am I close?

>A Demiurge is omnipotent in their universe. They can do anything and everything with no limitation.
If that were true, there would be no universal war. If you are omnipotent in your universe, you can effortlessly wipe out any invading army, erase any invading entity out of existence, permanently imprison visiting Demiurges, etc.
If you cannot, it's not omnipotence.
Look it up.

>Destroying galaxies is effortless childs play. They can alter the properties of the universe and rewrite the continuity of the universe, erasing and creating past and future events.

That makes a great deal more sense.
Neat.

>Just threw out a figure. How much would you have it lift? I looked up regular Kaiju weight limits and they all seemed to fall around the 100 ton limit.
Honestly, I have no idea. A humanoid chassis for a weapons platform is a horrible idea to begin with, I haven't a clue why so many works of fiction insist on it.
That said, peak human lifting strength is about 3*bodyweight, so, maybe 75000 tonnes?
If you want it to be somewhat effective.
Square cube law makes this physically impossible but, hey, maybe your universe has tech that can act like a 3d muscle or someshit, I dunno.

>tfw I already chose the Adventure, but already know what I'd use the seven Bath Bombs on

>Myself (soaking long enough to cure everything)
>My apartment building (wonder if this removes the need for vacuuming or if I'd need to bathe the floor separately)
>My computer (so it'll always be running well)
>My mattress (it's older than me, so putting it back in order would be great)
>My acoustic guitar (so it'll always be tuned, I hope)
>My printer (no more paper jams)

And the last on either goes to the floor, to experiment on my wallet and see if that does anything money-wise, or to experiment on my phone.

Adventure!

I made in the very last thread.

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She doesn't have a name, but she's the cute-cubus from the Succubus episode (8 I think) of Kono Suba
>There are some things in this world you absolutely must protect

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You know I'm right.

Third point I think the term universal war is a misnomer. The original war was a multiversal war between demiurges, while the current setting is focusing on a universal war between incarnates (still multiversal in nature due to beings from outside the universe having a part).

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What a happy goblin.

>I haven't a clue why so many works of fiction insist on it.
Yes you do. It looks cool. A lot cooler than the alternatives.

I can't decide between Theosophist and Seer. It almost seems as if they make each other redundant.

>Setting:
Space Opera
>Themes:
Porn
Adventure
>Bonus:
Transport
Compendium
McGuffin

Basically TiTS.

>I dont really see anything thats inaccurate or inconsistent.
>A Demiurge is omnipotent in their universe. They can do anything and everything with no limitation.
>I believe I use the phrase "infinite infinity" several times. This CYOA is about scope.

Things have a tendency not to scale up terribly well when dealing with a universal scope. A power that seems cool in a one on one fight becomes utterly useless when faced with something broader in its application.
People that are supposed to have 1/100 the power of a Demiurge, a nigh-omnipotent being, somehow still bother recruiting and combating lowly humans.
Said Incarnates are somehow held at bay by a dude in a metal suit,
Angels are alleged to be comparable to nigh-omnipotent beings and yet tend to be treated off-handedly. Little is made of the fact that one patron enables you to call in dozens of these nigh-omnipotent godlings .
etc.

I will concede it's exceedingly difficult to have things be cool and make sense at the same time. Often one has to be sacrificed in favor of the other.
I would argue for a tiny bit fewer sacrifices in favor of coolness.
Also, I realize you've been asked before, but could you please give us a rough outline of what the Old Law is all about?

I guess I didn't play up the Theosophist's weird tricksterness as well as I could have. The Seer is more of sitting next to God's throne and hearing His words, while the Theosophist is more trolling the shit out of Satan.

That goblin is still rather... enticing.

What does that make our new happiness raven?

In that case, I'll pick Seer. The only interaction I'd want with demons is kicking their shit in.

>Spoilers
awww shit son

A one shot character of no importance in Konosuba, which is fucking great.

I really like the raven. He's pretty neat.

The Raven transcends these pity attempts at causing drama.

Literally who?

Once again, I choose Theosophist for maximum backtrolling.
Just seems like the most fun. I still get to be a dick. And for a good cause, too.

Seems like Seers dole out the the truth of God, while Theosophists work from the other end unraveling the lies of the Adversary.

Doubt that you'll get a ton of action as a Seer, but it's certainly a cushy position.

Agreed. The Raven is better than us mortals.

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Not that guy, but I'm starting to think he's not wrong. Especially his comment about scope and scale. You can claim your CYOA is about scope, but I'm not sure you actually took it into account as you wrote this, and I definitely think you didn't consider what you wanted the upper bounds of incarnate power to be in various areas. Moreover I think you underestimate what tech can actually do, what tech will do in the future, and just how little we understand about how the universe actually works - and what we've done with what little we understand.

I'm reminded of a Game of Thrones anecdote, from I think something from the production of the first season. George RR Martin was being shown the set for The Wall and marveled at how huge it was, and was flabbergasted when he was told the set was less than half the height of the book series' Wall. I get the same impression from some of the things you say.

Gotta love outtrolling the biggest trolls in existence.

I think a demiurge is greater than the sum of its parts, basically.

Well, I went Guide last time, and that was fun, but this time I want to try going the Herald route. I want to go to the people and spread the good news of God to them, telling them about all the wonderful things waiting for them, teaching them valuable lessons, and kicking the shit out of any demons that try to harm them. You want to hurt these innocent people? Tell that poor child she doesn't matter? Whisper sweet lies into that man's ears, like poisoned honey? Over my dead body.

What do you guys think is the best pocket dimension CYOA out there?

For the record, I, the person that made the comment about scope and scale, would like to distance myself from the user that was throwing a tantrum about there being drawbacks to magic in the last thread.
He is not me, his opinion in no way reflects my own.
I'm just trying to offer my two cents in a constructive manner.

You can distance yourself, but arguments of scope were part of my argument as well. In that, we're aligned.

That one by Ferrean.

Fair.

This.

That's the nature of fiction and even the best writers fall victim to it. Another good example is the Harry Potter series. J.K Rowling obviously did not consider all the implications of what she wrote for her world. The most flagrant being the time turner of course but there where way more such as liquid luck. The UW setting feels more galactic in scale DESU with the characters at different WH40K power levels. Saying he underestimates tech is a hard thing to call since we are nowhere near the level described in the setting and any number of explanations could prevent the really high end uses that he may not be considering.

Not that user but...your sense of scale is very very very far off. Several million mages is a drop of piss on a universal scale. Doing a quick search gives us some numbers for comparison so you can see just how tiny that is.

>According to the best estimates of astronomers there are at least one hundred billion galaxies in the observable universe. They've counted the galaxies in a particular region, and multiplied this up to estimate the number for the whole universe.

>In November 2013, astronomers reported, based on Kepler space mission data, that there could be as many as 40 billion Earth-sized planets orbiting in the habitable zones of Sun-like stars and red dwarfs in the Milky Way, 11 billion of which may be orbiting Sun-like stars.

>Astronomers using NASA data have calculated for the first time that in our galaxy alone, there are at least 8.8 billion stars with Earth-size planets in the habitable temperature zone.

I think you mean this one, right?

8+ BILLION planets with earth like conditions for life in just the milky way. Now multiply that by the 100 billion other galaxies. That comes out to a lot of potential life, even if only 1% of those planets had sapient life. A few million mages is a drop of piss in an ocean. These are our best current guesses of course.

I'd suggest you should do some research to get a proper sense of scale if you're going to make a cyoa on a universal scale. A universe is massive.

Why can't you continue arguing in the still-alive thread?

I actually did the calculations up above here

Yes

The font, and the white-on-bright-gray hurts my eyes too much to do this.

Huh. Man, all this stuff is getting confusing. My apologies for any misattribution. But yeah, some of the discussion confuses me. We're talking about universal scope and being able to bully galaxies and yet...the companions are supposed to be as powerful as a starting incarnate and they're not impressive. Like at all. (Except for the one with the CHIM reference, that made me laugh.) A lot of them are street-level in terms of comic book powers. In that sort of scope, individuals don't even matter until they're as awesome as Lord Castellan Creed.

>Affinities: Glacial, Necrotic
>Size: Large
>Races: Undead, Celestial

>BOSS PERKS
>Empowerment (Necrotic)
>Hybrid (Celestial)
>Corruption
>Magical Prowess
>Charisma Prowess
>Vitality Prowess
>Enchanted Armour (Glacial)
>Enchanted Weapon (Necrotic)
>Sizes: Average, Large
>Races: Undead/Celestial, Construct

>100 Guards (Large Construct) (13)
>100 Soldiers (Average Undead/Celestial) (11)
>50 Recruiters (Average Undead/Celestial) (10)
>10 Warriors (Large Construct) (9)
>10 Sorcerers (Large Undead/Celestial) (8)
>1 Witch (Large Undead/Celestial) (7)
>1 Chosen (Large Construct) (6)

>Devotion (5)
>Native (4)
>Appearance (3)
>Sustenance (2)
>Upgrade (1)
>Specialty (Magic) (0)
>Expansion
>Restoration
>Large

>Hero (adversary) (+5 minions)
>Usurper (+5 minions)

>100 MORE Large Construct Guards (8)
>100 Average Undead/Celestial Guards (6)
>20 Average Undead/Celestial Harem (4)
>40 Average Undead/Celstial Summoners (0)

Lore in next post.

>Organization:
Grand Celestial Fleet
>Background:
Neohologram
>Skills:
-30 Leadership 3
-35 Engineering 3
-20 Programming 3
-30 Science 3
>Refinements:
-50 Projection Stability 3
-20 Localised Tangibility
-25 Dynamic Inertials
-30 Improved Volumetrics
-50 Residual Photon Binding
-25 Core Durability 2
-100 Nanoform Core
-30 Improved Batteries
-30 Proofed Circuitry
-40 EM Harvester
>Items:
-5 Terminal
-15 Mechanic's Tools
-15 Hovercase
-25 Handscanner
>Spacecraft:
-350 Yacht

>Propulsion:
-40 Cyclic Chamber
-30 FTL Capability
>Utilities:
-25 Enhanced Arrays
-50 Sensor Platforms
-35 AI
-30 Luxury Fittings
-30 Entertainment Room
-45 VR Bay
-30 Galley
-30 Bar
-0 Saferoom
-120 Cargo Bay x25 (1 free)
-30 Fuel Harvester
-35 Infirmiry
-65 Factory Module
>Drones:
-20 Drone Bay
-10 Self-Repair
-10 Mining Arm
-15 Superior AI
>Companions:
Nikka
Aruyn
Lauha
Uriephrr
Aleksandra
Neparth

Basically a supply/support/intelligence/engineering/SCIENCE role in the GCF.
We work behind the scenes to keep things going in the right direction.
About as far from front-line fighters as you can get.

>So, mortal. You have arrived at the mistress' stronghold at last. As it was her grave, so too shall it be yours. Your king will learn his folly when his own men march against him, risen from the dead as Her personal army.
>Please, listen to me. Run. Run away now, or you WILL die!
>Know that no man has heard a word from my tongue and not gone astray! If you wish to stand so much as a chance, believe nothing I say between breaths!
>That's how she throws them off! She's speaking through me! Don't listen to her!
>You stand before Naudigr, Chooser of the Slain and Mouth of the Frost Queen! Here, at the crown of the world, you will meet your end!
>Even my NAME means "unwilling!" I'll tell you everything, just please listen to me! Before she came, there was no magic here. It was a brighter, warmer world. When she destroyed my home in a blizzard, only my soul lingered on, too weak to pass beyond this life!
>By this spear I shall slay you, and by Her power you will rise as a champion of death!
>She found me. Twisted me. Strengthened me just so I wouldn't break. Then I found out why. It is bliss to obey, and agony to resist her. She controls my body, all I can do is hold back - but she forces me spirit to resist. She knows it will hurt more that way.
>You should have taken heed of this, before you dared to disturb Her tomb! Now you will pay the ultimate price!
>I can't break. I want to break. I can't give in. I NEED to give in. I fantasize about becoming nothing more than a blissful, mindless avatar! I CRAVE DEATH!
>Now face the judgement of ice, interloper!
>You are the hero sent to destroy me! You are the prince sent to force my hand in marriage! Do what you must. For your father, for your kingdom, for your world! Kill me! KILL ME! And when you are done, destroy the woman buried here, or you will only replace me!

Because Veeky Forums won't let me post in that thread anymore for some reason. Why do you have to whine?

Yep. Didn't see that as I was posting here from not being able to post in the other thread. Either way we're in agreement the scale of the cyoa is way off.

>I will concede it's exceedingly difficult to have things be cool and make sense at the same time.

> I'd suggest you should do some research to get a proper sense of scale if you're going to make a cyoa on a universal scale. A universe is massive.

I don't want the cyoa to be at a true universal scale for the above reason. At the "proper" level it would not be very fun for us (humans) to imagine, it is just too far removed from our reality. Sorry even if I am a "god" of the universe, I would prefer to imagine it as a cool adventure with godly melee weapons with my best pals Odin, Ra, and Vishnu, as opposed to say changing the laws of physics to some end. The setting still works at a multiverse level, and the only reason the fantasy got broken was one user complained about magic over and over and over and over until the author said in frustration "THE DEMIURGES ARE OMNIPOTENT AND MAGIC CAN DO ANYTHING INCLUDING DESTROY GALAXY'S". This should not be true to make sense to the setting shown. BUT the demiurges and incarnates are the most powerful beings in the multiverse and their struggles affect everyone.Being the "ruler of the universe" is possible goal if the right things exists (communication, travel capability, etc) although the bureaucracy would be in of itself close to infinite. Magic doesn't have to destroy galaxy's in an instant to be superior to tech. And the assertion that tech is so much better (which prompted the whole thing) is based on what a bunch of futurists THINK tech could maybe do. We have no idea what it can do and more importantly what can be done in the SETTING.

'cause i'm running, police on my back

working on a cyoa is bad, working on two at the same time is top autismo

going to post the waifu update soon, if anyone's interested

Speak for yourself if you're not the creator. The creator could have put it on a single galaxy scale. The whole multiverse things falls flat on its face if you can't even deal with just 1 universe.

Maybe others want the cyoa to be on a real universal scale. Their wants are just as valid as yours.

Dear Raven,
Is it possible to charge A LOT of luck over some time (3 months, for example) and make a miracle happen?

>Miami
Retiree Knight

The only reason it is as big as it is to begin with is it is largely a copy of "Kill Six Billion Demons". The setting still works though but the main characters should be viewed as incredibly powerful planeswalkers not omnipotent gods. Just because the setting takes place in multiple realities does not mean it "falls flat on its face" for only reaching a certain scale at the individual character level. If you really want a CYOA at universal scale go play the John Paul Sartre cyoa. Ultimately it will be at the scale the author wants it and he is well within his rights to make it how he sees fit. Neither of our wants matter in that regard.

>the only reason the fantasy got broken was one user complained about magic over and over and over and over until the author said in frustration "THE DEMIURGES ARE OMNIPOTENT AND MAGIC CAN DO ANYTHING INCLUDING DESTROY GALAXY'S"
Please stop being so ignorant.

The creator has said since the beginning that the Demiurges were nigh omnipotent and could shatter galaxies like Goku. For weeks now. This isn't something new that's come about from the argument.

>should
Only the creator decides 'should', not you.

DBZ has all the same problems you are complaining about.

>You
You didn't quote me at any point before now. I'm informing you that you made an incorrect assumption.

Now what would you be doing with that, hmm?

Shall we start debating if demiurges can make mountains they can't lift? I used should in reference to the beating the author has gotten at using the term omnipotent, but you are right I will let him define things.

You a very mechanical person aren't you?

Had a question for you in the previous thread:

>A more third-person view:

Once upon a time, there was a sorceress of great power, by the name of Svellvif. Born a mere runt among the Giants, only just above seven feet, she made up for her lack of stature in magical might.

The Giants were at war. They were the masters of Ice, but the Dragons were the masters of Fire, and the Raiju the masters of Lightning. The three sides had been evenly matched since the dawning of the world.

As she grew, she brought her magic to bear against the Dragons and the Raiju, finding only two equals to her control of the primal forces - Raijin, an old Raiju mage, and Kafsimon, a fledgling Dragon. As their escalation of the endless war tore whole continents apart, an unexpected power appeared.

They called her the Green Mother, and she brought true Life to the world. With her forces in tow, she cast the three armies down, sealing them beneath the earth. But the three great mages were pulled aside, for theirs was to be a worse fate.

First, Raijin was cast into a world without magic, his essence scattered upon the four winds that the clouds might forever shed his tears of suffering. Then, Svellvif was cast onto the north of the planet, to be trapped beneath the ice. At first, she chained Kafsimon beneath a volcano - but the connection she had opened to that world revealed that Svellvif had escaped her prison, and sought to make that world her own. The weapons of the people there could do nothing, and her ice pushed against the fires of their industry - so the Green Mother sent them a message.

They were to focus their greatest weapons on Svellvif's stronghold, and as they fired, Kafsimon's own fire was turned against him. Now a living bomb, he too was hurled into that world, and the explosion shook it to its core. Svallvif was dead... but the great cities were torn asunder. Countless billions died.

(cont.)

Yes. What makes you assume so?

Now why would I spoil the surprise?
No wars, of course. You never know how it's going to turn out with wars.

It affects all variations of the words, my dearest user. A very smart marker.
For example, if you chose 'Adventure' in today's group, and changed Dr. Mitzowsky's male pronouns to 'She', then it'd also change any reference of 'his' to 'hers', 'he'll' to 'she'll' and 'him' to 'her', as what is relevant.