Official MTG Snowstorm/Lore Thread

I find it interesting how so many Instants and Sorceries aren't actual spells in universe, but events, actions and circumstances.

Can you make a timeline out of cards for your flakes backstory?

Something for Ussa might be fun, but I don't have any real ideas at the moment.

The issue is that people would assume that he is using it offensively, or that he isn't focusing on the obvious indestructible-pariah synergy.

So this more or less makes the point 'hey, hey, this is an idea of how this guy fights' rather than 'these are exactly the spells that he is capable of using and exactly the deck that he would play.' And I look at the cards other people select in a similar fashion. You don't need to put in every option the character would ever use or a viable deck composition, just ten or so cards that fit the sort of techniques that the character would use.

All of that is true. I just got the impression from your replies that your flake doesn't actually summon anything, in which case I would replace the creatures with similar spells, if I were you. There also seems to be a lot of redundancy in that spellsheet.

On that note, anyone know any cards about losing all your powers Metroid style?

Well there's this, but I'd recommend not using it

Very interesting and close to what I imagined, but perhaps not quite on the mark. Maybe something that does something similar to creatures?

Welp, so far it looks like this is where Izari finally bows out. Glad she made it this far. I felt relevant for a change, at least for a little while.

Still rooting for her though.

In fact, I think she would actually win this fight. She doesn't do a lot of flying, she can handle the little stuff and the big stuff, and can keep herself healthy. Shame she's behind on votes.

>During each round, flakes will be assigned to random opponents in single-elimination tournament fashion.
>Flakes will be treated as though they are all neowalkers in order to create a balance of power.
>Flakes with meme-levels of power will be treated as though they weren’t.
>Flakes that directly contradict lore, especially by going against or interacting inappropriately with canon characters, will be disqualified.
>Flakes that are joke or troll flakes will be disqualified. The use of silver-bordered cards in a flake’s preferred spell list automatically disqualifies them.

>During the first round, all flakes will be placed into the roster randomly. Flakes that are disqualified will give their random opponents a bye for the round.
>During the first round, flakes will be revealed in smaller groups, noting disqualifications and asking the thread if they wish to disqualify anyone else.

>During each round, small groups of flake match-ups will be revealed
>Arguments will take place in the thread and votes will be taken from the polls over which flake is likely to prevail over the other.
>After each round, the flakes that move on will be re-randomized on the roster to make match-ups unpredictable.

>Match-Up rules will treat both competing flakes in a match as though they are both forced into conflict with the other, and neither is allowed to planeswalk away until a winner is determined. Flakes will be treated as though they start with zero assisting summons and will not have prepared for this encounter.

Current Match-Ups

Current Polls

Observation: The number of votes is, in general, higher than normal.

I'm paying more attention to the first one since that's where all the discussion was, but it's actually gone through points in time where each flake has had the majority/been tied for the majority of the votes.

Also, I think there's so many more votes because we're finally up in the finals

I've also noticed people tend to vote more during the workweek than on the weekends. But the numbers are relatively even, which is nice. Time to cast my own vote, I guess.

Just don't make it a three-way tie, cause three-faced coins are a pain to find.

Nah, I'm only voting on the second poll.

Like any good member of Veeky Forums that likes tabletop roleplaying games, I have an extensive set of dice. If I wanted to, I could literally just write each of your flakes twice on a blank d6 using a dry erase marker and roll it, then wipe it off.

>Not using an actual d3
what are you, not a dice collector?

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"WARNING: it may contain useless parts"

Will and Gaia have time in a bottle
The is Gaia and Diomedes
youtube.com/watch?v=4Wb2nZR6qbE
I'll let you figure out who is who

Since her figure tends to be pretty prominently mentioned, I ran Ussa's generously provided numbers into a body calculator to see if it'd be too awkward a shift from my normal way of presenting stuff and holy shit. Is she supposed to be supple or toned? I can't tell which.

Let's be honest with ourselves, 1d3 is basically a triagonal prism with extra, misshapen sides.

>supple or toned
I always leaned more towards toned, since she lives out in the wilderness all the time.

You should come with that label.

Her bald head was irking me.

sic burn

That's fucking disgusting.

I should come without the "may"

I can make you cum without the "may".

I know that this is Veeky Forums, but goddamn, some of you are thirsty.

Personally, I blame Serena.

I don't know, you seem to love the may mays

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Very.

Serena is to blame for all of our problems.

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Wow, you got a thing for anorexic chicks?

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Through strange circumstances, your snowflake is sent back in time, through the Blind Eternities, to a blank slate of a plane, an empty and barren wasteland. The snowflake gains all the power of an oldwalker and is free to shape and design this plane as they see fit, shaping it into whatever sort of world they desire.

>basiclandart.tumblr.com/

Take three images of basic lands from that link and post them in a collage, to present what sort of world your snowflake would make if they're given the chance.

Get plane-making!

>Hard Mode: Six lands.
>Nightmare Mode: Nine lands.
>Elspeth Must Die Mode: Twelve lands.

Friendo, if you believe I'm here to help your dick into your hand, you're gravely mistaken.

I always imagined her hips looking more...rounded than that.

>Adding lands is supposed to make it harder
The trouble I had last thread was making that list shorter

> anorexic
> the more proportionate representation of thick
> not blubber
Get out of here with that shit.

I agree. But, the pic I posted is better.

Take a look at that waistline and tell me that's healthy, user.

I got the feeling that most people didn't take part because they were too lazy to do nine images. Three's an easy starting point.

All admit, I found that thing and tried it 3 times before I realized you "photoshopped" the boobs on.

That image is shit

Shit, who drew that? And do you have a scan of it instead of just a photo?

You are comparing it to the boobs. Compare it to the head an arms. She is actually still thick, just big boobs and thighs. Mmm. Boobs and thighs. The pic I posted is actually a lot more healthy looking.

Gaia user.

I keep telling Gaia to just like, go to a library and scan this shit.

Dat hilt and crossguard. Odric's gives me swordboners for all the wrong reasons, too.

You know, in a couple of years people will start forgetting that Avacyn was ever a protector. They'll know she was, but when they think of her they'll only think of the madness she caused (from their point of view) and the horrors most of the angels became.
In a generation or two, her entire legacy of being humanity's protector will be forgotten by the common people.

Odric is such a baller. How many other characters have literal moonsilver weapons? I can only think of angels. What a cool guy.

Serena's was more inspired by Gisela though.

>In a generation or two
>On an innistrad with no angels

Making a lot of assumptions there, buddy.

A lot of the crazier things were emrakuled and probably died in the fighting or withered up like spawn are wont to do once their titans is sealed or fucks off.
Besides, humanity has
REM
MOTHERFUCKING
KAROLUS

I think that you're just trying to bait me here, but anyway.

That depends on how Innistrad goes from here, I get the impression from Thalia that she won't let that happen. If they continue to worship Avacyn and adhere to her beliefs from before SOI as Thalia and the Order of Saint Thraft did then the population at large won't forget. Of course there will still be plenty of people who resent her and the angels, there was plenty of those after the original block too.

Also this. Innistrad is ten flavours of fucked.

Man, Innistrad's aesthetic is so great.

It's unfortunate that some fucking moron looked at it and said "you know what this needs? More fucking tentacle monsters."

>Implying Sigarda won't make the lesbian hunters into angels
>Implying Thalia won't have bizarre adventures.

>It's unfortunate that some fucking moron looked at it and said "you know what this needs? More fucking tentacle monsters."
Veeky Forums, everybody.

>Implying that cosmic horror doesn't fit the horror plane.
Innistrad is perpetually ten flavors of fucked. Sure, Avacyn and 2/3rds of the angels are rip'd, but an entire bloodline of vampires got stoned and Arlinn is still around, and afaik she seems to be able to keep werewolves under control.
also, how likely is it that someone's gonna take Emrakul and make a cult based around her that warps it's view of her into an angel?

Cosmic horror and gothic horror are both horror but they are not the same fucking thing. Eldrazi, Phyrexia, and Innistrad worked in rapid succession the first time because they were all different kinds of horror. SOI/EMN just threw them all in the blender and hit the button.

Humanity's still fucked without angels. Last I checked, the army of unkillable demons wasn't going anywhere and now Sigarda, who isn't even as strong as Thalia anymore, is supposed to power wards to keep them out?

Also, Angels and Gryffs are quite literally the only things on Innistrad that don't eat humans. The end of the cursemute means there will be no living in peace with werewolves, because Arlinn's not nearly that powerful, all bets are off with the surviving vampires, who are led by a bloodthirsty psychopath, and you can bet the mad scientists and their armies of zombies didn't learn a fucking thing from what transpired and will go on making life hell for the now severely depleted forces of good.

Bonus points because Sorin, who is trapped, is the only planeswalker that actively gives a fuck about what happens to Innistrad. Once again, he is the best hope for the people, but this time he really can't do anything.

Let's clear some things up here:

A lot more than 2/3rds of the angels died. Sigarda's flight was the smallest flight by a decent margin, after you factor in how many of them will have died during that block there could be as few as 10 angels alive.

The Markov bloodline weren't that big of a deal as far as I can tell, they weren't as bloodthirsty as Volderans or as psychotic as Falkenrath so their death isn't a huge hit to vampire activity. However, Avacyn led an attack against Castle Falkenrath(Presumably with Flight Goldnight) and destroyed it, during SOI. That is a seriously big deal as I am led to believe that they were by far the most active bloodline, now heavily decimated and presumably without a leader.

Arlinn doesn't mean much. She can control herself but all that means is that any pack she leads she can potentially prevent from attacking humanity and maybe use it against the undead/vampires/demons. But there are far more packs that she has absolutely no control of and a lot of werewolves who have some serious resentment issues thanks to the sudden ending of the Cursemute causing them to slaughter their families in the middle of the night.

It doesn't matter how many demons died in this block, they're immortal and there is no longer a reasonable foil to them. I expect that many more humans will turn to worship them without Avacyn to put faith in, they're the only force left on Innistrad with the power to answer 'prayers'. Except maybe one moonmonster...

>also, how likely is it that someone's gonna take Emrakul and make a cult based around her that warps it's view of her into an angel?
It's already happened once before on Zendikar and they were a lot less desperate for an angel to put faith in.

Pretty much. Sigarda and the other archangels are several massive leagues beneath Avacyn. In 'A Gaze Blank and Pitiless' when Sigarda saw Avacyn approach she wrote off even attempting to fight or run, she resigned herself to death.

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Sigarda's Flight is by far the best flight to still be alive though, they have the ability to protect people even if it's a farcry from the power of Avacyn. However you must take into account all the damage to the ecosystem of Innistrad that the loss of the other flight causes:

Avacyn powered all the wards of the flights as well as granted the Cathars and Archmages their spells and abilities. Think of it like falling as a Paladin or pissing your god off as a Cleric, now you're just objectively worse than those who have never relied on magic for boons or those who haven't lost theirs, like ALL OF THE THINGS THEY FIGHT. A greatly overlooked part of Avacyn's power is that she was the Blessed Sleep there's a few sources on this but I believe the most recent was Planeshift: Innistrad.
>Avacyn was the archangel of Innistrad,revered across the plane as the source of hope, of protection, and of the Blessed Sleep—a peaceful eternity of slumber in the grave.
Now that is gone and especially without even Bruna and her flight to coral the dead there's going to be a lot more angry giests running around and a lot of very happy giestmages who are more often than not pretty unstable people.

Flight Goldnight taught basically ALL Cathars at Elgaud grounds, it's one of the reasons Cathars were such good fighters, they are taught by millennia-old beings who specialised in fighting. They were also at the forefront of demon and undead fighting. Undead especially is an issue, Gisa and Geralf and presumably Ludvic are still kicking and boy are there a bunch of lovely new corpses for them to use, imagine what fresh horrors Ludvic and Geralf can produce with Eldrazified corpses?

cont.

Ka'koarm's space is a scary place
and, like, 3/5s new phyrexia apparently. I guess they know how to raise horrors there.

In conclusion.

Thalia, her stand, Odric and REM FUCKING KAROLUS are pretty badass but they were all still around during the last absence of Avacyn and things were 10 shades of fucked then even with all the angels around and almost every demon in the Helvault.

The werewolves took a hit from the dronepack and Arlinn will hopefully make on pack into allies of humanity but they remain a serious threat.

Vampires took two massive hits with both the Markov and Falkenrath bloodline being decimated, losing their home and presumably their leaders. But only Avacyn's power has ever worked to repel them, they aren't natural beings, Sorin made Avacyn to combat them which is the only reason her symbol and power worked to repel them. As you can see in EMN's card 'Borrowed Grace' a vampire uses a holy symbol of Sigarda to defeat and Eldrazi monster, I'm sure that Sigarda only let him do that because they were allies of convenience but the point is that her symbol and power clearly is not anathema to them like Avacyn's was. The surviving vampires have very little to fear from the church with Avacyn gone.

Demons are sort of an unknown because they barely appeared in the last block. As far as we know though they're fine because they can't die and will probably find humans more eager to seek them out without angels to look up to. Something to consider though is that demons were Innistrad's answer to Avacyn, with her and most of the angels gone will many of them cease to be? I guess we'll have to wait on that one.

Undead are going to be a massive fucking problem still, perhaps more than ever without Flight Goldnight and with a huge amount of fresh corpses and no Alabaster wards to protect them. Angry Geists will become much, much more common with rampant necromancy and no Blessed Sleep.

So yeah, Innistrad got a lot, lot worse. Even with the damage dealt to both sides, the side of humans not dying definitely came out of this far, far fucking worse.

Wasn't the general consensus that all of the angels were moping doing fuck all until Avacyn returned?

>brunette Sigarda
>not ubermensch blonde
Delete this.

Also, pic related for Thalia and Odric. Innistrad is basically permanently wrecked and they don't have an Urabrask tier bro to help them.

Sorry.

I suppose I can't complain though now that I have TWO angel plushes.

No. Gisela and Bruna knuckled the fuck down and worked their asses off despite it. What DID happen is that they lost all the power Avacyn granted them by existing so they were a lot less powerful than they were with her. Just compare the new Gisela/Sigarda/Bruna cards to their old ones, there's no comparison.

Given that only one of my flakes would likely make a plane under those circumstances, this is what would happen if Winifred were put through the scenario:

Predominantly swamps and wetlands. People live in these marshes and near rivers. It can be beautiful, but the far-flung reaches are quite sinister. Traveling far enough, you could find where the streams eventually end and run off to a far-flung sea. The rocks are jagged no matter where you go, but reaching any barren place takes a great deal of time. As plentiful as the trees seem to be in the marshlands, it is incredibly rare to find anything that would count as a "forest," like a needle in a haystack.

She would then proceed to seed it. The only intelligent race placed there would be humans, and there would initially be no mages. The purpose of this is to keep the world non-complex and the populous easy to handle.

The vote tally is even higher. Like, five votes higher than normal, on a busy day.

I dunno whether or not to be suspicious, but there's about an hour left if you haven't voted yet, so hop to it.

There aren't really any land arts that represent what it would be. Not enough mushrooms.

Any other book/comic suggestions than Kamigawa cycle?
Any stories on oldwalkers maybe?

The Dark books are really good. Can never get enough of based Jodah.

Artifacts cycle

He's right. The Eldrazi are pretty boring and don't improve anything.

>owned The Gathering Dark for three months now
>have yet to read it
>mfw

I was in the same situation man. Then i read it. It was good.

I know this has probably been asked in previous threads, but does anyone have a download for the MtG font?

>No plains
>Rare green, the other colors with a presence are ally colors to black

Neat.

You mean Beleren? I have quite a few of them, yes. For making shitty custom cards that pander to my ideal Innistrad.

Oh boy, a tie. Winifred and Domoyl will have a Sudden Death match at the end of the Round.

The following Flake moves on to the next Round:

>Gaia

The next match-ups are as follows:

>Phylakteos VS Joth VS Serena
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>Narimi VS Ka'Koarm VS Andromeda
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DISCUSS!

I thought for a second Phylakteos was the Eldrazi guy and was about to say that and a lich is a random matchup that seemed perfect for maximum REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Izari didn't make it

Shame. I thought she really had a chance.

>>Phylakteos VS Joth VS Serena
The lich is a fairly good match up for Serena, if we're assuming all a neowalkers then he is nowhere near as strong as shown on her sheet and as a Goldnight angel killing necromancers and the undead is literally her job.

Im unsure about the Sphinx, she doesn't have her usual flight advantage but fortunately he isn't the kind of sphinx who has a fetish for mind magic or counterspells.

In game terms, most of Serena's best removal is exile based which is going to hurt the lich and both of them weak to wraths as they both seem to have very creature heavy strategies.

I'm still trying to be optimistic about it and hoping that no one is cheating for this silly contest.

I've just accepted that people ARE, in fact, this petty.

Andromeda again so soon? Are we already down to the quarter finals?

> Phyla:Joth:Serena
I feel like it's a no brainier who everyone is going to vote for. So, is an debate even meaningful?

> Narimi:Ka':Andromeda
Narimi is too inexperienced to face either of the two heavy aggro flakes even with enchant hate, it seems like she'd be far too slow to stop either of them from wrecking her face before Narimi had a chance to build up a countermeasure. And Ka' seems like he wouldn't be aggro enough for the angel/demon slayer. As she can build fast and end it quick with poison, putting buff counters on herself, or dealing instant damage with burning anger. Not to mention her artifacts.

As to the second match, I will point out Narimi is millenia old, and I don't think Andromeda is QUITE strong enough to take down Ka's horror rage machine. Hell, I'm not sure she could even generate big enough spells to take him out physically. I'll said it once and I'll say it again: Ka is basically a spell-slinging gyrados on cocaine.

Ka is very little if not aggro. Ka's spells are mainly fueled by rage, then accented by ambition and will. And on the matters of speed Ka'koarm's is, quite literally if you check, unnatural. The demon would have to be of the ilk of the more monstrous of innistrad's to keep pace, because Ka will always be right up in your face, and there's a whole lot of him and not a lot you can cut that will last. If you try and fly around and shoot at him, expect many of those to miss and the rest that do hit making him angry enough to rocket right into the sky after you. No steering mind, it'd be more thrustr-propelled jump, but ka'koarm will find a way to close the gap, natural or not. Most likely not.

As linked before, this is how Ka' behaves in battle
youtube.com/watch?v=iiKeTPL6HPk
save that he is a couple times larger.
Fighting Ka head-on is never smart, and the only flakes I was certain could do it either are out of the competition or are Gaia. If you want to beat Ka', using magics from blue, white and green that screw with emotions or magnitude of anger are ideal, because they render him unable to cast, meaning he slows, cannot regenerate, cannot counter, and cannot magnify stronk.

so... pacifism counters the angerfish?