Imperium Asunder

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uh, well there is the Imperial Senate Planet. Im thinking of renaming the Senate the Security Council as well, as it wouldn't be so much a governing body but one dedicated to maintaining the semblance of balance and uniting against external threats.

Thoughts?

Security Council sounds too modern, not 40k-y enough.

>Senate World Names
New Hope
Nikea
Terminus
Terra Nova
Cassandra Prime

>From last thread
Yeah, so call it strategic level or what have you, but culturally, do you think it's cohesive and avoids the BEST EST AT EVERYTHING 5 EVER?

>Terra Nova
The sheer audacity...

Securium Councilatus.

New Hope is a planet isn't it? Its far west, I think I used it in some write faggotry.

Terra Nova has a nice ring to it.

>Culture
My thoughts, being fairly critical
>rapid deployment force, that functions in loose ad-hoc groups, specialising in decentralised command and battlefield adaptation.
and
>they psychologically need to keep moving.
sounds better to me at least than
>feral barbarians with no cohesion whatsoever, who somehow, inexplicably manage to keep their supply chains running at peak efficiency.
>Empire and infrastructure is right up their alley
>fleet drifts as if disorganized, before suddenly, in a single coordinated moment, accelerating to max speed

The last one sounds better as a 1 time only ploy, make the enemy think the ships are drifting until you can get close enough. But i've never read the books so idk.

The last thing is that you are selling their red thirst as a bad thing, but its only ever a benefit to them, providing them focus (or a reason to at least devote themselves fully to focus) into various things, most notably the forge/psychics/espionage etc.

Pseudo-Latin for the win.

New Hope does exist out to the west, but I've seen it in a few places on a few maps.
Personally, I think it would be awesome if we could reuse Nikea, but I'm not sure where it is.

Sounds good to me. The feral barbarians bit had been how they might appear to outsiders on a bad day.

And yeah, I've yet to play up the negative of that red thirst. In part because I don't have a good name for it and I'm not sure what form it takes.
Most likely, there's that phase one red thirst like the BA or the RG Ash blindness. A reversible kill frenzy. The kind of thing that a marine recovers from covered in blood and not sure how they got there.

Then there should be a phase two Black Rage kind of deal, but I'm not sure what form that takes. I think it would be pretty neat if it opened them up to possession by seraphim, but that would be a later development.
In the heresy Era and afterwards, I'm not sure what their trip would look like. Siege of Tepectitlan, tearing apart Iron Hearts? Some sort of stranger atavistic trance?
Or maybe less a black rage, than a curse of the wulfen, wherein they go all were-jaguar.
Kind of like this last one. Creates a sense of shame of mutation that they'd hide into the 41st millennium. Of course, by that point, they'd have far stranger things to hide.

Whatever it is, you send them out to die a good death in combat as shock troops, since they're good for nothing else.

I like the contrast of a culture that seems barbaric but is actually quite refined. I think you're both agree more than you disagree.

In another topic, for narrative purposes I actually think all marines in the Crusader States should abide by the Second Founding encouraged by Alexios' Codex Astartes, which should be one of the major points of contention at the Council. None of the Crusader States should be culturally monolithic or politically unified, and I don't really like the idea of some legions having successors and others just staying united forever. Even Warhawks, especially the warhawks, who have no unified authority figure, should be a hodgepodge of different chapters with different names, cultures, and paint schemes.

In my opinion, anyway.

If it helps, I call the darkness within the Hawks 'the Thrill'.

its different for everyone and dependant on the situation but largely, they hear a 'song' in their mind, which provides them focus and a sense of glory. Providing them confidence even in the face of deadly opposition. It lasts only as long as the threat does. but the feeling it provides is good, and so they some get consumed by it, seeking it out.

Essentially a feeling of 'you are most alive when in the most peril'.

>neat if it opened them up to possession by seraphim,
>neat
>neat to be possessed
Well that sure sounds heretical to me

>refined barbarians
oh yeah it definitely has a place, and if thats what Xun wants to go for more power too him. I thought he was asking for critism and offered some.

The hawks would never go for 'second foundings' though. Its entirely against their culture and belief system. Because they don't utilise the same force organisation as regular astartes.

They operate in fleets and battlegroups entirely according to their leaders whims. They are more akin to OU Warbands than they are chapters.

The only unifying aspect they have is that, they pool assets like their star-forts, who need to have a single body to govern them.

At best, you'd end up with a situation like the Dark Angels, where the Battlegroups (chapters) claim to be separate entities (ala DA), but would have transfers between otherwise associated chapters, all at subservient to a Supreme Grand Master, in the form of a War Council.

In terms of narrative, I don't think forcing a faction like the Hawks into chapters achieves anything either. But would welcome ideas as to what it would achieve.

My 2c.