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Theoretical: Ask what theoreticals and practicals actually are in the thread

Practical: Continue shitposting about them without knowing what they mean

Were Justaerin and Catulans the only ones, apart from their officers and Horus himself, who wore black armour?

First for Magnus did nothing, and this is wrong

Complying.
Theoreticals are suppositions and hypotheses.

So both of those that I posted are practicals, right

Yes besides maybe the Destroyers.
>Practical: Continue shitposting
Doesn't seem practical to me.

I guess. I'm more familiar with the Mechanicum's hypothetical/practicals than with the UM's.

His final form.

(Currently Un-)Named Archmagos Reductor, 400

BS5 WS5 S5 T6 W4 I4 A3 Ld10 2+/3++

Unit Composition:
1 (Unique)

Unit Type:
Infantry (Character)

Wargear:
Mechanicum Protectiva
Cyber-Familiar
Augury Scanner
Abeyant*
Djinn-Skein
Machinator Array*
Master Crafted Paragon Blade
Melta Bombs
Four Cyber-Occularis
Rad Grenades
Power Fist
Lightning Gun

*Stat bonuses already included in profile

Warlord Trait: Dread Rites**
*The Warlord, and any unit they join, both cause Fear and are immune to it's effects, and have the Adamantium Will special rule.


Special Rules:
Independant Character
Stubborn
Battlesmith
Master of Destruction
Bodyguard
Relentless
Move Through Cover
Very Bulky
It Will Not Die
Hardened Armor
Fear
Fearless
Adamantium Will
Eternal Warrior
Blessed Electromancy*
Unseen Strike**

*Named Archmagos Reductor was noted for his morbid fascination with the lightning weaponry of the Thallax Cohorts and Krios Battle Tanks he commanded, as well as that of the Knight Magaera, for their effectiveness at disintegrating foul Xenos during the Great Crusade. He was sucessfuly able to make them more even more powerful, but lamented that he could not improve their armor piercing capabilities. An Ordo Reductor force with Named Archmagos Reductor as the warlord may spend 25 points per unit armed with Lightning Guns and/or Lightning Cannons to increase their Strength by 1, to a maximum of S8. Named Archmagos Reductor's own Lightning Gun has the upgrade applied at no cost.

**The character and their unit add +1 to their initiative characteristic in the phase they charge.

Loyalist
Named Archmagos Reductor may only be taken in a Taghmata Omnissiah or Ordo Reductor variant force, and counts as an Archmagos Reductor.

>tfw a player-made character in compliance with the character progression table has better stats than Decima, who is currently the only loyal Mechanicum.
Such is the powercreeping.

>Yes besides maybe the Destroyers.
fugg, hoped the gang-like nature would have allowed for more "ragged" looks.

>The REAL STORY behind why Russ and Magnus hate each other

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Is that supposed to be funny?

Different strokes for different volks

Agreed.

When you're high, breathing is funny.

so what IS the deal with the Luna Wolves/SoH/BL?

what's their THING aside from liking to attack shit

they don't have much personality, do they?

No, which is why no one plays them, even if they have a cool solor scheme, okay rules, and Horus.

The complete quote by Boku no Pico della Moravec

Humanity's elite.

Tip of the spear, organ cloaks, mafia, diplomacy, wolves

And Multiple simultaneous and defensive deep strikes :^).

But that's what they like to do, user. And Teleport assaults! And then they also become enslavers.

>And then they also become enslavers.
>Be Salamander
>Hear we're being deployed alongside the XVIth
>Aww shieet

I like to associate the legions with orky interpretation of colours, so SoH are just another regular bunch of boyz to me.
Except the black ones, those are proper killy.

>Ahh, you see, Massa, I have the Thunda Hamma now!

my two prospero boxes FINALLY shipped and I should be getting them by tomorrow or tuesday. I'm so fucking hyped. also settled on my 2500 point list with the two land raiders and legion mortis dread. any recommendations on whether I should give the mortis dread lascannons or autocannons?

>You and your Centurion traveled from Tyran to Talassar to hire one of my Catulans? No appointment no nothin?
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At least the three month wait till Inferno will let me finish all my infantry

Do you think two twin-linked Str 9 AP 2 shots can reliably kill on rhino in a shooting phase, and is it worth 155 points when a squad of 3 laser destoyer array rapiers is only 10 points more than that ?

Better question is do you need AA?

>three months wait

Such optimism

Seem to recall 4th of February as being the day it goes on preorder.

Combi-Melta and Chainfist on Grave Warden sergeant worth it?

what I really wanted was something with interceptor and around ~150 points. not enough points in the list for a deredeo unless I do some serious trimming and bring my veteran tactical squads from 10 man to 5 man...and I feel like 5 man squads are probably too low for 2500 points

>Combi-Weapon
>Instead of Grenade Launcher with two different ammo types
You already have a Chainfist for high AV/T.

Not that user, but what about a combi-melta?

Imperator is cute...CUTE!

Are there any 30k options for Adepta sororitas? Like daughters of the Emperor types stuff?

I'm relatively new to 40k and want to play them with some 30k units.

HOW IS THERE STILL NO BURNING OF PROSPERO SCAN IN OP LINKS


REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Are there any 30k options for Adepta sororitas?

No, they were not a thing but you could use the Imperial Cults and Militia list to make an army similar to that if your group is ok with it.

>These Mechanicum MCs I swear on me mum...

That would be a terrifying sight IRL.

>Are there any 30k options for Adepta sororitas? Like daughters of the Emperor types stuff?

No

Daughters of the Emperor didn't exist until post-Heresy when the Imperial Cult became a thing. Sisters thermselves didn't exist till like ~5,000 years after the Heresy

You have Sisters of Silence which are completely different but cooler and still called sisters, though.

It looks cool so go for it. It's what I'll do at least.

Nah mate, SoB were a M35 invention. The closest thing to them would be Word Bearers, being non-atheistic religious fanatics. Or Sisters of Silence, but the only similiarities between the two are that SoS are female.

We have evidence of female regiments in the Imperial Militia, and their rules allow for the use of a Provenance with Power armour, Rhinos, Land Raiders and bolters, which you could totally paint black with red and put some Fleur de Lis on them.
But everybody else will tell you that Sisters like that are a post-heresy invention, and you gotta pander to them! :^)

Combi-meltas are good on regular termis. Grave Wardens have special Grenade Launchers which are multiple use Assault 2 unlike the Combi-melta. They have Krak and Poison Grenades for their launchers, making them far more useful.

Just asking, is that a Warlord?

Its got a shoulder-cathedral, so its an Imperator of some variety

holy shit, does this work?

Crimson Path, 2500 pts

Kharn, 190 pts
Gahlan, 110 pts
5 x Red Butchers, Devoured with 2 Chainfists

Stormlord, Space Marine Crew, One Pair of Lascannon Sponsons, 555 pts

10 x Inductii, Pistol + Chainaxes, Power Fist, 140 pts
1 x Land Raider Phobos, 225 pts

10 x Inductii, Pistol + Chainaxes, Power Fist, 140 pts
1 x Land Raider Phobos, 225 pts

5 x Sniper Vets, Rhino with Multimelta, 150 pts
1 x attached Apothecary 45 pts

5 x Sniper Vets, Rhino with Multimelta, 150 pts
1 x attached Apothecary 45 pts

Deredeo Dreadnought, Aiolos Missile Launcher, 220 pts

2490/2500

Rhinos with Vets outflank and get a 4+ FNP in the enemy deployment zone, Land Raiders rush up field to unleash Inductii, Stormlord does the same with the Red Butchers + Gahlan + Kharn for 4+ FNP and 3+ if they reach the enemy deployment zone. Deredeo protects the undefended rear with Interceptor. what do you think?

That Titan isn't as annoyed as this one. But I guess being an Imperator Titan isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Awww, we don't have text for the Imperator...now do we? The Warlord is already damn nasty.

What emotion you think it has, sempai? Also, is it attacking the Imperial Palace?
...Is it the Dies Irae?!

or alternatively I'd drop the Apothecaries, make it 10-man Veteran squads with a 5+ FNP in the enemy deployment zone, and drop the Deredeo missile launcher to save points.

Why do you need the Raiders for your inductii? Can you even take them as DTs? Frankly, i would run Kharn and either two inductii blobs or three POTL Weaponmaster vet squads each with apothecaries in the Stormlord, and have two units of Butchers in Land Raiders instead.

...

It's mildly miffed. Also, I doubt that's Dies Irae. Legio Mortis had a habit of taking the bones of their foes and putting them on their Titans before the Hefesy, and that Titan isn't wearing spooky scary skeleton armor.

more AV14 means more target saturation so that an opponent won't have an obvious choice of firing at the Stormlord, because Inductii are fucking br00tal in close combat from what I've heard from you guys/friends. I'd be taking the raiders as heavy support choices.

correction: I don't have friends, I meant redditors

I swear I read someone presenting a Titan to Horus, describing it as the ultimate machine of destruction, only to find that the quote was being said by the Titan itself, self-aware. And I don't remember if it was Dies, but I haven't found that quote ever since.
Help?
But didn't you came to the conclusion that separating Kharn from the Butchers meant there was no single ovbious target anymore?

Frankly i think you're wasting the Stormlord with your list. Its a superheavy that can fit forty fucking dudes in it, and you're using it as a glorified land raider. Fill it full of insane fucking murderers, two 19-man inductii with apothecaries, then build the rest of your list around that. Multiple LRs full of butchers and a Xiphon or dorito to cover your ass is what i would add to that

that was List A: that one involves having a Dreadclaw with the Butchers and Tartaros with Kharn, but not enough points for Land Raiders so the Inductii would have to hitch a ride with the Stormlord. which is still a pretty good idea.

>"What is this?"
>"What did you do, you little shits?"
>"What did you do?!"

Sounds good to me. What's the new plan, then?

Heres a better version that actually uses your assets, i.e. a fucking superheavy assault transport

190-Kharn, Gorechild, Crimson Path
110-Surlak
330-5xCommand Squad, LR Phobos

510-Butchers with Chainfist-LR Phobos

110-2x AA apothecaries

240-19 inductii, sergeant with AA/PFist
240-19 inductii, sergeant with AA/PFist

205-Xiphon

555-Stormlord, Space Marine Crew, One Pair of Lascannon Sponsons

2490

Not one, not two, but three party buses full of screaming insane fuckers. You could swap the Xiphon for a Dorito with aioli missiles, but i prefer the Xiphon.

was thinking the classic land raider rush with a bit of a twist here except I think has a good point about wasting the Stormlord...I'm just worried about loading up THAT many dudes into one tank, even if it is a superheavy with 40 capacity. you know, the whole "all your eggs in one basket" thing, so I'm gonna be thinking about that tonight while watching more Vampire Diaries.

Now look at this net, that I just found.

oh well that's pretty fucking good too! thanks dude. do you like the xiphon? I've never seen it in a game

It wasn't Horus, it was the Father of All Titans talking to Abaddon about itself.
>"By the Fell Gods and the destiny of warp, by the death of the False Emperor and the dying of the stars, we bring to you, Warmaster Abaddon, Beloved of Chaos, Despised of Man, this tribute. For now these last days are the final fires burning, the black flames that consume a galaxy, the storms of the warp that drown out life, the End Times and the dawn of a galaxy of Chaos. We swear fealty to the Gods of Chaos and their herald, Abaddon the Despoiler, with this tribute that it might strike fear into the followers of the Corpse-Emperor and that through it they may see the true face of death..."

Since when do titans have eyeballs?

It's so annoyed that it grew eyes.

It's essentially guaranteed to explode anything in the air that you point it at on the turn it comes in due to four s8-9 ap2 shots, and few people near me bring more than two things for me to kill with it. Also a bunch more survivable than a Dorito since it can jink, and even when it jinks it can keep an enemy flyer jinking too due to the two twin-linked lascannons being likely to hit anyway

Can anyone explain the guilliman x Jain xar meme to me?

So tg, I'm starting Thousand Sons. What do I buy and build beyond the obvious Prospero/Calth box?

Dreadnoughts. TS are THE dreadnought legion.

Land Raiders. TS are THE land raider legion.

Wow, thanks user.
Say, do you happen to have the pic of Alpharius clad in MkIII?
youtube.com/watch?v=M94VA4cSTuc
>watching more Vampire Diaries.
And then (You) ask why people bully you, KA.

That picture actually looks nice like that.
>Alpharius in mk3
Sorry but I don't.

Eldar want the Primarch cock.

Javelins. TS are THE javelin legion

BAAAAAANEBLAAAAADES. TS are TEH BAAAAAANEBLAAAAADES legion.

Thousand Sons. TS are THE thousand sons legion.

one or two rhinos

Despite all the land raiders and heavy ordinance, a 35 point box is just plain handy to have around.

How good are Dark Angels without their personal rites of war? I want to go old school Terran Crusaders who fought by the Emperorcs side during the unification

>by the Emperorcs
Da great Waaagh wuz da dawnin uv a new age fer Orkkind.

As to your question, they have mediocre LA benefits with a fairly substantial downside that's somewhat mitigated by their special equipment.

This image makes me want to investigate BFG. Can anyone here tell me if it's any good?

DA are going to be a stong legion. You can definitely go old school crusaders, go HAM on the old broadswords and claymores. Also, hope you like tanks, they do those quite well.

>is it any good?

It hasn't been in production for years and the community is like epics, mostly keep to themselves and play at each other's basements

The models are decent but expensive on resale

The spiritual successor made by the same designer (Andy Chambers) is Dropfleet Commander which has just come out in the last month, it has a thread on Veeky Forums if you're curious

Isn't there a new vidya about it now?

Isn't there a rumour that it's going to get fired up again by the new Specialist Games division, or is that just Epic and BloodBowl for now?

I just want to ram ships with my Gloriana class ship.

Its not a rumor but I dont think we'll be seeing BFG anytime soon, maybe late next year, right now its all about blood bowl and the LotR and Epic seem to be the next games to come out.

Necromunda should be an easy game to sell, just a box plus some minis and the rulebook.

Battlefleet Gothic: ARMADA is the vidyagame

What are the oldest patterns of equipment or vehicles available? The oldest dreadnaughts, rhino, and bolter styles.

Old as sprues designed years ago or old as in new sprues of old stuff?
Sorry that probably made no sense.

I mean like, do you want to kit all your dudes out in Mk2 with Phobos bolters, or are you asking if stuff like the first Rhinos, Land Raiders and Dreads are still available for purchase?

On this note I found a load of old Bolt Pistol arms from the original Space Marine squad box today, was going to use one but the pistol is fucking tiny compared to current ones.

>Can anyone here tell me if it's any good?
Yes, it's good. Legit models can be pretty expensive but there's someone on AliExpress selling recasts for an almost reasonable price.

I mran like in universe old. Not the 'new' stuff they're finding or making like Leviathan dreadnoughts, but like are Casteferum Dreads or Contemptors older? Deimos or Mars Rhinos? Ect.

Anyone here regularly run a Leviathan siege dread? Whats your experience and with what loadout?

I want to get one for my Iron Warriors as they feel kinda thematic, and look awesome. I'm more of a dread>tank guy aesthetically.

I got sick of fucking knights everywhere near me. So i use the Melta Lance+siege drill combo in a pod. If your opponent lacks a Knight, it makes a good anti-armour unit, and can maim superheavy tanks and pop spartans with ease

Been watching a fair few battle reports recently and from what I've seen they're best put in a dread drop pod to get them to where you want them.

They're slow af but good counters to Primarchs and Knights in CC. Couldn't tell you how good the grav bombard or phosphex canisters are.

It would look boss in Iron Warrior colours.

Did anyone save the DG painting guide from the last few threads? I went back as far as I could in the archives, but couldn't find it.

Deimos Rhino
Contemptor Dread
Phobos Bolter