>30k TACTICA & TIPS What to include in a HH list, how to format it, what makes each legion special (crunch), tactics, Tutorials for Heresy-era minis and more pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLp
Theoretical: Ask what theoreticals and practicals actually are in the thread
Practical: Continue shitposting about them without knowing what they mean
Adam Torres
Were Justaerin and Catulans the only ones, apart from their officers and Horus himself, who wore black armour?
Aiden Lewis
First for Magnus did nothing, and this is wrong
Leo Roberts
Complying. Theoreticals are suppositions and hypotheses.
Ryder Parker
So both of those that I posted are practicals, right
Luis Rodriguez
Yes besides maybe the Destroyers. >Practical: Continue shitposting Doesn't seem practical to me.
Brayden Foster
I guess. I'm more familiar with the Mechanicum's hypothetical/practicals than with the UM's.
Owen Gray
His final form.
(Currently Un-)Named Archmagos Reductor, 400
BS5 WS5 S5 T6 W4 I4 A3 Ld10 2+/3++
Unit Composition: 1 (Unique)
Unit Type: Infantry (Character)
Wargear: Mechanicum Protectiva Cyber-Familiar Augury Scanner Abeyant* Djinn-Skein Machinator Array* Master Crafted Paragon Blade Melta Bombs Four Cyber-Occularis Rad Grenades Power Fist Lightning Gun
*Stat bonuses already included in profile
Warlord Trait: Dread Rites** *The Warlord, and any unit they join, both cause Fear and are immune to it's effects, and have the Adamantium Will special rule.
Special Rules: Independant Character Stubborn Battlesmith Master of Destruction Bodyguard Relentless Move Through Cover Very Bulky It Will Not Die Hardened Armor Fear Fearless Adamantium Will Eternal Warrior Blessed Electromancy* Unseen Strike**
*Named Archmagos Reductor was noted for his morbid fascination with the lightning weaponry of the Thallax Cohorts and Krios Battle Tanks he commanded, as well as that of the Knight Magaera, for their effectiveness at disintegrating foul Xenos during the Great Crusade. He was sucessfuly able to make them more even more powerful, but lamented that he could not improve their armor piercing capabilities. An Ordo Reductor force with Named Archmagos Reductor as the warlord may spend 25 points per unit armed with Lightning Guns and/or Lightning Cannons to increase their Strength by 1, to a maximum of S8. Named Archmagos Reductor's own Lightning Gun has the upgrade applied at no cost.
**The character and their unit add +1 to their initiative characteristic in the phase they charge.
Loyalist Named Archmagos Reductor may only be taken in a Taghmata Omnissiah or Ordo Reductor variant force, and counts as an Archmagos Reductor.
Nathaniel Price
>tfw a player-made character in compliance with the character progression table has better stats than Decima, who is currently the only loyal Mechanicum. Such is the powercreeping.
Samuel Perry
>Yes besides maybe the Destroyers. fugg, hoped the gang-like nature would have allowed for more "ragged" looks.
Gavin Gutierrez
>The REAL STORY behind why Russ and Magnus hate each other
what's their THING aside from liking to attack shit
they don't have much personality, do they?
Jaxon Sullivan
No, which is why no one plays them, even if they have a cool solor scheme, okay rules, and Horus.
Jayden Price
The complete quote by Boku no Pico della Moravec
David Lewis
Humanity's elite.
Grayson Garcia
Tip of the spear, organ cloaks, mafia, diplomacy, wolves
And Multiple simultaneous and defensive deep strikes :^).
Jackson Torres
But that's what they like to do, user. And Teleport assaults! And then they also become enslavers.
James Sanders
>And then they also become enslavers. >Be Salamander >Hear we're being deployed alongside the XVIth >Aww shieet
Isaac Johnson
I like to associate the legions with orky interpretation of colours, so SoH are just another regular bunch of boyz to me. Except the black ones, those are proper killy.
Austin Brooks
>Ahh, you see, Massa, I have the Thunda Hamma now!
Wyatt King
my two prospero boxes FINALLY shipped and I should be getting them by tomorrow or tuesday. I'm so fucking hyped. also settled on my 2500 point list with the two land raiders and legion mortis dread. any recommendations on whether I should give the mortis dread lascannons or autocannons?
Alexander Watson
>You and your Centurion traveled from Tyran to Talassar to hire one of my Catulans? No appointment no nothin? youtube.com/watch?v=c2LE6ez3eIc
Samuel Turner
At least the three month wait till Inferno will let me finish all my infantry
Cameron Russell
Do you think two twin-linked Str 9 AP 2 shots can reliably kill on rhino in a shooting phase, and is it worth 155 points when a squad of 3 laser destoyer array rapiers is only 10 points more than that ?
Parker Wood
Better question is do you need AA?
Adam Reed
>three months wait
Such optimism
David Wood
Seem to recall 4th of February as being the day it goes on preorder.
Brandon Perez
Combi-Melta and Chainfist on Grave Warden sergeant worth it?
Samuel Harris
what I really wanted was something with interceptor and around ~150 points. not enough points in the list for a deredeo unless I do some serious trimming and bring my veteran tactical squads from 10 man to 5 man...and I feel like 5 man squads are probably too low for 2500 points
Logan Rivera
>Combi-Weapon >Instead of Grenade Launcher with two different ammo types You already have a Chainfist for high AV/T.
Jacob Nguyen
Not that user, but what about a combi-melta?
Jonathan Lee
Imperator is cute...CUTE!
Brayden Collins
Are there any 30k options for Adepta sororitas? Like daughters of the Emperor types stuff?
I'm relatively new to 40k and want to play them with some 30k units.
Brayden Rodriguez
HOW IS THERE STILL NO BURNING OF PROSPERO SCAN IN OP LINKS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
William Johnson
>Are there any 30k options for Adepta sororitas?
No, they were not a thing but you could use the Imperial Cults and Militia list to make an army similar to that if your group is ok with it.
Bentley Powell
>These Mechanicum MCs I swear on me mum...
Austin Ward
That would be a terrifying sight IRL.
Grayson Ramirez
>Are there any 30k options for Adepta sororitas? Like daughters of the Emperor types stuff?
No
Daughters of the Emperor didn't exist until post-Heresy when the Imperial Cult became a thing. Sisters thermselves didn't exist till like ~5,000 years after the Heresy
You have Sisters of Silence which are completely different but cooler and still called sisters, though.
Eli Barnes
It looks cool so go for it. It's what I'll do at least.
Colton Johnson
Nah mate, SoB were a M35 invention. The closest thing to them would be Word Bearers, being non-atheistic religious fanatics. Or Sisters of Silence, but the only similiarities between the two are that SoS are female.
Jordan King
We have evidence of female regiments in the Imperial Militia, and their rules allow for the use of a Provenance with Power armour, Rhinos, Land Raiders and bolters, which you could totally paint black with red and put some Fleur de Lis on them. But everybody else will tell you that Sisters like that are a post-heresy invention, and you gotta pander to them! :^)
Carson Scott
Combi-meltas are good on regular termis. Grave Wardens have special Grenade Launchers which are multiple use Assault 2 unlike the Combi-melta. They have Krak and Poison Grenades for their launchers, making them far more useful.
Leo White
Just asking, is that a Warlord?
Dominic King
Its got a shoulder-cathedral, so its an Imperator of some variety
Tyler Hughes
holy shit, does this work?
Crimson Path, 2500 pts
Kharn, 190 pts Gahlan, 110 pts 5 x Red Butchers, Devoured with 2 Chainfists
Stormlord, Space Marine Crew, One Pair of Lascannon Sponsons, 555 pts
10 x Inductii, Pistol + Chainaxes, Power Fist, 140 pts 1 x Land Raider Phobos, 225 pts
10 x Inductii, Pistol + Chainaxes, Power Fist, 140 pts 1 x Land Raider Phobos, 225 pts
5 x Sniper Vets, Rhino with Multimelta, 150 pts 1 x attached Apothecary 45 pts
5 x Sniper Vets, Rhino with Multimelta, 150 pts 1 x attached Apothecary 45 pts
Rhinos with Vets outflank and get a 4+ FNP in the enemy deployment zone, Land Raiders rush up field to unleash Inductii, Stormlord does the same with the Red Butchers + Gahlan + Kharn for 4+ FNP and 3+ if they reach the enemy deployment zone. Deredeo protects the undefended rear with Interceptor. what do you think?
Connor Torres
That Titan isn't as annoyed as this one. But I guess being an Imperator Titan isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Brandon Bailey
Awww, we don't have text for the Imperator...now do we? The Warlord is already damn nasty.
Ethan Taylor
What emotion you think it has, sempai? Also, is it attacking the Imperial Palace? ...Is it the Dies Irae?!
Easton Stewart
or alternatively I'd drop the Apothecaries, make it 10-man Veteran squads with a 5+ FNP in the enemy deployment zone, and drop the Deredeo missile launcher to save points.
Nathan Reed
Why do you need the Raiders for your inductii? Can you even take them as DTs? Frankly, i would run Kharn and either two inductii blobs or three POTL Weaponmaster vet squads each with apothecaries in the Stormlord, and have two units of Butchers in Land Raiders instead.
Michael Thompson
...
Ryder Adams
It's mildly miffed. Also, I doubt that's Dies Irae. Legio Mortis had a habit of taking the bones of their foes and putting them on their Titans before the Hefesy, and that Titan isn't wearing spooky scary skeleton armor.
Connor Rodriguez
more AV14 means more target saturation so that an opponent won't have an obvious choice of firing at the Stormlord, because Inductii are fucking br00tal in close combat from what I've heard from you guys/friends. I'd be taking the raiders as heavy support choices.
Chase Powell
correction: I don't have friends, I meant redditors
Dylan Stewart
I swear I read someone presenting a Titan to Horus, describing it as the ultimate machine of destruction, only to find that the quote was being said by the Titan itself, self-aware. And I don't remember if it was Dies, but I haven't found that quote ever since. Help? But didn't you came to the conclusion that separating Kharn from the Butchers meant there was no single ovbious target anymore?
Jaxon Fisher
Frankly i think you're wasting the Stormlord with your list. Its a superheavy that can fit forty fucking dudes in it, and you're using it as a glorified land raider. Fill it full of insane fucking murderers, two 19-man inductii with apothecaries, then build the rest of your list around that. Multiple LRs full of butchers and a Xiphon or dorito to cover your ass is what i would add to that
Hudson Hughes
that was List A: that one involves having a Dreadclaw with the Butchers and Tartaros with Kharn, but not enough points for Land Raiders so the Inductii would have to hitch a ride with the Stormlord. which is still a pretty good idea.
Jordan Moore
>"What is this?" >"What did you do, you little shits?" >"What did you do?!"
Aiden Scott
Sounds good to me. What's the new plan, then?
Easton Bailey
Heres a better version that actually uses your assets, i.e. a fucking superheavy assault transport
190-Kharn, Gorechild, Crimson Path 110-Surlak 330-5xCommand Squad, LR Phobos
510-Butchers with Chainfist-LR Phobos
110-2x AA apothecaries
240-19 inductii, sergeant with AA/PFist 240-19 inductii, sergeant with AA/PFist
205-Xiphon
555-Stormlord, Space Marine Crew, One Pair of Lascannon Sponsons
2490
Not one, not two, but three party buses full of screaming insane fuckers. You could swap the Xiphon for a Dorito with aioli missiles, but i prefer the Xiphon.
Hunter Watson
was thinking the classic land raider rush with a bit of a twist here except I think has a good point about wasting the Stormlord...I'm just worried about loading up THAT many dudes into one tank, even if it is a superheavy with 40 capacity. you know, the whole "all your eggs in one basket" thing, so I'm gonna be thinking about that tonight while watching more Vampire Diaries.
Jeremiah Watson
Now look at this net, that I just found.
Parker Gray
oh well that's pretty fucking good too! thanks dude. do you like the xiphon? I've never seen it in a game
Nathan Miller
It wasn't Horus, it was the Father of All Titans talking to Abaddon about itself. >"By the Fell Gods and the destiny of warp, by the death of the False Emperor and the dying of the stars, we bring to you, Warmaster Abaddon, Beloved of Chaos, Despised of Man, this tribute. For now these last days are the final fires burning, the black flames that consume a galaxy, the storms of the warp that drown out life, the End Times and the dawn of a galaxy of Chaos. We swear fealty to the Gods of Chaos and their herald, Abaddon the Despoiler, with this tribute that it might strike fear into the followers of the Corpse-Emperor and that through it they may see the true face of death..."
Kevin Perry
Since when do titans have eyeballs?
Henry Brooks
It's so annoyed that it grew eyes.
Landon Gutierrez
It's essentially guaranteed to explode anything in the air that you point it at on the turn it comes in due to four s8-9 ap2 shots, and few people near me bring more than two things for me to kill with it. Also a bunch more survivable than a Dorito since it can jink, and even when it jinks it can keep an enemy flyer jinking too due to the two twin-linked lascannons being likely to hit anyway
Wyatt Reed
Can anyone explain the guilliman x Jain xar meme to me?
Kayden Wood
So tg, I'm starting Thousand Sons. What do I buy and build beyond the obvious Prospero/Calth box?
Chase Brown
Dreadnoughts. TS are THE dreadnought legion.
Robert Rodriguez
Land Raiders. TS are THE land raider legion.
Jack Long
Wow, thanks user. Say, do you happen to have the pic of Alpharius clad in MkIII? youtube.com/watch?v=M94VA4cSTuc >watching more Vampire Diaries. And then (You) ask why people bully you, KA.
Carson Peterson
That picture actually looks nice like that. >Alpharius in mk3 Sorry but I don't.
Matthew Morgan
Eldar want the Primarch cock.
Jason Perez
Javelins. TS are THE javelin legion
Alexander Bennett
BAAAAAANEBLAAAAADES. TS are TEH BAAAAAANEBLAAAAADES legion.
Jayden Ramirez
Thousand Sons. TS are THE thousand sons legion.
James Myers
one or two rhinos
Despite all the land raiders and heavy ordinance, a 35 point box is just plain handy to have around.
Nicholas Gonzalez
How good are Dark Angels without their personal rites of war? I want to go old school Terran Crusaders who fought by the Emperorcs side during the unification
Brody Kelly
>by the Emperorcs Da great Waaagh wuz da dawnin uv a new age fer Orkkind.
As to your question, they have mediocre LA benefits with a fairly substantial downside that's somewhat mitigated by their special equipment.
Jordan Miller
This image makes me want to investigate BFG. Can anyone here tell me if it's any good?
DA are going to be a stong legion. You can definitely go old school crusaders, go HAM on the old broadswords and claymores. Also, hope you like tanks, they do those quite well.
Samuel Carter
>is it any good?
It hasn't been in production for years and the community is like epics, mostly keep to themselves and play at each other's basements
The models are decent but expensive on resale
The spiritual successor made by the same designer (Andy Chambers) is Dropfleet Commander which has just come out in the last month, it has a thread on Veeky Forums if you're curious
Ryan Edwards
Isn't there a new vidya about it now?
Hudson Kelly
Isn't there a rumour that it's going to get fired up again by the new Specialist Games division, or is that just Epic and BloodBowl for now?
I just want to ram ships with my Gloriana class ship.
Samuel Rodriguez
Its not a rumor but I dont think we'll be seeing BFG anytime soon, maybe late next year, right now its all about blood bowl and the LotR and Epic seem to be the next games to come out.
Necromunda should be an easy game to sell, just a box plus some minis and the rulebook.
Ethan Allen
Battlefleet Gothic: ARMADA is the vidyagame
Nathaniel Myers
What are the oldest patterns of equipment or vehicles available? The oldest dreadnaughts, rhino, and bolter styles.
Christopher Mitchell
Old as sprues designed years ago or old as in new sprues of old stuff? Sorry that probably made no sense.
I mean like, do you want to kit all your dudes out in Mk2 with Phobos bolters, or are you asking if stuff like the first Rhinos, Land Raiders and Dreads are still available for purchase?
On this note I found a load of old Bolt Pistol arms from the original Space Marine squad box today, was going to use one but the pistol is fucking tiny compared to current ones.
Daniel Wright
>Can anyone here tell me if it's any good? Yes, it's good. Legit models can be pretty expensive but there's someone on AliExpress selling recasts for an almost reasonable price.
Brody Ross
I mran like in universe old. Not the 'new' stuff they're finding or making like Leviathan dreadnoughts, but like are Casteferum Dreads or Contemptors older? Deimos or Mars Rhinos? Ect.
Logan Jenkins
Anyone here regularly run a Leviathan siege dread? Whats your experience and with what loadout?
I want to get one for my Iron Warriors as they feel kinda thematic, and look awesome. I'm more of a dread>tank guy aesthetically.
Dominic Hill
I got sick of fucking knights everywhere near me. So i use the Melta Lance+siege drill combo in a pod. If your opponent lacks a Knight, it makes a good anti-armour unit, and can maim superheavy tanks and pop spartans with ease
Charles Lee
Been watching a fair few battle reports recently and from what I've seen they're best put in a dread drop pod to get them to where you want them.
They're slow af but good counters to Primarchs and Knights in CC. Couldn't tell you how good the grav bombard or phosphex canisters are.
It would look boss in Iron Warrior colours.
Ethan Young
Did anyone save the DG painting guide from the last few threads? I went back as far as I could in the archives, but couldn't find it.