Warhammer 40k General

so . . . literally nothing has changed!

well I guess that's a minor plus since I don't need to revamp my army

>primarch for 40k

Oh yeah and Loyalist Primarchs too.

Have you seen traitors hate or whatever their supplement is called?
I think they got formations but I dont know how good they are, they also got new psychic powers.

>Also other legions are getting codexes and their own respective Daemon primarchs.
Also there is no guarantee and certainly no timeline for this claim.

Could I get some advice on what to do with my Grey Knights?

Their fluff is cool to me and I like their version of power and terminator armor so after I got my hands on a Rule book and before I downloaded my codex I rushed out and bought a Blood Angel's Terminator Librarian (model has a cool pose and I like the axe) and a box of Paladins.

I still haven't gotten a game in yet and was reading through the rules when I realized I need troops to run an actual army.

Unfortunately not really I love the new models for my birthday last week I got a Land Raider Crusader and a Dreadknight (Is the sword and fist + psycannon a good loadout for this thing btw?)

Now I troops and have heard the Terminators for troops isn't the best gimmick. The problem is that I am at almost 1000pts just with the models I own.

What should I cut too make room for troops and is 1000-1250pts too high to start?

Can't wait to see old Lion El'Johnson or old Guilliman. Hope they do something cool.

What chapter should I start to use my spare Mastodon with?

A black templar mobile crusade control post sounds cool as hell

>Guilliman's sarcophagus is a fortification that acts as an objective
:^)

Didnt mean to quote anyone

So what are your hopes for Magnus? I'd love to see him have something really super unique, like causing wounds with his sword gives him warp charges for out of phase casting or something. Like maybe not exactly that but you know what I mean, something cool and rule breaking.

I like the idea of a mobile command post. If it's black templars, put a saints coffin on top of it and surround it in thralls. It would make sense they would combine war and faith almost like SoB.

I know it's fucking stupid Veeky Forums, but I want to get a 40k tattoo. A chaos undivided star on my chest.
Talk me out of it.

>orks
>Bottom teir
they're midteir for killteam and bikespam lists.

For all we know 40k might not exist in a decade and you will feel stupid for the rest of your life.

Even if it does exist, you might just change armies or lose interest altogether.

>counting kill team for the tier system

Wrong.

I agree though, a good ork player that is running bikespam and reinforces it with Mek Guns can do work.

An Aquila would be more badass. The chaos Star looks like a star. That's what people would think it is.

If Dorn comes back in 40k, I want him to be disappointed in the BT. Sigismund was his greatest failure, then Sigi's worshippers are twice the failure, doing the one thing the Emperor forbade all from doing, worshipping him.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Black Templars, I just think it'd be kinda cool. Might be an unpopular opinion, but I dunno.

I know someone with multiple 40k tatoos but he has been playing for literally decades so unless you are on that level of dedication and not just riding a hype train or having been through the ups and downs of a few edition changes then do not bother permanently putting something on you thats only significance is 40k.

You're literally getting a brand new Codex for Thousand Sons in like a month, maybe wait for that first?

Eh sounds kinda boring. There are lots of IF successor chapters, some literally whip canyons into their backs before wars.
I don't understand this whole end times thing. 10,000 years of history and they stick everything at the end.

>Dorn - "I'm so disappointed, I can't believe you're worshiping the emperor as a god"

>Helbrecht - "Yeah well you tend to find religion when you're using the bodies of your dead brothers as cover because your father made you walk into an obvious trap"

>Templars - "Ooooooohhhhh"

>those quads
>those rumours
>the lack of any new slaneesh unit on any warhammer since AoS
I'm super scared right now guys

I dunno mate, the BT are second founding and the only ones who worship Dorn as much as them are the Hammers of Dorn, but they follow the Codex so perfectly that they've mastered the art of venerating the primarch, as detailed by Roboute Guilliman, and therefore do not actually worship.

:^)

Incidentally, the stage is set in AoS for exactly the same thing. There's even mention of Shadow Daemons.

I'm just saying any stories involving dorn in 40k should be about the wars he's fighting. Screw the relationships with second founding chapters.
Will he reunite the legion? How many chapters can make it to Terra in time? Does he still give a flip about Terra? What happened on that chaos ship?

Disclaimer. This is just, like, my opinion man.

Shadow Daemons who likely serve Malerion the God of Ulgu aka the jailer of Slaanesh.

BRING BACK MALAL!
[/spoiler]KEEP MALAL GONE!

I'm not sure whether you meant to screw up your spoiler or not.

Such is the ways of the Chaos god of Chaos.

How cancerous is to work at a GW store?

RIP slaneesh I barely cared about you anyways

Whats everyone working on tonight?

Ive got around 32 marines I need to basecoat left, trying to find motivation.

Just built my last squad of bolter scouts. Need to prime them tomorrow.

Be'lakor fills his role in 40K.

This is false.

Be'lakor is not about Chaos fighting Chaos. Only Malal is. Or perhaps he is not.

They won't bring back Malal after how it ended with the guy that created it, so the safest bet is that Belacuck will be the one(GW will probably tell he was behind the whole Malal thing anyways).

runs the risk of being mistaken for nazi iconography

> runs the added bonus of being mistaken for nazi iconography

ftfy

a new god of blight shows enters the pantheon

chaotic ratmen begin to appear on the fringes of imperial space...

Are Vindicare assassins worth it? I'm running guard and I'm a little low on the AT, and I have a spare vindicare lying around.

What are guards most reliable AT? Exterminators w/LC/MM? Vendettas?

The hornet rat is too redundant because of Nurgle and I love how the other gods just ignore the little shit.

1-Don't bother

2-Vendettas

slannesh is the little shit of the chaos gods already

hes always playing distant fourth fiddle

though he isnt redundant

>Be'lakor is not about Chaos fighting Chaos.

Except he is.

Be'lakor is rebelling against he Chaos Gods. He spends his time destroying their champions or recruiting them in his anti-Chaos God army. His ultimate goal is to topple the Gods of Chaos.

I thought that was Archaon's shtick.

>A FUCKING ROCK

Archaon's is Be'lakor's son-in-shadow. He talks after him.

Shadows cannot be harmed by the physical.

>a fucking rock though

...

Is an MSU minmaxed list inherently cheesy?

I play Dark Eldar and love Reaver Jetbikes. Have a 1k game coming up Thursday and want to run 5 units of 3.

No shape or form. Pure shadow. Only magical weapons have hope of harming Be'lakor and even then only if doesn't see coming.

Also Be'lakor, being first daemon ever created, is older than every anti-daemon or banishment spell. This makes him resistant to holy weapons.

>A

>fucking

>rock

So, how big are the land battles in 40k? Most of the battles and wars that I have seen seem to be awfully small.

This just came up.

The Old Ones created massive daemon prisons before the War in Heaven where they threw billions of daemons inside. With Be'lakor being older than any spell of banishment or binding, that makes him possibly older than the Old Ones. I mean he certainly has memories of before the War in Heaven so this is further proof that how based Be'lakor is.

40k is supposed to be 'skirmish' sized

you can play massive battles but they're a completely imbalanced clusterfuck

or are you talking fluff wise

>TFW you know alpha legion ain't gonna get jack, no primarch, no scouts, no skimmers, no specialist ammo.

fluff-wise. Tabletop is barely Battalion or even Company-level.

knew a guy who had the aquila on his bicep.

was pretty cool and people dont really know what it means.

a chaos star on your chest would be faggish as fuck.

Wasn't him because

1-Be'lakor cannot exit the Warp via warp portals. It's impossible for him
2-Non-Magical physical objects phase through Be'lakor. Even Magical objects if he sees them coming would phase through his body
3-Be'lakor was destroyed by Archaon at the time of that battle in the Chaos Wastes

You got rock for brains.

Salamanders

Why would they make a fake Be'lakor just to get smashed by the lizards? It was him and he got ROCKED by big scaley cocks.

you could try footslogging huge 20 man warrior squads. terrible idea but you could

with an army like DE they have to do msu in transports otherwise they wouldn't survive

The Changeling in more than one occasion took the form of Be'lakor.

Also they used Be'lakor model as a count-as random daemon prince because DP models at the time of that WD looked like crap.

Sorry, the fluff is the fluff. Rocks cannot hurt shadow and Be'lakor cannot into Warp portals. And Be'lakor was in the Chaos Wastes bonding with his son.

Bonding with his son over getting smashed by rocks.

So, what they're just gonna WHOMP slaanesh outta existence, AoS style?

No, there's going to be a whole story thing.

Knight Porphyrion rules.

Literally why though? What'd Slaneesh ever do to gee dubs to get scrapped after all this time.

Nope, over destroying the world which they succeed in doing.

Since this 40K thread, I will being it back to 40K. Be'lakor aka the HERALD OF THE END TIMES crowned Archaon as the Everchosen and the world will be destroyed. Be'lakor in 40K crowned Abaddon as the Chaos Ascendant and proclaimed that the galaxy will be destroyed.

Be'lakor is never wrong this means that the fate of 40K is sealed by the will of the Dark Master.

>435 points

Low sales.

Could there be any less proof in that post?

You have nothing to worry about until someone posts some actual links as evidence.

>Be'lakor is never wrong this means that the fate of 40K is sealed by the will of the Dark Master.

wew

Figures, nobody wants to take the butch-biker-dykes over the Diazmonettes.

thats what happens when you shit out 4 str10 ap1 pie plates with absurd range and huge survivability

>that feel when all you have are butch daemonettes

He was right about WHFB, right? Give me ONE reason why he won't be right about 40K.

Reavers are decidedly not cheese even in MSU. They don't gain the awesome armor or twin linked weaponry of any of the other bike units in the game, they physically can't survive charging a unit with even a single flamer. Trust me noone is going to accuse you of cheesing Reavers or Dark Eldar in general unless maybe you go Haemonculus covens.

because they ruined FB because nobody played it, and a lot of people play 40k

I think he was commenting on how absurdly low that is.

A Crusader with an ironstorm pod is 20 points MORE expensive and it doesn't have the Titan-grade weaponry that these rules have.

I'm doubting these are legit but who fucking knows.

I think ghostwalk matrix is for walkers only? but I could be wrong...

also: a unit of 10 fire dragons is too large, what do you plan on using 10 meltas for? cut that usit to 5 and add another unit, maybe dark reapers?

I would not add too much vehicle equipment, most things aare nice to have, but rather costly... And I would add more bodies before adding (point)expensive characters....

Might be beta rules, it has a surprising lack of wargear and special rules. Then again, this might be one of the few times FW goes Full Retard.

>Household Rank: One per army
>Somehow this excuses its ridiculous rules and wargear

I can see this happening.

There are lots of rocks in 40k.

Not enough to stop the End Times.

From what I heard, 40K salesa re declining.

Methinks they need a boosting enema of molten End Times.

>giving household rank to units outside the Questoris Knight army list
Sure, give him +1WS and BS. And +1 to his invuln save. And a re-roll on the Knight Warlord chart so he can get lucky and grab IWND.

Never played 40k, or any table top miniature for that matter, but I'd order the big ass games workshop book (it was like a phone book) just to look at the artwork.

Damn that was/is good stuff.

Buzzgob has to pay nearly 600 if he wants just two 10/1 pies.

Id say youre better off nabbing out outdated book at huge discounts.