Metathread

Have you seen the characters

Isn't there one thats constantly pregnant or someshit

yeah dude /pfg/ is garbage

The preggo character was called out as shit-tier character immediately, at least.

Surprisingly most of them aren't. /pfg/ calls out the fetish characters and for the most part hates them.

The Shadowrun generals were really cool for the most part. Recently we had a couple of derailed threads, but aside from that loads of people exchanged neat ideas and artwork and stuff.

Trick question OP

All generals are cancer that don't belong on an imageboard. All general posters should be removed. Creating a General should be bannable offense site wide.

This is an imageboard. Not a forum. Go to a forum if you want static discussion.

>literally every op is a fucking anime bitch

yeah.

We're trying to fix that.

No we're not, it's hilarious.

An imageboard's a type of forum and a type of bulletin board, you silly bastard.

Isn't /pfg/ constantly advertising ERP games with fetish characters?

>Best
/wipg/

>worst
/hhg/ and /wfbg/, especially when the posters spill out of those containment threads

From what i hear its literally the OP shitposter that calls them ERPs, nobody else thinks they are, the DMs don't advertise them as such.. they're not.

No, they just won't shut up about the one that was posted.

But they're still "lewd" games with fetish characters and nobody can stop talking about how sexy or THICC or fuccboi their characters are.

Mostly we tell people who do that to fuck off.

Well what would "ms. Hands" Hotaru think, saya?

Best general "candyland General"

Worst "fatal general"?

>look at current /pfg/
>Closest we've come to that so far is people joking about how edgy they can make a character and someone else joking about how their character is dumb enough to think that would be cool

Muh fetishposting

I'm not even dying it happens but its not as bad as people say.

Nominating /gurpsgen/ for best. Everyone's always helpful and constructive, almost no infighting, tons of good questions and replies with actual well-rounded and often complete content.

Oh yes
seconding that opinion

read the general before that.

... there is a person talking about fucking tigers, and another one in the last thread chatting about fucking motherly matron figures.

I voted for Nader, I hate generals!

Seriously, I wish general OPs were just stickies on the board so people know where to download pdfs from and that being it

Man it's so weird. I stopped coming hear at least a year ago, and when I came back in recent months (finally got the group back together to roll dice and kill shit) the board had banned quests and is filled with generals. It's a strange change, like shit just isn't the same. Everyone's sort of concentrated in their generals and I just don't see as many spontaneous topics anymore.

Why is it that there's been an uptick in these threads? Do I just have a bad sample size or have these things been more frequent in the past few days?

Even when it's not a kitsune shitfest it's all devolved into weeb trash tier, furry races discussions and almost only 3pp builds

Because it is a veritable farm of (you)s since Veeky Forums is incapable of NOT responding to bait threads.

Imagine those crazy spiral eyes looking into yours in the bedroom

This man is correct.

thirded

>Man it's so weird. I stopped coming hear at least a year ago, and when I came back in recent months (finally got the group back together to roll dice and kill shit) the board had banned quests and is filled with generals. It's a strange change, like shit just isn't the same. Everyone's sort of concentrated in their generals and I just don't see as many spontaneous topics anymore.
user, you're not following the script. You're supposed to say that you left the board a couple years ago because Veeky Forums was 90% quest threads, and you just came back a few days ago and are happy they're gone.

+1.

I personally think 40k RPG general is way better than the shit that is 40k general

I like EDH/Commander I mean, everyone will definitely help you build a deck no problem, and it's really a pretty reasonable group unless the "Competitive Commander" players show up.

Actually, who even does that?! Commander is for the fun, not the win.

Because it's a containment thread

Because 2hu has such an encyclopedic knowledge of the setting that you can't get a good argument going to keep the thread rolling, and there aren't enough people that give a shit about it to keep the thread going with anything else.

Like if you tried to start Birthright, Ravenloft, Dark Sun, Spelljammer, Mystara, or Al Qadim generals.

This, or /osrg/.

Talk to me when the OP isn't obvious Waifu-bait. Also, there's something fundamentally wrong with an RPG where building the character you're roleplaying as requires the same sort of discussion as optimized MTG deck-building or assembling a Wargame army.

/gdg/ is pretty nice, even though it dies fast and often

>/fowg/ not the greatest general of all time.
Bitch we have our own podcast.

I once liked worldbuilding general, but by now I feel like it doesn't respond well if you want to bounce around matters of setting feel and aesthetics in your head.

I feel it would be better, if it would be more looking at specific mechanics and less "Still working on x in my project, here is the pdf.".

Don't play, but /fowg/ and historical wargaming look pretty comfy.

Correct. Don't let the word out though, or else the plebs will flood it

>Which is the best general on Veeky Forums?
Rommel, obviously

What really no Creed?

>I once liked worldbuilding general, but by now I feel like it doesn't respond well if you want to bounce around matters of setting feel and aesthetics in your head.
I literally started /wbg/ and it's really annoying how few people respond to anything. It was never intended to be a "showcase" of settings and whatnot, but a place for people to ask questions about how to improve their settings to make them more realistic, or more fantastic, or more unusual. It was also so people would stop asking the same questions and making the same mistakes about maps.

Now maybe two or three people will respond to a post and that's it. There's not much back and forth discussion, and there's a lot of
>Here's my map/setting
>Rate

Unless you want intact supply lines.

I'd say /tgesg/ is the best, can't pick a worst because all the generals I've visited so far have been relatively pleasant.

Storythread is good and contributes to this board

fuck the haters that say it belongs on Veeky Forums

Board police are the worst. Fuck 'em all.

>contributes

Taking up space on the main page with crap no one reads is not contributing.

Fuck off to Veeky Forums

Princess Quest is by far the worst.

It's just a giant train of e-begging so a mediocre artist will draw their shitty OC. Also it's a terrible idea for a game.

>main page

LEWD

>things I'm not interested in should be deleted
>the board should cater to me alone

This is exactly the kind of shit I was talking about when I said board police are the worst.

>I want this board to be /b2/
Things that are off topic should be deleted, fantasy fiction is not traditional games.

We came from /b/, and have never in our history been a wholly "on topic" board. Get with the program or get out.

But I don't like GURPS... Why does it have to be the best?

>This, or /osrg/.
/osrg/ tends to get mighty angry if you want to play a different kind of OSR game.
OSR also seems to attract /pol/ types.

Worst thing that happened to those threads.

Except the supposed benefit of no quests, such as the front page no longer occupied by mostly quests (which was never really true to begin with) and more spontaneous topics, never materialized. We sliced that part off to create an orphan board and then fill the gap with a bunch of generals and CYOAs (which I still don't understand what makes a CYOA different from a quest), plus the "spontaneous" topics are often the same bait thread over and over (just like back in the day, just different topics as the preferred hook). Veeky Forums basically evolved into /a/ but with even more generals.

Also I never left over quests, I just stopped coming because I no longer had a game to play so I had less incentive to come here and pick up new gaming tips. Hell I still have like three permanently open tabs that mark my reading place in this one quest I was trying to catch up in but haven't read in like 2 years because damn that's a lot of reading.

>/osrg/ tends to get mighty angry if you want to play a different kind of OSR game.
>OSR also seems to attract /pol/ types.

Neither of those things are true, though.
Unless you're the guy who wanted OSR to mean "anything at all, as long as it's old" and got mad and argued with everyone about how you don't like early D&D and want the thread to change its focus for you. In that case, yeah, people got mad at you.

Generals are cancer and should be quarantined to their own board like Veeky Forums. they take up tons of frontpage spots to have essentially the same discussions over and over again, and have enough of a following that they push original posts and new content to the back of the line. The reason Veeky Forums is stagnant and that /pol/ thinks it can try to gain some control here is because that particular brand of inactivity bleeds out the creative and sucks in shitposters.

Generals. Are. Cancer.

>n-nothing changed when quests got the boot
>IT MUST BE THE FAULT OF GENERALS

Actually what bleeds out the creative is YOU FUCKERS KICKING THEM OFF THE GODDAMN BOARD AND BANNING THEM FOR THINGS THAT ACTUALLY GET CREATIVE.

/qst/ has better worldbuilding and construction of societies and aliens than Veeky Forums does now.

First they came for the quests, but I did nothing because fuck those faggots, they just take up space and are annoying
Then they came for the generals, and I did nothing because generals are cancer, amirite?
Then, when they came for Veeky Forums, there was no one left to stand up for us, so we all just migrated to /a/

The thing about /pfg/ is that it has devolved into one of the same reasons why quests got the boot: it's just a glorified gamefinder general; it's solely for the niche group of people involved and excludes all others. Even if you fervently deny the fetishposting, it's just the same few people/namefags talking about this future game that everyone who has any interest in would have already joined (or tried to, as apparently there's fucking applications just to join). Anyone who wants to talk about the system itself has to wade through threads of people discussing this homebrew, which is the same type of exclusion that made long-running quests a nuisance to have clutter up the board. And because there is so much tangential discussion about PF itself, threads fill up and new ones bump other content off much faster.

Put an advertisement in the OP if you want, but seriously take your roll20 game discussion and kitsuneposting elsewhere. I don't even play Pathfinder much anymore, but when this type of behavior starts spilling into /5eg/ and other threads, it becomes an issue.

>/pol/ thinks it can try to gain some control here is because that particular brand of inactivity bleeds out the creative and sucks in shitposters.

/po/ posters keep showing up because Veeky Forums is the easiest board to bait and falls for it every time.

Just fucking report and move on with your lives and they'll go away.

Veeky Forums isn't the same without the quest threads. And /qst/ is dead.

They were creative, but that doesn't make it Veeky Forums related. Quests weren't even as Veeky Forums related as the /erpg/, and that got kicked off years before.

Generals are sort of a problem, but they're unrelated to quests. Threads were probably better back before generals started cropping up, but now we're in the age of generals, and those are the new trend.
I can't think of anything that would change it, and I'm not entirely sure they're *that* big a problem, since "hey, can I get help with this one thing?" threads usually turned into generals anyway, and at least now they've got pastebins and megas and whatnots for the newcomers.

That's how the generals always are. I mean, most people don't go into the generals for other games, and usually people are only on Veeky Forums for the one general. That said, getting into a general is far easier than getting into a quest, since you don't actually *need* to read the other posts.
Though I don't know the /pfg/ in particular, so maybe that one's just uniquely incestuous. Every time I stopped by it seemed to be "we hate Pathfinder and do nothing but bitch about it even though no one is forcing us to play".

Except reporting does nothing. It's not even that we "fall for bait".

It's not only the scarcity of replies, it's wen you get grumbly replies that you shouldn't flesh out the thing you are working on, or just take the most obvious option because players allegedly won't interact with it or care for more in depth detail. It really peeves me when the fucking worldbuilding thread advises to decrease worldbuilding.

>They were creative, but that doesn't make it Veeky Forums related. Quests weren't even as Veeky Forums related as the /erpg/, and that got kicked off years before.

>character building and roleplaying isn't Veeky Forums
>world building isn't Veeky Forums

>if I reduce it to a few constituent components it looks more favorable
Videogames have character and world building, doesn't make it Veeky Forums related. The relevant people have already made their decision, quests are not related to Veeky Forums

Let me ask you a question:
How is character building and worldbuilding more fitting for Veeky Forums than Veeky Forums? Ignoring of course that Veeky Forums is run by pretentious fucks.

I also don't really see the quests as "roleplaying". They primarily weren't. It's as much roleplaying as Twitch Plays Pokemon.
There have *been* roleplaying quests in the past, but that was one person running several different replies to eight or ten posters, not the way Quests are usually run.

I browse tg almost exclusively for /gdg/ and /wbg/ and I try to be the change I want to see.

Those two are at their best when there's tons of ideas being floated around and people put back in what they get out (I.e. get a question answered, so they answer someone else's question). When they're on fire they're probably the best example of Veeky Forums getting stuff done, but the inverse is also true. I just wish they could be a little more sustainable and productive. The peer review, while nice, is one of the lazier aspects of each.

/wbg/?

Also, worst thing about general threads is that I always want someone else to make them, which is why you should make a Game Design General right now, so I can talk about my Bloodborne system.

Honestly with how dead this fucking board is, that might be the ideal solution.

Yep, you're right, nothing changed. It was all generals then and it's all generals now. Quests were never the problem.

>being this revisionist

World building general

I might make /gdg/ soon, but then again so could you

Generals are a cancer upon Veeky Forums. Why don't you just join a fucking forum if you want persistent threads?

Waithe until we hit /aco/ or /po/ levels before claiming Veeky Forums is dead.

Quests were, and still are Veeky Forums related. That is not debatable. It's like saying pokemon isn't /v/ related.
The problem was too many quests, not their board relation. Anyone saying otherwise is just maki g their side look dumb.

Just post it in your own thread. I wouldn't mind it, and anyone who would will bump your thread enough. I see no reason not to have it.

Quests are literally tabletop games. Some are straight rips of d&d.
Their board relatedness is unquestionable, which is why they were here for a decade. They left because there were too many.

Quests that originated here were mostly fine, the biggest issue was when /a/ bitched hard enough that moot decided to dump ALL quests into here.

That was the real problem, yeah.
Though nrwmoot falling for the trolls didn't help

Considering they're like 60% of Veeky Forums's population now, that would leave Veeky Forums a fucking ghost town. More than it already is.

Also this guy knows what's up: >They left because there were too many.

No, they were shoved off because shitposters whined and bitched until the mods gave them their way. The quests were never more than a small percentage of the board. I turned off my quest filter like a year and a half ago when I realized it barely made any difference on the catalog. Yet the anti quest fags, being unable to count or add, wouldn't shut up about "half the board" being quests.

>Considering they're like 60% of Veeky Forums's population now, that would leave Veeky Forums a fucking ghost town. More than it already is.

And?

I don't have any of the resources.

But Pokemon is literally a video game. Quests are not roleplaying games. They're roleplaying adjacent. They're Choose Your Own Adventure books (unlike the actual CYOA threads here, which are even less Veeky Forums related and just... building a character based on points? There's no adventure even being chosen; I assumed they counted as quest threads, but apparently the mods thought otherwise).

Quests are not tabletop games. They're people voting for where a story goes. Some of them having stats doesn't make them tabletops; or, if they are table tops, it's the Twitch Plays Pokemon of Tabletops.
There definitely were too many of them, though. We could also probably get rid of Magic. I like Magic and it's undeniably a tabletop game, but fuck, there's a thread for each format.

*Most* of the quests seemed /a/. So many

Generals aren't a problem with Veeky Forums, they're a problem with Veeky Forums
Also, no one believes that quests were literally "half the board", but when 20 out of 110 threads are quests, that's a lot. Especially when you'd get multiple quests throughout the day, which makes them very noticable.

Also, how is Veeky Forums "a fucking ghost town" in the first place?

The primary advantage we have here is post speed.
Without that, we have the exact same low quality posters of other forums, but with nothing good to offset them.
The dream of anonyminity died with ban evaders and ad info sales.

Generals aren't the problem there - the archive is. It's a lot harder to have threads be as ethereal as they used to be when they stick around after their death.

Then again, that's not really something that could've been avoided - even before Veeky Forums started keeping dead threads around for a week, you still had sup/tg/ and easymodo 4plebs and all the other third-party external archive sites.

D&D is probably not the best comparison - that's more the CYOA books of old, Lone Wolf and whatnot. Still Veeky Forums as fuck, but it's more directly (and obviously) related.
Although some of the old ones (e.g. Ruby Quest) were more of the vidya adventure game form, like Zork with graphics, but those kind of stopped being a thing after a while. (The most obvious example of the type of thing I'm talking about outside Veeky Forums is probably the older pre-Homestuck MS Paint Adventures stuff, to be honest. I kind of wonder where it all started.)

"Half the board" was always bullshit - "half the front page" was slightly more legit, but
>[CURRENT YEAR]
>Not using the catalog
>ISHYGDDT
That's all just because quests have a more constant bump rate, though, and thus float to the top a bit.

Quests are literally roleplaying games. That is why they were here near a decade, and often run using roleplaying systems.
This much is not debatable.

>Also, no one believes that quests were literally "half the board"

Then why did folks repeatedly claim that for years? Nah, don't bother, I already know the answer to that -- shitposters.

>Also, how is Veeky Forums "a fucking ghost town" in the first place?

Number of unique posters has been falling for the past year. Traveller threads used to get 50-70 posters, now they barely crack 15. The OSR thread population is down, as are several other threads I follow. People are leaving, and nobody's coming in to replace them.

Veeky Forums is dying as a board. Every cintent creation method we have has been chased away repeatedly over the years, and the old positive creativity has been replaced by jaded shitposters and /pol/.

I have a question for you stupid fucks screaming and crying about Generals.

You ban them. Sure, ok, fucking fantastic.

Now what? What constitutes a general? 3 people talking about [thing]? 4? 5? Where's the cutoff? Because how DARE fans of [thing] gather in a thread to talk about [thing], that's just cancer!

Any thread I dislike, obviously.