So why is there people that keep insisting that 40k is a deep, well constructed and serious setting?
This baffels me. It's batshit silly, ironic and hyperbolic in most aspects. One of the running jokes is that the Imperium is operated like Weekend at Bernie's and dadjokes everywhere.
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It's simple really. Kids grow up with 40k, they don't understand the irony and British humour; so they end up taking it seriously. When they grow up to become neckbeards they don't want to admit it to themselves that 40k is silly so they rationalise a lot of things about it.
You misspelled baffles.
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To add to this, the writers started drinking their own kool-aid around 3rd and 4th edition, so even they started removing the humor and going full grimderp.
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I think that Black Library is the primary offender in this. They decided to present the Horus Heresy like it was a serious drama.
Black Library was a mistake.
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What dadjokes?
I think he means that 40k is puntastic.
This made me cringe.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4kRRcI5nMk
When you've had so many different people contribute to it through so many separate games/books/comics/audiodramas/fanfic/etc you're gonna have the good, the bad, and the ugly.
Just don't worry about it too much and focus on the aspects you enjoy.
Autismos that can't understand subtext views 40k as a serious setting for serious people.
A reasonable answer? On my Veeky Forums?
I see we have a special case of the Auts here.
If we give you a gold star, will you feel validated and go away?
Shit, also sage, because I forgot to sage like a fuckwad moron.
It's entirely possible for something to be humorous, satirical and over the top and still have the potential to say something nuanced or interesting. "Well constructed" is an outright fucking lie, though.
40k is definitely a black humor setting, but there are bits of it that are supposed to be fairly serious/sad. I always compare it to Blackadder Goes Forth, a ridiculous and bizarre comedy full of poop jokes... that's ultimately about the futility of war and the fragility of human beings in the face of world shaping events.
The only people that keep on insisting 40k should be taken seriously are those at GW.
Give me back the campy, ridiculous 40k with an entire planet full of Jungle Schwarzeneggers armed with knives and where 80's Hair Band Chaos Marines exist. I want the Grimdarkness to be laughably overblown, and the only time things should get serious are when Manly Tears are meant to be shed. Give me back the era when Angry Marines, Clown Marines, and Pathetic Marines fit right in.
Give me that 40k.
You don't get to decide. GW has already decreed what is acceptable. You must follow this, or suffer the wrath of the Lawyers.
I know, right.
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We fix it ourselves, and another 40k-verse like the Hektor Heresy, Nobledark 40k, or the Veeky Forums Heresy.
I'd love to run Rogue Trader or Dark Heresy in something like this.
40K forgot it was a satire after the first couple of editions, and then so did the fanbase.
>It's batshit silly, ironic and hyperbolic in most aspects.
Y'know, that was the idea, decades ago.
But things took a dark turn and today we have shit like Horus Heresy.
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Sometimes I wish there was more exploitation of themes like time travel and alternate realities/dimensions besides the warp. We already know they exist and that there are plenty of organizations that partially or fully utilize (and weaponize) them directly. And the fluff even has plenty of seeds with room for "alternate" universes where for example the Emperor succeeded and made normal thinking Primarchs who never turned or whatever and their Imperium is actually the nice one.
I'd love the idea that the current 40k we know is actually the hell for a whole bunch of other dimensions and their advanced residents.
>they don't understand the irony and British humour
40k is silly
40k is not ironic, it's not satirical
It's made by people who read things like dune and 2000AD and thought those were awesome, and wanted more of that. It was made by honest to god metalheads out of a garage, not the backwards delusion that things made in the 80's or by british people were all campy and tongue-in-cheek humorous.
40k was (and is) silly BECAUSE it takes itself seriously, despite the absurdity of its contents.
I mean, it was like 2000 AD. It was both "serious" and tongue-in-cheek. It was cynical, but it was still intended to be goofy and fun if you read between the lines at all. It was badass and metal, but also fun at a basic level.
because when people hear silly they think stupid not over the top, and thus they want to prove that their hobby is not stupid