MTG EDH/COMMANDER GENERAL

Xenagos Beast Tribal Fatty Stompy deck here. What are the best Beast Token Spawners I could have in my deck, besides Garruk? I'm not planning on having a ton of them, but having a few reliable sources to spawn beasts would be nice.

Also, essential 2 CMC or less Beast cards? Ones that have the best effects for the lowest price in this kind of deck.

Is Mon's Goblin Waiters a viable mana source for this kind of deck, or should I be focusing less on having creature tokens in a beast tribal. I was also planning on including Epic Struggle.

Hanna should really only be run with Mindslaver.

Primeval Bounty is a pretty easy going spawner.

ZADA IS MY FAVORITE COMMANDER
YOU CAN PLAY THIS SPELL
AND GET INSANE VALUE

>beast tokens
Fresh meat is pretty insane, but more for a sac deck than a Xenagod deck, still good against board wipes though

Honestly don't think tokens are what you want in a Xenagod deck

Also

>essential
>2cmc
>beast

There aren't really many or any

Garruk's companion?
Makindi slide runner?

>grave upheaval & migratory route
yeah it's mostly there for the land cycling, with other effects
>hanna
haven't really played with her that much, but yeah i can see her being too slow
>valorous stance
this card is the greatest surprise card. even when people know you have it in your deck, they never expect it. it's a great surprise card on the level of boros charm
>coastal breach
what better board wipe can I put in?

You already have good board wipes, you can run Scourglass and/or cyc rift if you feel you need more, but I don't think you NEED more

And yeah I'm not saying valorous stance is bad I just don't think it's as important to the deck as other cards. It's funny you mention Boros charm because that would save you against bane of progress and fracturing gust unlike valorous stance

You're in the best color combo for board wipes ever, what do you mean "what better board wipe can I put in"?

Well, you're on the right track, since they are a joke.
All kidding aside, I can't really think of any Circus themed cards other than showstopper and few animals, but they're not really on-colour mostly, like lions.

at 3-4 mana, coastal breach gets rid of a lot of problems. what better wipe is there?
i may switch it out for boros charm actually. and cyc rift is already in the list, but scourglass feels a little bad.

i also kind of want to put a ugin in the list, it's a serious threat, good board wipe, and has no colour restrictions

Tuning my Doran deck, looking to get better draw engines going.

So far I have Phyrexian Arena and maaaaybe Mentor of the Meek. I've used Deathreap Ritual before to mixed results. I feel I'm going to cut it as my local meta hasn't been going wide with creatures and it isn't reliable enough. I really, really need another Sylvan Library, but am counting it out for now.

How about Necropotence? I've got a spare, but the BBB always makes me nervous in a 3-color deck. Or Underworld Connections?

3-4 mana if you're fighting that many opponents. That's pretty mana dependent. Either way, depending on what you're scared of, White, Black, and Red all have pretty strong board wipe options. Red's a little worse than W/B normally imo but a lot of them are really powerful.

>scourglass feels a little bad

Ugin is definitely better than coastal breach

The problem with coastal breach in my opinion is that you have no way of taking advantage of the wipe, it's sorcery speed, and it bounces all your mana rocks. Everybody is going to recover as fast or faster than you and you're going to have to discard your stuff

You already have rift and austere command and deluge and Nevs disk, I say that's plenty of board wipes, but if you insist on more, coastal breach is def not the answer, you want board wipes in which you can break the symmetry, a simple wrath of God would do you better

I mean I'm the one who suggested it to him and I agree it's not that good

It's fuckin sick with Kuldotha Forgemaster tho

necropotence is so much power that BBB is a fair restriction. put it in. even if you are only casting it late game, that's fine. It is strong enough to wait, or risk not being able to play it early on. Another triple black spell that is very good for draw is promise of power. if you go wide, shamanic revelation is a great spell. decree of pain is a great draw/wipe spell. Morbid curiosity can be okay, depending on your deck. if you are creature heavy duskwatch recruiter can net you a tonne of cards. erebos sticks around a long time, does a little more than draw, and will sometimes be a big booty attacker.

Not entirely circus-themed, but there are a few cards that look like things you might find AT the circus: Trinket Mage, Spawnbroker, Conjured Currency

Plus fun cards like Polymorphist's Jest and Switcheroo

There'll probably be a flying sub-theme, so I'm considering Skygames, Stratus Dancer, Favorable Winds, Sprite Noble, Archetype of Imagination, and Talrand

I opened a Rings of Brighthearth invention when do I sell?

I'm no expert but I think the longer you hold onto it the more it will be worth, because the card isn't ever going to be reprinted in that form

However, demand for the card isn't extremely high so the price could stay about the same, in which case you gain nothing by holding onto it

I'd probably just sell it now and kick yourself in a year when it's worth $10 more

Favourite commander is Momir vig. the fucking bullshit you could just pull out of nowhere with that fucker was insane. Kinda got nerfed after the prophet of kruphix ban though, so I switched over to Brago

Wait I overestimated how much the card was actually worth

Says it's selling for $42 on tcg player, which means if you sell it, it will only get you like $25 maximum

The normal rings of brighthearth was steadily rising before the invention came or so I think you should hold onto it

Sell now, the amount of time youll have to invest for it to rise is just not worth it at all.

Yeah momir vig was really good with prophet, still awesome though

the fact that you can only crack during your upkeep really hurts it. nev disk fills that slot up, but can be cracked at any time after untap, which increases it's viability. hedron network gets in over scourglass because it has an immediate effect, costs one less, and no colours are required. I have a foil one sitting around, but I don't want to use it because it is a little bit too weak.

good advice. I think I might just take out coastal breach. need to remove one more thing, now. probably mirrorworks, but the idea of having token artifact lands arouses me

I'd ebay it, probably make 35~.

I think capitalizing on while its hot is a good idea

Favorite general has to be Experiment Kraj, the ability to just "oh, that's it, I win" with 3 players things is great. God forbid someone is playing necrotic ooze.

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/breya-grave-combos/

alright, I've got a list ready, i think. tell me what you all think

Thanks, I guess I'll stick the Necropotence in then.

He is pretty hilarious with assault suit.

How is Aligned Hedron Network working out for you?

I'd probably drop Voyager Staff, Fortuitous Find, and Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient. Here's my Breya which has been working pretty well, if you're interested.
tappedout.net/mtg-decks/etherium-mastery/

>Who is your favorite commander and explain why?
Kruphix, because sitting back and charging your mana before unleashing a torrent of powerful spells has always felt fun to me.

>Alternatively, what's the worst commander deck you've ever built?
Worst in terms of the deck I enjoyed the least was definitely Stasis Derevi. In terms of least powerful, probably Alesha. That deck felt almost impossible to win a 4 man pod with.

Does anyone have feedback for my Oona list? I'm trying to focus it a little, since right now it feels a bit like a jack of all trades.
tappedout.net/mtg-decks/oona-the-empress/

You should try popping six Shadowborns into an Overseer of the Damned with a Grave Pact effect active. Feels good man.

>worst commander deck was newzuri

Yeah, I hate drawing half my deck and taking out all my opponents in one turn.

Borborygmos Enraged.

At first my group made fun of it because they thought it was just a dumb beaters deck.

I've gotten kills by drawing my deck through snake umbra + knoll spine dragon.

>the card isn't ever going to be reprinted in that form
Standard showdown started yesterday. The nonsense packs have 1/33 chance for a masterpiece or something like that.
wotcahs is hecking with all the speculators these days.

haven't tried the network yet, i haven't played with the brew yet, only tried her deck without any changes. The list is going to be going up against the other precon commanders . It is anti-atraxa (because atraxa will likely be larger than a 4/4), anti-ydris, and anti-saskia, (as this player is likely going to put in equipments to make saskia larger). fortuitous find can grab a whole combo (displacer, altar) at once, as well as just being generally good value. voyager staff is again, a surprsingly versatile card that works really well with salvaging station. kurkesh is also being tried out.
fuller list here: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/breya-grave-combos/
your list is pretty nasty, I would like to try a lot of that out. maybe not spy network, but a lot of it.

>Fave commander
Pic related, every junk common or uncommon I cast in this deck elicits a "that's fucking bullshit" from my friends.

>tappedout.net/mtg-decks/breya-grave-combos/
Try out Marionette Master. It can replace Breya in Displacer/Deathmantle combos, get more gas for Breya, or even make Breya's ability burn a player for 11 instead of 3.

My first, and favorite commander. Nothing fancy, none of this voltron bs. Just a angel tribal deck with ramp, removal, and fatties. It is my Timmy deck.

This is my Johnny commander. I have squeezed as many combos as possible into this deck. All of them require three cards to pull off a instant kill. I avoided easy combos like Food Chain to make the deck less spikeish.

>tfw comboing myr Battlesphere, Nim death mantle and time sieve

This deck is rad

my friend found this guy to be pretty rude in general, let alone with doran

I love how Doran enables white to be fun. 2 drop flier with buttbreathing? Sign me up!

Real men use this and Chaotic Strike with a board full of goblins to win out of nowhere with Chance Encounter.

That's actually a bit slow for my deck. I'm always dropping Doran T3 unless I don't have my colors yet. I have 5 or 6 1 drops (a few "3/3"s w/utility and a few vanilla "4/4"s) a couple two drops like and other buttbreathers, so by T4 I already have 10+ damage in

In a 1v1 my opponent is toast by T4 if pic related sticks

>Who is your favorite commander and explain why?
Pic related. I got the precon a few months after C13 came out (my release day pick was Oloro) and I ended up turning it into a straight up death machine. Nothing beats immediately ending a big game on the spot with a token horde, Druids' Repository, Mirror Entity, and Insurrection. Sword of Kaldra is also a riot on him.

>What's the worst commander deck you've ever built?
I got into EDH about when RTR came out and I hadn't been playing for more than a few months then, so some of my early efforts were pretty garbage. Worst thing I ever built with experience playing was probably a Nicol Bolas deck that, long story short, was just an elaborate, poor excuse to buy a FTV Bolas.

Tooth and Nail in Xenagod. 'Nuf said.

ooft, that fucker with cathars crusade.

Favorite Commander? Definitely Xenagos, God of Revels. Beating ass with plus-size beaters is just the best.

Worst Commander? Borborygmos. I built it as a Gruul Theme deck and it was just bad. It eventually became Xenagos.

Is Meren a fun commander? I want a cool BG/Golgari Commander, and I've narrowed it down to: Meren, Mazirek or Skullbriar.

- Mazirek looks degenerate as fuck, since it has a thousand different ways to go infinite, and will probably either get killed on sight or win the game though some combo.

- Skullbriar looks a little dull, and will either force me to focus on some Voltron strategy, which isn't very fun or interesting in a multiplayer environment, or never be cast.

- Meren looks fun, if a little slow, but seems to be very fragile to graveyard hate.

Funny thing is I got nothing on my Showdown pack but a Mana Vault in my regular booster. I'll keep it for EDH, it'll likely hold value should I ever choose to get rid of it.

meren has the broadest range of what it wants to do. you can take any number of strats with it, where as mazirek lends to combo and skullbriar to coltron like you've said. Nath is a fun bg deck, as is glissa. jarad is stupidly powerful and will ensure games rarely go past t9-t10, even in powerful metas.

Do you still use him in your Xenagos deck though? He seems useful.

Brion. And of course, this guy wins out of nowhere:
>Serra Avatar fling-ding when down to 1v1
>Threaten their biggest dude and kill
>Mother fucking Sneak Attack.

Had this deck since 2008. By no means competitive, but competent enough to have card advantage most of the time now and never run out of gas thanks to new card draw love for Red.

I do, actually. Many would probably argue that I could be running better, but he's one of my favorite cards ever for sentimental reasons.

Do you have a list of Jarad? I've never really paid much attention to him.

not him but borborygmos doesn't really work well in a xenagos deck

in a typical xenagos game, you'll put xenagos down and hope then a big fatty that immediately does something substantial the turn he comes out, and then most likely that fatty won't survive a single turn. getting counters with borbor will rarely be useful

xenagos doesn't play well with a wide strategy anyway. you usually want to avoid 7 devotion

>They have Necrotic Ooze
>You are running Triskelion and Phyrexian Devourer

Assimilate and eliminate.

What commander screams Princess Mononoke the most?

I was thinking Saskia is pretty good for that.

i have a list from over 2 years ago that is far too slow and unrefined so i will not show. but you can do a neat zombie deck, or just find cheap fatties to sac to jarad.

>Sword of Kaldra
You do know that Basilisk Collar does a lot more for a lot less mana, right?

Tolsimir Wolfblood?

Pretty sure Marath was just ripped directly off the elder forest spirit from Princess Mononoke.

Huh. I don't think I had ever payed any attention Jarad. Could be a fun Commander: gets bigger as the game goes by, even if you don't focus on it, and can blow the game wide open if people forget about his activated ability.

Iname as One directly reflects the death-life theme to the Forest Spirit but there aren't really any accurate analogies to San, Ashitaka, Eboshi, etc.

What's some spicy tech for a Sakashima clone/copy deck? Stuff like Willbreaker/any clone creature/clone spell. I want some spicy, spicy tech.

puca's mischief. Put the ability on the stack, take a thing, get sakashima back at EOT

>tfw won every game last time my group got together
It wasn't even fun at some point.

I had deadeye navigator + mystic snake out at one point. Everyone just sighed

>UGx

you're doing this to yourself

it was Momir vig, also had teferi + knowledge pool in it

Worst != Bad

I have a $400 budget for a new deck. I don't have a requirements, aside from it being very fun and hopefully somewhat unique, and not super casual or durdley.

Suggestions?

well, what do you already have?

how the fuck do i build nu-grenzo

is this list good? i'd test it out on xmage but the conspiracy 2 cards never got added to xmage for some reason so i can't.

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/27-11-16-cry-havoc/

obviously i don't expect it to be any better than a typical mono-red deck but can anyone with experience with the commander tell me i'm making a mistake?

This seems neat, but how does it work exactly? Is it
>Upkeep, choose Sakashima and something I want of an opponents.
>While it's on the stack, bounce Sakashima to my hand and just get what they had
Or am I missing something?

nothing beyond typical staple mana rocks and some lands. my collection is small. mostly looking for suggestions on commanders/archetypes. I cant find modify it to suit my budget on my own.

I meant more in terms of dekcs you already have

To avoid repeats

ah, makes sense. my mistake. Flip lily discard, crosis control/discard, talrand, newzuri, surrak RUG goodstuff, shu yun one punch, and New Sigarda tokens.

I've heard Arjun can be fun.

lily list pls, i was toying with one but it looked bad, how well do you feel yours runs?

>Who is your favorite commander and explain why?

Right now I have four decks. Niv-Mizzet, The Firemind. Molimo, Maro Sorceror. Zada, Hedron Grinder. Sliver Overlord. I'm working on a "tax" deck with Kambal, Consul of Allocation.

Out of all my decks, Niv-Mizzet has to be my favorite Commander. I don't use the instant-win Curiosity combo, so it's always a matter of maximizing the damage from my draws, instead. It's been a lot of fun. I do have the Peregrine Drake, Deadeye Navigator for infinite mana combo, but I've never gotten it off. My dream win is to get that combo, then kill the whole table at once with a copied Blue Sun's Zenith.

No idea about Commander, but you NEED this guy in the 99.

>tfw bought a mana crypt today

Holy shit guys. It's beautiful.

Mine wins in my meta quite consistently, but I'm still convinced it's a bad deck. Seems like consistent discard is enough of a tempo hit to help even messy decks win. Here it is anyway. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/e-v-i-l-w-o-m-a-n/

You bastard

...

Why am I a bastard? My meta is super competitive and I love to make my own decks even more powerful. Grim Monolith and FoW are next

kira pls

>work a bunch of OT and have some money to blow
>buy a EMA Mana Crypt from tcgplayer
>$63ish (I think it's a bit cheaper now though)
>they send me a foil
Absolute based

>tutor on your commander
real fun and creative dood

dismiss into dream

steal everything, vampires, B goodstuff

>Best Commander
The Gitrog Monster. I started out playing Golgari with pre-built Meren and have just loved the color combo ever since. Gitrog is just great card draw and ramp into powerful creatures or combo wins. I've won as fast as turn 3 with the deck I have rn.

>Worst Commander
Noyan Dar, Roil Shaper. I tried building him earlier this year. It's nice if you have all the mana rocks ever printed but other than that it's kind of a boring and slow commander.