Which mtg colors would hitler be?

Make it all creatures are 1/1 infect and the abilities affect all players.

Still broken but in an interesting way.

Red/Black.

Red because muh blitzkrieg, big fatty weapons, etc...

Black because muh deathcamps, gestapo, etc...

How much damage would this tap for?

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White.

Obviously.

jesus christ

He believed in the rule of the stronger. He didn't believe that you could share the world peacefully. He didn't believe that the well-being of the individual and the nation as a whole need to be balanced on a case-by-case basis. He subordinated the needs of the individual.

tl;dr=he was a complete douche

So, BG?

The gustav would probably do more damage than that

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That seems like shit.

The only thing salvageable from this is the sac ability.

Sticking Phyrexian mana on everything doesn't make it good.

Mardu.
>red
Powerful emotional speechmaker who gets everyone so riled up that little Germany thinks they can take on the rest of the world.
>white
Authoritarian, toltalitarian, traditional
>black
While he acts for the sake of others, his nation is a black actor, in that it is consciously maximally self-serving.

Being a powerful speechmaker doesn't make HIM red, as he manipulates. I would say Abzan instead because of G: Strong rules, Concept of Racial supperiority and caring for animals

WB is very much the mindset of my "Insert group here" will rise above the others no matter the cost. Magneto, ironically, is WB, Al-Capone style gangs and the mafia are WB. When put on a country level, you get the people that would rape, pillage, and burn their neighbors to make their capitals great. Since the Nazi war machine relied on taking the wealth of other European nations and using it to feed the war machine, WB is a great fit.

Being a charismatic speaker doesn't make one red. If he did everything by following his guy emotions then he'd be red.

I agree with He's Abzan. One thing to note with Hitler is that like Trump and I'm not starting a political fight here so chill the fuck out, the focus was on "make [country] great again!" That's an appeal to tradition, an appeal to the past. He saw the changing world and didn't like it. That's a green sentiment, as is the idea that his group of choice, the aryans, should naturally rule for they are naturally the superior race. This kind of predeterminism is very green.

Supreme post

Well, what should he even do? I think your color choices are right.

Or you know, you could not be "That Guy" user.

For once in your shitty shitty life you could turn away and not be "That Guy"

Focus on the war machine, where Life is wealth, and creatures are your big tank tactics:
"When creatures you control deal combat damage to your opponent, gain that much life.

Pay 1 Life, G: Target creature you control gains Trample until end of turn."

Pay 2 Life, Sacrifice a creature, WB: Creatures you control gain +X/+X until end of turn where X is that creature's toughness."

That sacrifice-clause is a bit too steep for its effect and the card itself is too much like pic related IMO

It's like what that card should have been because partner is weak as fuck

The sacrifice clause is fine because you're playing Black/Green/White so your shit is only temporarily in the graveyard anyway.

Besides, it's a repeatable overrun type effect with the only cost being you have to pick what tramples over.

I think it's the style of his rhetoric reveals a personality that is very red. The ability to channel passion. Also it fits the nazi armband and flag perfectly.

I don't like the green because green has a lot of harmony and balance symbolism that seems to fly in the face of an ideology based on borders. Also it's not as intimidating if it looks like this.

Problem is; Mardu contains BR and so also contains hedonism/degenercy, a thing Hitler was very against IIRC.

I don't know, I'd be terrified by a bunch of dudes in nazi uniforms wearing "radiation green" armbands.

Normal Nazis are bad enough, I don't need to be dealing with "radioactive nazis"

That said, his speech style is passionate, but that doesn't really mean much. Batman works to instill Mono-B levels of terror in his prey/criminals, but his motivations and personality make him completely WU, according to Maro.

So he may give off passionate speeches that inspire passion and fires up/enrage the masses, but passions to follow your emotions and a freedom to do whatever you want were not his goals. None of his goals were red. They were however, very G.
Green does have a stint of harmony and balance, but harmony is one of those things that a person decides on. He decided harmony was everyone knowing their place:
>Aryans
>Other Whites
>Asians
>The other fuckers.
So long as everyone understood where they were, and the undesirables, like the jews and friends were purged, Germany would have perfect harmony. A perfect german society. That's harmony as far as he was concerned.
Typically when you look at three colors, the "enemy" combo of the central color is ignored/weak.
For instance, Bant is clearly WG+WU, with a distinct lack of UG
Even the Tarkir clans followed this pattern as RW+RB with a distinct lack of WB sentiments.

Romanian facists did the green thing, actually

BOROS
Nazism is Mono White

While some forms of totalitarianisms are white, Facism is black. Pretty sure the society he created and led was mono-black. youtu.be/l14WDZCnz-w?t=5m38s

I don't know enough about the jerk to know if he has any additional colors, but I doubt it.

Black is anarchy or libertarian.
There's no unity or group in mono black.
And there's no' I' in mono white.
Facism is extreme leftism, all you do should serve the group "nation".

White is fascism, order, law, authority, security, peace and unity.

White with Blue eyes.

>Facism is extreme leftism, all you do should serve the group "nation".
Well that's a new one.

Yes I have no idea why people call nazism extreme right.
The right is about the individuals freedom.
The extreme right should logically then be anarchy, not less freedom.

First answer to the question, best answer

Don't forget that political views don't form a line, but a circle
Extreme right and extreme left get closer the more extreme they become

That is not a trait traditionally associated with the right in the conventional political spectrum.

(3), T: ~ deals 9 damage to a creature directly in front of ~'s card and 4 damage to that card's controller.
(1), T: You may move ~ to a new position on the battlefield.

I don't think this work in MTG, since you don't have individual card zones, like in YuGiOh

Stick it in an un-set, it'll work out.

I'd make him Esper since he became chief of the state. Plus he led their mobilization economically and industrially.

Kek pretty much

At it's fundemental core

The right is against the group, or just 'selfishness' (I don't believe that's a bad thing.)

And the left is against the I. Everythign you do should benefit society aka "the group".

Then you have... north?
Where tradition and sameness is all that matters.
And... South.
Only the individual can say what is what, cause that's the only thing we/you know actually exist.

It will probably
But in the un-sets, the cards that cared about position were (torn and) thrown in the air then asked to look were they landed for their effect

>right is about personal freedom

From what bizzaro world are you from?

Let's hope nobody brings out Sidar Kondo in that case

Freedom as in no one ruling over you or deciding what you can and can't do, and as in you decide your life.

That is the fundemental core of "the right" aka libertarianism.

Is this too powerful? I need to print it soon. Edh night is this Thursday and I need to have my deck ready. Also I don't think this will be a big deal, there is only like 2 Jewish guys at my legs and only 1 black but I don't sit with them.
Anyone have feedback?

1WBR

Haste
When Hitler comes into play, choose a color.
Whenever a creature of the chosen color dies, put a Gas Counter on Hitler.
Creatures of the chosen color you don't control get -1/-1 for every Gas Counter on Hitler

3/4

We just went over this. You get Mardu when the goal of "The Order" is unlimited personal freedom to follow your ambitions.
Hitler, and the Nazis weren't red at all.

See, what you guys fail to understand is that "right vs left" isn't all encompassing. Social freedom and economic freedom are separate things.
Nazi's are socially right, in that there's a proper way to behave and that anything else is degenerate and needs to be purged via gas chamber which is what most people care about. They are economically left though, in that the system knows where you should work, so listen to the system.

Or to put it in simpler terms, the Nazis are somewhere near the top-left corner on this

They were for themselves though

Not really, had it right.

counter point : if you have to explain his color pie, you're just going to start a debate/argument at the table

Well obviously, which is why we're doing it right here instead.

Yes, but OP's playgroup isn't in this thread, so nothing is being accomplished in that regard

>That is the fundemental core of "the right" aka libertarianism.
Libertarianism is cuck tier memery.

>Or to put it in simpler terms, the Nazis are somewhere near the top-left corner on this
They're pretty much right on the axis near the top; there were private businesses in Nazionale Germany.

to derail the thread even further into irrelevant political theory, the 2-axis grid isn't really a useful metaphor. For example, a lot of left theorists would say that social and economic freedoms are indissociable. They would argue that libertarian social policies would only afford freedoms to the wealthy and economically secure, and the libertarians's disfavour for employment regulation would mean many people would be stuck in degrading and draconian social situations in the name of a freer employment market. To say the way people live their social life is separate from the way people produce value and are employed is already an ideological move.

At the top, near the middle of the top-right box. They WERE the national socialist party for a reason.
Besides, didn't those companies produce exactly what the Nazi's told them to produce?

We're helping OP design a Hitler card, so Hitler's going to be in the right colors when we design him. OP's not going to discuss it with his table, but we are.

Black for purity, white for poison.

He is mostly White and Red, but has traits from all the colors, depending on your point of view.

White because ein Volk, ein Reich. Brotherhood and unity through a lawful society.

Blue because he promoted science and research, and advancement of society through superior technology.

Black because he was a dictator figure and promoted his country's and his people's interests before the others.

Red because he was an artist and he knew how to work the crowd. If you read Mein Kampf, you know he was very passionate about his cause.

Green because nazism is in its basis a manifestation of the natural law. There is an entire doctrine about fulfilling the destiny of the Aryan people, which is very green.

The gas chambers were a hoax desu.

also, Marxist historians diagnosed Naziism as the last recourse of the haute bourgeoisie business owners in the face of increasing worker consciousness, a way to focus people on an abstract idea of the nation rather than an actual situation of international class oppression. But conservatives like Hayek saw Nazi Germany as the logic of collectivism and central planning taken to its inevitable conclusion. So there's no neutral, non-ideological way of diagnosing someone else's ideological position.

Typically you need an outside observation.

His only gas involvment was approving the idea. He had nothing to do with concept or execution.

His only powers were charisma, showmanship, and doing a fuckload of coke and meth.

His speeches really weren't all that powerful. It was more the inflection, and speaking to the commoner. He used simple words and logical fallacies, but did so with rising volume and inflection. It wasn't the quality of what he said that swayed people, but more the manner in which he said it. He was basically what happens when you max out your ranks in cheerleader, and treat every other stat as a dump-stat.

Everyone has traits of all colors, especially in real life. What matters when deciding the colors is the core of his logic.
Everyone has passion, but that doesn't make everyone red. Everyone can say science is good, but unless science is the motivation for everything they do, they're not blue.

It's about looking at primaries.

>His only powers were charisma, showmanship, and doing a fuckload of coke and meth.
Lvl 99 Used Car Salesman.

Nazism is inherently Selesnyan, so I'd classify Hitler as W/G with his primary motivation the well-being of his people and living in accord with the natural order.