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First for Chaos

2nd for fluffy lists
>Minotaur Dred is 225

Second for Cadia is A-ok

Even the thread knows that its not

Anons, how much script is too much script when doing Word Bearers?

Like, what if I wanted to have script all over the armor plates of a Maulerfiend? And I mean all over it. Not just a few lines here and there, but enough to look like someone was able to write a book on it, y'know?

If your script looks decent (attempt for pic related)

Then it can look good but if its splodgy thick random lines then it can look shit.

I painted my first model. I feel sorry for the guy
Any advice?

Why oh fucking why do op's keep using this fucking shit image. Get over yourselves and use some proper 40k images there's 30 fucking years of images and you keep using this wank!!

Best advice is to just keep at it. You'll improve as you do it. Just focus on the basics at first, don't worry about fancy techniques.

I like user

Looks fluffy and fun.

Basecoat your damn models a solid black, white or grey instead of just slapping colours on. I can tell you didn't. It's very noticeable.

Beyond that, the usual "make sure you put a little water in your paint, then colour, shade with a wash, edge highlight a brighter shade of the initial colour" advice.

Well, I'm definitely no 'Eavy Metal painter, but I'd love to be able to do that.

What I was thinking was something along the lines of what Duncan did on the Word Bearer's knee.

My biggest problem are the eyes-the second model looks like it has some black-white splurge on the eyeholes. What can I do with that?

Now that we've had Tzaanuary, dare we hope for Slaarch? Nurvember?

gonna repost this list that i threw together.

Is did prime it with grey...

do as lord Duncan says and thin your paints. two thin coats is better than a thick one.

right, just make it pop I suppose and don't go overboard.

One of the other things is keep it to scale as well, bare in mind how big the writing is vs the size of the models, their hands and how big the text would be.

Don't paint the eyes until you've been painting for years, you'll ruin every model you paint by giving them random splodges of white and dollops of black in the center. Games Workshop doesn't advocate eye painting unless you are an expert.

I wouldn't bother with painting eyes until you feel more confident in your painting.

Here's some tips on how to do eyes.


Don't. 40k models, and well, most models in general are too small for eyes to be appreciably noticeable.

Remember that 'Eavy Metal painters are not human, and are painting Daemons.

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Guess you are right

hey im a fellow bearer of the word and im wondering what colour you are going to paint the pauldrons. ive been painting mine red for years but im thinking of switching to black.

#ArmlessTheHarmless

I'm going to do black, mostly to break up all the red and because I think it looks nice. Might have black helms and/or chests on my sergeants/leaders.

First alpha legion marine

Thanks to user for posting the tutorial for the armour

th-thanks
still upwards of £300 quid tho

now you just need to paint the scale design

veru nice-u

Don't paint eyes. I've been painting Orks since 2007 and never once have I painted eyes. Eyes are something which, when done badly, are really, really obvious. Simple washes will suffice for eyes on 99% of models that aren't Space Marines.

>£300 quid

Well m8, I hope you really enjoy that hit of crack.

I've just dropped that on an AoS army, so this might be a project for later in the year

After all there could be a huge shakeup with this End Time business

Fuck that

>see stormhawk
>Decide to read about it
>grimace and go to 1d4chan
>remember why the site is shit
>try another site bitching about how dare SMs have competent flight corps and escorts for their thunderhawks
So can you lot tell me about this new flyer? And apparently how the rules have changed for flyers?

its not that hard

that looks great

>1d4chan is shit
Explain this meme

Yeah there was a flyer update but personally I have never met a person in my meta that wanted to play it (extraneous rules/rolling mostly)

> rerollable jink save on an already decently armoured flying platform
> its cost effective


> its space marines, its what a really vanilla anti-air fighter should be

People expect less meme from their meme wikia? I do not know honestly.

Their tactics are very theoryhammer and it shows.

Forgot to mention its objectively better than a dakkajet
> inb4 what isnt

The tactics pages are written and moderated by autists who shill literally every option their faction can take, who base their tactics entirely on theorycraft without properly theorycrafting most of the time.

Their actual articles are full of memes the majority of which are literally 5+ years old, which makes Veeky Forums look even more like a shitty joke than the site actually is. 1d4 STILL maintains its Matt Ward article and enforces the Ward meme, for example, and is probably directly responsible for the normies in the fanbase who still shit on him.

The memes and personal opinion get in the way of just telling me the hard facts about what I'm reading about, and the jokes are tryhard, inorganic.
1d4 said something like a flyer can't shoot at the ground and at aerial targets now?
But yeah, 150, good weapon loadout, still fragile as hell, it looks to be a counterpart to Eldar superiority flyers.

Have you watch any how to paint videos? Copy them exactly until you get a feel for it.

>Mfw i completely forgot there was a flyer update
I guess no one using it really made it not leave an imprint.

Is he a Slaaneshi daemon of miniature painting?

I'm so goddamn wary of buying any Guard stuff as I'm convinced there will be new Guard plastics soon (after Cadia)

Something with greatcoats would be great

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I've got the idea for my 500pts of guard on them and its pretty solid.

Very nice. You out my own (non-chaos style) to shame. I especially like the slight shade of green on the metal armour

More like a mortal champion of Slaanesh. There was a time when there was no perfection.

I've been putting off buying the AdMec Codices for months now because we might get 8e, IA and possibly a combined codex soon. It's a real pain and I've been mostly getting around by using the "test reading" copies of the codices my shop has lying around.

What's your list?

In the process of painting these for my Genestealer cult, I've decided to branch out into a Guard subforce, maybe starting at 500 and moving to 1k and so on.

Just 'buy' the epub from the link at the top of the thread. I heard its so cheap it's as if it's free!

That helps for private games but not exactly for in the store.

What do you people think of Orks as slav?

Quad squiggoth user reporting back after versing a list tailoring cunt expecting me to play my normal green tide:
> His list was a bunch of wyverns (3), pask punisher and a normal punisher, rest was all guardsmen and heavy weapons teams with autocannons
> DID I MENTION HE BROUGHT YARRICK TO GET PREFERRED ENEMY
> his face when I told him my entire army on the board was t7/8 and his preferred enemy did sweet fuck all
> punishers managed to get 5 wounds off a big squiggoth the whole game


> Do I even need to go into more information

Got through another Kill Team mission. My opponent and I were both rolling our Veteran Teams which are monsters.

There was a strange coincidence though. We both decided to push our main infantry up the middle through cover with one or two Specials going with them. We were in each others faces before either of us took any casualties.
I grabbed some pics of the before, but got so caught up in the game that I forgot to take afters. The thing most worthy of mentioning is my opponents Cultist Champion survived 2 Hot-Las shots and a round of melee before quickly and efficiently putting my storm trooper 6 foot under.

Pic 1/4
Here, you can see

Just put it on your phone. Most people assume it's a legit digital version of the codex (which it is).

Why not? It's an epub

I did, but I did some other things, most notably a red pauldron, because thats my regiments sign. I have a cheesy backstory to it

>math is bad and meak my brain go auw auw , my conscrip can kill abbadon xddd
what rock do you fucking shitheads keep crawling underneath from ?
you're the kind of person that takes a laser destroyer over quad lascannons aren't you ?

Pic 2/4

Sure go ahead. Give out full report how the battle went.

If I want pol shit shit I will go to pol and get covered in its shit

Pic 3/4

hey, i have some problems with choosing the right army two weeks ago i bought some necron stuff and played them. they are fucking boring i dont like them at all now im looking for an alternative. i love the paint scheme of the imperial fists and the close combat, psyker style of the grey knights. im really into the fluff of the deathwatch i would love to play a imperial knight with the new army is there a way to combine all this things?

Well done user

>my conscrip can kill abbadon xddd
There are worse ways to deal with Abby than rank firing 50 Prescienced lasguns at him.

And Pic 4/4 with the above mentioned Champion.
Fun times.

I actually want more information of how you Squig-stomped him.

nice to see you fuck over a guy who list tailors against orks
surprised a rending punisher only managed 5 wounds all game though

Belisarius Cawl and all FoC/Triumvirate Formation rules when?

I need muh leaks.

Its a CCS and 2 vets with 2 meltas each in chimeras. It works well agianst orks and spesh mahreens

Holy crap, I never realized that you'd save just about $15 with this bundle, and since it's $60 that means free shipping.

Of course, CSM termis still suck, but at least they're cool.

Nothing yet. Probably 2-3 days before we get any leaks.

Whiteroom theory has it's place, user, but it doesn't account for a lot of variables you see on the table, on top of a lot of the advice being outdated.
I'll field this.
user, no one is going to respond to you because your sentence looks like shit. If you are going to ask for help, at least do the courtesy of typing like you have a semblance of grammar so it can be read.

I remember you from about a week ago from the Kill Team thread. I played your Senior Force Commander and cleared house with him, thanks for the stats and cost. Nice table by the way.

This is all I know of (aside from WD and whatever may have leaked here)
youtube.com/watch?v=W1uiPe3FfuA&t=0s

Why is it that they leak the whole story but not the rules?

Whole story? Kinda lacks big pieces of information.

And they do leak rules every now and then. They just didnt this time.

Ah yeah I remember you too! I'm glad he helped user, definitely a force to be reckoned with!

Is there a canon Poland in Space?

I had some days off work and took some painting oaths to dig into my deathwatch. Here's my weeks progress. Post projects.

I'm not but could you give the stats here? I wouldn't mind playing a guard kill team. Is it GW or HoR?

I see. I tried to avoid story leaks, but It appeared to me that everything was already leaked. That's why I was wondering.

what variables ?
sure you can roll extraordinarily bad and if that happens it's Rng's fault that your plan falls apart
If you continue to hinge your strategy on 50% success rates or lower you're going to get a few stunning victories but mostly you'll lose

Sure thing user, it's a HoR Kill Team. You may need to either build him up over time, or earn some renown and then buy him flat out.

WS5 BS4 S3 T3 W2 I3 A3 LD9 SV+4 (re-roll failed saves for Antarax Pattern Armour)

Senior Force Commander:
-Antarax Pattern Carapace Armour (4+/Re-roll if failed.)
-Plasma Pistol
-Power Sword
-Stealth
-12" S4, AP6, Twin Linked, Strikedown Shotgun
-Bionic Eye (Re-roll 1's in shooting and Overwatch.)
-Stubborn
-WS+1

For everything I listed, he will cost 60 Requisition Points plus another 2 Requisition Points because he's a Krieger.

The ending was leaked from iTunes previews. But it still lacks quite big things how things happened.

Pricey, but he's pretty beefy. Cheers dude

Fuck alright, good thing I wrote some of this down
> Rolled for FnP on two of my Big squiggoths, my third has a KFF in it, Gargantuan squiggoth had MFF in it
>Turn 1
> Just move that shit up senpai
> 1 Supa-Lobba manage to scatter onto some wyverns and fucking destroys ones launchers, other one is immobilised
> Kannons on big squiggoths open up and all miss
> Le ork sniper meme
> He retaliates by fully committing to the Gargantuan squiggoth
> everything wounds it on 6s except autocannons on 5s, and even then I get my invuln and a fnp save, cop 2 wounds on my big boi
>Turn 2
> Gargantuan squiggoth delivers 10 man ork squad to die in glorious melee against a guard blob
> Gargant kills enough of the guardsman with Supa Lobbas to expose Yarrick
> Big Squiggoths lumber up the field like the shitty paper weights they want to be
> Gargant destroys punisher (not pask) with 7 s10 ap2 attacks
> Pask opens up on gargant
> actually does shit this turn, 3 wounds on the big squiggoth with the KFF from just him
> fucking bless the bastard for putting his heavy weapons with his blob
> wyverns try to take some pot shots at the same squiggoth
> fucking gets two wounds and the Squiggoth loves it
> Turn 3
> Dude realises how fucked he is
> Big squiggoths hit the lines along with 20 more boyz that charge the other blob
> kannons manage to do sweet fuckall again
> Gargant krumps Pask in glorious melee
> Big squiggoths roll well on stomp and remove Yarrick from play
> Come back to life now you old fuck
> Guardsmen lose combat badly and get over run by sweet, sweet I2
> All thats left is 2 wyverns, one which is immobilised and one that has one launcher broken

> Dude just starts packing up his shit and trying to hide his sweet, cheesy tears
> MFW I finally beat him bad enough that he doesn't want to play me again and now complains about orks being op


Im not sure I can go back to playing a green tide anymore desu
Btw I did the maths and he actually rolled well considering

We basically stopped playing our HoR-campaing after me and my allied buddy rolled White Scars biker lists. WS-bikers are so damn powerful in HoR its not even funny.

i know, my english is not the best

Cadia's spirit shall live on on the hearts of its defenders.

Happy to help!

My friends and I more or less stopped playing anything with a 3+ in general. There's so much more fun to be had when you're pulling off insane shit and men are dropping like flies. AP3 is the new god and you'll actually want to throw hand grenades now. Two matches ago, I had a storm trooper take a diving charge off an overhang and wipe out my opponents champion.
Space Marines just get boring after a while.

Though there are obvious signs of excess.

So wait Cadia is kill for real this time?

Good job on destroying that guy's face. Would actually kind of struggle myself with getting over a wall of Squiggoths myself and don't immediately know of a good reaction against that much high toughness. Though I guess Grav-Spam is always an option.

It doesn't put in for cover, positioning, most of the parts that account for generalship.
Numbers are a part of the equation, but that website treat it as the only part, or the only part that matters.

>3 wyverns
Pretty standard guard unit that wants any power in the list. Hell, some lists in ETC took AM allies for blob ob.sec units and wyverns only.
>Pask punisher
That's like go-to Pask take
>and normal punisher
Ok odd pick, then again with Punisher pask it's somewhat ok pick with all the "don't mix weapons" mantra going on and all
>rest was all guardsmen and heavy weapon teams with autocannons
That's like the standard thing with blobguard? With all heavy bolters I'd suppose that's really tailoring
>Yarrick to get pe
145p to keep all the guardsmen in line, from your text I assume there were plenty of them and Yarrick has the tools to keep them in line.

Sure his list had nothing to deal with av14 apart from Pask rending. Sounds pretty standard non-mech guard.

Yeah Abaddons 2nd attempt at his 13th Black Crusade is working.