How are you liking Spheres of Might, the Path of War replacement? What do you like/hate about its rules? What do you want to see from its new martials with non-combat utility? Does it make Vital Strike mandatory? Can it break us free from overPoWered? docs.google.com/document/d/1aLaYQEFAWU4zQBx58boJPPaySLgJc0Emmw9eKyIJeGI/
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Make a glorious all-powerful psychic character. As far as I can tell, they're great for things like illusions and trickery due to not having somatic and verbal components for their psychic spells.
Zachary Hill
>Spheres of Might >Path of War replacement >Vital Strike mandatory >break us free from overPoWered
Jack Torres
Can I get a list of the books that mention or provide content for Conference Z?
Andrew Phillips
Spheres of Might seems very interesting so far. It doesn't seem to make Vital Strike mandatory since the sniper sphere at least appears to have decent damage progression on its own, but it definitely makes Vital Strike a more attractive feat than it currently is. So far I'm already much more enthusiastic about it than I have been about PoW.
Gabriel Ramirez
An Asmodean Cleric or Hellknight (Or both!) attempting to bring law and order to an unordered region.
Adrian Thomas
Why must you bait, shitposter? It's not a replacement, it's practically its own system; Adam Meyers should just write his own game at this point.
Also, you're an idiot.
Joshua Smith
Serious question Veeky Forums: Just finished playing the "Wolf Among Us" and liked the concept of fairy tale creatures being among us in "real-life." >Would Pathfinder be a good fit for this? I know Pathfinder's distinct classes and abilities might warp things and delving into the realm of magic might be tricky... But is it possible?
Eli Sanders
>Would a high fantasy game work for a Masquerade setting. Yes, but there needs to be a very strong motivation to remain hidden.
Camden Wood
>Adam Meyers should just write his own game at this point He practically already has it seems like. With SoP and now SoM, all you'll need from Paizo is the core rules.
Andrew Morris
How does it make it mandatory?
Here's my house rules for vital strike:
>Any character with a BAB of +1 or greater receives the Vital Strike feat for free. The Improved and Greater Vital Strike feats are subsumed into Vital Strike. When making a Vital Strike attack, the feat instead gives the benefits below based on the BAB of the attacker:
>BAB + 1 = 1x base weapon dice + rider >BAB + 6 = 2x base weapon dice + rider >BAB +11 = 3x base weapon dice + rider >BAB +16 = 4x base weapon dice + rider >BAB +20 = 5x base weapon dice + rider
Valid Riders:
>Any combat manuever (eg. Trip. The attack roll used for the attack is also used for the combat maneuver check.). >Any (ex) feat or class ability possessed by the attacker that costs a standard or full-round action (eg. - Cleave, Dazzling Display). >Total Defense (Gaining +4 to AC, but the attacker no longer threatens enemies until next turn). >Aid Another (A successful hit replaces the DC 10 roll needed for Aid Another). >Elimination of a single minor, self-induced penalty from the attack (eg. Nonproficiency penalty, nonlethal damage penalty, power attack or combat expertise penalty).
A feat:
>Maximum Rider Power (Combat) >Prerequisites: +11 BAB >You may choose to gain no additional damage from Vital Strike, instead adding a second rider. You may use this second rider before, during, or after the execution and resolution of the first rider. Attacks granted by the second rider are made additionally to those of the first.
>For example, if a fighter uses Vital Strike to make a Spring Attack, the fighter can move and make a single attack, and the Whirlwind Attack feat can be used as a second rider at the beginning or end of movement, or at any place in between.
Grayson Cox
Well, do you intend for it to be a modern time period or not?
The thing is, Pathfinder is only really good at high fantasy. It CAN do low fantasy but is iffy on it and there's breaking points, but it outright can't do horror, is very bad at mystery, and anything more advanced than a crossbow is going to cause issues.
As such, I'd recommend finding a different game to roll with, but if you can't, then yes, Pathfinder can be jury-rigged for this concept.
Justin Butler
/pfg/ I'm trying to come up with character ideas for a Curse of the Crimson Throne campaign. Anyone got any thoughts? I get hardcore white-page syndrome.
Zachary Richardson
>How does it make it mandatory? I don't think it does make it mandatory, but the system seems to work off of combatants using the standard action attack action, which Vital Strike is compatible with, so Vital Strike looks a lot better on the SoM options than it does in core.
Lucas Ramirez
Are you a player or the GM?
Kayden King
An elf who is totally blown away at all the completely mundane tools and technology that the average peasant uses to survive.
Charles Walker
A con-artist on the run and looking to make a name for himself with a new identity!
Luke Evans
Player.
Joseph Gray
Patriotic Rostlander that aspires to be an Aldori Swordlord.
A lecherous bandit set on the straight and narrow for the better pay, prettier women and a chance to kill his old boss.
Bardic Noble bastard that started his journey wishing to write down the tale of the party before being whisked into leadership positions that forces him to kill the boy, and become the man.
Ian Ward
How much, if any, 3rd-party materials are allowed? It might be easier to think of a concept if you have an idea as to what subsystem you want to mess with; Bloodlines/Mysteries, Domains/Inquisitions, Combat Feats, Initiating, Manifesting, Arcane/Divine/Occult Spellcasting, etc.
Lucas Jenkins
Interesting point. Would you not consider fairy tale creatures to be high fantasy? They have certain immortalities/defenses/abilities.
Nathaniel Morris
So I have a stupid question. Does anybody know if there is a concrete rule on height in pathfinder? the tallest "possible" human using the rules I could find is 6'6". I myself am 6'9", and I know there are people taller/as tall as me. Conversely the shortest possible human is 4'7", I know children are shorter, but I have met people this short and shorter. also, after reading the bit on age/height/weight, apparently you can choose your age but height and weight aren't stated to be optional.
TLDR: do people really care if your characters are taller/shorter than what the rules permit?
Isaac James
As far as I know, the only real mechanic height/size has is determining what size categories a character/creature may have. Beyond that's it's purely aesthetic, like the size of a character's tits, or color of their hair.
Josiah Morgan
No one gives a fuck. But if you make an ubermensch 8 foot tall human other players will look at you like you're the piece of shit you are.
Evan Carter
A Tian on holiday whose poor language skills and misinterpretation of local customs get them dragged into the struggle to save the city despite their efforts to be friendly and avoid trouble.
Robert Gomez
Fairy tale creatures very often fit into incredibly binding laws and customs, things that don't always exist in Pathfinder. Once you get below 4 feet or above 8 feet you start to encounter problems with size categories, but other than that, no.
Josiah Nelson
oh! good point. I looked on the table for medium sized creatures size/reach and the range there for medium creatures is 4'-8'. I can agree with that. Thanks! ^_^
Sebastian Bailey
Think world of darkness would play out better? Or perhaps NPC classes with templates?
Colton Green
World of Darkness is designed around the concept, so yes. NPC classes with templates sounds miserable.
If you want to tough it out with Pathfinder you're either going to have to have very cooperative players or a lot of fiat so that your players don't just go around waving their magic swords.
Jose Evans
The infobroker who's memorized half the king's library and has been trying to steal the royal treasure
No, not the sword he knights people with, no knot the gem on the crown. The one that his great grandfather hid somewhere in the castle, swearing it to secrecy for as long as the Angel of Oncaath should survive.
Kevin Hernandez
>Spheres of Might >Kobolds >make them some kind of Sneak Attack class with the system, like an SoM Slayer >Grab Scale Foe, Unwilling Boost, Agile Manuevers, and something to help with either movement or AoO. >They come out of holes in wall, and jump on intruders, and start to stab them with poisoned or feces covered daggers >After a few stabs, they jump off and run for a barracade >Archers are sitting behind the barracade, and form firing lines to alternate shotting at invaders, using either Sniping Sphere and Covering Fire, or Overwatch Style >They rain heck on invaders, while the guys who ran grab either their own ranged weapons, or start tossing tanglefoot bags and splash weapons >Once the invaders get within 10 ft or so, they fall back, They trigger a Ceiling Spike trap. >If that fails, or if casualties sustained are too high, they will fall back, communicate to the next line of defense, and regroup with the other soldiers.
>This is only the initial defensive line, it gets more intense from here, as they start having more complex traps and caster support, and higher level Kobolds and tamed beasts
DARE YOU ENTER MY TRAPPED WARREN!?
Angel Green
'sup Veeky Forums, haven't stalked in a long while: has PoW (especially the Primal Fury discipline) been fixed yet? Any new Initiating archetypes for non-PoW classes?
I hope you all had tremendous festivities, I personally got back on the DMing horse and going through Kingmaker.
Daniel Martin
Seems legit.
Camden Bailey
Is there any method, in Paizo material or Dreamscarred Press material, of constantly (or near-constantly) shrouding oneself in dim light or darkness, without also shedding a wide radius of dim light or darkness?
The character is supposed to be 4th-level, but any Paizo or Dreamscarred Press class will do.
Jaxson Harris
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....HAH! Hoooooo..... No, no PoW errata has been released. That's just a fairy tale people talk about to try and keep faith in DSP alive.
They did take the time to tell the guy trying to homebrew errata on GitP to stop it, so that's whatever that is.
Ian James
And I just realized you wanted it for stealth purposes, so this doesn't work.
Dominic Smith
Not Dreamscarred, but the SoP Dark Sphere Handbook Playtest has Penumbra talents for that.
Eli Thompson
This would do nothing for the Shawl of Shadowy Disguise.
Spheres of Power is not an available source.
Jaxon Powell
>some random guy posts in my RotJR app asking to play my character Fucking what? Can someone explain this shit to me? Is this some kind of roll20 idiocy?
Logan Brooks
>Wolf Among Us
Use Nobilis or Chuubo. They fit the whole fairy-tale struggle of myths vibe much better.
Anthony Sullivan
Ha, you missed us talking about it briefly in the last thread. He's probably just not that smart user.
Ian Davis
Apparently someone thought it was some kind of casting call for a Pregen. Take it as a compliment, I guess.
Henry Parker
I think its just that person being an idiot and not understanding how applications work and/or too lazy to make their own character
Brody Lee
The kid thought the whole list of apps were premade characters for other players to play as. Take it easy on him pls
Henry Carter
Is the Critique user from a thread or two still around? I'm interested to see his take on some of the other applications for RotJR, since it's evident that he or she is quite good at giving constructive criticism and recognizing the flaws and strengths of a character.
Lucas Walker
>Take it as a compliment, I guess. I suppose. It's just kind of fucking weird at the same time.
Connor Allen
What's this RotRJ stuff I keep seeing?
Justin Wood
What's the best way to be good at fighting with ladders?
Samuel Cook
Rise of the Jade Regent-a campaign someone's running on Roll20. Starts off with the first book of Rise of the Runelords, then segues into the entirety of Jade Regent.
David Gray
Yo, Jolly, You still in here? I gots a question. Do you know how, if at all, SoM will interact with the Combat Stamina system? Also I know Adam in the Promo Video said the system will be able to be applied to most of the classes that currently exist, if so do you have any ide how that is going to work? Or is sharing that info currently verboten?
Christopher Rivera
What's that from, anyway? Was there an Utawarerumono sequel?
Angel Harris
Two, in fact
Gabriel Hughes
There was a prequel, but I havent seen it. The original was based on a VN, so maybe it's a sprite from that.
Jayden Hernandez
#hashtagwhyamIstillawake? As of the moment, there's not any real interaction; although the idea of possibly using it as another way to regain focus is a possibility.
Isaac Williams
So what was the thinking behind Focus anyway? What brought it about?
Chase Bell
It looks like that's Anju, a character from Itsuwari no Kamen, in the sequel game Futari no Hakuoro.
Aiden Morgan
Turns out Psionic Focus as a mechanic is pretty good, so rename it for martials works out well.
Makes me want to see a Psychic Warrior archetype using both Psionic and Martial focus.
We sort of wanted a 'resource' that wasn't going to be spell points. Things would be slightly too static without something like that, although really berserker (once we get to show it off) does some REALLY cool stuff with it.
For me, it's that hard pop to really send things off; I think it was my suggestion, but we're 4 people talking at once.
Psionic Focus was another inspiration since I like that mechanic. If we keep getting people who want the name changed though, we probably will.
Working on the 'street fighter' class now, it's gonna be hype.
God, I hope we get my LG artist on this project...heart eyes...
Nicholas Johnson
I presume it was intended as some kind of limiting factor, but we already have Stamina.
Easton Hernandez
>Red Love That's not a breastplate she's wearing.
Adam Brooks
Yeah, it would kinda make more sense to at least reuse the Stamina pool.
Cooper Baker
Are you looking for an artist?
John Murphy
Nah, it's a symbiote.
It's hard to say for that myself since I'm not the lead, but I like getting my pocket artist in on things. Plus I have my own reasons for wanting to diversify the artistic roster of this project...
If you want, you could probably message Adam since he's no doubt looking for the most bomb ass artists he can get for this, we're still at a point where I think we're looking for this, I just love Yuki's art and want it to be my punch girl's designer.
Jace Myers
Then why do her stats say she wears a breastplate?
Leo Sanchez
>If we keep getting people who want the name changed though, we probably will. Given the similarity in mechanics, you should at least change focus to something else like trance or insight. Otherwise people are going to keep making the Psionic Focus rip-off reference.
Ian Brown
So me and my group were playing level 6 of Emerald Spire after essentially skipping the water level for not being fun, since unless you're built for it water levels rarely are, and whoo boy is our GM getting sick of this book that was marketed for supposedly being "super hard".
I'm playing a Ranger who's the secondary DPS behind the Barbarian, we have an AC tank dwarven fighter who's next to impossible to hit and a summons/chip wizard that will guaranteedly do SOME damgage each round as long as the opponent has no SR.
I don't know about anyone else but unlike my old days of playing 3.5 encounters with creatures of equal CR to us just aren't a challenge, even though I have automatons as my favored enemy even without that extra to-hit and damage dealt I still deal 1d4+9 with my sling (I wanted to try something new) at a +11 to hit, which for most enemies is MORE than enough to hit as long as I don't roll lower than like, 7, and even if they do have DR I bought adamantine bullets to pierce through that kind of stuff since I got wise to the fact that so many of these guys have DR/Adamant.
My AC is only 22 but very, very few things are going to hit me consistently, and honestly the biggest areas we seem to run into trouble seems to be when there's environmental dangers like in the first couple of floors when everything is dark and difficult terrain, or the water level because water is inherently difficult unless you're built for it.
I dunno, it just seems like these Pathfinder Society guys don't really know how to make things truly difficult unless the people playing are complete fools with their character creation.
Ryder King
Because she presumably wears one in battle, not when hunting down prey.
That's fair, I mean it's basically our psionic focus, but at the same time, the name isn't a big issue for me (as opposed to wanting to keep the boxing sphere called the boxing sphere).
Camden Price
Those are even worse names.
Cameron Ross
Personally, I kinda like both. Focus creates a sorta Passive vs Dynamic Cash-in system that can be renewed between combat easily, while Stamina is for those "Reach into your reserves of inner strength" dynamic.
Personally, I'd have both, and put in a caveat that after expending focus, you can expend a certain amount of Stamina to regain focus
Ryan Jenkins
>(as opposed to wanting to keep the boxing sphere called the boxing sphere) How about "Pugilism" Sphere?
Justin Miller
Right now we're still in the early stages of balancing focus, so the ability to get it back that easily might be a bit rough. Maybe stamina + swift action would work, but we're still kicking around the sports circle about it.
That's the proposed name, but I like boxing because of how I envision it, which is Ippo.
Aaron Ward
>I dunno, it just seems like these Pathfinder Society guys don't really know how to make things truly difficult unless the people playing are complete fools with their character creation Occam's razor is perfectly accurate here.
This AP is difficult for terribly designed characters.
Anthony Anderson
I'd rather not see the Stamina system get mixed in. That's one more subsystem from one more book I have to deal with. I'd rather one nice neat system that covers what it's supposed to do on its own, preferably not point-based.
Christian Phillips
This is actually my plan for the next game I run, just to see how it works. Once I see more of SoM, I plan to design a setting around a world where it's nothing but NPC classes, SoP classes, and SoM classes.
Adam Green
Fisticuffs sphere.
Evan Wright
On a scale of 1-10 how edgy is turning my arms into giant katana? Because I figured out a way how.
Kayden Sanders
Pankration?
Julian Myers
But here's the thing, the first couple of floors were actually legitimately hard! Granted, that's because even though 3/4ths of our party had darkvision we were still practically blind, but friggin Vengeance was much harder than this when we were going through that campaign because the story did things that caused our resources to become strained, and there was little to no ability to just leave an encounter or dungeon until we were able to come back later, refreshed and ready to do battle.
See pic for how edgy that is.
Adrian Gutierrez
That was our general thought there; we want you to reference as few books as possible, which is why we're also not using Paizo's called shots...also because they're TERRIBLE.
That...isn't terrible.
That involves more than just karate punches. Remember, we have two unarmed spheres, and boxing is more based on counter punches, while open handed is based more on general punch shenanigans.
Lucas Long
Pankration is Wrestling, holds, breaks, crushing, twisting, and stuff like that, it would ideally have its own sphere
Jordan Gomez
It seems like that will work very well. It's hard to judge so far, but an armiger seems like it would fit in really well alongside hedgewitches, shifters, and elementalists.
Jordan Long
If any of y'all are in the tiny venn diagram of fans of Spellburst Savant and users of Hero Lab, I'm about 75% of the way through getting it and all its archetypes and stuff working in the app, and will probably be submitting it to the community data pack maintainer sometime this week.
Evan Diaz
Tell me about Strix, /pfg/. If given the opportunity, should I play one?
Nathaniel Perry
I've never really done any published art for anyone before so I'd like to maybe start somewhere.
How should I get in contact?
Nolan Wood
Tell me a moment of terror you've had while playing. A moment of horror when you realize there was a very real chance your character wasn't coming out of the next five minutes alive and moments where you felt like an actual hero.
My last one was when me and my party were in a town that was under the control of a werewolf king. We ended up saving the mayor's daughter who was supposed to be killed for sport by the werewolves. In response the werewolves that were still alive (we had killed one) decided to kill the entire village. We didn't know the entire situation at the time, but we realized we had doomed the entire village (the hunt was a 'if you make it to morning you get to back to the village, no one makes it to morning'). We had come into conflict with the werewolves twice already and they knew my character on sight.
We could have easily left from there. Two of our party members wanted to go back to base (we were part of a rebel group) and me and one other wanted to save the village. We convinced them to go back.
I volunteered to distract them. The plan I formulated was the only one I could think of that might kill the werewolves. I stripped out of my armor because I was faster without it. I was an oracle who had Energy Body so I could glow like a torch. Ended up running into the village as the werewolves arrived and antagonized them. They gave chase and I ran into the inn. The rest of the party barred the doors of window with me and the werewolves inside, and then we caught the inn on fire, they tossed as much oil onto the fire as they could find to speed it up.
I managed to survive barely because I knew there was a root cellar that I went into as I was running. One of the werewolves went in after me. I barely managed to kill the werewolf in the cellar as the building burned itself down.
I managed to survive but contracted lycanthropy.
Jonathan Rogers
>Alchemist >Get Cognatogen as soon as possible >Use it almost exclusively to boost your Charisma >Multiclass as bard for extra party face skills and bardic performance for shits and giggles >Yfw
I'm not sure if I'd suggest this as your first published gig, but I don't know your art, maybe you're awesome and we need you, so I'd try shooting them a portfolio, see what they say.
In non SoM news, for those of you whom were waiting for the Inquisitive Detective, Talented Tactician, and Trickshot Hood, that book is going to layout soon so you'll be able to finally see those archetypes in print!
News on the fate of Gore Fiend and Hellion are still up in the air, but hey, the playtest is slowly being filtered out.
Also there's a feat that I hope sees print in what I sent in that'll make my life better.
Cooper Hernandez
Back in my first Pathfinder game ever, my party was fighting the Attic Whisperer encounter in the first module and my fighter nearly got asphyxiated by it with a fucking blanket.
Conversely, I was later able to rip the skull off of said Attic Whisperer with my bare hands a session or two later
Carson Nguyen
I was thinking about doing a 3spooky5me character with an exaggerated love for poisons, skeletons, doomed things, etc, for RotJR, with some combination of medium, occultist, or spiritualist.
Is there anything else you think would go neat with that, other than just dipping into witch? I was thinking of maybe investigator or something else with alchemy/poison stuff...
Easton Phillips
Yo, this is just me talking, I just wanted y'all to know that I do appreciate the feedback that you give to my playtests and other such things, and I really do want to take into account the things you want for both SoM and my other projects.
I'll try to keep you updated on SoM, LK 2, #drake99 (the dragon race book), and whatever other jazz I've got going so I can get your feedback and make it even better!
Jayden Jenkins
>Spend the past 6 hours thinking up and making my character >Just now it occurs to me that I may have went overboard in the "special snowflake" department and the GM might disapprove of my character, even though he most likely won't say anything What do I do? I thought the idea was so amazing and creative while I was making it but now I feel like it will be the opposite.
I don't want to say exactly what it is in fear of people taking my idea but just know it might be misconstrued as magical realming if you think about it hard enough even though that's not even close to my intention.
Jordan Kelly
>Molthune hasn't picked characters yet
When will we be saved from this hell?
Jayden Watson
>finally get to use my dinosaur wild shape >the fucking ranger puts his cat in the way >it gets mind controlled over and over >tell him i'll fucking kill it if it means i can get to the boss and put same damage on him >he and three other party members swear to kill me if i even touch the fucking cat >i bull rush it out of the way >they attempt to kill me >DM allows this
Wyatt Young
Same, even though I know mine won't get picked I just want the wait to be over