GW is... actually doing fine? Holy fucking shit

>not buying GW shares when they ditched Kirby

Wew. It's like you don't even want to make money.

Yeah, turns out giving the company some personality made people like it more.

It's not even about personality, it's just about ditching the mad overlord for a reasonable man with common sense and decent idea how business works.

I'm not familiar with 40k but i can recognize heresy when i see it.

>they stopped AoS releases
>newest release is a Tzeentch army for AoS

tfw you don't check your investments in 3 months and make ~35% profit

Hey, its okay to like AoS. Dont worry. Its alright now. Its only on Veeky Forums where reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-tards shriek at any mention of AoS. Maybe if they shriek more, GW will be forced to release 9th edition and get rid of AoS right? I mean 9th age is totally killing GW AoS right now right guise??????

>sorry i dont follow 40k
Decade old? Closer to 20 years, Id say.

AoS sells better than Fantasy ever did in the last 10 years. Sorry you got BTFO.

Correction: AoS most niche novel outsold the bible in 10 different, be'lakor approved timelines

show me the sells of AOS only then

We only have the sells of AOS + 40k + specialist games

9th age players are the worst cunts I have to deal with at work.
They are the most condescending neckbeards I have ever known and seem to only be united by their general dislike for AOS rather than a love of the hobby.

Cunts the lot of them.

Heh their demise is our blessing, without the grognards neckbeard we can enjoy X-wong level of women in AoS

>19485-presscdn-0-14-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/2016-17-Press-Statement-final.pdf

>Kevin Rountree, CEO of Games Workshop, said:
>“Our business and our Hobby are in good shape.
>We are pleased to report sales and profit growth in the period across all channels. This improvement was built on a considerable team effort across the business.”
>…Ends…

+Doesn't go into long ramble about how this was his genius at work like Kirby did
+Talks about OUR hobby rather than the GW hobby or business like customers had no affect

Based Rountree is the best thing to ever happen to GW.

Then the report goes and says: we most avoid personal agendas and egos ruin the company.

Is it me or is he getting crap past the radar?

Pull those sales numbers out of your ass and show us then, sempai.

piss off, old WHFB isn't coming back and theres nothing you and the other 5 or 6 disgruntled neckbeards on here can do about it.

Be grateful AoS brought waves of new players back into a dwindling playerbase, turned a profit so that miniatures continued to be manufactured. AoS was the long overdue reboot which revived a community who are now regularly getting the chance to influence the design, rules and releases by voicing their opinions directly.

Frankly chump, you're missing out.

Agreed. Its a pathetic form of protest.

As someone with no dog in this game, why should I play Age of Sigmar? I had some interest in WHFB but never bought anything, and enjoy reading about the Old World. Nothing about the AoS really interests me, and the armies I wanted to play got squatted in the shift. Is there any outstanding reason why I should pick it up?

Personally, I find the Warhammer Fantasy threads comfy and interesting. You guys always seem to reeeee when WHFB is mentioned. What's up with that?

>Personally, I find the Warhammer Fantasy threads comfy and interesting. You guys always seem to reeeee when WHFB is mentioned. What's up with that?

Are you living another reality? Try mentioning AoS or End Times in the /whfb/ thread.

Fuck off with your retarded bait. If none of the models don't interest you, don't buy.

>I had some interest in WHFB but never bought anything

Probably because AoS players hear this. You find WHFB superior to AoS in lore (I agree) and gameplay (I don't but I disgress)... but then never bought anything and expected GW to keep shouldering Warhammer?

AoS didn't kill WHFB. GW outgrew it. They stopped making mass rank-and-file miniatures to extremely detailed multipose plastics, large monsters, etc that meant buying a regiment too costly. GW had the choice to make a cheaper, lower quality units (they tried testing with Skeletons, Orc Boys, Chaos Warriors small packs) and they never sold well.

AoS was just a plan to reuse some assets rather than throw them out. Why didn't you buy WHFB stuff if you wanted it around?

40K fans buy a new Space Marine army a year...

I have seen a few games of WFB played and really liked the rank and file formation shit.

The few games of AOS i have seen played look like 40k fantasy edition. In that round bases, no movement trays, things were being moved all willy nilly ect ect.

Sort of interested in an ironjaws army. or maybe doing something with dwarves if their unit boxes were not $50 a pop for only 10 guys.

For fuck sake stop releasing Xbox huge models.

Update the older metal models first then bring all this silly huge models.

>Sort of interested in an ironjaws army. or maybe doing something with dwarves if their unit boxes were not $50 a pop for only 10 guys.

And there is why WHFB died...

Remember when a 20 man squad of Cadians was sold for $30?

They've been doing fine for years. Their stocks and profit may have been going down but they were still making millions each quarter.

Aside from End Times fluff (which was met with "that was kinda shit, but what would happen if nagash didn't come in and fuck shit up" which in the very least is a productive attempt at trying to understand relations in the Old World), that kind of stuff wasn't really brought up. Go figure. Why talk about shit that's outside of your interests? If you wanna talk about Oldhammer, you'll talk about Oldhammer.
Because I got into Veeky Forums stuff as a whole towards the latter end of eighth. By the time I'd saved enough money to actually start building an army, ET and then AoS happened in short order. I didn't just stand by, arms crossed for years. I'm not debating that WHFB was probably unprofitable and not doing well. I was just in the unique position of coming in at the worst possible time. I understand the business sense of canceling WHFB, and maybe AoS is pretty successful. I also, obviously, didn't know that the game was declining in profits and was in dire straits.

I'm asking this not because I want to shit on AoS, I just want to know why I should play it, as someone who's slightly biased towards Oldhammer with an interest in the older, human, factions.

I remember when cars worth 10k were the high tier.
Whats your point ?

Because every time WHFB is mentioned faggots like you appear.

you can still play Oldhammer so play that instead.
You do not wonder why you should play waterpolo instead of TG related things so just dont ask yourself why you should play AoS.

>In the period we focused and delivered on our operational plan and are making good progress
on our
strategic initiatives
.
I'm delighted that our new approach to marketing and merchandising has been
received well. It's early days, we're having fun, and the feedback we've had is that our customers are
enjoying the changes too. I intend to build on
these improvements in the second half.
Never expected to read this from GW

A mass produced car from 1999 won't have gone up several 100% in price.
Yet the same cadian box has been recut down and jacked up in price several times.

just play oldhammer and comeback in 10years when endtimes is considered Oldhammer and AoS is the only option

>tfw Nissan 300ZX twin turbo was only $40,000 and was the equivalent of a mid-range $60,000 sports car or a low end $60,000 Porsche
>tfw a 30 year old 300zx with good condition and low mileage is still worth $10,000
>tfw the entry level sports cars are now $25,000 to $30,000

Using your car as an example.

New cars exist, better than the older ones, more expensive even taking into account inflation.

Here? Less models, the same decade old models and more expensive without any improvement and even taking account inflation.

$40 should be the cost for the 20, maybe $50. Today you pay $30 for 10.

That is the shitty thing, even taking into account other economic factors the pricing is just off. Specially for a decade old product

Cadian snapfits are $10 for 5 models and $25 for 10 multi pose. You'd have to be poor and salty as fuck to whine about those prices, and those are MSRP you can always buy cheaper on eBay or at third party stores.

>I'm asking this not because I want to shit on AoS, I just want to know why I should play it, as someone who's slightly biased towards Oldhammer with an interest in the older, human, factions

Well for a start, the rules are free. So you can get some tokens or bits of paper, write whatever they are on it and try it out moving them around, etc.

Most people like AoS because of the freedom of buying whatever you like without a tax.

You want that Chaos Lord on Manticore, Chaos Warriors and Knights but don't like the Marauders? You don't need to take 'em.

minis need to come down in price by 30% or so. probably never happen.

>$40 should be the cost for the 20, maybe $50

That's not how business works, faglord. Don't talk about shit you don't know anything about. Go take a class and come back if you're going to argue online about stupid shit like this. The price it SHOULD be is whatever the market will bear, and the market currently bears GW's pricing schemes.

Do I like that people are selling Greyfax preorders for $30 on eBay? No, I think it's stupid because that's more than it would cost if she was sold alone straight from GW. But this is what the dumbasses are bidding on the market, so there's nothing I can do about it.

>literally just buy from an online retailer for 30% off GW's price

You're stupid as fuck and so is everyone else whining about the prices.

>GW had the choice to make a cheaper, lower quality units
I'm interested to hear more

Snap fit... Also $29 USD ($30 for rounding really) for 10, not $25, that would be somewhat reasonable but expensive.

Did someone say pathetic protest?

I don't know if he's referring to this, but they did have factories in China that made shittier models. They used them for the imperialis sector bases and some AoS terrain. The details aren't as crisp and the plastic looks and feels like Mantic stuff.

Some of the new AoS stuff has. The upcoming Kairic Acolytes are 20 miniatures for $50.

Never pay 100% MSRP for GW stuff, especially when GW sells to retailers at 50% MSRP and most retailers sell at 80% MSRP or less. If you pay GW's prices you're basically paying 20% more than you need to for no reason. GW's site also charges $10 minimum shipping ALWAYS.

You guys should meet him. Absolute top bloke, loves the hobby, always up for pints. Hes clearly someone who understands how GW should run, hes on the ball and good at what he does without being stuck up his own hole.

They don't even let Kirby into the board meetings anymore hes so disliked.

They tried snap fit boxes which were easy to put together, cheap boxes to bulk up regiments.

games-workshop.com/en-US/Chaos-Warriors
games-workshop.com/en-US/Vampire-Counts-Skeleton-Warriors-5-models

This actually benefits GW more. If he put that on Ebay, he'd have made money back, and someone who wanted Dark Elves would have paid him money, and hopefully less - now they'll go by from GW.

So... congratulations?

They guy formalized fucking Tzaangor's as a full fledged army.

Fucker is a damn Longbeard for sure.

A 10 man box of dwarves is still $50 annon.

I dident buy it for WFB and im not gonna buy it for AOS.

I like them but im not buying them even at %30 off.

I pay where i play. When i did not have a LSG around i ordered online.

But when one opened up i order everything through him. The store is smart enough to offer a %20 discount on GW to members of the various GW gaming groups (AOS, 40k, LOTR)

I'm not talking about the idiots in ebay. I'm talking greed for greed sake.

Lets leave the idiots cuck that just buy. It is a known fact that GW sell to at 30% discount, and they selling them at a discount still makes them a profit

There is at least a 20% in GW products that above their profit margin.

We can safely assume producing (including, shipping, fabrication, moving, storage etc) is less than 10% of what they sell.

Market is one thing, fucking abusing the market is another.

Also that the profit margins of GW are retardedly high, they have other problems and is not their sales.

>I dident buy it for WFB and im not gonna buy it for AOS

To quote Kairic Acolytes are 20 miniatures for $50 or 10 Tzaangors for $45.

>I like them but im not buying them even at %30 off.

... exactly how cheap do you think they should be?

Well when 5 models are $40 USD it is hard to sell unless you already are addicted to plastic-crack

This is such a load of bullshit

A full army : 40 multipose marines, 4 dropods, 4 rhinos, 2 landraiders, 10 terminators, 4-5 HQ of some sort, 2dreads and 2 flyers...

For $40 to $60 looks good, then it will be competing with videogame prices

He speaks the truth and you know it.

>For $40

So... the 4 drop pods, rhinoes, two landraiders and ten terminators, etc should all be free?

Y'know there is not a plastic miniature maker on the market selling sci-fi miniature for less than a dollar, right?

20 for 30 seemed fair.
Rank and File should never go above 2 bucks.

then I wont buy it.

AAA games clock around 100

>A full army : 40 multipose marines, 4 dropods, 4 rhinos, 2 landraiders, 10 terminators, 4-5 HQ of some sort, 2dreads and 2 flyers...
>For $40 to $60

Not this week, next Saturday. However, you can get Tzeentch Dice, and the new Battletome for the Tzeentch Acolytes

Maybe if GW were selling Space Marines like this...

even chinese recasts are more expensive than what you are suggesting

Australia detected.

The rest of the world has normal prices.

wargames are an odd thing compared with other stuff.

Paying $40 for 5 models is not much. When you need more than 20 to play the basic 1000 game points it gets silly really fast.

Playing MSU, and over buying everything at 1000 points and not bringing a pants on head retarded list like one of 4 models or 3 Rapetides.

You still need about 13 models with any faction, 2 squads of 5 dudes, one leader and 2 tanks to move shit around.

$80 for 10 dudes
$80 ish for 2 tanks
$20 ish for the leader

$180 for minimum and not even sure if you can play a 500 point game with that.

You are not suppose to buy a 2000 points from nothing but dropping at least $180 for not even the minimum models for a normal low point game it silly. That is the plastic alone

ebay.com/itm/28mm-50-PLASTIC-ORCS-DWARVES-FANTASY-WARGAMING-WARHAMMER-ALTERNATIVES-NEW-/171796046827?var=&hash=item6d9a3bba2f

Um, maybe try here?

But he's not and you know it.

>board about traditional games
>defends a game without rules

top kek

AoS doesn't have fans, only shills.

So you think GW killed WHFB to spite you?

Stay chill, user.

>le one page rule meme xddddddd

In 5 years youll all be playing AoS anyway, so enjoy the last years you have ahead

how does living off mommy and daddy all your life feel? want to come join the real working world and find out how life really works?

Freeform is a valid type of roleplay, why couldn't it be a valid type of wargame?

and it doesn't have critics. only twats who waste posts.

hey, it's better moving individual bases compared to regiments, that's why you died out... look at the historical market.

I got a bunch of those minis from someone and I was wondering what the fuck they were from.

Just old generic Space Marine knockoffs. Maybe I'll paint some of them bronze and use them as terrain statues or something.

>>In 5 years youll all be playing AoS anyway, so enjoy the last years you have ahead
Wargames aren't something you have to get used to or switch to, it's not the government. It's a game almost nobody plays now and in 5 years nobody will be playing AoS. Unless 40k gets hit by an End Times in Space then they'll be the only minis GW still produces.

Freeform is a type of roleplaying. A valid one maybe. A one that actually ensure proper roleplaying not likely.

Remember humans want the illusion of freedom, when they have actual freedom they simply have no idea what to do and go full retard.

You know It, I know, everyone knows it, but no one really want to admit it.

So you want to buy a full, maximum sized complete 40K army... for the same price you'd buy up a Triple A video game in a store?

Wow, that's... wow. I mean I'd like it but i think we need to live in the real world, user...

>It's a game almost nobody plays now

Sure you are masturbating in your mancave since 5th and dont go into any FLGS. thing is, Aos Has more tournament than WHFB ever had.

>yfw gw has entered a new golden age

I highly doubt it. Let's take in consideration being nerd is cool now. So let's talk about proportional tournaments.

Say here it is that way does not help. Because if it did Warhammer fantasy has more tournaments than any wargame here. For some odd ducking reason. Followed by warmachine then 40k. AoS is nothing but a game you play when you can't find people to play the game you like.

So yah anecdotal evidence does not count

I have and it's always been 40k. I went into a GW five different times and not a single person played AoS. The only AoS models I've ever seen in real life were the ones on display in the glass cases.

Feels fucking Goodman. Never done it before, but very tempted to buy a complete Kairic Acolyte army in one go instead of piecemeal like usual.

>tfw I can buy all the plastic toys I want
>because it's all using money from my "new track wheels and tires budget" that is never going to meet the quota for forged wheels
>ugly stock rims forever

A-at least I have my miniatures...

Seriously, the cheapest good wheels are like $150-300, and you faggots are complaining about $30 for 10 toys.

PER WHEEL

Forged wheels are like $600-800 EACH