For someone who's only played D&D and Dark Heresy, how's Pathfinder compare?
Any groups looking for new players?
Matthew Sanders
Most of the big, climactic battles my group's characters go on are either covert missions from whatever kingdom they work for or personal battles with people that aren't exactly widely known, even if they are big threats.
The fact that so few of us play bards also probably has something to do with that...
Logan Wright
There are a few games that are very close to closing applications.
If you've played 3.5, Pathfinder is like that with some of the clutter reduced. If 3.5 is your comfy messy room, Pathfinder is when you've got company coming so you shove all your stuff in the closet.
Evan King
You are presented with the following situations, how do you react?
>your GM tells you that the arrangement of several birds in a tree, cracks in the wall and an old man sitting form a perfect representation of the golden ratio. You are suddenly overcome with powerful nausea and need to make a will save. On a successful save you take 1 wisdom damage.
>At night while looking at the stars you are suddenly overcome with the realization of how cold and distant they are. A terrible dread overcomes you. You need to make a will save, on a successful save you take 1 wisdom damage.
>while bathing you begin hearing a distant scream. You realize that no matter what direction you face the screaming is always behind you.
>while alone in a room you hear a tapping from the mirror, there are smudges in the shape on a picture of stick figure at the height a child would draw
>the ogre midsetence begin babbling in tongues and vomits a pile of papers, shredded but covered in words. Reading them you realize they are from your own diary several days from now. They a recursive story of finding the diary from several days onward, you are trapped in the narrative and go unconscious for 1d4 days.
Aaron Robinson
So if anybody here uses Hero Lab, I've got a first pass of the Medic and Spellburst Savant put together. They still have some bugs I haven't fixed yet, though, so I'd appreciate any help with HL wizardry:
What are we going to do when these campaigns are over, and the General is met with silence?
Joseph Bell
I added a few things to Reina's application that discuss her motivation abit, but I am worried they seem like after thoughts now. Not sure how I should intertwine those better.
John Wilson
Spheres of power: you get one sphere and two talents?
Jack Bennett
I tell him that this isn't Call of Cthulhu, and that I offered to play that, but he refused to learn anything but Pathfinder.
No. When you gain spellcasting as a class feature you get two talents, which can be spent on a sphere or on things within that sphere.
Asher Price
What do you mean?
Opening a sphere costs one talent and gets you the base abilities.
You get two bonus talents when you first get Casting.
Jeremiah Cox
>If 3.5 is your comfy messy room, Pathfinder is when you've got company coming so you shove all your stuff in the closet. I like this description. You should get a raise, wherever you work at.
Jace Richardson
I tell him that stealing the plot from groundhog day is pretty funny
Juan Taylor
I mark off nothing on my sheet, remind him for the tenth time this month that no I'm not cheating, my aegis suit provides stalwart, and that stars are giant fusion explosions utterly devoid of "being cold", and that for the tenth fucking time blue light does not fucking freeze you.
Also we need to find the asshole using ventriloquism magic on us before I start to look for it more violently.
>that last one is obviously some cinematic fuckery since there's not even a save and we're used to time travel by now, he forgot it's not real armor he can steal - again - and I'll reform it - again - when I wake up.
Juan Johnson
>golden ratio
David Hernandez
>With Kraft Mac and Cheese depending on the type of noodle it is normally within the range of 1/7 cup of milk and a maybe half a spoon of whipped butter combined with the full packet of cheese against warm pasta.
Jordan Roberts
>ANCIENT >MEDICINE
Justin Collins
Reposting for the new thread, sorry if that's a bad.
Christopher Powell
>old man sitting form a perfect representation of the golden ratio Fucking run from the old man. Fuck the golden ratio and its bullshit. Fuck this.
If I'm using phalanx lancer stance, do I gain 1.5x strength to damage rolls? I ask this, because I still gain the bonus damage from power attack as though I'm wielding the weapon in two hands.
Lucas Gutierrez
>You will never fall in love with a slutty bandit lass >You will never make her embarrassed of her past, and try to be the exclusive girlfriend she thinks you deserve
Parker Gutierrez
It is too late, you have already been trapped in the old man's rotation. I hope you remember The Lessons
Ian Jones
Who would you seat on the throne of Minkai instead of Ameiko?
For me it's Song Lilin!
Christian Stewart
>tfw you'll never have a bandit leader lass fall in love with you >tfw you'll never see her send waves of her own men to their deaths just to find some bauble to please you, to make your work easier, or just because she thinks it'd look good on you while you're plowing her.
Jason Hall
Why can't I have games with this is the word of an enemy stando! moments?
Thomas Myers
>or just because she thinks it'd look good on you while you're plowing her.
>mfw it's a necklace with a minor Enlarge Person enhancement
Leo Mitchell
Best of luck to you, user.
By the by, /pfg/, what is your favorite spell? Not necessarily the most useful one, but one that you just really, really like.
Caleb Smith
>The Spin >A Stand Someone tell this user to eat shit.
Jose Brooks
>You will never live in a shitty anime designed to fulfill your shitty fantasies.
Benjamin Diaz
How could a bandit leader lass possibly maintain a healthy sexual relationship with an adventurer?
Is she purposefully losing to him in battle and then offer herself as a reward?
Evan Kelly
The only difference between an bandit an an adventurer is the bounty on their heads
Grayson Flores
Tell him yourself!
Juan Brooks
Fine!
Eat shit asshole! Fall out of your chair!
Andrew Fisher
If I'm married to the idea of a non-initiator martial class--say, Cavalier--for its support abilities or synergy with another class, how many Martial Training feats would I really need?
I'm considering just going in for two to gain Raging Hunter Pounce, but is that enough, or should I plan to invest more feats?
Brandon Green
I'm hungry but it's late at night.
What could I make that would be super easy and super delicious?
PS I drank a little.
Oliver Kelly
Thats where youre wrong kiddo
Angel Mitchell
So how did the Starfinder livestream go?
Cameron Edwards
if I recall, some homebrewer here made an initiating template for Cavaliers and Samurai
Grayson Scott
>you will never adventure with a reformed bandit lass trying to get on the straight and narrow
You shag on the weekends, agree to stay out of each other turfs on the weekdays.
Angel Cook
>the paladin calls his great sword "The Straight and Narrow >he also calls his "sword" "The straight and Narrow"
So confusing sometimes
James Scott
Quesadillas are easy Alright, you need >2 tortilla >some refried beans >shredded cheese >Tortilla chips >maybe some chopped onions and jalapeno slices if you have those ready >some sliced chicken or turkey
Take a tortilla, and spread the beans on it. Then spread a little cheese, then the veggies or meat, then the tortilla chips, your other veggies or meat if you have it, then spread some cheese. Then take your other tortilla, spread the refried beans on it, and slap it on top.
Then throw that shit in the microwave for 30-45 seconds
Take out and enjoy your ghetto quesadilla, maybe cut it in slices if you want
Jacob Scott
If you're getting together tortilla, refried beans, shredded cheese, tortilla chips, chopped onions, jalapeno slices, and sliced chicken, is it really that hard to put it in a pan?
Carter Cruz
>She intentionally seduces the dutiful Lawful character just to feel what it's like to fuck a guardsman.
Carter Sanders
Have some respect! He was an inquisitor!
Blake Kelly
It's a two-handed weapon, and therefore gains 1.5x bonus to damage regardless of its handedness. This doesn't mean a large character can use two-weapon fighting with medium greatswords to get 1.5x damage on damage rolls with both weapons, since the rules state in this case they are treated as one handed weapons.
This is the key difference between Pikeman's Training and Phalanx Lancer Stance, because Pikeman's training treats it as a one-handed weapon, while Phalanx Lancer Stance has no such wording. This rule also applies to wielding a lance on horseback, because you are wielding it in one hand, but not treating it as a one-handed weapon.
This is a common misconception that makes people think piercing thunder is way shittier than it actually is. Really it's quite strong.
Ian Clark
>put it in a pan? You don't, you just put that shit together on a paper towel or plate, put it in the microwave, then take it out. No pans or grilling involved, all microwaved, since you are just using shredded cheese.
Its just like putting a sandwich together, except its a floppy tortilla instead of bread
Ryan Richardson
whoops, misread what you meant.
The appeal of the microwave quesadilla is that its fact, you don't need to bother with the stove, and its just quick and easy finger food, so you can take it out of the microwave and take it immediately to your computer so you can eat while posting on Veeky Forums
William Green
Right, but I'm saying is it really worth the minute you save if you're ending up with a microwaved tortilla instead of something more evenly heated?
Andrew Perez
generally, i find unless you have a complete shit microwave, the 45 seconds in the nuker heats it evenly enough
Jeremiah Brooks
That's actually pretty good--losing the challenge is gonna hurt bad, but it doesn't clash with my other archetype. Thanks.
Adam Cruz
Also, because I don't always feel like getting a pan dirty and doing dishes afterwords, when a microwave and a paper towel do just fine.
Mostly because I'm the one in the house who has to do the dishes each morning, and I'd rather not add to my own workload while everyone else piles the sink up
Elijah Anderson
Wait FUCK it requires a mount.
Isaac Richardson
>Tfw you eat all your food at your computer
I am scum.
Jackson Butler
>Half-orc Inquisitor seduced by the Elvish bandit
Brandon Brooks
Gotta ask, is losing Challenge really worth it?
Jeremiah Parker
You don't lose challenge, you just lose the order specific benefit of your challenge. So Order of the Dragon Cavalier doesn't give a bonus on attack rolls to his allies.
Oliver James
Seems like this homebrew is a little...let's say "lopsided". Adding a mount-specific thing while allowing for the removal of a mount--how would that work if you've taken an archetype that replaces the mount?
Wyatt Sanchez
You don't lose All of your challenge, you still have your extra damage, from the challenge itself, you just lose the adjustment to Challenge your Order provides.
Well, its doesn't quite "require" Mount by RAW, its just a few of its abilities will just not work without it. You still get the Initiating though
Robert Perry
S'kinda poor design m8
Blake Anderson
So would Mounted Maneuver Expertise then work with just any horse or other mount you get your hands on?
Christopher Morales
>how would that work if you've taken an archetype that replaces the mount? The mount based ability just wouldn't activate unless you get a mount from a different source. You still get essentially all the other things though
Considering most of the archetypes that remove Mount aren't that great and tend to be combat based, I'd say still getting the initiating is still a gain.
Ethan Hernandez
It's still shit design. Dont give dead abilities.
Jayden Powell
>So would Mounted Maneuver Expertise then work with just any horse or other mount you get your hands on? That does not seem to be the intention, but I'd allow it.
Jeremiah Morales
So I was asking my DM about how he's handling drinking rules (since eventually I'll dip in Drunken Brute or Drunken Rager) and he gave me a choice between these two.
The first rules he's stated I'll immediately get sickened if I go over that cap, and the second rules I won't get a Dex benefit from "Stage 1".
So which do I go with? I mean originally I was just going to drink to mitigate having so few rounds of rage, but now I can get much more from it...
Jonathan Myers
Seneschal guy here. Thank you for the criticism and comments. I have entered a sidebar type thing into the document to address this issue.
If you think this is stupid, please tell me so right now, and please give me any other ideas you have for it.
PLease keep in mind I designed the template to be an on-interferance as I could so it could be compatible with many archetypes such as the Luring Cavalier and Beast Rider. If this was a dumb decision as well, please tell me that too.
Andrew Williams
what do you boys think of the last minute rotjr apps?
Easton Perry
They run the gamut from interesting enough that I wish they'd had time to be memed to making me feel annoyed.
Jacob Davis
>dragon game will never be memed as hard as RotJR
Austin Richardson
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Austin Flores
would it be too much to ask which apps invoked which opinion?
Hudson Roberts
Because rotjr had like what four months to dragongame's one?
William Thomas
Eh, i say its had a healthy enough amount of meme
Jeremiah Adams
>scrolling through listings >find that colt .45 wielding, gas mask wearing medic guy applying to a bunch of games oh lord
Easton Ramirez
We obviously need to fix that problem then. Who's the most memeable character from dragongame?
Zachary Perez
Holy SHIT that's a lot of last minute applicants!
Time to finish mine up, fuck!
Landon Gray
It really would, I think
Ryan Kelly
>Want to app >Too afraid my app won't get accepted due to inferior writing/backstory/not making a waifu
Blake Jones
Fear is the mind-killer.
You must always go into writing an app thinking you're better than at least half of the bastards applying.
Dominic Smith
I think one of them is an Arcanist||Cleric with 8 wis.
Brandon Parker
You're right. I'll counter the walls of text with my lack of walls.
Ethan Nguyen
>int for arcanist spellcasting >cha for arcanist and cleric class features
no room for wis
Cameron Morris
Transplant Visage. You literally rip somebody's face off and steal their appearance to use for yourself.
Blake Edwards
Then don't gestalt with cleric?
Gavin Collins
>Class features What class features could possibly more important than your spells?
Isaiah Watson
>increased BAB >increased fort save >channel energy >some bullshit domain powers
It's not like arcanist gets weaker by gestalting with cleric
Anthony Brooks
Except you have no Wisdom to cast the spells that are the strongest aspect of being a cleric. Why not try Paladin instead? It gets channel energy, and it can put your Charisma to better use.
Brody Cruz
Arcanist isn't lacking in power. Arcanist/commoner gestalt is fine. Who cares?
Dominic Barnes
Just use Oracle. You get Cleric casting off of Charisma, and you still get increased BAB, channel energy and some other crazy bullshit if you wanna be OP as hell.
Jackson Hill
>cleric >class features What the nani?!
Colton Wright
Okay, there's "I'd rather not order the steak because that's not what I like", where you don't want to play a spellcaster/initiator/whatever and then there's "I've ordered this expensive lobster and now I'm going to throw it in the trash because fuck you."
Guess which one your choice sounds like.
Matthew Price
probably the dragon maid
James Peterson
How many apps is RotJR up to now?
Lucas Foster
34, unless I miscounted.
Blake Jones
So why didn't you apply to RotJR with an Arcanist||ZS Warder?