Sure is slow when there's no leaks to talk about...
Sebastian Howard
It's slow during work and school hours.
Jacob Reed
I want to use a DE Tantalus, but i cant find the 3rd edition of the Apoc book since the main mega went down. Anybody have it?
Hunter Gomez
Repost because i want an answer, i`ve got a question
I plan to use the Emperor's Talon Recon Company for some fluffy games in the future and i just read that one of the sentinels becomes a character, does that mean that he could by my warlord and get warlord traits ?
Christopher Parker
So the Necrons are going Lawful Neutral, huh? Trazyn is even HELPING HUMANS now.
Eli Barnes
>Americans
Nathan Mitchell
yes
Tyler Torres
It's like 8:30 pm in Bongistan, the country of this game's origin
Charles Bell
The Ynnari list now means I can take stick aspect warriors inside of venoms without having to deal with allies, and I can take swooping hawks and scourges together too. Wraithguard in raiders and Archons dropping squads of wraithblades onto your face. Cool.
Juan Allen
Fuck it, I'm going to order 12 sentinels
Mason Thompson
>europeens Shouldn't you be asleep mate
Hudson Sullivan
thanks, that means that i can legally field sergeant Dauntless and his fearless warband of Sentinel pilots, ready to destroy the emperors enemies
6 are enough for that formation, but of course 12 would be better and i think they may even be kinda effective
William Lopez
I'm an Americal, too. Britbongs should be finishing diner about now. Tea time is serious. God save the Queen.
Connor Young
I just posted this in the old thread and only after that I noticed the new one opened.
Any thoughts on this list? I still have to buy everything, so I can change ideas in any moment. I plan on buying both the Start Collecting box and the other big one with 40 Gaunts, Gargoyles and a Carnifex plus other stuff because the Elite slots must be there.
Carson Reyes
when is tea time?
Jace Peterson
Alright /40kg/, I've been working on fluffing my donut steels, and would like some feedback.
>Technically a renegade Dark Angels successor chapter >Made up of chapter marines who have fallen under the influence of Cypher or his company >Basically the Fallen, but not 10 millennia old >Cypher's influence is not necessarily bound to the Dark Angels, members may be drawn from any chapter >kind of like a renegade Deathwatch, although the large majority are going to be Dark Angels >Initiation into the chapter includes placing one's right hand upon the alleged Lion Sword, being gifted visions of the ancient past >Marines paint their right arm red as a reminder of the visions they see >Similar to the Deathwatch, marines repaint their armor, but may keep their previous chapter's heraldry and shoulder badge, though none of it's color >Like the Fallen, they operate almost entirely in secret, drawing the Imperium's attention only when it benefits them >Unit composition complies with the Codex Astartes, will be fielded using the Dark Angels Codex
The name I've called them so far is the Angels of Atonement, though this wasn't meant to be permanent. Some of my reasons for doing this is I currently play Dark Angels, but one of the people in my circle (whom I met after collecting a sizeable army) ALSO plays Dark Angels. I don't like that we can't play against each other without the table looking like my unkempt back yard. So, being that I enjoy painting MUCH more than he, I have decided to repaint my army. This way also allows me to use some bits and transfers that would never have been used otherwise, and I have an excuse to buy some of the cool chapter-specific boxes without starting another army.
So what say you, Veeky Forums? Would any of this trigger your autism to the point that you wouldn't play me anymore?
Gavin Nguyen
I can always shitpost about New Celestine not being a SoB.
Chase Allen
I'd probably want to play against you more, especially if it was a narrative campaign
James Jones
What is this infatuation with horrible open topped overpriced heavy weapons platforms? I was addicted to Armored Core too but I'm not a sadist
>It is the measure of the man, and not his wargear, that matters in the eyes of the Emperor.’
Also
>Congratulations to Officer Giampapa for transcribing today’s missive. He has broken the record for informational footnotes. A Commissar has been to dispatched to talk to him about wasting Departmento Munitorum paper.
Gabriel Anderson
No. The only issue is that Cypher is secretive as all hell and wouldn't let a bunch of weirdos touch his sword for anything. Also the name is off putting, are they actually atoning for something or are they just ditching the Imperium? I would seek a more appropriate title
Liam Williams
Where I play we never discuss for. Our at least not the fluff of our OC armies. Most you'd get is "cool paint job".
Zachary Wilson
It is a badass model though
Nathan Fisher
I really like the premise, but not so much the name or colors. I don't really think the name is fitting, and I think red+purple is going to look weird on the table
Oliver Roberts
I should stop using swype >We never discuss fluff or at least not the fluff of our oc armies
Ryder Ward
i would wait with the fluff until we get the 3rd gathering storm with cypher
Jason Moore
Well, I was kinda playing into the secretive thing so that I wouldn't be stepping on any established canon.
I really like the one arm painted a different color, but I feel like it ought to represent something.
Daniel Baker
If that's the case call them Cypher's Watch or something, or the Fallen Watch, a name like that suggests who they really are without having to write an essay on it
Nicholas Evans
Same thing here, I think the most I've been asked is what their name is and who the founding chapter was.
Jaxson Cooper
So the fuck list builder app do I use now that Battlescribe is dead? For ipad.
Levi Scott
PEN AND PAPER
Joseph Rivera
Not to be snarky but excel works well
Josiah Thomas
I've been out of the fluff loop for a while and didn't realize this was a thing.
Perhaps I ought to just stick with "Purple Dudes" for a while longer.
Ethan Ross
r8, h8, m4st3r b8
Angel Taylor
> PEN AND PAPER
Yeah if i want to piss my opponent off spending half an hour writing my list.
Alexander Ross
battlescribe is dead? if so the WAAAGHBuilder from op
Isaiah Hughes
First one was castellans.
Nathan Thomas
Not literally dead, but they stopped supporting the old app meaning it crashes every time I try to open it, and the new app has all 1 star reviews saying it -also- crashes when opened.
Asher Diaz
Would anyone throw a bitchfit if I modeled my Crusader squads with two chainswords and holstered bolt pistol? Not enough pistol arms and it looks cool plus it makes no difference rules wise.
Isaiah Morales
short version, guiiliman wakes up and somehow ends in an alliance with cypher. They even made a new model. Will be out in a month or so
Parker Rodriguez
Is this already a canon chapter scheme?
Jose Howard
Is the Cavalcade or Brood Cycle the better choice for a GSC decurion? I was thinking brood cycle for more bodies, but are the chimera and leman Russ worth it if I was going to take a Core+ Uprising + Demolition Claw?
Adrian Hughes
It shouldn't take you more than 5 minutes. I can do a 2k list in that time.
William Garcia
>Not writing your list beforehand
List-tailoring Tau scum detected
Nolan Anderson
Well that's real neato for you, but it's still infinitely faster to just pick off a list and not fuck up your options or math.
Bentley Scott
Well fine, do it the efficient way you wacko
Robert Thompson
You should use this scheme instead
Adrian Perry
Probably not.
Brayden Cook
Thats not how platoons work. One platoon counts as on troops choice, and comes standard with one platoon commander and two gaurdsmen squads (not veterans)
Lucas Hill
that's just the result of carrying 2000+ points of models around with you and someone comes over and wants a 1000 point game.
Jack Brooks
Thoughts?
Austin Price
Nah, I just buy way more models than I actually need then shake up my list according to whim for variety.
I don't generally write until I meet my opponent because I don't know if we'll be playing 1000, 1500, 2000 or some arcane other number.
Carter Taylor
>Not having pre-defined and written up lists for every point value
Luis Baker
The Platoon is missing 2 required Infantry Squads, since Conscripts are part of a platoon there's 3 (1 incomplete) troop choices in that detachment.
Formation CCS is missing its required transport, a Manticore/Deathstrike is missing and there's only 1 of 2 artillery units unless this is some Emp's Wrath formation I don't remember.
thats not how it works if you tank an allied detachment you need 1 troop 1hq hq=pask
1troop = 1 veteran squad OR 1 infantry platoon (the whole platoon is 1 choice)
a platoon has 1 Platoon command 2-5infantry squads 0 - 3? special/heavy weapon squads 0-1 conscript squad
Tyler Wood
When the Big Bong bongs several times past midde deigh.
Connor Gutierrez
God bless you user
Luis Robinson
Why tf this nibba look like he bout to backhand a sister of battle round her face and call her ho?
Sebastian Brown
>taking half an hour to scribble down a list Are you a special student?
Charles Peterson
It should be easy to have lists pre made for the most common point values. If someone really wants to play at 1250 or whatever, then you can just look at the differences between your 1000 and 1500 list and add some things to meet that value on the fly.
If I'm looking for a pickup game, I don't want to wait around for to to write a physical list, or watch you sit on your phone for 10 minutes and then have to read over things to make sure the program is actually right.
Jeremiah Myers
His pimp hand touched the alleged Lion Sword user
Gavin Nguyen
>It has a boner for Priest with plasmaguns >No idea why you would like to put a plasma gun to your single wound 25 points model that is better off as support in Melee for his war hymns I was thinking the same thing. I mean, a Priest with a Plasma Gun is worth it maybe if you have Kurov's Aquila or you put it in a Command Squad with Straken and fill it up with Plasma and the Medic because of Straken's melee buffs combining well with a Priest, as well as Monster Hunter working well with Plasma, but that's an incredible waste of points. That's like 355 points for a Guard HQ that isn't a Tank Commander.
Personally I like to take a Priest from the IA book so I can have one with the Book of St Lucius. 5 Points to make War Hymns auto-pass which is great if you only really have one giant blob. It's even better if you manage to get Forewarning from a Psyker and get a re-rollable 4++. Also Jacobus is pretty worth it too for blobs with or without the Castellans. 12 inch Counter-Attack and Fearless bubble with Castellans ingrained Hatred is solid. Plus LD9 War Hymns for the blob he's a part of.
Nolan Martin
Yes.
I mean, I'm in university now, but I still suck at basic math and have sloppy as hell handwriting because the special school I got sent to in my primary years let kids "study at their own pace" so suddenly I find out I'm four years behind in math when I'm transferred back to regular people school.
Incompetent fucks. Was a nightmare cramming back through the coursework to get caught up.
Jaxon Robinson
thoughts? the basic idea is to avoid the enemy trust and attack from a flank
tried to make a not-too-cheesy ynnari list
Jack Morales
I like how the instructions to take a platoon and its effect on FOC is clearly explained in 2 sentences on top of the page.
Mason Torres
Welp
Ryan Hughes
They are great. I use them a lot too because they are den out of den cute cute and decently effective. Emperor's Talon gives Armored Sentinels Outflank too. 3 Armored Walking with Plasma Canons is 5 points less than an Executioner with more hull points. It's not as good as an Executioner, but it draws less attention, plus the other 3 Armored Sentinels could outflank with Multi-Lasers or Autocannons or Lascannons and they get preferred enemy vs one unit, and there's always something worth while like a big MC or a squadron of MCs/vehicles.
Proud of you son. Emperor's Talon is a good formation by Guard standards. It's still weak compared to other armies, but you will have fun with it. Outflanking Armored Sentinels is great.
Kayden Cox
Use notepad you mong.
Mason Turner
excel? Openoffice calc?
Chase Reed
Rate my CSM list.
Death Guard Legion restrictions: - everyone (that can) must buy MoN - everyone (that can) gets VoTL for free - every unit with VoTL gets: -1 Initiative, Feel no Pain (5+), Fearless and Relentless
Army List:
HQ: Lord + Bike, P.fist, L. Claw, Mon, Sigil, VotLW - 165p
A little weak in numbers of infantry, but I tried to make a fun list while staying overall flexible and competetive (I usualy play with friends who tend to try out different crazy lists and formations, so I can't realy expect to face any specific army/list).
P.S. The only reason I've a helbrute in my army is because I have a huge hard-on for forgeworld chaos dreadnoughts.
Samuel Perez
He plays 40k...
Cameron Jackson
This may be a dumb question, but I've never dealt with Forge World so bare with me. When they say something is No Longer Available, do they mean they're waiting on restock or is it gone for good?
Samuel Reed
>- every unit with VoTL gets: -1 Initiative, Feel no Pain (5+), Fearless and Relentless with this for your basic CSM squad, why bring plaguemarines? especially since u are light on numbers anyway
Christian Long
gone/oop
otherwise its temporarily not available
Nathan Gutierrez
I don't mean to offend, but this list is awful. >Tyrant with all that junk You really ought to build your tyrants for one job or another, not multiple. Drop the lashbone unless you know you're fighting something that hits faster and harder, or swap the stranglethorn for scything talons. >Tyrant guard at over 200pts If your tyrant is screened well enough, you won't need 3, and certainly not 3 with crushing claws. Two maybe, I've gotten solid results with one usually. >3 expensive warriors Again, give the squad one job. Time spent shooting is time not spent on running, and vice versa. Drop the guns for scyth tals and use bones words unless initiative is that much of a problem. >expensive hormagaunts Rule of thumb: never take more than one upgrade on gaunts. They become too expensive for their survivability, and will bleed points unless cheapened up. >big blob o gants This isn't bad, but I'd suggest breaking them up into two or three squads for flexibility. >Hive guard Not bad, just make sure they're aiming for light transports and fliers if possible, that said, you have better options for AA. >3 zoans in a squad Wanting the neurothrope is ok, but you're costing yourself synapse range and a possible instant KO if someone starts hammering them with S8 or higher. The biggest issue with this list is the low and vulnerable synapse count. >3 venoms in a squad You really should only take two. Taking separate units of these guys will be more helpful when possible. >(assuming) can opener fex in the transport Solid, but needs support from one or two other deep striking squads.
I'd focus on spending fewer pts per model and stacking up the body count.
Lucas Baker
Then I am pissed as I was looking at the page earlier in the day, it was there, and I was thinking about buying it when I got off of work. God dammit.
Juan Russell
I don't really get Night Lords. Doesn't playing a fluff accurate Chaos-hating warband mean you have to disregard like half your CSM codex?
William Martin
>why bring plaguemarines I like plague knives (poison 4+) and the ability to take 2 special weapons in a smaller squad (I would have to take 10CSM otherwise). And most importantly, defensive grenades, which is something a lot of people often forget. I feel like the price difference is justified for what they get (not to mention a *free* champion).
Also, fluff. As I've mentioned, it's supposed to be a fun list.
Noah Cooper
huh? last time i looked, there was a last chance to buy? did they threw that in the bin again?
Adam Collins
I was looking at the Caestus Assault Ram
Christian Miller
For real though, wtf was GW thinking.
Blake Sullivan
Huh that thing is gone? drop them an email, maybe they just change some details or something
Levi Watson
>We created Sailor Moon Incarnate
Jason Robinson
I hope so. Its one of the few Space Marine flyers I like the look of.
Joseph Johnson
If you're not going with the Vectorium you shouldn't bother with the expensive plagues, cultists, terminators, helbrute or obliterators. Instead make your plagues MoN marines in numbers of 6 (so it takes 4 kills to get VP) a sorcerer lord on bike with a couple nurgle spawn then ally Vraks Renegades and fill troop choices with the best tarpit troop choice in the game, plague zombies. 4++ invuln fearless and no longer Slow and Purposeful with Vraks they're hands down the best choice you have. With a CAD of them you can make better use of their outrageous heavy support choices, rapier lasers being T7 AP2 ordnance at 20 points without extra crew and can be taken in batteries of 3 per choice is frankly broken and outperforms your autocannon havocs by unbelievable measure. Getting access to wyverns is what you need. I had written a list with Vraks Renegades being the primary detachment as the DG Legion command benefits kind of suck ass aside from eternal warrior but with that high of toughness you won't be ID'd against anything but a titan stomp. It'd also help to take a daemon weapon on your lord as LC+PF can't carry the squad like you think it will
Brayden Murphy
Holy fudge, this is some SSS+ sisters model
>sees UA using some autistic retextured models made by Geedubs, even the art looks like Trannies
well i never liked Ultimate Apocalypse and Cylarne's Circlejerking shitposts anyway...
Camden Hernandez
The regular marines with Mon and extra CCW are 18 points. Plague Marines are 24 points each.
So for 6 points you get: - poison 4+ - defensive grenades
And they can take 2 special weapons in 5-man squads instead of 10. Whatever floats your boat I guess, personally I prefer using CSM with marks.
Henry Bell
Updated stuff basing on your suggestions: reduced many loadouts, playing two blobs of 20 Termagants, adding two small bunches of Gargoyles to add some more deepstriking...
Elijah Nguyen
codex CSM does suffer from shit-too-expensive syndrome already, so you should not take more than absolutely necessary, i.e. the extra CCW should go aswell. in the end its only a T5 3+ model. It will die rather easy anyway.
For whats worth plaguemarines also get a better Ld which might be useful against psychic shriek and friends
Anthony Anderson
Are Space Marine command squads actually any good?
Jose Wood
That looks much better. You may want to modify it based on who you're playing, but looks solid.
Gavin Sanders
The fuck is this shit, how do i remove this window.
Levi Brown
But user I'm not trying to make the cheesiest list on this side of Terra
The expensive plagues, cultists, terminators, oblits and the helbrute are kind of the point. It's supposed to be a fluffy, low on numbers army that can still hold it's own and is a pain to properly kill off.
If I wanted cheese I'd go play Taudar.
Still thanks for the idea, I'll write it down, to maybe play it one day when I'm feeling particularly evil.
Jaxson Jenkins
If you are iron hands.
Parker Clark
If you're not iron hands, yes.
Ryan Martinez
>being too retarded to use simple software
Go for a walk user. It'll do you good.
Nathaniel Lewis
should i glue on the power backpacks for my kasrkin before priming them?
