That Guy / Terrible experience stories

I think drow attracts a certain kind of players who think darker+edgier=better, but I could see it done it ways that are neither.

Like picture related, except maybe less intentionally humorous.
You are a drow who somehow made it to the surface world, you don't want to go back to the matriarchy, not a lot of people trust you on the surface. So you look out for yourself and help those who help you. You don't have an end goal beyond survival and so you just go with the flow.

I never read the Drizzt novels so I don't know what kind of character he is, but I am familiar with the cliché.

>>Get invited to a Pathfinder game
There's your mistake.

Oh, I know. Believe me, I know.

Worst I experienced was a DM asking for our character's sexual preferences.

Wanted to quite right then and there, but a friend urged me to carry on. So I made a warforged and answered that they were asexual.

Game began with us having to rescue a princess, we find her as she is being "defiled" (raped) by a tentacle monster. At which point I excused myself and left, while I was waiting for the bus my friend came ten minutes later.
Asked him why he left, told me DM began describing my character getting raped. I pointed out that I had made a warforged, friend shrugged and said he had pointed that out too, but the DM didn't care, at which point my friend left.

I still wonder what my friend expected from a game where the DM asked for sexual preferences.

>That guy suddenly decides he hates mages, hates magic, hates the city, and especially hates it's queen.

Our last That Guy (he'd been playing with us for about five years total) used to pull this sort of shit all the time; he'd basically lash out as soon as he got frustrated, and the list of shit that frustrated him got longer and longer over time.

He managed to completely derail a long running campaign that I enjoyed, a lot, because he'd recently added "not being the centre of attention" to the list of things that frustrate him, and decided that playing a brooding loner with no character beyond would be a good idea. It'd always be...

>Get frustrated
>Do something really fucking disruptive
>"It's what my character would do!"

Eventually, we kicked him out, but the damage was done - the DM hasn't really ran a game since, it soured somebody relatively new to RPGs from wanting to try it again, and it's just generally drained the enthusiasm from everyone involved.

Mine is rather tame compared to most

>playing 5e D&D
>group consists of close friends, couple friends' friends and That guy
>grossly overweight neet who plays WoW
>plays female characters exclusively
>doesn't role play, ever
>can't really exclude him since his brother is also a player and a close friend of mine
>join in on the second session
>That guy is playing some shady cloaked cleric who dresses in such a way that it's hard to discern his or her true identity
>herewegoagain.tga
>roll up a rogue
>staying in character, I eye up the cleric to pick up anything that could indicate his/her race or gender
>fudge perception roll
>passingly ask out of character "so, you character is female, right?"
>"you don't know that, user" with a stupid fucking grin on his face
>"so, female, got it"
>"BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT"
>"whatever, man"

Other than that one exchange, he hasn't really been much of a nuisance.

I was that guy, once...

I made a strongman in a mutants and masterminds campaign and then I made him a grappler.

It was almost as broken as speedsters can be... sometimes I think that it's another reason my GM went on hiatus. I feel really bad

It still seems a bit of an odd concept to me, in that case. If you're not going to acknowledge your chosen race then why would you choose such a strange one. I would have thought the only reason to play a drow would be so that you can mess around with their culture and mindset a bit.

>I never read the Drizzt novels so I don't know what kind of character he is, but I am familiar with the cliché.
Funnily enough early Drizzt basically is a crazy drow hobo trying to figure out how the surface world works iirc.

>be a DM
>DM a newb game
>that guy rolls a teenager rogue with max bluff
>goes and pisses in middle of a town
>guards yell at him to go further away
>he goes and pisses in some poor peasants garden
>a woman comes out flailing a rolling pin and hits him
>nat 20
>crits
>takes whopping 2 dmg
>that guy shouts "GUARDS HELP HELP"
>tries to bluff the guard that he had done nothing wrong
>I tell him its useless to try to bluff the same guards that saw you pissing in public a minute ago
>throws a fit for not getting to roll an impossible bluff roll

Im so glad his character died last session. god bless rng.

>fudge perception roll
>against another player
>because you are obsessed with their character's gender

user, I think you're a that guy.

I think he means fudge as in 'do badly on' rather than 'fudge the result'
Plus he asked OOC, which is fine regardless of the result.

So asking once during a single exchange over the course of an entire campaign constitutes as obsession? Get real, user

>Character wears clothes that conceals their gender
>Other character slips up and calls them a man/woman because they aren't sure what's under the clothes
What's wrong with that, exactly? I would probably make the same mistake IRL, desu senpai

Have been playing Pathfinder for the last two years with the same group. Literally zero problems and tons of fun to be had. It's always the group, not the game.

...

Right, should've been more clear on that

Is 'That Guy' a term most players use, or is it just something from Veeky Forums?

Does it make a difference?

Just curious, haven't had the chance to play any rpg's

It's a pretty common term outside of Veeky Forums

>I still wonder what my friend expected from a game where the DM asked for sexual preferences.
I was getting set to point out that a GM knowing a PC's sexual preference, as in orientation, could be useful in setting up romance subplots so establishing it wouldn't necessarily be a sketchy thing.

Then I realized you said "preferences" plural, which could mean "What are your fetishes?"
There is a definite difference and the socially aware know which they're being asked when in person.
Like you clearly did.

The term isn't Veeky Forums exclusive, but it depends on the context you use it - mostly because it is so self explanatory. Urban dictionary has a few universal examples.

Most hobbies has a few categories of that guys an the expression is really only used when you need a umbrella term.

It is also a very relative term, which a lot of Veeky Forums doesn't get, they think it is an archtype - like Drizzt - and that everything they don't like is a that guy.

The best summary is: That guy no one likes. If there isn't one in your group, then it is you.
Someone always gets salty over this for some reason, I'm not saying that doesn't prove they are that guy, but...

Why is "this guy" not the antonym to "that guy" yet? Anytime somenoe deals with that guy in a good way, they become this guy.

>Why is "this guy" not the antonym to "that guy" yet?
Uh, user, it IS. Its even on fucking 1d4chan.

It is, but the number of bad players by far outnumbers the amount of good players (with a metric shit-tonne of "Meh." in between) and as such there are far fewer This Guy threads.

You are right that it wouldn't necessarily be a sketchy thing, but nine out of ten times I am asked that question it goes horrible.

Maybe I am just weird, but I like to keep my wanking at a safe distance from my hobbies.

Besides, most good GMs knows better than to begin developing romance subplots before the game has started.

holy shit you're right. I've been on this board for at least 3 years now and I've never seen it used

>most good GMs knows better than to begin developing romance subplots before the game has started.
Fair observation

>Maybe I am just weird, but I like to keep my wanking at a safe distance from my hobbies.
Also excellent advice that I follow.
Otherwise, it thickens the paints.

If no one else is going to post that guy stories, can someone share a this guy story?

>Never tried 3.5 or Pathfinder
>Get invited to a PF game by my friends friend I had just met at our 40k game (dude was a space wolves player seemed normal)
>GM tells me the setting
>Impassable swamp watched by steely garrison needs help dealing with a hag
>Elderly alchemist accompanies us to show us some plants he thinks the hag tampered with
>That guy arrives late sits next to space wolves guy
>GM catches him up and he informs us he will be playing a Dwarf named "Meatfist"
>Elderly alchemist leads us to the strange plants
>That guy starts making a bunch of dumb jokes as space wolves guy eggs him on
>Ignore it
>Finally arrive at the plant, I ask why the alchemist thinks its weird
>He says the odor is noxious and usually these herbs have a sweet taste and scent
>That guy tries to intimidate the alchemist into tasting it
>He is old and has no teeth, he also fails the intimidate
>That guy says, Ok I'm going to grapple the alchemist and shove the plant up his ass as an enema
>GM rolls his eyes and space wolves guy claps like a retarded seal
>Makes him roll for it
>He succeeds
>That guy murders an alchemist by shoving plants up his ass
>This happened once more with a toll guard and some silver pieces before the game ended and I never spoke to any of them again

first campaign I ever played, i think it's safe to say that everyone involved was in some way "that guy," including me.

Me
>Make a STR based 15 year old character
>overly reliant on dice rolls rather than roleplay
>rarely RP at all
>fuck up DM's "rebellion" quest line by turning on all the rebels during a raid when I learned they were socialists fighting the 1%
>frequently make stupid sex jokes while trying to get my character laid
>roll in situations where the chosen skill would not be applicable (intimidate a lich)

The DM
>hastily made massive city setting
>no actual layout or geographic consistency
>everything is improved
>shit, lower than the worst anime, tier humor and character archetypes
>Sir Duck, the duck knight
>the rat king, morbidly obese underground ruler who frequently murders people because "lol so random"
>DM PC who, in the span of us running a hundred meters to his hideout after we saw him tackled through the door by a guard, killed the guard and switched into his outfit.
>frequently putting us in encounters far out of our level range
>DM PC who pushes us down a certain path without giving us all the details, thus causing the scripted deaths of the whole party because "plot"

DM's friend
>intentionally antagonistic towards DM
>ninja that fucks with everyone else in the party
>poisons other players and NPCs
>no Roleplaying
>goes stealth and runs from every encounter, leaving me to deal with Lichs and other monsters by myself at level 2.
>partakes in debauchery just for the hell of it, no other reason
>decides to try and become a god without knowing all the details and sacrifices the whole city in order to attain godhood for a few moments before burning up.

The Other Guy
>Shows up three hours late to the first session
>Halfling character is mute with a tragic mom rape backstory
>does nothing for the rest of the session
>never shows up again

Well, here's a story I told three years ago.
You tell me where it falls.

>be working at mall media store with a video game demo
>mall has a decent gaming store too
>coworker is a WH40K enthusiast so I know the value of a set
>see kid at demo playing game and a clear case the size of suitcase, full of figures, on the floor next to him
>Iknowwherethisisgoing.jpg
>I make a point to circle around and check on the demo every few moments
>eventually, sure enough, the case is there, the kid is not
>snag case; put it behind the register quickly
>keep a wary eye out
>about 20 minutes later, kid runs in with a face of pure panic and horror
>I go up and tell him I have the case, give it to him, and tell him to be more careful next time
>THEN I go up and tell my WH40K Fan coworker the story
>his face lights up with delicious childlike glee when I tell him about the kid, the lost case, and me hiding it immediately
>his whole body thrashes to the side in dismay when I tell him I gave it back
>I still smile at his despair at the missed opportunity to steal from a child

>everything is improv

mostly my fault, I didn't really know what I was getting into. Didn't understand at the time that combat and dice rolls weren't as important as the roleplaying aspects.

Would have been nice to have a system, seems we were using 4e D&D character sheet mixed with elements from pathfinder.

Least I know better now, but damn is that whole experience hard to look back on.

Damn, what an asshole.

Although personally I would've probably done what you did, forgotten I had the case, and watched the kid cry for half an hour before I remembered to give it back.

My short and simple solution to guys who try random nonsense is that nothing can be attempted in game unless you can explain a reason, that makes sense, why that character would do that.

Your coworker is a dipshit and you did the right thing.

Viconia De'Vir is Drow done right.
1d4chan.org/wiki/Viconia_de'Vir

>”Drizzt”-player hasn't gotten any, no Pizza for him
>Throws a tantrum until the GM lets him have pizza anyway
I fully agree with him here, it's absolute bullshit to eat pizza and force him to watch just because the guy happened not to have any cash on him.

As a GM this is how I deal with minmaxers.
Might be railroading, might be GM fiat. I don't care.
But even if you have a charisma modifier that is through the roof, why the Hell should an NPC do your every bidding just because you are a charismatic son of a bitch?
At least give a reason instead of randomly throw a dice.

You are okay with someone throwing a tantrum until they get their way?

Not him, but it seems like the other players were being a bundle of dicks too. Why not go "sure, have a piece, you can pay me back next time"

Telling him to seat and watch everybody eat pizza because he had no cash is even more despicable in my opinion.

>I would have stolen from a child and watched him cry for HALF AN HOUR with a smirk on my face like some turbo-autist

I've got a similar story.
>Friend runs a church youth group
>This was when Yugioh was stupid popular
>Friend spent easily nearly £1000 in getting all the latest cards, decks and stuff.
>Friend even went out of their way to get English god cards and whatnot.
>The cards are all put into a box and the kids are allowed to pick and choose, make their own decks and play each other.
>All good for about a year
>One new kid turns up, wow'ed by the collection.
>New kid steals the whole fucking lot while friend takes the kids away for prayer.
>Friend doesn't run church events again.

I'm not religious, but damn that must have stung him. Also CCG players seem to be scum in general.

Yeah the first books were actually good. After book 9(?) it got weird. I think i stopped reading them after 12.

>Someone always gets salty over this for some reason
Hmm, I wonder if that's because some people have low tolerance for idiocy?

So you two are okay with people throwing a tantrum to get their way.

Cool, I hope neither of you ever play in the same game as I.

They are allergic to themselves?

Just throw a tantrum. You'll get what you want at least

Pretty sure dignity is not something I can be given.

That's not what I said, though, nor did I imply it.

This. The friend needs to be punished for bringing him, anyway.

>implying grown adults should parent their friends

>it's not okay for someone to throw a tantrum until they get their way
True.

>Telling him to seat and watch everybody eat pizza because he had no cash is even more despicable
Is also my opinion.
That Guy is not getting his way because of the tantrum, but because I'm not willing to be despicable just to "parent" a peer and not reward problem behavior.

>some people have low tolerance for idiocy
Huh. I missed this the first go read:
>If there isn't one in your group, then it is you.
This is confirmed as pretty much pure idiocy.
Not every group has a guy that nobody likes.

>Not every group has a guy that nobody likes.
user, I have some news...

>despicable
nigger its fucking pizza
do you think he was going to starve if he didnt eat pizza with everyone else? why are you being so dramatic?

eating together is an important social dynamic, as the old adage goes, breaking salt and bread. you can't hold someone in close confidence if you've never eaten with eachother.

so you're stupid and overdramatic
gotcha, thanks for sharing

eating together is an ancient form of bonding, to eat separate is an affront and not a courtesy to someone if they are to be equals socially.
only in a caste system is it natural to eat apart in a household.
also, it's just one slice of pizza, nigger.

>why are you being so dramatic?
"Despicable" might be a grand term for it, but user picked it and I dug it.
It's definitely more of a dick move than complaining about being the only guy who has to sit and watch the others eat.

>it's just one slice of pizza
I know, right?
I don't know why that other user is getting so dramatic over it.

>user, I have some news...
Is it good, everyone?

>eating together is an ancient form of bonding, to eat separate is an affront and not a courtesy to someone if they are to be equals socially.

So let me get this right:
>Guy turns up unannounced
>Doesn't coordinate it with the GM despite the GM hosts, provides snacks and coordinates ordering pizza
>Rolls a character that doesn't fit in the group
>Not even an original character
>Provides a background story flatter than /a/'s latest 2D waifu
>Game is delayed half an hour because either their character sheet is incorrectly filled (or they have been cheating on their rolls or worse)
>They ruin the flow of the game by treating it like it is video games
>Consequently does stupid shit and has a quick-save mentality
>Throws a tantrum over not getting pizza (and it is pretty heavily implied that the GM has been forking out all the expenses so far)
>Is thrown a bone in the sense that character is locked up and they have to play another character temporarily
>Does the exact same stupid shit that got their first character locked up in the first place
>Won't leave until cops are called
I'm repeating that last one for emphasis
>Won't leave until cops are called
And you think this is a guy the group wants to bond with and consider an equal??

Yes.

It was just societal pressure that forced him to act that way. I'm sure he's a good guy and had no evil intentions.

Well, you are retarded.

No u

I feel a little bad posting this in a "that guy" thread because it's a buddy of mine with a problem I'm pretty sure can't be completely helped but I have a player who keeps having full-blown, medically certified panic attacks during our game when things get tense, hyperventilating and tearing up and going "I don't know" over and over for upwards of a half hour sometimes.

I'm no psychologist and I have no idea how to address the issue tactfully but I can tell at least one of the other players has gotten really tired of it. I can understand that, given that we all go to game night for something comfortable and fun, but I've seen the papers and it's something multiple doctors have seen him over so it's not like it's a cry for attention.

I'm honestly not sure if it was I or the DM that was that guy in this situation.

>Playing sorcerer in 5e
>Enchanter type, with twinned suggestions as the weapon of choice
>Start focussing more on either getting people out of the fight or just making them leave to do whatever random shit I came up with
>Bandits would hand themselves over to guards, goblins would try to join the circus, people were starting to get confused
>Start noticing we're levelling pretty slowly, but dm is new so I try to bring it up with him discreetly
>He says we haven't been getting exp because we weren't killing things
>I (somewhat) politely inform him that is not the case
>He (even less) politely disagrees
>After failed negotiations, I decide to play his game
>Next session, the other players are shocked at my newfound sadism
>Instead of using suggestion to remove enemies I instead use it to lock them down in increasingly cruel ways
>To some I told them to scratch their names into the cave walls with their fingernails, to others I told them to dig their own graves, one I told him to lick my boots clean
>The party had previously been inspired by my peaceful resolutions, and now they were starting to feel bad about executing mindless victims
>Eventually the DM brought it up, as he ought to have. I simply pointed out that we wouldn't advance if we didn't kill
>He tried to argue that it was metagaming, but I figured what sorcerer wouldn't kill for free power?
>The other players eventually came on board once they realised that was the reason we were clearly too low level for where we were in the campaign.
>He starts to panic a bit, tells me I'm supposed to be chaotic neutral and I can't just go powerhungry like that
>I cross it out and write chaotic evil

That was the first and last time I played a chaotic evil character and it kinda hurt me. That game went on hiatus for a while but in the end we convinced him to stop using the exp system and I stopped being an edgelord.

He needs to work with his psychologist to identify his triggers, share that with the GM and maybe the group, and try to play in a way that avoids them.
Alternatively, he could leave or everyone can tolerate it.

My default character is a NE drow.

I tend to play him as a self-interested, cocky fucker, with incredibly edgy motives, but light-hearted banter the rest of the time. He insults royalty and team-members, but does it with a grin and a wink so no one takes him seriously, up until the point where he kills the person who did wrong by him eight sessions prior.

It's a slightly edgy leaning, but I think I get away with it. 90% of the time he's just another character in the party.

You were the That Guy That GM deserved.
Not too bad in either direction.

sounds broken, you should return him to the store and get a new one

He was a dick for not awarding XP for "may as well be dead" solutions. You weren't That Guy, you were just a bit edgy.

Meh. I'd side with you but I also would lose interest in your character. Take from that what you will.

I start doing this only if their behavior becomes a problem. Once in a while, sure, you do your random nonsense, whatever makes you happy, but if your random nonsense is completely fucking the game over and wasting everyone's time then I'm gonna require you to explain your reasoning and why exactly the rest of the party isn't stopping you.

There are scummy people in any hobby, but I swear people that play TCGs are some of the worst for some reason. I don't think I've heard of any game, at all, where as much shit is stolen as TCGs. Whether it be MTG or Yugioh, shit is constantly stolen and people constantly cheat.

I would say 60% of that is the GM's fault and 40% is to blame on you.

As long as it all worked out in the end, it's fine, no?

I'm my groups 'that guy'

>I read the rules while the others ask constantly what they need to do.
>I have driven motivations while everyone else bumbles around
>I wrote up a backstory, created my own character and explained what roles I'll like to offer IC and OOCly while everyone else had to have their things made for them.
>When other players show a interest in something that isn't 'your turn to fight', I quietly encourage them to do it, be it actually trying the whole role playing thing or trying to pay attention to the setting.
>As a GM myself, I go out of my way to help the other players and make sure it's not the 'me' show.

Despite all this, the other players relentlessly accuse me of being a rules lawyering, godmoding prick and we only tolerate each other because we are mutual friends with the DM.

That is not a that guy, but I can understand why you are raising the question here.

And sorry to say, but unless you think up a good way to approach the subject, you need to do something soon!

>it's something multiple doctors have seen him over so it's not like it's a cry for attention.
I have a diagnosis too, and trust me, people with diagnosis are not above exploiting them. Just sayin'.
Like says, they need to talk to a psychologist and/or psychiatrist instead of getting fifth-generation hand down pocket psychology from equally broken people online.

I am not sure of the context but you said "game night" so I am presuming this is like an organised event with strangers around.

Your friend needs to stop going there until they have their panic attacks under control.

Instead host the games at home in safe surroundings with people they trust so you can talk them down every time the panic attacks acts up.

Inb4 "There is no GM other than the GM at the game night" because in that case one of your friends needs to start GMing for your other friend, or your other friend - the one with the panic attacks - will NEVER be able to play. Ever!

This. I was able to have plenty of fun with 4th Edition

>I think I get away with it
You don't.

>But even if you have a charisma modifier that is through the roof, why the Hell should an NPC do your every bidding just because you are a charismatic son of a bitch?

Curious, do you use Diplomacy/Bluff/Intimidate tables, or set random DCs?

We started out as a relatively good/neutral party, but players left and others joined and we've ended up more neutral/evil. My character doesn't really impede anyone else's stuff, and the only times it has were:

>when he was trying to turn a monster against an untrustworthy ally who was themselves evil and the monster didn't turn
>when he was trying to get revenge on someone who stole everything he owned and one of the other party members signed on with that person

It's a sandbox campaign, I haven't really caused much trouble or done anything edgy for the sake of being edgy.

Here's a short one

> That Guy makes an AC tank
> Refuses to tank in combat
> Complains when everyone else who has taken hits needs to take a rest

Neither really works in the context of minmaxers, but I mostly use tables but mentally adjust them as necessary.

So I guess the answer you are looking for is "gut feeling", but it depends a lot on what the player wants to achieve and if it is logical.

Rule lawyers hate me for it. I don't blame them, I follow the school of GMing where the story is more important than the mechanics.

I have one dude at my college and he just doesn't know it.
>Means well but can't understand body language.
>Runs a D&D game in the student lounge
>Doesn't know how to regulate speaking volume, talks way too loud.
>Runs "wacky" games in a system with so many house rules that it's unrecognizable as the base system (D&D masters edition).
>Roll 1d20 down the line
>Allows 40k orks, psykers, Cthulhu mermaid people, and stats below 0 all in the same party.
>Minimum possible social awareness. Shows me pictures of characters he writes about. Never said what he writes. They're all women with wings and big tits.
>"Oh they're sirens. Did you know THAT IN MYTHS THEY WERE SENT OUT ON AN -*reminds him of volume*- sorry impossible mission and were cursed because of their failure!?"
>Named his laptop
>Reason he runs only homebrew is because if he runs an actual system the characters can be overpowered and try to break the game.

Nice 5.

I think it's fair as long as you tell the players at character-creation that you're a DM that rules by his gut and you will abide by "does this make sense" rather than "b-but the rules say so!"

This prevents someone from being totally fucking assmad or blown out when they FINALLY hit level 6, 7, whatever level that they needed for their "build" to come online only to have you tell them you're not going to allow it and they literally wasted their time/should have made something different.

Sure, here's a That Girl story.
>GM decides to adapt a campaign where everyone plays a sort of summoner in a world where people battling alongside monsters they own is common
>GM's girlfriend plays
>Her creature is amazingly min-maxed and powerful
>Her character is min-maxed towards charisma
>All character interactions go her way because of her ridiculous CHA and the GM giving her whatever she wants
An argument between the two eventually soured the GM on the whole campaign.

Ah, don't worry, I tell my player's that. Repeatedly. At the beginning of every session.

Besides, I need to be inflexible, not rigid.

>quints of quints
This is my favorite type of GM as long as they're up front about it. Letting a good storyteller entertain me with the game is infinitely more fun than having it be derailed by a min-maxer who knows the game better than anyone at the table.

>LotFP one-shot
>Two hours after fighting a monster, the GM looks at his notes, goes "oh!," and says that he misread the ability of one of the monster we battled
>Says I should have made a saving throw after getting hit by one of its attacks
>Makes me roll, retroactively, for the effect
>Fail
>GM declares that my character, retroactively, was petrified and died two hours ago
>Point out that my character had made a bunch of important contributions to the dungeon crawl since then
>Specifically, I was the thief, and had spotted all the traps we had just spent two hours avoiding
>GM takes note of this but decides that the best way to resolve this is to make a damage roll for each of the traps since the room I had retroactively died in and randomly assign the damage to the surviving members of the party with dice rolls
>He says it's fair because he's rolling in the open, in spite of everyone's protest
>RETROACTIVE TPK
>TWO FLOORS FROM THE END OF THE DUNGEON, THE GM DECLARES THAT WE ALL ACTUALLY PERISHED AN HOUR AGO

Not at bad as some of the other shit here, but probably the most bizzaire thing I've ever seen in a game. It was his first time GM ran for our group, but he insisted he had run dozens of times before online. Coincidentally, it was also the last time he ever ran for our group.