Bastard Swords

Why is it that these things are weeb magnets?

Is it because of the d10 one-handed damage? The versatility of switching from one-hand to two-hand grip for Power Attack benefits?

Or just because it's "Exotic"?

Your pic is wrong.
it looks like a saw on a hilt.
How do you not scare your enemies looking at it?

You know what, you're right. I too am sick of the Masterwork Bastard Sword shit that's been going around.

Did the same thing for my paladin character. It helps that they had a Belt of Giant's Strength. For that sweet Bastard Sword and Tower Shield combo. None holier than she was

Context helps out too. When you are dispensing holy justice on enemies of the sovereign, you are free to smite a Vrock with a big fuckoff sword

Try playing something that's not D&D.

The same could be said for longswords in 5e. Since they are pretty much the same thing. Longsword's versatility and all. Longsword in one hand but bastard sword in two handed

I think it's the stats you mentioned. Why would you ever go with a 1d6 or a 1d8 when you can get a 1d10 with no penalties (and still get to use a shield), and in fact a benefit in being able to use Power Attacks two-handed? Forget the weeb part - if you can take it, it's hard to argue for anyone taking anything other than a bastard sword.

Then again, I'm a total faggot who insists on making uses of weapons like picks, flails, javelins, and scimitars, so maybe I shouldn't judge. I'm the hipster who can't stand using the popular weapon.

D&D weapon balance is crap if you go by their actual names. Why is a bastard sword 'exotic'?

Daggers should actually be good weapons and not shit.

I believe "short sword" to mean a sword like a roman gladius.

'Long sword' doesn't actually refer to what we might think of as a long sword, despite the are, and actually refers to arming swords or side swords.

"bastard swords" should be smaller than long swords, not larger

actual long swords are not well represented by any rules

Large two handed swords they seem to have a fetish for, but the sources I've read mention them being wielded more like a polearm than a sword. They usually depict them as weighing 30 pounds or something, but actual large swords intended for battle and not ceremony were closer to 9 pounds.

carrying anything larger than a sword you can wear at your hip would be uncomfortable while traveling on foot, would be hard to use in confined spaces, and would get you strange looks in town. Back holsters don't actually work.

This is why my LG Fighter packs a set of javelins and a short sword should his Polearm prove inefficient for the situation. Lost his javelins trying to escape being handcuffed by guards.
As of currently it is an ongoing campaign, in the Curse of Strahd setting. The DM has made some liberties of changing things around. If people want, I can storyteim. Just give time for me to write it out.

Because closeted weebs had to move to something else when they got ridiculed for katanas.

>Prologue

Our story starts out with three characters receiving a vision from a mysterious old lady in our dreams, telling all three of us to come to Barovia. Maybe in this land, our characters may find our redemption

When we started off, we had a grand total of three players including myself. The cast in the beginning included, more came in later on.
Cassius, the LG Battle Master Fighter, played by yours truly
Sin, the CN Ranger, played by "T"
Sutra, the CG Parrot Totem Warrior Barbarian, played by "H"

Cassius was just given orders by the Lord's Alliance to clear out Werewolves attacking the nearby merchant caravans, they captured one of the werewolves and got information from them. So he mustered up his men and headed out. Maybe this will be his chance to validate himself as a hero like in the legends, after having lost so much in his life. Once this mission was good and done, he planned he would go home and raise his niece/adopted daughter (It's complicated). Resting easy was going to be a lot harder than he expected. When he and his men entered the woods, all that awaited them was an ambush. Cassius called for a reatreat, this was becoming a slaughter. After riding far enough away, it seemed like only he had survived. So he got off his horse and had it continue riding off, leading them away from him. From there, he continued... to run into the unknown

As for Sin and Sutra, they were already a bounty hunting group. They were resting one day in the woods and woke up to absolute silence, they were no longer in the same place they were before. They looked around, and saw my character running. Cassius warned them of the dangers and asked why they were out in such a dangerous area. Not the most jovial of introductions, but the three of them continued in the same direction until they came upon a dead man with a note, which we picked up, and the huge ominous gate. When we approached the gate, it seemed to open by itself, beckoning us to enter.

I don't really understand how using bastard swords is a weeb thing.

I know there's a sort of heroic romanticism around them though. The archetypal fantasy hero wields a sword too long to pair with a shield but too short to look cumbersome and awkward. The bastard sword kind of fits that mark.

Mechanically, has it right. It's almost always the best available weapon at chargen for a strength-based melee character.

>'Long sword' doesn't actually refer to what we might think of as a long sword, despite the are, and actually refers to arming swords or side swords.
>"bastard swords" should be smaller than long swords, not larger
>actual long swords are not well represented by any rules
You're retarded. A D&D longsword is a historical arming sword, a D&D bastard sword is a historical longsword, and a D&D greatsword is historical greatsword. Of course, all of those have other names and such, but there's no sword that's left completely unmodeled by the D&D ruleset.

That said, D&D is shit and I can't comprehend why people would willingly use it for anything.

>Why is a bastard sword 'exotic'?
Bastard swords aren't exotic, the Katana is named Exotic Bastard Sword in the game.

That's it. I'm sick of all this "weeb magnet" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Bastard Swords deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine Bastard Sword in Germany for 10,000 Euros (that's about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my Bastard Sword.

European smiths spend years working on a single Bastard Sword and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.

Bastard Swords are thrice as sharp as Japanese swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a Daisho can cut through, a Bastard Sword can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a Bastard Sword could easily bisect a samurai wearing pieces of wood for armor with a simple horizontal slash.

Ever wonder why Japan never bothered conquering Medieval Europe? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Knights and their Bastard Swords of destruction. Even in World War II, Japanese soldiers targeted the men with the Bastard Swords first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Bastard Swords are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Bastard Swords:

(One-Handed Exotic Weapon) 1d12 Damage 19-20 x4 Crit +2 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork

(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon) 2d10 Damage 17-20 x4 Crit +5 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork

Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Bastard Swords in real life, don't you think?

tl;dr = Bastard Swords need to do more damage in d20, see my new stat block.

>Bastard swords aren't exotic

Pathfinder stats them as Exotic. The only reason I can think of is balance. They're pretty strong, so you need to dedicate a feat if you want one.

>Chapter 1: A Village in Despair Pt. 1

After we have passed through the gates, we see a small town in the distance and headed towards it. Cassius, upon hearing wailing in the town, immedietly rushed towards it to see if anyone is in danger. In the mean time Sin terrorize the ever living shit out of a poor family with kindness. Cassius, finding the origins of the wailing coming from a grieving mother for the loss of her daughter to a mysterious being known as "The Devil". Cassius agrees to find this woman's daughter. Sutra in the mean time finds things called Dream Pastries and rolled a 1 on his save so he is a drooling shell of a man for an hour. Cassius firefighter carried him for most of the duration. It didn't take us that long to find the local inn. Sutra's unconsious body still got more action than Sin did that night, but a man in the corner asks us to help escort his sister. The Devil himself had set his eyes upon her, so it was our job to get her to a safer place. Pretty chill guy.

Eventually Sutra's drug haze wore off and we scooped him up, we rested up and Cassius bought manacles at the nearby shop. The shop keeper still thinks it's for lewd purposes. Eventually we head to the Burgomaster's manor to find it in poor state. Once inside, we met the woman of interest. Ireena Kolyana. Immedietly upon figuring that the Burgomaster had passed away but has yet to be buried, Cassius declared we must get him to the church at once. Earning him some respect points from Ireena.

The priest at the chapel was a bit of a secluse so we would need the assistance of a friend of their at the Inn. Our fourth party member. Sin and Sutra asked around, last person they spoke to was an odd woman. Captain Teresa Bulkan, cleric and sailor captain. With that, all of us traveled to the chapel.

>Why is it that these things are weeb magnets?

Because you're hallucinating, they're not. They're just more efficient than the alternatives, so people use them.

You may need some time off Veeky Forums to realign your perceptions with reality.

>Chapter 1: A Village in Despair Pt. 2

Things were bad there too. Pews were destroyed and a voice coming from under the floor boards calling out to his "Father". Cassius immedietly questioned the priest here why there was someone under the floor boards. Turns out that his son was turned into some monster and the destruction here is the result of trying to contain him. He came back a monster when he went to the castle looming in the distance. In an attempt to acquire more information of the ongoing, Cassius made a promise not to hurt the priest's son in exchange for letting him speak with him. Cassius now haivng a cut on his hand due to the oath he made. He planned to honor this. Cassius tried speaking to the creature hiding in the shadows and making a deal. Using some of the blood from his hand and put it in a cup. If he gave answers, he would be given the cup. Did not work out well as it sent the monster into a hunger madness. Cassius tried everything to subdue him, using the manacles but failing, but in the end the son was killed in plain view outside when Sutra activated his Bird speed and ripped the poor boy's arms off before he evaporated into dust. He was about to escape, before his death he called out to his "father" to save him, reaching towards the castle in the distance.

The son was dead, some may even say the priest's son was dead the moment he went into the castle. In the end, Cassius felt as if he failed in his oath. Despite doing his best efforts to not harm them, it was out of his hands but he felt responsible for it. The priest, in his massive depression, would not help us bury the Burgomaster. Luckily Teresa managed to acquire a holy book to that deity and would perform the burial at "sunrise". Sunrise in this land is simply just "Not as dark as night time". Can thank the everconstant overcast here. Sin, Sutra, Ismark, & Teresa slept outside while Cassius and Ireena stayed inside the chapel.

Curse text limits!

>Chapter 1: A Village in Despair Pt. 3

They would not be able to rest easy as an immense mist rolled up and showed an army of the dead surrounding the church. Seemingly unable to enter, but there was a singular, unique, looking wolf that analyzed the group before leaving. It wasn't long before wolves jumped the divine protection of this place and attacked the group. The wolves themselves were not the most dangerous things there. After we dispatched the wolves, a floating sillouete appeared and eerily gazed at us and looked at the chapel. Sutra would not have this and flug his greataxe at it, critting it but seemingly doing nothing to it. This being, took the axe out of it, broke it in half and whipped it at sonic speed towards Sutra. Knocking Sutra out in OHKO, throwing him through a gravestone. Behind Sutra's unconsious body, landed a raven with green eyes on top of a gravestone. It's wings opened and squawked at the figure and the undead army. And like that, the mists and all of the undead were gone like Christmas Past.

What happened afterwards if what I ended up calling the "March of the Damned" as spectral adventurers of all sorts made a pilgramage to the Castle. Once night was over, so was the march. Now we performed the burial for the Burgomaster and traveled off towards the town of Vallaki.

Should I continue?

Might as well finish chapter one, leave the rest for some story time thread.

I don't see how this relates to the thread, but it's still Veeky Forums related, so whatever.

That was chapter one, Chapter two involves our group making an over complicated plan that we did not even use anyways. Ended up fighting some hags in an old windmill, and we even had a casualty. Will come back later to keep posting.

What weapon should be used instead of a bastard sword?

it's an old katana meme.

So the OP is regurgitating what was originally a katana pasta?

OP here.

I knew about the katana pasta, but that was not my aim. I was simply curious why this weapon is so popular with people playing "shonen hero" type characters, is all.

see what I said here:

>That said, D&D is shit and I can't comprehend why people would willingly use it for anything.
WotC's 3e cash grab (et al.) is shit, nut OSR knew what it was about.

In DnD 3.5 a bastard sword is only considered exotic if you use it one handed. If you use it two handed its considered a martial weapon.

This has to with it takes a bit of practice using it one handed.

since when are european swords weeb-magnets?

>calls a post retarded and then makes the exact same claims as the post they called out

No he didn't, he corrected the moron, and rightly so. A bastard sword was not shorter than an arming sword, it was called a hand and a half because it was in between the length of a standard arming sword and a two hander, and had a hilt that had room for two hands but was primarily for one handed use, also known as the long sword, so he was wrong as well.

>being this obsessed with """weebs"""