/srg/ - Shadowrun General

then sure, just like with augmented adepts you usually want to get no more than 1 combined point of essence loss. After that it depends on what tradition you want and what you want to achieve with your 'ware

I'm sending my group into a casino in St.Louis (just on the river's edge).
Anyone got any maps of casino's I could use? Preferably big gaudy ones?

Prison Mage user here. I read about chemical warfare user and wanted to give that a try, but didn't want to drop the mage thing... so... mystic-rat-mentor-spirit-clusterfuck using Bod for drain, wearing a drysuit and hosing people with Neurostun...

What adept powers do I take?

Any ideas to make a Mr. Gasman build in 5e more effective?

the one that's actually a dog is a bio-drone, in this case a dog with augmentations. IIRC drones cost more, but their armor is hardened, meaning they have no stun track and damage below their armor is ignored, though someone else should look this over, since my experience with drones is minimal

How do white noise generators affect ultrasonic vision?

It's not really hardened, but pseudo-hardened as drones and vehicles don't take stun damage, with the exception of electrical stun damage. So if the damage is less than the modified armor, it becomes stun and they ignore that as they ignore all non-electrical stun damage.

That they take that as physical damage and half as matrix damage.

I've got a series of floorplans of the Casino de Montréal if you wish. It's not in St-Louis, but it's right on the coast of St-Lawrence river.

the ability to resist toxins would be a big help.
possibly the ability to hold your breath for a long time.

ultrasonic vision is literally sight based on sound, similar to sonar. white noise generators are supposed to disrupt eavesdropping through the generation of backgrounds noise.

realistically these should not hinder each other, but for the sake of game balance they likely do.

it certainly looks big and guady enough. the fact that it resembles the tower of babel/ United Nations building is just a plus.
pls post.

Im starting a new campaign in Sans Frans and it looks like all of the syndicates have a finger in the pie minus the Vory. I'm looking forward to it.

Also and good books on the all the syndicates and how they operate in Shadowrun?

>* You have 1 new private message, titled 'Yo chummer, if this continues we'll have to destroy the Triad'
Hey, that's the decker's line.
>Syndicate edition.
>What is your experience with them? Are you in one? Do you have contacts in one? Did you make one of them hate you?
My experience with syndicates is thus:
>briefly worked for the David Cartel before shadowrunning career began
>under the employ of Antony Gionelli, robbed the vault of an Octagon Triad casino, killed all the guards and burned the whole place to the ground, just to stop their BTL distribution, at which point the decker said the above line because he'd stolena boatlaod fo drugs from them in a previous session
>under the employ of Knight Errant, flew to Hong Kong and shot up a BTL production facility controlled by the Black Chrysanthemum Triad
>while in Hong Kong, saved about 30 kids from being shipped into Rangoon by the Red Dragon Triad (this resulted in the death of 50ish thugs) and arranged for Gionelli to intercept a shipment of drugs and guns that would reinforce the Octagon Triad in Seattle
>to finish the job for Knight Errant, I had to assassinate a technomancer under the employ of the Thousand Lions Triad
>in the process of rescuing Saeder-Krupp 2 wageslaves, attacked an airstrip controlled by a no-name Burmese drug cartel; killed 10 of them, blew up a jeep, shot up the front of their barracks and left the survivors thoroughly traumatized
So, yeah, I've done more damage to organized crime than most cops have. And it's not even over yet, because one of the wageslaves we need to rescue is en-route to a casino in Rangoon where she'll be sold as a sex slave, so we'll piss off another no-name Burmese syndicate before the job is done.

I've requested to my GM that the first job we do once we get back to Seattle be for my old buddies in the David Cartel, because holy shit we've pissed off so many different syndicates, my group and I need to get on more syndicates' good sides.

Yeah, the dry suit from... whatever book that is gives a full chemical seal. Not sure what other stuff to add... Adept powers for stealth and toxin resistance sound valuable here...

In 4e there's Vice, and most likely there are books about this in the previous editions
don't know about 5e

4e's Vice is the most comprehensive that I know of, shouldn't be too hard to bring it into 5th

Ghost Cartels and Vice; they're both 4e books.

You're going to want to look into the Pueblo Corporate Council material if your in San Fran. they took it over soon after the end of the Japanese occupation.

I noticed Chummer won't allow negative qualities to reduce the price of Advanced Lifestyles. Is this a bug, or is this how they work in 5e?

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If Manhattan is the city of "Black Trenchcoat or fuck off and die faggot", then is Hong Kong the city of "you can run any style you want, as long as it's Pink Mohawk"? Is mainland Asia in general a good place to get one's Pink Mohawk on?

Thank you.

The Ares Cheetah in Rigger 5 is a robot with 4 legs that looks like a cheetah (can fluff as a dog).

Howling Shadows has rules for modifying animals with cyberware, but no prices in the first place (the German book has them, because Pegasus is not retarded).

The big difference is that drones are cheaper but easier to hack. Biodrones are expensive to make and care for, but have independent thoughts and are smarter than the dogbrains of your average drone. They can also be 10/10 doggos, which regular drones are not.

Rigging an animal sounds like an incredible act of cruelty, though.

welcome to Shadowrun. if the corp aren't grimdark then you're not doing it right.

Weird. I cant find anything that says that. What happened to San Francisco after Saito is a little vague.

I know, but god damn, this is heavy shit even by Shadowrun standards.

For some reason, I find Organized Crime a lot more... personable than working with the megas. For one, they're usually local; even if they have nominal ties to other groups in other cities, they're usually cousins at best and rivals at worst, instead of being subsidiaries and partners and stuff. And they're just as interested in screwing the system as your average runner, instead of going along and being a good little corp drone.

Sure, they're usually corrupt and amoral as fuck, but you can say that about a large number of the beloved career criminals we play on a regular basis.

personal mistake, Los Angeles is owned by the PCC. San Fran is still in the Cal Free state. however due to the loss of Saito, the cali is essentially devolving into a lawless region with no controlling party.

sixth world almanac. since 2061 for L.A.

Conveniently, Shadows of San Francisco just dropped less than a month ago.

>corps
>implying this isn't a runner making biodrones
>implying everything isn't shit forever

So Chummers, whats your top choice on qualities to buy ingame?

I have pretty high attributes and am reasonably competent during combat (~18 Dice with Assault Rifles and Machinepistols), so before i waste points on a ton of different skills, i thought i might grab some usefull Qualities.
So far, "Catlike" and "Sharpshooter" are on my list, but maybe you have additional ideas.
Char is a Cybered-Up Sammy with 4 Cyberlimbs (posted the sheet some threads ago).

FYI, i already have CyberSingularity Seeker and i won't be taking Redliner for quite some time due to reasons.

Unless they're sick and would have to be put down otherwise or something.

But yeah, I'll mull it over.

What are the best reptiles to make into biodrones? Or should I just use mammals but have cosmetic biomodifications to make them look like reptiles.

komodo dragons.

just as a subtle insult to the actual dragons.

I dont know why you'd think Hong Kong would lend itself better to Pink Mohawk. Or Asia in general.

The thing is, no place lends itself to one side or another. 90% of the tone of a place depends on your GM and the players. You choose how you want to run, not the other way around.

Expect for maybe Los Angeles.

Depends on your purpose. For a nasty combat drone I'd go with a komodo dragon.

Hong Kong is special due to how it's a mish-mash of different cultures and styles from around the world. Dunno much about the mainland, tho - from what I recall, it Balkanized to hell and back.

If you wanna get Pink af, you need to check out Cali-for-nay-aye.

Are there actually rules for those? They're not in Howling Shadows.

Plus, from what I know of them in real life, they probably wouldn't make great combat drones.

>implying dragons consider themselves related to komodo dragons and would be insulted any more than you are insulted that devil rats exist

>I dont know why you'd think Hong Kong would lend itself better to Pink Mohawk.
Hong Kong cinema.
>Or Asia in general.
Less corps, clean cops and general law enforcement, more syndicates, corruption and third world conditions.

It's moreso the name that's supposed to be insulting to them.

Basilisks are a metaspecies of komodo dragons, so start there for stats.

Wait what book has rules for those?

Also, just to make sure, you can't make awakened critters into cybercritters right? Even if they don't have any magical powers or aren't dual-natured?

Biocompatability is your best friend. Agile Defender is also very useful if your agility is high enough to make it a worthy purchase.

Core rulebook.

Already have Biocompatibility.
Agile Defender is usuall very nice, but I'm sitting on 7 WIL already.

As much as Agile Defender looks good on paper, I really have to second this motion. WIL is such an important stat for almost any character, given how it's your stun track, your full defense, and your defense against mental fuckery.

Okey, so other than that, what should I remember as a Rigger? What other Drones are worth looking into? What stats do I use as a Rigger and what skills do I need?

Which films should I use as examples to explain what Pink Mohawk and Black Trenchcoat are? I know quite a few films that work as reference material for Shadowrun (Blade Runner, The Raid, Dredd, Hard Boiled, Robocop, Heat, Die Hard etc.) but I'm not sure where they stand on the Pink Mohawk/Black Trenchcoat scale.

High LOG, REA, Pilot (Usually Ground or Air, not Aerospace), Gunnery, EWAR, and as much nuyen as you can possibly acquire, because drones are expensive AF.

Another note is that, as much fun as it sounds to have your own peronal mech that pastes HTR teams, murderbots are super-expensive. FlySpys and other surveillance drones, on the other hand, are invaluable.

Pink Mohawk = Kung Fury
Black Trenchcoat = Equilibrium

ITg is worth noting, despite the incomplete costs in howling shadows, what is there makes it clear that biodrones are well outside the affordability or availability scope of a base starting character.

A good example for Black Trenchcoat are Heist movies like the Oceans series, The Italian Job, etc.
Because they are 2/3 and more casing and planning and maybe 1/3 the actual heist

I thought of those, but I'd be afraid of using them as examples, because peeps just remember the humor beats and not all the prep and plotting and such.

Oh, and add Hardcore Henry to the "general SR examples" list, too.

>Pink Mohawk = Kung Fury
>Black Trenchcoat = Equilibrium
Do you have any examples that are more....well known?

Equilibrium is pretty Pink Mohawk itself, it's not just about aesthetic, it's about mindset. Black Trenchcoat is more like a complex spy drama, they avoid direct confrontation, and will usually join the corrupt government for the payout than the resistance

Make those two films known to you, you will not regret it. Well, maybe Kung Fury, it's pretty silly - but hey Viking chicks with machineguns riding dinosaurs.

A fair point. Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy may work better.

I just want a robodoggo man.

Pink Mohawk = Stylistic
Black Trenchcoat = Simulationist

Get a cheetah Drone and refluff it to be a big doggo.
Then get realistic features upgrades for him and ask your GM if you could have a xenosapient AI inhabit him.

Or just get a proper real Doggo.
Barghests are fun.

Eh, it seems too silly to be Pink Mohawk proper. As I see it, Pink Mohawk should be outrageous and take things to extremes but never break your suspension of disbelief. Like, Fury Road was Pink Mohawk, though I'd hesitate to use it as an example, partially because I don't think the original Mad Max was all that Black Trenchcoat so I can't use the whole series as a demonstration of the sliding scale.

How do you make this?

Arguably Fury Road is less Mohawk than Thunderdome.

>get a proper real Doggo.

Honestly, this. It's a robot made of self-repairing nanomachines that doesn't need to be directly controlled and can't be hacked.

Reminder that the range on a Barghest's Paralyzing Howl, which he'll use on every damn squirrel that gets onto your property, is 75 meters and that your neighbors will hate you for subjecting them to this.

Hrm. Bug. Multipliers weren't being saved on create. Will be fixed in a moment.

And by range I mean radius of course. On the plus side, all the squirrels, rabbits, stray cats, bratty kids and burglars will quickly learn to stay the fuck away from your property.

If you had to sum up 5e's Matrix rules in five words, what would they be?

a)
Get squirrel repellant Devices set up along your perimter
b) live a bit outside of the city, with no neighbors close to you.

An alternative to the Barghest might be a Hellhound (also in the core book).
Its basically an awakened 300 pound, coal-black, german shepherd variant that is commonly used as a guard dog by Corp Security.
And its immune to fire.
It also can throw fireballs with his mouth and has a INI of 10 + 3D6 INI.
Its a very good doggo and a very good boy.

the exact same crap again?

Just use normal tests, chummer

Hacking is for NPC's only.

Hm, I think things getting set on fire would be more worrisome than paralyzing howls. Also, I prefer the look of Barghests...or at least I would if CGL could remember that they're supposed to draw them as English mastiffs and not generic vicious dogs, god damn. Also, does anyone else find it a bit weird that the art for a Cerberus is of a 3-headed Rottweiler of all breeds? Shouldn't it be some sort of Greek dog?

But you also can't repair it if it gets damaged.

Pink Mohawk = Smokin' Aces (you'll know it when you see it)
Black Trenchcoat = Sneakers

Well, you can, it's just that it's not quite the same to go out and buy another one when your current one gets broken beyond all hope of repair.

You can get actual self-repairing upgrades.
>what is first aid?

Yeah you can.

Just train him to only set the right persons on fire.
Hell, that doggo has 11 on his physical track.
Just get him some armor from howling Shadows and take him along on your runs, like Dante from Dragonfall.

Pink Mohawk = Twilight (shit for plebs who can't be bothered to think)

Black Trenchcoat = Jacob's Ladder (layers upon layers)

But... But... But a cyberdoggo though...

Correct. No piasmabots for you.

...

Pink Mohawk: = Playstyle for mature persons who enjoy FUN and EXPLOSIONS

Black trenchcoat = Fedorafaggotry for mouthbreating wannabe-operators and tryhards who think overplanning arbitrary shit makes them somewhat "professional".

Better than it was, barely

Found the Twilight fangirl.

Acceptable unless you have ADHD.

Found the mountain-dew guzzling, overweight, cheetos-addict.

Found the tryhard fedorafaggot.