Did the Rubric of Ahriman also curse the Thousand Sons with eternal bad luck? Ahriman is still getting mindfucked after 10k years and Magnus is either jobbing to Khorne weapons or getting body slammed by the sons of John Cena.
Brandon Harris
No, thats just Tzeentch.
Kayden Diaz
Not!Necromunda is gonna rock.
Luis Powell
THREAD DEVOURED E V O U R E D
Jason Long
That's what happens when you play with Tzeench.
Lincoln Lopez
DOO DOO DOO DOOOOO
Noah Cook
Which list is better
Asher Carter
For Guilliman's Xenos GF!
Liam Turner
Anyone have the HH/Prospero paint guide pdf? wh40klib only has a small one with 4 legions. I'm looking specifically for the HH 1k sons colors, if anyone has that list of paints.
I'm a citadel shill so if you have that equivalent please share which colors they are, specifically.
Oliver Rodriguez
Can someone shill the various daemon chariots to me? I want to get some daemons chariots but i don't know which ones to get.
James Robinson
Blood Cannons are great. They effectively give all your close-combat daemons assault grenades so they can actually charge entrenched enemies.
Samuel Peterson
Yeah, its a shame they don't have their AOS rule where if they kill something in close combat they get a free extra shot though. Speaking of which, can skull cannons do any emergency melee in 40k?
Christian Gomez
cute drawing user, well done.
Joshua Allen
So what is the betrayal at calth game actually like? Risk lite or what?
Ayden Moore
Hellflayers are the equivalent of strapping dozens of power saws to a four-wheeler and then driving it through a playground at 120mph.
They're about as durable, too.
Connor Thompson
Nah, just something I saved, I wish I had worked on drawing as a lad.
Jeremiah Walker
They look damn cool. How often do they actually reach their enemies?
Brandon Ortiz
Whoever drew this is never going to get better at drawing hands if they never draw hands.
Charles Collins
They can, though it's pretty much just Hammer of Wrath and some swings from the Bloodletters riding it.
Isaac Cox
>Yvraine's tatas are big enough for her hands to rest over them
Angel Watson
Rate my list boyos.
John Thomas
Replace the russes for hellhound/melta dogs and add a chimera, run Emperor's Blade Assault Company.
Jordan Diaz
That Tau has saggy tits.
Henry Sanchez
How's the Dante novel?
Isaiah Wilson
So when does 8th edition happen, and are the nids getting an 8th edition codex soon?
Jacob Ross
Solid, but I would personally run two heavy flamers on my chimeras. Your'e getting them close enough to use the meltas anyway, and two heavy flamers can be a squad wipe pretty easily.
Logan Peterson
And rely purely on the lascannon fire to take down heavy vehicles? Or am I overthinking it?
Nathan Scott
Russ tanks aren't very good anti-tanks to begin with. Vets in Chimeras should be your main source of anti-tank
Nathan Richardson
I never play guard without two command squads. Consider running a CBG with just a command squad in it so your captain gets three orders.
Easton Mitchell
It's an illegal list. Emperor's Shield Platoon needs a Sentinel to complete the formation. Also you're 10 points over, also don't make the Lemans an HQ, just take them as Heavy Support choices.
Also with 4 Heavy Weapon Squads, you'll want protection, so you should take an Aegis Defense Line. Also with 4 Heavy Weapon Squads, you should get a second Company Command Squad so you can give all 4 Heavy Weapon Squads ignore cover. Also since they are prone to running away you should give one of the Company Command Squads a Regimental Standard.
Bentley Green
Depends on what you use to interdict them with.
As long as you keep terrain and models between it and the things you want to shred to bits beneath your spokes, you should be okay.
LoS blocking terrain is your friend, as usual.
They are fragile, though, so if your opponent manages to focus any real amount of firepower on them they will die.
Jack Butler
I see. I'll see what I can do for my LGS night this week. Thanks user
Could I rectify that by taking Creed/any guard leader character instead?
Matthew Nelson
Sanguine my brother
Samuel White
Guy Haley wrote it so take any of the Tyranid parts with a mountain of salt
Ian Harris
>movement stats Kill teamunda: armaggedon might actually be great
Carter Howard
You can ditch 1 melta from each Chimera and take a Flamer to save 15 points and also give you some added anti-infantry, or just save 30 points overall. Remember, unlike Plasma, Melta won't kill the model, and you can only fire 2 out the hatch.
Carter Russell
Nah, for the cost of creed you could just get another command squad. And technically with the Cadian Battle Group you can run as many command squads as you want. Also is right, you need a sentinel to run the ESIC. Just outflank it far from the enemy for an easy linebreaker point.
Jacob Hill
oh shit
might this be indicative of things to come? I would shit if they actually made regular 40k like this
Chase Ross
TFW Neophyte Hyrbrid had no shotgun
Also do you have more pics?
Camden Sanders
With any luck they'll include deathwatch and stormtroops.
Doubt it. The boxed games are relatively self-contained.
Lincoln Gray
I'll make corrections. And the LRBT aren't Hq choices
Justin Moore
Here's a way to make your list work better together.
It has more orders, more infantry that aren't running and just as mobile.
Christopher Turner
He can't run a battlegroup. That requires a minimum investment of 1 ESIC, not a single platoon.
That costs 1005 points at the barebones.
Hunter Jones
>exalted seeker chariot rhino armor, a bitch to build and paint but you can smash through swarms or run over dreadnoughts easily. can be put in squads. same notes for the other slaanesh chariots. a major down side is you might kill too much with hammer of wrath leaving your rider unable to attack
>burning chariot 100 points for one of my favorite heavy supports. torrent flamer or d3 half range lascannon.
Bentley Roberts
>Guy Haley wrote it So it's better than 99.9999repeating% of the shit BL has put out in the last 8 years. Got it.
Connor Green
Ditch the PCS Chimera to free up points for some special weapons. Toss Grenade Launchers in there, they work well with Autocannons. You could even bump those up to Missile Launchers if you like (65-15 (3 GL) -15(3 ML) leaves you 35 additional points). Put a second Regimental Standard if you want to move one of the CCS up with the blob.
Hold on, I'll post a fix for this too.
Jayden James
Nope, the only required unit is 1 command, you don't need to run any core formations. Granted your'e missing out on a lot of the buffs if you do this, but you really can just take a command squad as it's own detatchment.
Tyler Morris
Probably not most likely is to keep the games in a small area and limit how far can they move. But then again as an fantasy fag it wouldn't be so bad.
David James
The second CCS pushing up is a mistake because it's vulnerable and slow. Keeping both behind cover is important to dish out orders to the 3 HWS and the Infantry Platoon which would require 4 orders to be notably effective.
The PCS, the 2 Vet Squads and the Conscript blob go on the move to grab objectives and tarpit, while the PCS gives orders to the Conscript blob to Move Move Move and First Rank Second Rank Fire. Your fix will throw the synergy out of whack.
Jaxon Phillips
Post CSM, Scouts, and Orks!
William Flores
>and limit how far can they move nah, it's 2e
4" movement was your standard infantry movement value. You could either move 0-4" and fire, or run 8" and not fire. Space marines (and in necromunda, gangers with the skill) could remain stationary to rapid fire.
Fixed movement values are ALWAYS preferable to random ones. Save the randomness for the combat.
Bentley Gonzalez
Yeah people seem to speak highly of the Tzeentch chariot. Is it better to have the Exalted Flamer on the chariot or a Herald of Tzeentch and run the exalted flamer in a squad of normal flamers?
Camden Morgan
>Command: 1+ >Core: 0-3 per Command >Aux: 0-3 per Core
No, you need to take either a tank company or an infantry company to get the benefits of a Cadian Battle Group. If you mean you're running this as "My detatchment is 3 Battle Group Command choices." you're correct, but then why bother going for the ESIP since by it's own merits the best benefits from it are in the form of the ESIC? You may as well take a CAD.
Christopher Torres
To be fair nobody does nids right anyways, he just does them the least wrong
William Murphy
You can only fire one weapon with full BS if you moved, making two flamers rather useless.
Tyler Howard
it's better to have a burning chariot. regular T.herald on chariot is expensive and easily destroyed (75 point to buy i believe) while an exalted flamer on foot has to snap fire his weapons due to them being heavy. when i use exalted flamers i put them in squads of pink horrors for protection and sneaky shots.
Hudson Peterson
The point is to get a company commander with three orders without shelling out for creed. You run this, and then you run a CAD, so you have two CCS's with one of them giving out three orders. Or use this to get two CCS's with room to run a tank commander.
Joseph Kelly
IIRC both of the weapons on the Exalted flamer are heavy, so the only way to get any good use out of him is to put him on the chariot. A herald on a disc surrounded by screamers will probably be more durable anyway if you're worried about that.
Dylan Campbell
Can you give orders to a different detachment?
Logan Turner
I'm not sure you get that benefit when issuing to a CAD.
Jason Ortiz
They just have to be infantry units from codex AM as far as I know
Cooper Phillips
Revised choices Does anyone here play CD? Why do I never get any input on my lists? Do people not like daemon lists?
Austin Brooks
Read it carefully, in regards to the three orders buff, it does not specify that the ordered unit must be from the same detachment. It's actually the only buff that you can still use on guys from other detachments.
Kayden Scott
I did read it, but I'm still not sure. Not sure it would fly with other people. But if you really do get 3 and it's fine, that plus volkovs cane would be amazing.
Ethan Cruz
Is that an armor save of 1? wtf? Did they change armor saves since I haven't been paying attention?
Oliver Nguyen
You could theoretically run a battle forged army of ten company command squads. I don't know how competetive it would be tho.
Ethan Sanchez
So, this is the fun list I came up with. Will it do me any good? I want to include Moloc and make a kinda fluffy. I guess I could go for more points or drop a squad and change them to Assault Marines, to fit more with the fluff though.
Will this list do me any good, or is it garbage?
Jackson Thomas
Grav would be both scummy and effective against MEQ.
You an cheese your opponents while laughing about your fluffy build like the inconceivable asshole Minotaur you are.
Jonathan Gray
Either people dont play the army or are salty cause daemons are so OP
Isaac Adams
Datz da attacks ya zoggin grot
Jaxson Flores
Yeah, that would actually be fluffy, but I don't want to be that guy.
Jayden Jackson
No answer?
Nathaniel Hall
I made a list.
It's 10 squads of 4 Meltaguns in a Taurox.
It costs exactly 1500 points, and you jump out and vape something with BS4 and Bring It Down! or Fire On My Target! to get Tank/Monster Hunter or Ignore Cover, respectively.
It's hilarious.
Aaron Wilson
You're playing Minotaurs.
Your whole purpose in life is to be That Guy to Marines.
Dylan Martin
Each CCS gets 3 orders/turn in a Cadian BG, right?
Ryan Martin
W-well, I guess. But what should I drop for the Grav-cannons?
Parker Ortiz
Where do you guys make those lists?
Ryder Barnes
Here, here's my revision. It's a CAD, the platoon and things are broken up to better suit their needed roles.
As per what the user said about a CS giving orders to vets, you'd be better off using the PCS for the basic orders and giving your vets Tank/Monster Hunter or Ignores Cover. This list badly needs Psyker support though.
ADL has Ammo Dump because re-rerolling 1s to hit is handy without access to Prescience.
Vox Casters because you don't wanna not get those orders off, and even with Ld 9 a double 6 will make you flip the table.
Volkov's Cane goes on the rear squad so you can make sure you get your orders off on your HWT Squads.
Isaiah Wilson
Heldrakes are the weak link in all of these lists.
AV10 open-topped is pretty easy to destroy. Personally, I'm not a big fan of paying points for Burning Chariots. Exalted Flamers are a decent choice in the Warpflame Host, as they help provide some mid-field shooting and protection from assault.
Summoned Chariots are great though.
William Cruz
How do i deal with flying Daemon Princes as a SM player? They're too fast to ignore and jink saves are bullshit.
Gavin Turner
Really? I didn't think I had alot of anti air or horde clearing and they don't do a half bad job of either while being at an acceptable AV. What would you have in their stead?
Jacob Walker
Alright, so i guess i should grab a start collecting Tzeentcherino box to grab the chariot then? Do i need to get blue horrors if i want to use pink horrors?
Landon Walker
If you REALLY want to be that guy, bring a CAD of
Moloc
2x tac with gravgun + combi grav + DT of choice
Skyhammer Annihilation Force 4x Grav on 10 man dev squads Combat squad so you have 2x Grav in one 5-man and 2x Grav 1x combi in another.
2x Assault Squads, probably best as bare minimum. If you have points, go 10-man and combat squad so you can lock ALL the people in CC turn one.
Ditch Hunter, Whirlwind. Potentially the dread and tanks too.
I might suggest Honor Guard instead of Terminators, actually. There's actually a strange build idea I've had kicking around--rather than footslog or Land Raider some meaty Termie squad, why not stack your punchy dudes in a drop pod and let the Assault Squads and Grav Cannons hold off the enemy so they can charge turn 2?
Bentley Nelson
Correct but the point is you don't need that. You're rolling 3d6 so you're going to succeed on your order every time.
For added hilarity you could instead field 15 copies of the same command squad:
100 Points: Company Commander, Lascannon Team, 2 Veterans, Master of Ordnance.
You throw down 15 Basilisk shots and 15 Lascannon shots that will have Ignore Cover or Tank/Monster Hunter. Every. Turn. Remember that if you throw double 1s you save time and auto-pass all orders, and you literally will never have Incompetent Command because you'll need triple 6's to do so.
Let the fun flow.
Oliver Ross
At 1850 you could probably squeeze in a fort for them to hide in, plus some meatbag shielding/wyverns.
Jose Howard
hold your horses user. Most of those buffs only apply for issuing orders to other dudes within your detachment, and to spam CCS's you need to make each one its very own detachment. You still get three orders though,
Anthony King
Tragically, most competitive scenes have detachment limits.
Parker Sanchez
They aren't a different detachment. They're all in one Cadian Battlegroup FBD.
The only requirement for that decurion is 1+ command slots.
Wyatt Martinez
How bullshit is the infernal tetrach? I've got a game coming up soon against it and have heard it's total bs.
Adam Martin
Oh, and you can burn squad off that list and give each squad 2 Sniper Rifles and have your Warlord carry Kurov's Aquilla and conga line as many dudes together as you can to give your massive wall of paper-thin heavy ordnance Preferred Enemy. With 12 points to spare.
Wyatt Cook
Basically just replace them with the Heralds anarchic or Be'lakor depending on which list you're altering. Or maybe just add more Khorne Dogs to one of the Heralds lists.
A Baledrake is shit anti-air, and too easy to mitigate just by spreading out. If fliers are giving you issues, have Kairos shove the D up their ass OR convert a Herald into a Lord of Change and throw some witchfires at it.
Dominic Martin
It's pretty bull but it's like, a minimum of around, maybe, 600 points or so. Probably more.
David Wright
Your'e right, there's no upper limit to how many command slots you can have. My god....
Landon Jackson
"When an officer from this Detachment issues an order to a unit from this Detachment,"
It does not specify that it has to be another unit, it can be -any- unit in the Detachment. Including itself.
Logan Ramirez
Sounds quite disgusting. But then again, I might want to be able to pick up games too.
Aiden Moore
What point value? Budhet tetrad at 1,000 is pretty crappy since it has fuck-all for ground game and you don't have enough Warp Charge to summon much.
Tetrad at 1500/1850 can start getting nasty since there's enough points to fully load the Princes and bring a couple dozen Horrors to run around on the ground.