Infinity General: I'd plug her suit if you know what I mean huehuehuehue Edition

Yuriko is an Engineer which automatically makes her useful.

No, fuck off we're full. We already have one goddamn AI to remove, like hell we want to deal with another. Female Morats can stay.

If you don't like certain models, you can always just proxy them. Just be clear that you are doing so.

I want to get some infinity sluts to use as proxies in my Tau army, post slutty models.

Just look at this slut going to town on those noodles.

Mmmmm-hhhhmmmmmm

So I've been trying to get into Infinity because 40k sucks hard right now, but there's no local community for Infinity here. Holy dick this game is impenetrable as fuck to get into. Sure the basic rules are clear enough, but there are more special rules than 40k going on here. I wanted to use their armybuilder program to toss together a list after reading into the rules a fair but, but damn - there's a shitload to be learned before even playing my first game.

At least it's not battletech or something.

It's recommended to get some demo games under your belt before going full rules. Learning the rules by yourself can be a hassle, easier than in earlier editions, tho.

>I want to get some infinity sluts to use as proxies in my Tau army, post slutty models.
I understand this, afer seeing Infinity models it's hard to keep playing with GW's edgy garden gnomes. Just bite the bullet and start playing the superior game, also there's no model that could pass for a Tau (closer matches would be something like Yan Huo or Nomads REMS) and they would make the rest of your force look really bad in comparison.

You also taking Guilang? IF you're running vanilla, Keiotsu play a different role from in JSA. In JSA they make a team and the missile launcher/Yuriko are great upgrades who benefit from linkteam buffs. In vanilla they work as independent units, and without link team bonuses the missile launcher is total shit. They still okay in vanilla in a cowering round back role, for which purposes they're a little less fragile than Kuang Shi.

While there are more universal special rules, they are truly universal, not the 40k's bullshit of seven different special rules that are just a variation of a BRB USR. It seems a bit hard at first, but once you get into it, you understand all the armies at once, rather than needing to spend time scouring over all of the thirty fucking codices to just get a feel of which army does what.

With Infinity you have to start slow. This is why Op Icestorm or Op Red Veil are great - they are on 150ish points and they have a great set of missions you can play with a friend right away where they give you a laser focus on few new special rules every game while still keeping things simple.

Hello, Inifinity General!

This topic may have been discussed previously, but if so, I missed it, and will talk about it again.

So, the topic I wanted to discuss is playing Infinity via Tabletop Simulator.
The workshop for TTS contains 5 Operation Icestorm missions made by some dude. And it does not look half bad. Considering Infinity uses silhouettes, you don’t even need 3d models (and, as far as I know, 3d models are quite hard and time consuming to do). You just get the images of the models, or even just model art, and attach it to properly sized bases, sizing the images, so they properly represent the silhouette size.
The TTS Icestorm pack contains some building that look quite good. More than enough to fill a table.
I toyed around with it, and looks like it may work quite well as a long distance substitute for the tabletop (not the same thing, of course, but still).

So, did anyone consider this and abandoned the idea? Maybe I’m too optimisting,a nd it worked like garbage? Maybe there’s another, better way to play online everyone is too hush-hush about?

The biggest slut.

I'll go off the top of my head from slutty looking models I remember: Lizard Pilot, Uberfallkommando, Morlocks, Oznat, Maghariba pilot, y'know what? Basically all the T.A.G. pilots, Odalisques, Riot Grrls, Jaguars (those bare arms, whew), Kum riders (they even have an unfortunate name), Nazarova twins (Kum enforcers), Kum Chieftan, Daktari solo blister (it's a catgirl in a nurse uniform), speculo killer (because she's impersonating humans, she's got boobs), Tech-bee, Caledonian Volunteer (she'll be wearing pants soon though), and Asuras for that skin-tight goodness.

forgot to mention Moiras

So I started aleph this month with a Steel Phalanx starter, myrmidon box and a phoenix as my leader. Now am looking in to expending in to more, then 200pts. I have been told that a seraph and marut are essential and I should buy them asap, I would rather void the big boxs though. What are the 2-3 blisters that are essential to playing alpeh? I was thinking maybe about machon for specialist and some sniper like taucer or the myrmidon officer to have a CoC model for my phoenix Lt.

Or am I totaly wrong and other stuff should be bought. If the seraph/marut or some other box is realy super important, then I can try to buy that, but if it is possible I would like to avoid it.

Maghariba pilot isn't a sloot clothing wise, she's just sticking her arse out.

People are bullshitting you. Marut is good but not at all essential, and is actually pretty uncommon since the rest of the list needs to be built around it. Seraph isn't even in Aleph, it's a PanO unit.
From your unit choices I assume you want to play the Steel Phalanx sectorial? Marut is not allowed in that, so if you bought Seraph and Marut you would not be able to use either.

Your choices are pretty good though, Machaon is excellent and Teucer is good too, he gives you a more aggressive MSV option with his ability to shoot at BS20. Myrm officers are good, but you have 3 Myrm characters already so perhaps a different thing would be better. I've found Thrasymedes to be incredible for his price for doing objectives, but he comes in a box you would need to split with a Nomad player, since it comes with a Nomad unit. If you can't find a Nomad player to split with then the Ekdromos chain rifle hacker is a decent alternative.

You have already bought some very good units. Phoenix and the Myrmidon box would have been the first things I'd recommend if you didn't already have them.

>Seraph
It's not even ALEPH, Seraph are PanOceania. Just forget about that.

>Marut
Marut is a very good unit but far, FAR from being essential. Furthermore it's only for Vanilla ALEPH, Steel Phalanx can't take it, so be very careful about that since judging from the models you already have it seems you like the Greeks.

So whoever told you those things either doesn't know wtf he's doing or is willingly bamboozling you.

>What to buy
you're on the right track with Machaon and the Myrm Officer, and Teucer isn't bad either. There are no autoinclude or horrible picks in SP, you can make almost everything work. If you wanted to play the Marut maybe consider one of the Big Guys instead (Hector or Achilles) for the experience of playing with a murdermachine.

>Big Guys instead (Hector or Achilles)
>Big Guys
>no Ajax
user...

Nice thanks, no idea why the store owner told me to get mechs as soon as possible. I will go after machon, taucer and maybe get alke. She could link with the thorakites.
Dire foes are good boxs, from wht I heard, but totaly non avaible where I live.

>Maghariba pilot isn't a sloot clothing wise, she's just sticking her arse out.
That's just naughty Angel's fault, the color choice for her buttocks area makes it look like she's not wearing anything. He's the man that painted nipples on a heavy armored Wu Ming, what would you expect.

I don't like the idea of hector, seems too turkish to me. Achiles would be great, but I can't imagine runing him without Petrocles, and both of them and a machon is above the money I saved up.

Wait. There is a female wu ming? I though all of them are dudes.

HRL is a dudette.
Can't really see nips though.

Nah, there are no female wu ming.

That's just 2 extra rockets the guy stuffed up in his armor.

>no Ajax

eh I didn't mean physically big. Ajax hits like a truck but the other 2 are of another lethality tier altogether.

Trojans are not modern Turks, or even Turks from whatever historical period made your nation mad at them. Those guys were pre Constantinople, I don't think you've got much to worry about. Hector was a really cool guy anyway.

Don't lie to me, user. Those hips will snitch on you.

hector was anti greek, I don't like stuff that is anti greek. And when I talked about him being too turkish, I ment his looks. He looks very turkish and nothing like a Greek.

if you look closely the right boob has a highlighted nipple

>I don't like the idea of hector, seems too turkish to me
Well Troy was in modern-day Anatolia so you're not off the mark here. Really though just paint him some other haircolor, you're missing out on an exceptional unit (and a totally sick weapon)

I mean, they did invade his land and kill his dudes. I don't think I'd like Greeks either if they invaded my land and killed my dudes.

I think that's just lighting mate.

Troy was an ancient Greek colony in Asia Minor; Trojans were as Greek as Peloponnesian, literally the same race, culture and traditions, they have nothing in common to modern-day turks. Their war was nothing "anti-greek" too, just some pretty squabble over an overrated pussy, nothing unlike many other more storically-sound wars among citystates in ancient Greece

Also Hector was one of the best guys in the book, he's a total bro.

Well trojans were traitors, being going against the Law of good guest their forfeited their right to own anything. Plus one has to wonder if a non greek is an actual full human anyway. Now am not a racist or anything, but we do have to wonder, if maybe trojans were just some strange neanderthal or something. It could be possible, with them being evil and all. Plus they do not look anything like greeks, have you seen the murals they have? runing around naked, when it is not the time for it, women with exposed breasts 24/7, man with braids, when everyone knows that for man the only ok thing is either short hair or one single braid if you are Spartan.

>I think that's just lighting mate.
Of course it's not a literal nipple but a very suggestive lighting indeed

Bull shit. My grand father and all my teachers always pointed out that trojans were separate from Mykean ancestors of the Greeks.
Hectors was a brother of a thief and traitor, which makes him a member of family of theifs and traitors, and that means that he was a traitor and a thief.

>Plus one has to wonder if a non greek is an actual full human anyway. Now am not a racist or anything
Korean Aswang 2: Turkish Boogaloo

>Plus one has to wonder if a non greek is an actual full human anyway. Now am not a racist or anything
Oh man, I wasn't expecting anything on this level. This is fucking gold. 10/10 wog friend.

>Hectors was a brother of a thief and traitor, which makes him a member of family of theifs and traitors, and that means that he was a traitor and a thief.
Wait, I seem to recall hearing this tortured logic somewhere before. You been around here before, or is it just a common way to justify hatred of based Hector?

A weapon that big and it's not even a MULTI HMG? Yu Jing really hates the japs.

I am also interested in that. It would be awesome to quickly test lists and situations.

I must say I'm enjoying this new spinoff, quite refreshing after the old baltic-polish tirades

That Korean guy was pretty entertaining too. I'm liking all this new variety.

Do I understand Direct Template Weapons correctly in CC?

If a model makes a Move--CC Declaration, in N2 you could spray them with a template as they come in and suicide together. In N3, because templates are considered to hit all models in CC and it's resolved at the end of the move, you cannot spray template a model that moves into CC with you?

...

lol

>I don't like stuff that is anti greek
You do realize that the entire world is anti-greek right?

Pay debts

I see it now. The small dot. The madman! What was he thinking?

To me, what really bothers me is how it looks a lot more like a Spitfire than an HMG
regarding the current topic,

I thought Trojans didn't exist at all? Or, at the very least it was debatable.

That, and adds to the moot point that it's over the face of a modern Australian actor. It's like debating if Ancient Egyptians were light skinned or dark skinned when you're talking about someone who was cast that's in actuality half Samoan.

jesus christ

Nips are a different sectorial.

It looks like you are the only one.

Nothing has changed as far as templates and cc are concerned other than the fact that if a model with a template gets charged by a fireteam the entire fireteam gets hit

When will Veeky Forums stop pretending infinity has good looking models?

They're very hit and miss, IMO. Some look amazing, but others are meh at best or just downright bad.

It's kind of like people cherrypicking the worst 40k models for comparison.

When Veeky Forums stops pretending 40k is a good game.

As soon as you stop sucking dicks.

Such quality! I can totally tell the difference between these 4 weapons from across the table. And only 7 eurocoins per model too!

Not all are good, but there are many, just like with 40k, sigmar or any other brand anyway.

We already did. no need to pretend when it's the truth

Also, no switching, the Grecian Goatfucker is more entertaining.

40k is a shit game and most people in 40kg would agree.
Infinity has some gorgeous models and some awful ones. It's just the way it is. I find the realistic proportions make Infinity look better than 40k and other heroic games but that's my personal preference.
That said, I appreciate the inherent customization present in 40k and I think that helps draw people in and let them discuss it at length.

t. Someone who plays 40k a lot more than Infinity (due to playgroups) but enjoys both.

I know, right? If only my Unidrons could be so recognizable. Man, fuck the new CA weapon design.

I don't get it.

Those are very distinct weapons.

And that is a comparable price to every other game.

The left one is an assault rifle with a long barrel, The one to the right of that is an assault rifle with 2 barrels, the one to the right of that is an assault rifle with a grip and 2 weird balls on the bottom, and I dont even know what the fuck that thing to the right is.

Some guy was doing this a year ago or so and got bored due to lack of response IIRC. Maybe he's still here.

>Nice thanks, no idea why the store owner told me to get mechs as soon as possible.
Because he wants your money.

Were you around for old CA weapon design? They fucked it up in a major way for Unidrons by making half their weapons virtually indistinguishable, but that's the only case of things getting worse. Everything else is a massive improvement over the horrible dogshit that was 90% of old CA guns.

The alien designs going downhill I'm more inclined to agree with, the Umbra look like they're from fucking Star Trek.

Put your glasses back on grandpappy.

I just think people are some combination of stockholmed and sunk cost fallacy. When something is shit I either find ways to fix it or get rid of it for something else. I dropped 40K after 4th ed came out. I dont understand why people keep playing a game that is bad, they know it is bad, they know it is overpriced, they hate the company, etc. I guess it is like people playing D&D. Plastic is easier to work with, but I can't go back to those proportions or prices, especially after I figured out how to make recasts of parts I want.

This Seraph is swag as fuck but its not for Aleph.

Of course you can't tell the difference, most likely you don't even play this game and just came here to shitpost. And now shoo shoo silly goblin, back to your containment boards you go!

You're saying that it's easier to tell the difference between those 4 guns than it is to tell the difference between a bolter, flamer, plasma and meltagun?

Especially from the other side of the table.

difference is that models in this game have somewhat normal proportions, unlike Games Jewshop's garden gnome proportions and oversized toy weapons.

I can distinguish which are which from the thumbnails (granted, I'm familiar with the box and know what they are). Besides, for the usual 20% off you find in most FLGS and online shops you can usually get that for 6 bucks a model in real money.

What you really should be sarcastically complaining about is different packaging habits of CB.

Unique character models in a box of two. [at least Achilles has his butt buddy that he can pair with] Getting a box of three men + a marker where a box of four and a separate blister release would've been better. Models you might want to buy separately that are part of a starter, like basic line troops. Unusually hard to get exclusive models with optimal loadouts. Several boxes with uniquely useful character models of different factions where you'd have to get an actual friend who plays the opposite faction in order to not waste money splitting the box. A lack of conversion friendliness outside of the spec-ops models. ...

It's ok, I still love them.

look at this faggot, he doesnt into modular design

The old spitfire is superior.

What? No I'm saying I can still tell the difference because my eyes still work. Of course the gamesworkshop stuff is easier to tell what it is because it's exaggerated to fuck and back. How could we tell that guardsman has an empty hand if his fist wasn't the size of his torso after all?

So anyway how bout that new ayyar? Can't wait until I can pick one up.

>So anyway how bout that new ayyar? Can't wait until I can pick one up.
Would have preferred if he was firing both guns at the same time, but still a lovely model.

Yeah, the Ayyar has me pretty stoked. I've been looking forward to it for a long while, when it finally comes out I might even buy three. It's a pretty neat design overall, and the rules are amazing.

Also excited for the Zhanying breaker rifle (hacker I presume)

Having oversized weapons tends to help if your soldier is about an inch tall and you need to be able to tell what gun he has from the other side of the table.

So what you're saying is that they're all EXACTLY THE SAME GUN except with a different bit on the end, and you still need to be able to tell the difference from across the table?

You know you're allowed to go over and look at the miniature if you can't see the details from 5 feet away. I'm assuming you're not locked in place using a stick to push your figures around.

Gramps, stop yelling, you're scaring the children.

In my experience you'll very rarely field all the models in that style of Box at the same time due to SWC costs.

And even if you do, you just need to look a bit closer, and the board terrain usually means your opponent will be relatively close as well.

I suppose this isn't as much of a problem if your army only consists of maybe 10 dudes

>Having oversized weapons tends to help if your soldier is about an inch tall and you need to be able to tell what gun he has from the other side of the table.
that's because in your game there are swarms of anonymous mooks running around. In Infinity in case of doubt we just ask the opponent what are the loadouts, and seeing as armies are usually a dozen models total it's not fucking hard to remember a couple weapons.

So if a model makes a Move-CC action--the opposing model can declare a template attack?

Man that literally makes CC suicide against anyone with a template.

You know, as an older gamer, that cut his teeth on the original Epic, your argument is fucking hilarious.

You know how many times we played games without WYSIWYG and managed to not die from a horrible gaming related accident? Countless.

Infinity has like what...20 models at most a side? Around there? You can't ask your opponent what a model has in a nest, or a door kicking squad then remember?

>So what you're saying is that they're all EXACTLY THE SAME GUN except with a different bit on the end, and you still need to be able to tell the difference from across the table?

Makes it pretty easy to figure out what is different, unifies aesthetic design, and mirrors modern weapons as well. Long barrel = sniper, weird stuff= pitcher, big gun but isnt an HMG = spitfire. Pretty fucking easy. Then combine the fact that you can just ask for a courtesy list and it makes identification even easier. Also asking what something is, if your poor eyesight is hindering you, is a completely reasonable thing to do as well.

It's not like if the target hasn't a DTW it's any less suicidal, you still eat an unopposed close-range BS roll; that's why usually CC-focused troops have marker states or multi-wounds.

Also remember you can always declare move-dodge to evade the templates and start mauling the target from the following order instead.

lol, wait, have we been playing that wrong?

I thought if I did a move - CC order into someone and they declared a BS attack as i came in, it's a FTF roll. My CC vs. their BS

This one's boring, do the Greek Racist thing more.

Templates always hit if you are in range, whether you are shooting or ccing against it

In fact if you are in the reactive turn it is actually better to engage into cc if someone puts a template on your guy because engage is a dodgeaction

>So what you're saying is that they're all EXACTLY THE SAME GUN except with a different bit on the end, and you still need to be able to tell the difference from across the table?
It's easy because each guy looks different. It's not like a Spitfire guy is sitting in a group of 10 identical half-squatting pauldron holders.

Infinity is the sluttiest wargame

They can shoot at any point during your move, if they decide to shoot before you actually get into cc it's a straight roll for both of you

Eh, Kingdom Death has it beat here.

Kingdom Death is a board game.
Still from what I've seen Infinity isn't even close to be sluttiest when you have about a dozen different fantasy games with their version of "sexy warrior fuck ladies with big tiddies" running around.

If someone moves, then as part of their second skill declares close combat.

And their opponent declares BS as his ARO.

It's a face to face.