>30k TACTICA & TIPS What to include in a HH list, how to format it, what makes each legion special (crunch), tactics, Tutorials for Heresy-era minis and more pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLp (embed)
Thanks for the advice in the last thread user putting up the updated list just to see if there's anything else I can do with it
HQ Krole 150 pts
Centura Master Crafted Paragon Blade 105 pts
Centura Master Crafted Paragon Blade 105 pts
Elite Raptor Guard x10 Aquisitor 295 pts
Troops Vigilator Cadre x10 Aquisitor 270 pts
Vigilator Cadre x10 Aquisitor 270 pts
Prosecutor Cadre x10 Aquisitor 240 pts
Prosecutor Cadre x10 Aquisitor, Extra Armour 240 pts
Prosecutor Cadre x10 Aquisitor 240 pts
Heavy Support Caladius Tank 195 pts
Caladius Tank 195 pts
Caladius Tank 195 pts
Total: 2500 pts
Again, Centuras go with the Vigilators and Krole with her Raptors
Carson Parker
What's the best tool to file down the helmet ridge to turn 2 lenses into 1.
I'm not happy with how scrappy my first attempt is.
Luke Ramirez
honestly thats not too bad of a job personally I'd grab the finest nail file you can get clip the bridge and file in the gap with care
Joseph Reed
How strong do you think the augmented humans that were part of the Dark Angels Legion were ? Those like Luther, strong and experienced knights that were too old to survive the process of becoming an Astartes. Obviously not Marine tier, but perhaps faster reflexes and better constitution ?
Parker Kelly
>Planet Morningstar >Worship Shaitan
There's that good old McNeillain subtly.
Aaron Morris
Probably just a step down from normal marines so they can still keep up
Jack Gray
Is kraken missile Ligthning good in a Mechanicum force ? (I plan on buying one to put down armoured key target)
Adrian Stewart
At least he is busy shitting up League of Legends lore.
I dunno how you make that worse but he is off to a great start.
Josiah Howard
>Get paid to write a book about Magnus and the Thousand Sons >Spend half of it giving Perturabo and the Iron Warriors a loving blowjob
The man has it cracked all right.
Jaxon Reed
Is there anyone who DOESN'T dicksuck the Iron Warriors? The fanboys are quite vocal and obnoxious. Almost as bad as Death Guard.
Bentley Hill
>Spend half of it giving Perturabo and the Iron Warriors a loving blowjob How so?
To be fair they do only have 1 HH book about them.
Jeremiah Anderson
e-e-explain?
Lucas Price
>tfw umbra pattern bolters don't fit properly with plastic mkIII
Benjamin Gutierrez
> almost as bad as Death Guard Are... are you knew here? You must be. How else could you think ANY other legion fanbois are worse than the IWfags who have shit up this thread for the past 9 months.
James Wilson
Shaitan = satan. I think it's the Arabic pronunciation, though in Islam it can refer to devils in general rather than "the" devil.
Also, Satan's Vulgate name, Lucifer, comes from "morning star", the old name for Venus (the planet as seen in the sky, not the goddess).
So basically McNeill looked up "Satan" in a thesaurus and used what he found.
Jack Russell
I am actually, yes. You could say I am biased as I don't particularly like any of the traitor legions besides the Luna Wolves.
Jonathan Hernandez
I've been wondering too user, been wanting to try it to the custodes helmets. I would assume using a diamond/needle file would probably work, I'll test it later although I bet a vice would be helpful for keeping it still
Michael Barnes
>Luna Wolves >Traitors
Oh boy, he really doesn't know anything
Juan Rivera
I want John French and Graham to be forced to work together on the Iron Cage book.
Leo Edwards
Sssh user. The Luna Wolves all died on Istvaan.
Jayden Barnes
Yea and now it's the DGfags who shit up the threads
Alexander Ortiz
>he thinks Horus' legion weren't traitors during the HORUS heresy Newfags gonna new I guess.
Dominic Reyes
>wahh wahh, no one ever posts models they just meme >user actually post their DG >wahh wahh, DG anons shit up the thread Seriously?
Kayden Scott
nice try DGfag
go back to B&C
Cameron Edwards
Shaitan is Hebrew, to clarify. But the Satan is ha-Shaitan. He's Iblis in Qu'ran.
Brayden Peterson
Sons of Horus is their bitch name, I refuse to use it. But the others, petulant, jealous, petty and egotistical, even when tragic like Magnus. I just can't get behind them.
I do like sone of their captaons and support staff, but, if I can't back your Primarch then I can't rightfully play their legion, is my feelings on it.
David Jackson
I'd base Luther on Kor Phaeron's profile, given he's pretty similar in being an upgraded human but not a full astartes. Given Luther's probably a more skilled fighter than Kor Phaeron, but maybe doesn't have such a good life support system built into his armour, I'd probably go with: >WS5 BS4 S4 T3 W3 I3 A3 Ld10
Isaiah Price
Posted yesterday that I will be playing for 30kchannel on Youtube in a couple of weeks and I absolutely need feedback on my army list after watching the last couple of games where people get tabled.
Ironwing : 3500 points
>HQ Preator + Command Squad in tartaros terminator armor. Preator hs a paragon blade and iron halo, the CS has a couple of power fist and a chain fist. They'll be riding in a Land Raider Phobos
Damocles Command Rhino
>Elites Two identical Mortis Dreadnoughts with twin-linked lascannons and two hunter-killer missiles each.
>Troops Four identical Tactical Squads with melta bombs on the dergeants and riding in Rhino's with havoc launchers.
>Heavy Support Two Predator Tanks both with executioner plasma destroyers, side mounted heavy bolters and machine spirits.
Three Vindicator Siege Tanks with laser destroyer arrays and have machine spirit.
Two Leviathan Dreadnoughts with volkite nips, phosphex dischargers and storm cannons.
>LoW Typhon
There's 55 points left over and I'm considering armoured ceramite on my Land Raider and Leviathans, I usually play Ironwing very aggressively, thankfully my LoW was given permission to count as a tank towards the 50% of the list being of the tank Type.
The plan is for the Mortis Boxnoughts to hang back in case of flyers for intercept, if there are none lascannons for big targets and hunter-killers to pop Rhinos. Troops get dropped off as fast in the mid field as I can get them so I can start using the Rhino's light artillery on troops. Land Raider is to contest any deathstar that runs down my throat but I tend to avoid them all together and try to kill them from afar. Vindicators are good at killing AV 14 transports followed up by storm cannons and plasma preds mopping up whatever crawls out.
Did I cover all my bases well enough? I aimed for a lot of redundancy and want to provide a good game for everyone who watches 30kchannel battle reports.
Brody Sanders
>if I can't back your Primarch then I can't rightfully play their legion Are you roleplaying them or something?
Adrian Morales
Drop one squad and run 3-4 Pallas Grav Tanks to keep up the Custode armor theme while also giving yourself tank hunting ability.
Also give the Caladius tanks the TL-Arachnus Blaze Cannons.
Ian Jackson
Heh, last thread I advised him to drop the pallas grav tanks he had in the list for more caladiuses. Poor user can't win.
Christian Taylor
Kor Phaeron was literally a grandpa when he the Emperor came to Colchis, while Luther was in his 50-60's at most (conjecture assuming he found the Lion at about 25-30 and we know Russ was found in 826.M30, while Perturabo in 840, and the Lion was found before Perturabo) but still physically fit due to being a knight of the Order.
Zachary Morris
See I think he should keep the tanks for that armored goodness, but dropping one Aquisitor and squad for more fast AF anti-tank will help.
You're on the right track.
Blake Gutierrez
I really wish Custode HQ's could take Jetbikes, but I truly understand how broken that would be. Oh well.
Sometimes you just wanna go fast.
HQ: Legio Custodes Tribune w/ Praesidium Shield, Cyber-Familiar, Digital Lasers, and Paragon Spear 270pt
Troops: Legio Custodes Guardian Squad of 4 210pt
Transport: Coronus Grav Carrier w/ Extra Armor 140pt
Troops: Legio Custodes Guardian Squad of 4 210pt
Transport: Coronus Grav Carrier w/ Extra Armor 140pt
Fast Attack: Legio Custodes Agamatus Jetbike Squad of 6 w/ 2 Corvae Las-Pulsars 500pt
Fast Attack: Legio Custodes Agamatus Jetbike Squad of 6 w/ 2 Corvae Las-Pulsars 500pt
Fast Attack: Legio Custodes Agamatus Jetbike Squad of 6 w/ 2 Corvae Las-Pulsars 500pt
Total = 2500 points
John Wood
My feeling was the acquisitors provide enough mid-strength shooting to the list already (2 krak missiles and 4 TL autocannon shots per acquisitor will deal with light to medium armour very nicely) so the pallas tanks wouldn't add much. But hey, more opinions for user is all good.
Caleb Adams
No, I simply do not want a $100 model of some fuckhead I don't actually like. Do you play things you dislike, user?
Julian Gutierrez
>Doesn't acknowledge that those who stayed loyal in the XVI despite the odds took up the mantle of Luna Wolves once more instead of being the sons of shits >Can't admit that his favorite loyalist didn't have any traitors ever >Can't admit that not a single Luna Wolf ever turned traitor >Can't back their primarch So you don't want best space dad?
Ethan Kelly
DG unite
Samuel Butler
>>not a single [loyalist son of horus] ever turned traitor Well gee whizz user, not a single Loyalist of any legion turned traitor. Other than Lucius.
Dylan James
Doesn't Lucius sort of betray everyone though?
Zachary Baker
>bump
Carter Bailey
Lucius was never loyal, only to Fulgrim and himself.
Hudson Collins
Anyone got the audiobook for this?
Jose Gonzalez
In a vacuum? The engines wouldn't work properly.
Ayden White
Congrats on getting on that channel, big fan. How well do mortis dreads do against flyers? I haven't seen them in 30k yet.
Carson Nguyen
You guys are awesome! It's actually a tough call now, but I think I'm gonna stick with three caladius, the Aquisitors have really good dakka potential and the caladius is probably the single most versatile tank in the game bar none and will reliably remove anything this sisters struggle with
but thank you as well pallas user!
Noah Russell
Would be easier to critique your army if you listed the points of your units. Press look a bit pricey for what a sicarian can do.
Daniel Wright
Nice try, but best space dad doesn't have a model yet.
Hunter Flores
What about Iron Warriors and Death Guard fanboys then?
Aiden Clark
Works for me, just make sure you switch to the Arachnus Blaze Cannons on the Caladius. It will make them a whole lot better at anti armor.
Jace Hughes
You are, of course, referring to the Emperor.
Samuel Garcia
But user, Horus already has a model
Nicholas Scott
Yes, of course.
Caleb Johnson
But that's before he gets his chaos on, when he still looked handsome. He'll need another model for his new "angry goblin" look.
Logan Torres
You mean Abaddon, right? :^)
Jason Morales
>yfw it was actually vegetabilized Horus they rescued and took back to the Golden Throne after the Emperor used biomancy to alter his appearance
>yfw the Emperor died that day so he could ascend to godhood and leave his maimed favorite son behind on earth to be martyred on His behalf
Robert Peterson
no matter what they do to him, abaddon will always look retarded
Nicholas Russell
DG reporting in.
I'm bored so I'm trying some fancier shit on one of my Termies. I painted his flamer tank with a green metallic paint, like its a chemical sprayer rather than a flamer, then I used blue wash on the nozzle to make it seem like a chemical stain rather than soot. I added some small flecks of that GW mud stuff on his face ( I'm fixing his fucked up eyes later). Then I did a kind of chemical poisoned no mans land base. nurgle rot basecoat, that GW mud stuff but rubbed away in spots, then gloss varnish.
Oliver Collins
>yfw this is still all Magnus' fault
Dumb red bastard
Jackson Hughes
>putting a chainfist on your heavy weapon termie QuestionableMotive.jpg
Christian Martinez
I still think the chest backpack looks silly. Like, it's not exactly an obscure part, everybody that plays 30k will recognise it as a backpack.
Xavier Williams
It works, but you have access to Vultarax, which have less instant kill dakka unless you bring many, but are waaaaay more resilient and the only issue about them not killing a Spartan turn one is that they kill it in turn two. They can't explode, they have a 3+ against Autocannons, they can shoot all around them and are useful against both vehicles and hordes. Also, they can start on the tabletop as gliding FMCs. Just saying.
Isaac Smith
Since their has been some talk of the 16th in this thread, I was wondering if any of you are aware/know a couple of things in regards to what would have been assigned to their legion
What militia/solar auxiliary groups did they have? What were the mechanicum forces/Titan legion(s) were assigned? Unique allies?
Should we do this this for every legion?
Evan Ramirez
M8, I think your list is illegal because you have less tank than non-tank units. Praetor, Command Squad, 2 Mortis Dreads and a Leviathan Talon give 5 as opposed to 4 units with Tank type.
Sebastian Murphy
>IWs can only shit up the thread What has shat up the thread was plastic autism. How are the IWs the source of it? >Like three DG anons post their minis >Thread status: Shit Literally HOW. Maybe I'm not understanding what shitting a thread actually is. What would a quality thread contain? Of course I have my own opinion, but I want to hear an unbiased one. >John French >On anything Delet. I guess they would like to return to AL geometric memery class? >What about Iron Warriors and Death Guard fanboys then? Master race. Need a few WEs so we can truly be the meatgrinder bois. Unite in sadness :(
Henry Morris
Daily Reminder:
Post any completed writefaggotry you guys have, it'd be cool to get an archive of /hhg/'s own literature.
Command squad has a dedicated transport which cancels the squad out. Non tanks are the predator, 2 boxnaughts, and leviathan talon against the command rhino, pred/vindicator squads and typhoon. The requirements are met.
Jack Lopez
Is it bad I really love Titans with shit tons of D weaponry? Like in the Heresy we have the pinnacle of some tech just blasting the shit out of each other. I just want to see Turbo Lasers fucking everywhere.
I'm planing on buying a pair of Warhounds with three twin Turbo Lasers and a Plasma Blastgun or a Reaver with two Laser Blasters and a twin Turbo Laser because I think that equipment is just so fucking cool.
Andrew Richardson
Since Custodes bikes look like ass, I'm looking into possible replacements. Sammael's bike is an obvious choice, but I'm kinda worried it'll be too small. Normal marines already look fairly chunky on it. Opinions?
Kevin Kelly
>being so shit at your job you have to turn every conflict into a dragged out killing box
They have the Imperial Army for that. Why can't you boys be less fuck ups, like Horus, Sanguinius or Roboute?
Landon Lewis
Are the small aquilas in the FW etched brass set small enough to mount across a Cadian chest?
One of these is not like the others. Why do people pretend Sangunius was among the greats? He specalised in smashing shit with angry space marines, more akin to an Angron than a Guilliman or a Horus.
Brayden Moore
I'm trying to figure out a name for my Blackshield warband that would be as cool as Dark Brotherhood or Third Covenant and thematically similar somehow. You know how difficult stuff like this is. I've come up with a few but nothing that immediately jumps to me as particularly good:
The Unbroken Circle of (insert random name here) The Sundered Path Oathbound
Any ideas? I'm thinking of using Orphans of War or Outlanders for them.
Levi Bell
How about just going with "The Circle" ?
Christopher Bailey
DG, NL or WB lads
Noah Butler
>DG We have enough of them.
>WB Worst legion.
Ave Dominus Nox, brother.
Julian Long
You know the choice, brother.
Aiden Ross
> The Nine
Noah Sanchez
not bad actually
Luke Lopez
Anyone know can I get a torrent/video of Path of Heaven audiobook?
Zachary Collins
The Haunted Indomitable Coven Crew
Cooper Torres
Do it for Lorgar, brother
Lucas Fisher
The Gay Niggers From Planet Space
Joseph Walker
Honestly if Custode HQ's can ever take Jetbikes in using Sammael's as the base bike for it.
It's different enough that it looks amazing. Also will use finecast because the original metal one is a fucking brick.
Jace Wilson
audiobookbay
Jaxon Scott
Speaking of pic related >52606146, how would you convert some marines to make a unit of those guys? (Kor Phaeron's personal guard if I am not mistaken)
Bentley Williams
Woops, I meant
Jonathan Morgan
>>being so shit at your job you have to turn every conflict into a dragged out killing box Remember that time where the Space Wolves, the Empra's Ekssecushioners, along with the WS couldn't kill some orks, so they had to call the IW. Or the time Horus asked Corax to do the same job the IWs were routinarily doing and he complied and almost all the terrans died? Or the time when nobody in the UM knew how to fortify, despite sieges being one of the romans' strenght, so they had to hire an IW? Or the time the AL thought they could backstab Vhalen so he bisected their ship by ramming it, and exploded the thing so thoroughly Horus was forced to garrison his own marines and reprimanded Alpharius? The IWs are sent to do the jobs the others can't do.
Cooper Diaz
DG
Brody Evans
The Unbroken Circle of the Sundered Oath
Isaac Foster
What were the colors of loyalty/service directly to the Emperorh black, gold, or bare ceramite/steel?
Michael Ortiz
The Sundered Circle
Hudson Walker
Black means direct service to the throne. That's why the Emperor's Champion and Chaplains wear black. It's different to the golden of the Emperor's Talons, or the Bare ceramiteTM for Malcador's agents.
Jackson Morris
So Silver was for Malcador's servants? What is the reason for the gold/black split?
Blake Powell
>Bare ceramiteTM for Malcador's agents wait, is that why grey knights have bare armor? fuck I feel dumb for not knowing that
Blake Bailey
Grey Knights have silver armour to show their purity.
Josiah Baker
It means their duty is to the Throne first, and to their legions second. Picture Nemiel reminding the Lion he's still a subject of the Emperor. It's bare ceramite, user :^) Malcador's boys are black ops...but since soooooo many legions already wear black, they wear unpainted armour instead.