Infinity General: Sniper Transmitted Diseases Edition

There are two reasons the Gorgos is considered bad
>if you don't make one save against fire ammo, that's 3 wounds of TAG down the drain.
>Tohaa is so full of ridiculous over the top bullshit that anything that's only decent is considered trash.
It's a Seraph that trades super jump for AP on its spitfire, better supporting guns, BTS9, mimetism for its buddy and the ability to turn into a specialist with a spitfire after death. Gorgos is a pretty sweet deal, especially since Makauls can cover its approach with eclipse grenades.

Is there any use for the Greys?

>is there any use for inexpensive, linkable, smoke-chucking 4-4 ARM 3 units armed with T2 Rifles and AP HMGs

In vanilla? Yeah I guess, the T2 rifles are alright. Lay smoke, go doorkicking with the burst 3 shotguns and then set up some real mean suppressive fire. Don't expect them to last the whole game, but they can do some real damage while they're still alive.

In CHA, hell yeah. Put the AP HMG in a Volunteer link and fuck some shit up with your smoke throwing super HMG. Or use the T2 shotgun as filler for a Mormaer haris.

And you can link them wit a bunch of volunteers for a cheapo link with a pretty nasty spearhead.

>shouldepad

The Gorgos is a beast. Needs some support but usually way hard to take down.

1st, grab a symbiomate. Fire is bad. Being able to ignore all damage rolls except for crits helps remedy that. A symbio bomb is also an amazing toolset (stun, immobilize, isolation, damage, white noise, nimbus, and healing).

2nd, utilize TAG tactics. Use your superior mobility to force good situations. Know when to pull back from an attack run. End turns in suppression. Remember everything is in support of the mission.

3rd, utilize the fuck out of the Peripheral. Remember AROs cannot split burst, so force 2v1 and some is getting free shots. I prefer the LS variant since it can force mean face to faces with burst 2 with the option to spec fire. If there is a repeater, send the Peripheral after it. If your potential targets are weak, you can send the peripheral after separate targets while the TAG hoses others. Also have it watch the TAG's flanks. Hell get burst 2 damage 17 viral CC action if needed.

4th, bring at least a second hitter to keep your opponent off balance. A Rasail is great since they have the wounds and Peripheral to force ugly situations. A linked symbio trooper can also work.

5th, study your arsenal and use it to force bad decisions. The Gorgos has templates galore. If a fireteam is getting cheeky at range, fling the template flammenspeer. Up close, force your opponent to choose between eating a Pulsar or dodging face to face BS/CC attacks. If you have a bomb remember pheroware needs to be reset, not dodged.

Overall it's a great TAG, just a Tier below the TO, Avatar, Marut TAGs.

Tried making a list for fun. I feel I might not have what I need to kill hard TAGs, but I like these models a lot. How would you guys change the groups?

GROUP 1 6
TIGER SOLDIER Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, Knife. (1 | 27)
NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
PANGGULING Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)
SON-BAE Yaókòng Smart Missile Launcher / Electric Pulse. (1.5 | 18)
WÈIBĪNG Yaókòng Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)

GROUP 27
SÙ-JIÀN Heavy Shotgun, Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 54)
HÙSÒNG Yaókòng HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
CELESTIAL GUARD Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
KEISOTSU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
TOKUSETSU KOHEI Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)

6 SWC | 299 Points

You don't want an AD Lt because you will start your first turn in LoL which is really really bad.

You have a Kuang Shi Control Device and no Kuang Shi which are great order generators and might help you with the annoying 6/7 split you are running.

I have yet to see someone run an effective Smart Missile Launcher in N3 that didn't just cost a ton of orders to do something plenty of other models could have done for cheaper, swapping the Son-Bae for another Husong might serve you better.

You have no MSV which will make it hard to deal with camo (assuming you are a new player that is, flamethrowers and mines are great against camo once you get the hang of them) and I really don't think a sniffer is a good investment here unless you expect camo spam.

I guess I can run a Zuyong Liet or maybe take more Keisotsu to disguise a Lietenant?

Took the Kuang Shi for the smoke, but maybe I would be better served by 3 Shaolin monks?

The Rui Shi has MSV2, so maybe swap the Son Bae for another Rui Shi?

The sniffer is still a 6-4 forward observer that can sat lock. Since it has a repeater the Evo Remote gives it B2 if I run the Overclock program.

Overclock would affect Weibing and Rui Shi,

>Sniper Transmitted Diseases

Also fuck captcha's vague definition of what a roadsign is.

There's MSV in that list.

I redid the list with some of the feedback taken into consideration

GROUP 1 6 / 2 / 2
SÙ-JIÀN Heavy Shotgun, Light Flamethrower, Panzerfaust / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 54)
HÙSÒNG Yaókòng HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25)
KEISOTSU Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 9)
KEISOTSU Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
KEISOTSU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
KEISOTSU (Forward Observer) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 10)
SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)
SHAOLIN Chain Rifle, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, Shock CCW. (0 | 5)

GROUP 2 8
NINJA Hacker (Killer Hacking Device) Tactical Bow / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 29)
CELESTIAL GUARD Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
PANGGULING Hacker (EVO Hacking Device) Electric Pulse. (0.5 | 25)
GŬILÁNG (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Combi Rifle, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)
LÙ DUĀN Mk12, Heavy Flamethrower / Electric Pulse. (0 | 21)
RUI SHI Spitfire / Electric Pulse. (1 | 20)
WÈIBĪNG Yaókòng Combi Rifle, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16)
TOKUSETSU KOHEI Engineer Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 14)

5 SWC | 300 Points

The Rui Shi has MSV2, the Lu Duan has MSV1, I took 2 monks for extra smoke, the Guilang has a Deployable repeater to extend the range of my Ninja and basic hacker, and since I had a couple extra points I made the Keisotsu into forward observers.

I chose the Heavy Shotgun Su Jian because I felt with its high speed that it could take advantage of the range and AP rounds vs hard targets.

you're going to start in LoL, unless theres some rule about imetrons im not aware of

Gorgos is fucking solid. but symbio bugs and bombs on it, and use to to fire face fuck things

TO camo units don't have to start in hidden deployment, they can just be a marker. Normally I'd say it's a bit of a waste, but EI Aspects do make really good lieutenants.

total waste. 70 points for a marker, not a token. those aspects are super duper tough and it'll be pretty obvious what it is i think since its S6 people will think its either a sphinx or anathematic, and pursue it relentlessly

That's why you put the Sphinx on the other side while they're pursuing what they think is your main killer. And it's not like Ana is easy prey, she's unlikely to die in the first turn if you keep her behind something and have an Ikadron nearby. In my experience hidden deployment isn't worth losing a mnemonic WIP16 lieutenant.

If I wanted to go in for the alien faction with what should I start for my first 300pts?

Which one? There are two. Both have a pre-made 300-point box.

I'm in a writey mood, someone pick a qt unit and I'll write a short paragraph about how line trooper user helps them out some how. I'll do the first one that pops up.

Yan Huo

Maakrep or Fraacta.

Zondbot.

Yan-Huo gets it. Gimme a sec. I'm thinking...Yan-Huo gets hacked and locked up by filthy nomads when user the zhanshi goncheng helps her out.

Achilles and friends go fight the CA

oh didn't knew that. Well are both the boxs good?

Filthy Nomads.

You're huddled behind a wall monitoring your yaozao, keeping it behind the Guijia as it makes its way down the street, laying withering fire down whilst the most honoured celestial guard follow behind. On the roof above, you can hear the constant hiss of missiles, a glorious Yan Huo keeping the flank pinned down with salvo after salvo.
This should be simple. We have such firepower, what hope can those nomads have against the might of Yu Jing?

Your question is answered promptly by the crunch of metal punching through concrete, followed shortly by the absence of any more missiles. Did the Yan-Huo run out of ammunition?
"Goncheng user," you hear your commander crackle over your comms. "Our Yan-Huo has been hacked by a dirty Nomad. Go fix it."
With a sigh you scramble up a ladder on the side of the building, cresting the rooftop to see the Yan-Huo immobile whilst its armour is peppered by combi rifle fire, a pitched Nomad repeater blinking beside the colossus as it broadcasts its dirty trick. With a short burst of your combi rifle you riddle the repeater with bullets, letting you rush over to the Yan Huo and get to work.
"Don't worry, Honourable sir," You assure as you patch into the suits systems. "I'll get you fighting again."
"That's Ma'am, Goncheng." You hear a muffled feminine voice inside the suit say, giving you pause.
You were not expecting this, but another flurry of Nomad rifle fire snaps you out of your musings, and after a failed try, you manage to restore Her suit's systems to optimum levels.
Almost instantly the missiles on her shoulders rotated and sent a salvo of explosive death down to her assailants, letting you sigh with the satisfaction of a job well done.
You take cover behind a small ledge and go back to monitoring your gao-zao with the advance, when a message on your commlink gives you pause.

"Thanks for saving my life back there. Dinner at 9?
Xiùlán Qiáng"

Yes, certainly a job well done.

sorry about the quality, no editing whatsoever was done.

It's good, user. Do the other three.

Nice. Now do Uxia

Rui Shui is AVA 1

I'm newer to Infinity but man, so far it's tough to not make a Yu Jing list starting with a CG Controller + 4 Kuang Shi.

They've chain rifled, dogged, then chain rifled 10x their points on so many occasions, it's ridiculous.

My opponent is terrified of them.

Oyama for Yu Jing.

I have yet to figure out how to use him. Tried him offensively but close combat is so freaking tough to get to, rarely works.

I've tried him squatting defensively but with no real gun, points can be better spent somewhere else.

Anyone have any luck with Oyama?

it's midnight, so I think I've only got enough for one in me. Cue Fraacta

He's a WP14 LT option for JSA, which is something they're limited on.

I don't think he has any purpose in Vanilla.

>I don't think he has any purpose in Vanilla.

That's what I thought unfortunately :(

Thoughts on this list?

Wu Ming Fire Team
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GROUP 1 10 / 4
WÚ MÍNG HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 39)
WÚ MÍNG Heavy Rocket Launcher, Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 33)
WÚ MÍNG (Forward Observer) Boarding Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
WÚ MÍNG (Fireteam: Duo) Chain Rifle, Submachine Gun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)
WÚ MÍNG Boarding Shotgun + 1 TinBot B (Deflector L2) / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 33)
CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

GROUP 8 / 4
CELESTIAL GUARD Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)
CELESTIAL GUARD Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 21)
SOPHOTECT Combi Rifle, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
YUDBOT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3)
CELESTIAL GUARD (Kuang Shi Control Device) Combi Rifle + Light Smoke Grenade Launcher / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 13)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)
KUANG SHI Chain Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)

6 SWC | 298 Points
That's 18 Total Orders. Wu Jing would be my objective grabbers/door kickers. That fire team 'feels' mean but I haven't played fire teams yet :).

I assembled an Uhlans(which is rad af), two Fusiliers (hacker and missile launcher), and a Crabbot(which is kinda dumb imo). I have so many other things in various stages that it's not even worth listing.

>Crabbot(which is kinda dumb imo)

forgot pic,

and kek, but still... not a fan

Having one team that needs to run around and do all of the objective grabbing may be difficult. It seems like an all your eggs in one basket kind of thing.

Basically, if your opponent pops your FO and hacker, you're just done.

"Err...command? Anyone? user here, just wondering...where are you guys!?"
You did not sign up for this shit when you joined the 112 Emergency Service. Antipodes? sure. Bandits? No problem! But being left behind in some crater strewn shell of a suburb was not what you were getting paid for. At least you were behind friendly lines this time.

You pick your way through what looks to be an abandoned school, hoping you could find some sort of computer terminal or phone you could send a message through to your command when you saw it. There, silhouetted by the light shining through the massive hole in the roof was one of them. A jump trooper from the Combined Army, hanging limply over the teacher's desk and with one of her wings dangling by some sort of fleshy sinew.

Hang on, it's a she.

You poke the, what did the guide say they were...fractures? Fractals? with your shotgun, earning a pained groan from the trooper. Right, she's alive. You have a duty of care to her. You kick away the rifle and search her for any more weapons, tossing the pistol and knife away so you could work without getting shot.

"Err..right. Hello? My name's user, and I'm a doctor here to heal you. You understand? DOCTOR." you say slowly, taking off your back pack and opening it up.
"I can understand your primitive language just fine, monkey." You hear the combined soldier wheeze, a surprisingly pretty voice for an alien.
"Monkey? That's not very nice." you retort as you unpack a pair of scissors and a green whistle of Penthrox. "Besides, your army is the one with the red-faced gorillas. Here, suck on this pain killer." She opens her mouth to object, only to find a green plastic whistle quickly filling it whilst you attempt to open up her symbiont suit to assess the damage. "Right-o, let's see...looks like you have a few broken ribs, a fractured tibia, and is that...yeah, a puncture in your abdomen. Surprising how our anatomies are alike, huh?" you comment, keeping up the banter as you work. "And I must say, It's a very nice anatomy."
"You...think to flirt with your betters?" She wheezes, the pain killers doing their work and making her somewhat groggy.
"It's keeping you awake, isn't it?" You answer jovially, bandaging her chest to keep the ribs in place. Interesting, for such an advanced race you think the concept of underwear would be a thing.
You go to work on the other wounds, cleaning the puncture in her side with some benadine and rubbing alcohol, causing the fraactal trooper to hiss and curse alien at you as you dressed and bandaged it up.
"Just need to splint your leg aaand...done." You flash her a smile, eyes half closed from the pain killers. "You just rest there for a bit, okay?"
"Very...well, hu-mann..." She slurred. "Thank you for your...treatment. But if you tell any of my comrades what happened here, you'll die in...your..." And with a soft thud, her head fell back against the desk, the trooper sleeping soundly.

You toss a blanket over the snoozing alien and, giving her a final check over in case you missed anything - shoulder her confiscated weapons and head out the classroom, searching for a phone when your commbead crackled to life.
"...non? user? The bloody hell are you doing back here? We thought you were with the push!" the Caledonian voice spoke through the static, a welcome sound to your ears.
"Yeah, got knocked out and woke up after the aliens were pushed out." You reply, grinning with relief. "Err...could you send some guys over to pick me up? You won't believe who I just patched up."

>helping an alien
but why

Foamcore die tower clad in Hirst Arts steel bridge pieces. I'll probably add pipes and stuff to it, make it look like the condenser for a massive mostly-underground refrigeration unit.

Is the RPG finished yet? Anyone have a rip/scan?

Hippocratic Oath doesn't say anything about species, you just swear to help sick and injured.

amazing

What are some of the points limits for different game sizes?

Like small, medium, etc.

300 points seem to be the standard for ITS tournaments and general play

Smaller games are usually played at 150 and there is a ruleset called RECON that provides an ITS-like format that's really fun at this point level

200pts for small or quick games, 300pts standard size, 400pts are huge and rare.
150pts is usually entry level.

How does Ariadna, Haqqislam, Combine, and Tohaa do in low level games?

I was thinking of getting into Infinity and I can't decide which group to go with.

Too many eggs in the WuMing basket. Against a competent opponent, you will have serious trouble keeping that many impetuous alive too.

>those hips

>Ariadna, Haqqislam
Most of their stuff is cheap, so unless there's a unit number limit (e.g. Limited Insertion) they do pretty well.

Combine and Tohaa I can't vouch on.

Pretty much this is the idea. Was thinking of maybe having both deploy in marker state.

Ariadna is filled with low cost units, Haqq isnt far behind either. CA has tons of cheap order generators to fuel their expensive dudes. Tohaa work off of Triad fireteams so even if you arent taking the expensive options they will still be really damn strong.

Can't wait for the manga.
Scans?

Which group is more challenging to use? I've heard Ariadna uses a lot of camo, Haqq at bigger games use funky powers, but what do Combine and Tohaa do?

Why does she look like tohaa, but is part of combined army?

Ko Dali is a sepsitorised yu jing broad. The Fraacta/Maakreps are Tohaa that work with CA cause they have found out the Tohaa government isnt all sunshine and blowjobs.

CA is a lot like Aleph in having high tech elite units. Tohaa were the original faction to introduce fireteams and have a bunch of pseudo 2 wound units and bullshit bio hacking pokemon. Read the OP and check out the tactica.

hmm ok. Face looks kind of tohaish, but am no expert on asians.

Mostly its an excuse to make Kerrigan.

Speaking of Imp, how best to corral them? I've been running a monk, activating his Imp first, throwing smoke where they'll be then running them into it. Any other tips/tricks to keeping the Kuang Shi alive?

Also, Wu Ming :(. Too many points in that unit eh? That's too bad, I wanted to run a brick

I can't make up my mind as to whether or not I have it just right or if I fucked up, but the list has five ch infiltrators (3 to camo, 2 camo) and that frees up the initial orders to move the Marut and anything else I need up the board so that I can play aggressively.

But she doesn't look anything like a kerigan, neither the male or female one. they have those huge crests and the females always have covered faces, if I remember mass effect right.

Nigga, you dumb. Those are KROGAN.

There is no image macro big enough to amount of failure on display here.

>failing discover rolls

Ah ok, my knowladge of blizzard games is rather limited.

Double Link

No, that's actually pretty normal in terms of Wu Ming investment. I personally prefer a second FO instead of tinbot or perhaps Zhanying madtrap, but that's fine.

Maybe fit in a Weibing or Rui Shi. Shooting mods will be a weakness.

In regards to wrangling Kuang Shi you can deploy them further back so they end their impetuous in total cover. Do not put them right next to buildings or they may climb.

If you are willing to spare the command tokens, you can start with one set of KS in a core fireteam and switch to Wu Ming after impetuous phase. This may be risky if you are going second and your opponent is good at alpha strike.

>discover rolls
>not intuitive fire

I don't think you can have 2 fireteam cores.

Core and Haris. Where would he even have two Core links?

ooh my bad.

Minutemen and grunts.

Been putting together some objectives and painting this Yuan Yuan this week.

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Bastard Sword" bullshit that's going on in the Infinity system right now. Katanas deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.
I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Yu Jing for 2,400,000,000 Yuan (that's about 20,000,000 Oceana) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid Teseum with my katana.

Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.

Katanas are thrice as sharp as Pan Oceanian swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a Templar Sword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a T.A.G. wearing full Jotum Armor with a simple vertical slash.

Ever wonder why Pan Oceania never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction. Even in Campaign Paradiso, Combined Army Troops targeted the men (and women) with the katanas first because their killing power was feared and respected.

So what am I saying? Katanas are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the Infinity system. Here is the stat block I propose for Katanas:

(one handed weapon)
Damage 15, AP+EXP+Shock
+3 MOD to hit in CC

(two handed weapon)
Monofilament+EXP
+6 MOD to hit in CC

(dual Wielded weapons)
Nanoscreen
Monofilament+EXP
+6 Mod to hit in CC

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>Tohaa were the original faction to introduce fireteams
what the fuck

If Katanas are sooooo great, why are their wielders China's bitches?

Read the OP my nig.

Anyone have a Paradiso scan?

I'm looking to start Infinity as a few friends have done the same. One bought Ariadne and another likes the Nomads. After looking through a lot of stuff, the Overdron and Xeodron and other large models from the Combined Army seemed like my sort of thing. That in mind, I was wondering where a good place to start with the Combined Army, and the game in general, was.

No, but I did take phone photos of the Spec-Ops rules.

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I probably would have been better off typing all this shit out.

fuck off. Support the fucking company you goddamn tapeworm

....its all in the army builder....that is free by CB....