Hey, what is the best army for getting into 40k? I am not a huge fan of Space Marines and was thinking nurgle or dark eldar. Reposting from other thread
Alexander Morgan
Lo sticks, nigga.
Liam Wilson
Is there a mega/torrent of miniwargaming content?
Charles Ward
Death Guard is easymode It's like playing Chaos Space Marines that never die
Andrew Baker
>This is what Meatwad would look like in 40k
James Peterson
Tyranids and Orks
Christian Lopez
Tyranids with lots of genestealers and pyrovores.
Xavier Morgan
The best army is whatever army you most want to invest money and time into, because you'll be investing a lot of both.
Fuck WAAC.
Jacob Howard
Whats everyone working on?
This is my very WIP kitbashed librarian.
Jason Smith
Don't you go telling newfags to collect my army and further shit up its community with more unfluffy WAAC faggotry.
>muh Nurgle bikers >muh CSM with MoN
You all disgust me.
Easton Cruz
Whatever you want to build and paint.
99% of the hobby is building and painting, so if you don't enjoy that part, you're not going to enjoy the other 1%.
Luke Evans
Are thousand sons meant to be played on their own or supplementary?
Leo Perry
there are formations for playing them on their own
but they can also be played supplementary
Justin Stewart
I would never use nurgle bikers Okay I lied, I did convert nurgle bikers out of WHFB chaos knights but I only played one game with Chaos Space Marines in 6th edition while CSM with MoN is perfectly fluffy, although I would personally use Plague Marines over them. And fuck any fluff that states "these guys don't use heavy weapons". Heavy weapons are awesome and everyone should use them.
Hudson Cooper
>I am not a huge fan of space marines >was thinking nurgle
I suggest Necrons as your first army like everyone else. Marine stats, reanimation protocols, gauss weaponry, neat lore and easy-to-paint models.
At the end of the day, you pick the army that YOU like.
Not the army others tell you to Not the army you most expect to win
You make your choice on model aesthetics and lore. Found an army with both? You have a winner.
Don't be a dork. Think for yourself.
Elijah Gonzalez
looks fukkin rad. Love that hair-etical look.
Carson Powell
No,
Go pay for it you cheap bastard
Christian Evans
Please no
>inb4 major pyrovore buff in 8th
Charles Wilson
God I remember when Genestealers were OP
Jace Nelson
Pick the army that you like. I'm currently building a Thousand Sons army, and I'm having a great time.
Pick the army that you like the look of, because you're going to spend many hours building and painting them.
Lincoln Scott
If I wanted to buy content blind I'd play MtG.
Aiden Ramirez
you're a long way from 4th edition. >infiltrating beasts >first turn charge every fucking time >no overwatch >rending on hits, not wounds
And then the three Carnifexes reach your lines...
How times change.
Gavin White
>implying CSM with MoN isn't the fluffiest way to play The Purge
Jaxson Morgan
The best reaction I get for running carnifexes now is "Hey, this ought to be fun!"
Andrew Lee
And don't forget the Hive Tyrant they have stashed at the back watching the carnage unfold as your line gets torn to shreds.
Parker Nelson
Hey, for my Orks, 'fexes are fucking terrifying. Best option I have against them is mega-nobz and fexes eat them alive.
Jeremiah Green
Miss me yet??
Brandon Hill
I agree, so long as you're not being a cheesy shite by running it as the Death Guard list.
>"Hey, this ought to be fun!" A-are they implying it's like a shooting gallery, or are they wargamers with pure hearts and minds?
Jaxon Allen
>most practical and streamlined edition >most games played out of all editions
fucking YES I MISS IT
Eli Williams
Amen. That's why I went with Night Lords. I love the dark blue with the splash of lightning.
Zachary Campbell
Finally getting around to assembling/painting some harlequin bikes, though I'm getting a bit hung up on the colors. Going for dark blues/greys as the sort of base, and I'm not sure if bright blue or yellow would better complement that.
Ayden Ross
me too...
Aiden Flores
Reminder that AoS is a much better game and 40k will only benefit from becoming more like it
Jace Richardson
I miss you both every day.
Noah Kelly
A Naut for my Nobz
Isaiah Rogers
>Oops posted in the old thread: Which scheme would look best on tau? There would be really heavy weathering on everything
>Olive drab with black/yellow hazard stripes, oxidized metal >Yellow with white/black checker patterns, very rough corroded and rusted metals, oil stains, etc >dented brass armor with verdigris, steel metals, moss and vines everywhere. Practice NMM for this.
Aaron Reed
Also much more primitive
Andrew Brooks
AoS is not good nor better as long as it's the thing that replaced WHFB. 40k might benefit from becoming more AoS-like, but that doens't mean AoS isn't the stillborn child of Satan that should be exorcised from this plane of existence.
Michael Cook
Id rather play a dumbass game that's fun than a """"""sophisticated"""""" game that is shit
Jackson Allen
yes, because "buying and painting hundreds of infantry models just to have them blown to smitheroons by purple sun" was a good game
Jaxon Nguyen
I didn't say WHFB was flawless, but AoS murdered the lore and buried it in a shallow grave, and for that it will be forever unforgiven.
Nolan Ramirez
what is it?
Ian Long
I want to say the last one. The second sounds alright, but I'm not sure if there's enough space to have very good checkerboard surfaces.
The first just sounds like it would clash terribly.
Benjamin Sanchez
What do you people think of assembling? Just assembly not painting
I'm finding it a big drag, takes a long time and can be frustrating. Not fun like painting
Luke Rogers
Really? I find assembling the more fun and easy part.
Mason Myers
im the complete opposite and i enjoy throwing dudes together, changing their poses and equipment, coming up with neat kitbash ideas
painting is the horrible inevitable end to it and i find it difficult to get motivated to do it
Jose Cruz
>7E Tyranids
Juan Morales
>playing the 8th edition
Still better than AoS though.
Cameron Martin
>WHFB lore >everyone sucks Empire cock and they are all retarded for not using guns >Skaven are the evil bad guys who will win and have the shittiest fanbase
>Age of Sigmar >everyone sucks Sigmarine cock and they are all retarded for not making their own Sigmarines >Skaven are the evil bad guys who will win and have the shittiest fanbase and they survived the End Times
What's the difference?
Andrew Barnes
See
Got a squad base coated. I'm hoping to have them done by the end of the week. Then, I can add heads and shoulder pads.
Juan Gutierrez
dude
easy with the cheese
Adrian Bell
Why is barbatos molesting that poor gouf?
Nathan Allen
When did everyone suck Empire cock? The Empire was just the strongest human nation in the old world, but it was one amongst many. Other nations went to war with it all the time, and even amongst the 'good' factions many were stronger. A lot of stuff was told from the Empire perspective but that's about it.
In AoS there is rather a lot of taking golden Sigmarine cock at every opportunity however, and complaining about the quality of one part or another of the AoS fanbase is like putting two turds side by side and choosing which you'd prefer to eat.
Oliver Flores
>rather a lot of taking golden Sigmarine All I got was Khorne bitching about Slaanesh over and over
Chase Bailey
>What do you people think of assembling...takes a long time and can be frustrating >difficulty with assembling GW models...
Angel Garcia
I love assembling models most of the time, except when there's millions of bits per model. I get enough of that trying to build historical models.
Adam Garcia
I love assembling but I can't fucking stand painting, I usually leave that for someone else to do.
Carter Diaz
>even slaanesh, a demon god, just wants to make you feel good Why does everyone say w40k is so grimdark?
Carter Rodriguez
There's like, 5 whole parts man. I get lost after attaching the legs.
Robert Evans
I love mark III Space Marines but you can't deny it's a bit tedious when your basic infantry that has forever been legs+2 bits for torso + backpack + arms + gun suddenly has 2 bits for leg +2 bits for torso + 2 bits for backbag. I'm not saying I find it difficult, but it can get boring when you're assembling ten or thirty of them.
Brayden Carter
Some of the models are finicky, holding a position in socket a nuisance when a couple finicky bits involved at once
Kevin Smith
Depends on what the model is for me
If its something that gives me a lot of choice I love assembling, probably the reason why most of my purchases have been infantry because I love giving each of my dudes their own personality. It also helps if its a newer kit, I find older models to be a pain to assemble sometimes.
Im a really slow painter with shitty brushes so painting is a bit of a chore sometimes, unless Im painting something fun like a Nurgle Daemon
Samuel Hernandez
>30 of them I mean, I run guard and put together 100+ guardsmen without issue. You just gotta find some music or something to listen to while you do it and you're done before you know it.
Benjamin Edwards
is there a non-cancer way to run Riptides? They look really cool but I hear that they're anti-fun on the table.
Brandon Flores
Glue one part at a time, use that tacky putty stuff to hold other stuff relatively in place to get positioning right. Dear god be happy we are long past the days of pewter models that were shittily pulled out of molds and bent out of shape. Or plastics so poorly designed they never fit together properly.
Hunter Garcia
Maybe run one or two but only at 2,000 points.
Carson Watson
Maybe don't spam them so it looks like the only tactic you know is aim the uber gun at enemy and shoot. If the rest of your army is kicking their ass instead of just the Riptide, then they should really just bitch about it alone.
Nolan Rodriguez
Just don't be a faggot and bring 3 of them to an 1850 game and leave them at home for low point games.
Jonathan Baker
No matter how you run them, you're still running one of the best and most under-costed units in the game. The lowest cancer I can think of is:
- Run the Heavy Burst Cannon. Ion Accelerator is pretty much straight up better, and Str 8 Ap2 large blasts from anywhere on the map is a big reason why people loathe Riptides - Don't take Early Warning Override. Interceptor basically for free is another leading cause of Riptide Cancer. - Don't take Stimulant Injector. Riptides are survivable enough without Feel No Pain. - And finally, never, ever consider taking a Riptide Wing. It's pure, unadulterated cheese.
Logan Torres
So what if in 8th, they made imperial Knights into gc instead of walkers (cause vehicles all become mc) and made them t6 3+ with a 4++ on on facing (like current) with like 12+ wounds?
Literally any army could kill them so no one could complain about their shit getting nullified.
Would that make them balanced enough for all Knight armies to be acceptable?
Christopher Moore
Which army should I run that would be fun and fluffy against Imperial armies and Chaos marines?
Julian Stewart
I'm not sure if there is a "fun" way to run tau, since all of their tactics and gear focus on making the game unfun for their opponent.
Adam Phillips
Vehicles aren't going to become MC if they have any sense. And T6 is nowhere near enough to represent AV13 anyway.
Jonathan Morris
Fallen Angels
Carter Ramirez
AoS is trash, i played Fantasy just so i dont see the fucking marines but then they added shitty marines to Fantasy, messed up the rules and called it AoS. If you actually enjoy AoS and not just baiting then its a punishment in itself to be mentally challenged.
Nicholas Hill
For comparison a Wraithknight is T8, a Kastelan is T7. A knight is going to have to be a tad more than T6, especially since T6 can be wounded by a lasgun, and a Knight getting killed by massed conscripts sounds retarded.
Aaron Campbell
>Remove the knight and other garganutan cretures. Problem solved.
Michael Perry
t. Imperial Guard cuck
David Russell
I suppose I could do that with a nurgle theme, but then I'd have to wait until the Death Guard models come out. Shit.
Camden Hughes
Knights really aren't that big of an issue though unless you're opponent brings literally no/very little anti-armor.
Gabriel Lewis
My issue is more about "hey here is bunch of awesome guys, but they are irrelevant cos this giant stupid thing can stomp them into dust and they cant even harm it! yay!"
Jacob Jenkins
Then don't let them get into combat with it? Granted stomp could probably use a bit of a rework, at least give the models getting stomped a chance to dive out of the way.
Ryan Reed
iniative test as a save?
Jayden Lewis
Anyone have the SW:A pic of like 6 or 7 pieces of the scenery built on top of each other so it looks like a full refinary?
Jace Allen
to a certain extant that can happen with vehicles. Knights are only a problem when there's 5 of them. a single knight in a regular army isn't really more of a hassel than the tank squadron its probably replacing.
Hunter Baker
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Juan Diaz
The problem is that most people hate Knights because if you take 3-5 of them against a regular take all comers type of army, the tac army has a bunch of stuff that can't hurt the knight, and is basically just wasted, so all the Knights have to do is focus on anything that can hurt it and stomp the rest to death.
If it's t6 with a shit load of wounds, it doesn't invalidate half of someone's army.
Asher Kelly
No lie this game looks fun as fuck.
Nolan Ortiz
I'd have to check the rules again, but don't infantry save against being stomped pretty much the same way they save against being tank shocked?
Ethan Gonzalez
Thanks man
Daniel Morris
>if you like something I don't like you're retarded
It's a good thing you think so highly of your opinion, cause no one else does.
Logan Clark
No, stomps are basically free attacks at initiate 1 where you roll on a table to see what they do. You get D3 stomps and when you roll on the table, 1 does nothing, 2-5 does a S6 AP4 hit to every unit under a small blast, on a 6 all units under the blast are automatically removed as a casualty.
Blake Carter
That's more an issue with allowing people to take 3-5 knights than it is the knight's stat line.
Hunter Cooper
this makes me moist. Now I wanna buy the starter set just to get one whole set of the terrain. Fug.
Luke Anderson
I didn't even equip anything...
Daniel Hernandez
One point over the line sweet Jesus One point over the line Sittin' here at my paint station One point over the line