/swg/ Tarkin Edition

This sounds dope. What's the catch?

Here's what I'd do:

One of the starships is an old freighter (one of the many CEC models, maybe a YG-4210 or a YT-2000) which has clearly seen better days. She's been modified and refitted countless times over the last hundred years, and has few original parts other than her hull and her aging navicomputer.

The customs inspectors who impounded this ship listed her as a smuggling vessel, which is readily apparent by the existence of numerous hidden compartments (which have since been ripped open and cataloged by the Bureau of Ships and Services) and evidence of her transponder code having been edited and replaced over and over.

She is currently listed as "Lot 1138" on her manifest, having been given a new designation by the Empire for her journey to your scrapyard. But in her past, she flew under such names as "Jackpot," "Stellar Vagrant," "Ornery Vynock" and "Bull." The poorly-welded patch jobs and wide swaths of spacer's tape only add to her charm, in her own way.

And that's why it's so surprising when, once you hit orbit, a small flotilla of pirate vessels hails you and orders you to heave to and prepare to be raided.

You see, her past has been well hidden (or tarnished, if you want to go that far), but this ship was the last known vessel of Forino Sun.

I doubt it's intentional, but it was legends canon for a good three decades before Rogue One that the rebellion used mind-reading aliens for interrogation along with drugs since they didn't do torture, and in later years the imperial Remnant adopted similar methods

Oh, you don't know who Forino Sun is? That's rather surprising, knowing how well traveled you are. A century ago, Forino Sun was the scourge of the space lanes. He was a king among thieves, one of the last true pirate lords before improved Republic cooperation with corporate interests and later wars made such powerful corsairs impossible. And here's the kicker - his treasure, a vast wealth stolen from the InterGalactic Banking Clan and other conglomerates in the waning days of the Republic, remains lost to time.

And even though you've escaped those pirates - and how bold are they, to attack in an Imperial system!? - don't think you're out of trouble yet. Because that navicomputer is incredibly valuable, to the right people. To the few who know what they're looking at. People like Moff Smail, a self-centered and corrupt man who would stop at nothing to wrap his fingers around that treasure map.

So now you've got criminals, and bounty hunters, and the Empire after you - and you're wholly unprepared for problems of this magnitude. But imagine what that kind of wealth would do to your lives?

Your chances are slim, but it's time to set sail for high adventure - and find the Lost Fortune of Forino Sun.

That could legitimately be intentional. Rogue One and her associated materials were littered with recanonized references to older Star Wars tidbits and lore. Pablo Hidalgo's Rogue One: The Ultimate Visual Guide is like reading the highlights of the old WEG D6 sourcebooks.

This was all George's idea. Blame him.

Shit, I was just going for a more mundane, combat-light campaign, but that actually sounds badass.

You're reading too much into it.

They need to "dominate" the crystal to attune it, but after that, it's already ready to be used.

Anakin attuned to his crystal in his saber, which then passed to Luke who used it - it didn't "re-attune" to Luke. The crystal lattice is already structured in a way that it can be used in a lightsaber.

It's just an extra step in lightsaber construction that adds mysticism to the color rather than having vain Jedi go out to find the color they want.

You know what you have to do, user. Find the treasure, become a pirate lord.

>tfw you will never dominate a masochistic kyber crystal and make it call you master

Welcome to nucanon. It only gets shittier from here. The dumbing-down is expected coming from a company specializing in making mindless and clean entertainment for ADHD-afflicted 6 year olds.

Sadly, that sort of thing is the best Disney can do right now. When Disney tries to do something complex, this shit happens.

Lucas came up with this since TCW

Also *Lucasfilm

Ay, still stupid.

If you're autistic sure.

Ignore shitposters, let's talk about how pretty R1 was.

Picked up it of bluray sunday. I finally get to watch it, as soon as the missus has a free evening for it.

Yeah, crystals being sentient, living beings that need domination from Sith in order to be used by them sure isn't autism.

I don't disagree, but let's not pretend George was doing the franchise any favors post-RoTJ.

You're in for a treat.

Are you seriously suggesting that the Kingdom Hearts series' chronology is Disney's idea while Square Enix is commonly known for making overcomplex scenarios that are all over the place?

You're right, it isn't.

Bitching about it on an anomymous Mongolian spider-painting forum sure is, though.

How does the "living crystal" thing even work? Do they communicate? How do they respond to stimuli other than lightsaber witchcraft? How do reproduction, nutrient intake, waste ejection, and homeostasis work for those things?

It's the Force. They ain't gotta explain shit.

Explaining shit is how you get midichlorians.

They just "grow" and derive everything they need through the force

Midichlorians aren't even explained that much either. Star Wars is the wrong setting if you want the magic explained to a fine detail.

No, guys. This has to fit the narrative that Disney is ruining Star Wars. Why can't you get on board?

It's more that midichlorians were used AS an explanation. When people balked, it was retconned to be less "this is why people have the Force" and more "this is a way to measure how powerful someone is with the Force empirically."

Of course, the second wasn't really all that much better an explanation, but hey.

Are Edge of the Empire or any of those games any good? was thinking of starting a Star Wars table top with my group

>derive everything they need through the force
>Organisms can feed themselves using the Force
>Aing-Tii view the Force as a rainbow
The Aing-Tii must think it tastes like Skittles. I wonder what other flavors of Force cuisine exist.

Guess Zahn made this canon now

Better yet, have them be crystals and not fucking sentient lifeforms. Simple.

Is it called by name?

If so that makes me happy

We do not know if they are sentient lifeforms or not. But like all things like it, the living force is with them.

Yes.

>We do not know if they are sentient lifeforms or not. But like all things like it, the living force is with them.

I am REALLY curious about the new Thrawn book.

Is it any good?
What/who else did they canonize?
ART?

I used something like that before, an imperial governor who was a clone wars ace and massive spaceship enthusiast employed the players to find ships for his collection, mostly old stuff like a very first run Z-95 and a prewar LAAT/I prototype, but also stuff like at one point an X-wing (he had one preordered from Incom and it was obviously not filled, but he still wanted his shipfu, damnit)

I love that model so much, but alas, I am but a simple rebels only player with no one to play epic with.

It's good.

Some species are canon again: Makurth, Togorian, Ho'Din

Ship collecting or artifact hunting sounds like a fun idea for a campaign, something other than running drugs or killing shit. Just going around and getting ships for a wealthy collector. If you wanna take it a more direct approach, maybe the ISB requests the players help them with repo work for people hugely in debt and in possession of extravagantly pricey starships they bought with bad credit. Or, if you want a more lawless approach, old fashioned boosting, stealing starships and reselling them for exorbitant but under-market prices. The players build an empire of starship boosting.

But what about /ourmustache/?

>Solar panels
Sienar Strikes again

Another mustache man is in it instead

I had an old RP character that was an independent contractor for the InterGalactic Banking Clan, whose background was doing repo for ships like this. You can imagine the situations that you'd get into. It was pretty gnarly.

The name of her ship was "Hell To Pay." it echoed Uncle Owen's line. Pretty great.

The ship collecting was really only part of it, it usually was more or less an excuse for them to visit all sorts of outer rim worlds and run into all sorts of incidental adventures there

Replaced with a younger model called Eli Vanto, who teaches Thrawn to speak Basic. We'll see if he turns into Pellaeon.

Fun Fact: In the new Thrawn book, Imperial human racism is back, in part because lots of non-humans made up the Separatists in the Clone Wars, especially in the outer-rim.

>Repo Man in space
>all sorts of different parties hunting down some crazy Sith's old starfighter
sounds like fun

Huh. How is it we haven't gotten a Thrawn crew card yet in X-wing? What would his ability even be?

>Thrawn
>X-Wing
He'd be more appropriate as an Armada card.

And Palaptine isn't?

They could put him on an Imperial light cruiser, but it's probably too big for X-wing.

Thrawn is an officer aboard an assault carrier in the novel. I guarantee you within the next two waves you'll get your Thrawn crew.

Palpatine showed up in a Lambda in RotJ, so he has a closer immediate association with the Lambda than with Star Destroyers. Thrawn is more closely linked to Star Destroyers in the minds of Star Wars fans because Chimaera.

Tarkin's linked almost exclusively to the Death Star, but okay.

It should either be something where even when bad shit happens to you, you get an advantage (Like if Hux is Super Fleet Officer in X-Wing, Thrawn could be super Operations Specialist) or some more mind game shit.

>"Guess aloud your opponent's dial. If correct, smile smugly to yourself, take him out back, shoot him, and claim victory."

He's also pounded some ground in Rebels too though, In a notable way. And Tarkin is a card for Epic as well.

Who said anything about Tarkin?

He's usable in x-wing too

He is? I've been living under a rock. And that strikes me as out of place, too. Bigwigs like Tarkin and Palps need big ships to maintain their intimidation and cool factors.

He's in the Raider box

He is only allowed on huge ships and he's kind of overcosted for what he does so I can't blame you for forgetting he exists

Yeah, Range 1-4 and free focus is pretty good, but it only can affect smaller ships in Epic it seems a little heavy for 6. For an Action Hux can do that at range 1-2. but for 3 ships. You have more points in epic to fuck around with though.

I need nonsense wisdom for a half-assed ex padiwan pretending to be a jedi master to dispense, any suggestions?

...

>don't pet a burning dog

>There’s the doughnut and there’s the hole, and you should keep your eye on the doughnut… The hole is so deep and so bad. The doughnut is a beautiful thing.

>Remember, the living are just the dead on holiday

>The goose may fly, the fox may stalk, but only the pig hunts for truffles with his nose.

>you can observe a lot just by watching

>Man is just an animal trying to figure out how to kill time through his days.

>A man with one watch knows the time. A man with two is never sure.

>you have to look within yourself to save yourself from your other self. Only then will your true self reveal itself.

>The crystal is the heart of the blade. The heart is the crystal of the Jedi. The Jedi is the crystal of the Force. The Force is the blade of the heart. All are intertwined: the crystal, the blade, the Jedi. You are one.

What about an all-tusken-raider campaign? Would that even be able to get off the ground?

>The wind in the vase only cracks it open.

Life is a fairytale written by the force

>You see student, when halfswording lightsaber like me, you shall have perfect point control because of fear of severing hand

>raiding trade ships and sandcrawlers
>scuffling with wily Jawas
>trying to steer clear of Hutt thugs and local militia
>permadeath
>may only communicate through physical gestures and guttural calls

That sounds like it'd make a fun one-time evening of gameplay

Give your glove a phrik disc on the palm. It'll resist being torn to pieces by the force and you can have some manipulation of the blade. You can probably use a phrick gauntlet to give the whole thing a nice, solid SHOVE if it gets stuck with your forearm.

I can't imagine how that'd be useful unless you're in a duel and get into a saber lock. It's be a decent surprise, but probably a gimmick that'd only really work on a noob, similar to a spinsaber.

You'd have a difficult time of things off Tatooine.

Tuskens are smart, but don't know how to actually use much technology that they haven't made. They also aren't capable of speaking Basic for the same reason Wookiees aren't, something to do with their vocal chord structure. You'd have a cool party idea, but one that couldn't interact with anyone or do much of anything off-world without a droid assistant to interpret and translate for them, assuming they'd even know how to work a droid and not just break it down for parts.

I guess it's a nice hard counter to Poe Dameron?

Why did they make Tarkin look so much older in Rogue One than he looked in Episode IV?

They added a ton of extra wrinkles along the forehead and around the eyes and lips, and made the skin look more flushed and mottled with age spots.

Probably because most people remember him as old and with more details you avoid the whole mannequin uncanny valley thing

Or anyone using deadeye, which in epic would probably be reasonable expectation to see, or to trigger opportunist on your ships, or just cut down on the effectiveness of any aces or cripple combos from pilots like Garven Dreis or Esege Tuketu or possibly Ahsoka though I don't know in what order those two would resolve, there's a whole lot of situations I can think of where it would be very good but I think it comes down to a question of opportunity cost.

Good concept. Lame in the context of Rouge Uno tho. It felt like a scifi bauble

Perfect doujin material.

Not before Trioculus, you fucks!

What's the ideal size for an Imperial task force protecting a spacegoing factory ship like pic related? Big enough to fend off most threats, but small enough to not attract them in the first place.

The bust of Cushing's face they used to make the CGI was from the late 80s so he was a bit older than in ANH

The lighting

My god I just got shit on in the XwingTMG subreddit for suggesting that the Raider Corvette was also a wreck on Jakku (it was recently canonised in Thrawn). Bunch of fucking autists over there Jesus.

>subreddit
Why?

>Raider Corvette was also a wreck on Jakku
sauce on this or are is it just your pure speculation that there might have been a Raider on Jakku?

A few ISDs and probably a couple dozen smaller ships

>a few ISDs

If you mean Imperial-class, then that's much more than a small defense. A single Imperial-class, even a I, would be a match for a sizable fleet of smaller ships.

The real Peter Cushing looks unrealistic.

This is genuinely the most likely answer. Making him 100% perfect probably looked even more like CGI. There is no perfect answer.

I think you've failed to understand how Imperial warship doctrine works. They got ISDs out the wazoo, more SDs then they know what to do with. SDs better than BBs, CAs, FFs and all other kinds of ship. Only thing bigger would be a CC. This is the military force that built their military planning and records office on a beach planet and then stuck a couple of ISDs to watch over it.

For an actual serious military factory ship, a pair or singlet of ISD with TIEs would not be unheard of, plus associate escorts - depending on the nature of your factory and it's position either some light cruisers for more picket or patrol type duty, or maybe some lighter corvettes and gunships.

If you're trying to be subtle, you park it in the middle of uninhabited fuck all, and pack it with whatever the freakishly high number of TIEs something like the Arc Hammer can probably hold and just GTFO if the rebels come calling. Or if somehow the Emperor, Vader, the Admiralty or the Moff Council hates the guy running the ship - despite that not making any sense - then the CW era mothballs come out, a could of Victories or Gladiators and escorts.