/STG/ - Star Trek General

There is actually one with a red collar, the white signifies Command. For some reason, the WoK uniforms had 7 department colours rather than the usual 3.

death to the opposition

Interesting, I hadn't noticed that when I watched it.

Looking at the different colors I realized the ones I thought looked good were the ones that were too dark to let you see the ribbing easily, so I'd really just want a plain old collar of smooth fabric.

Other than that those are one of the best ST uniforms.

In fairness, if they split it like they did with STO's boffs, it would work better with the whole "identify someone's specialisation at a glance" schtick that the colours are supposed to be for.

>Gold => Engineering, Operations
>Blue => Science, Medical
>Red => Tactical, Security
(+Command and Diplomatic Corps somewhere in there)

They reused the WoK uniforms in TNG, only without the collar on a few occasions. Most notably in Yesterday's Enterprise.

>Shatposting is real

The memes are so real that the Tamarians probably have a proverb for it.

Shatner, his keyboard ready

Shatner, his smile wide
Takei, his face fallen

I bet the Iconians did this.

I feel like he's the kinda guy that just shitposts on Veeky Forums all day except for when occupying /an/.

Takei at goatse.

The whole point of the sequence was to show the Prophets how hitting the baseball would result in a different outcome every time. A bunt would do the same thing, but would lead to a relative handful of outcomes (somebody on the infield or else the catcher would get the ball most likely).

>yfw you realize he's a leaf

It doesn't look bad, honestly.

What a wonderful world.

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It's not bad, but the fact that there's no belt and the complete lack of a collar kind of throws it off.

I can take not having the belt, but the loss of the undershirt makes the Yesterday's Enterprise variant look bad.

Pretty sure that's cause they lost them.

They only found 4 in the run up to Undiscovered Country, yeah. The episode where Wesley makes his dad in the hologram was when they discovered they lost them. Personally, I ignore the lack of belt and undershirt in those episodes, and assume the swap to the jumpsuit was just to fuck with Picard and the rest of the Enterprise-D crew until the swap to the two piece TNG outfit.

we know anything about the next lockbox? my gut tells me it's tzenkethi but hey ya never know sometimes

>Also predicted economic instability, mass unemployement and massive income inequality violations by the 2020s
>And fedora-wearing edgelords

Maybe, but so far no genetic engineering or improvements on mankind.
This timeline sucks, we better end up with the midriff uniforms and agony booths!

The Agony booth will come about as an offshoot of VR technology. Just you wait

And the midriff uniforms?

They will be part of the counterculture that will develop against the fatculture the femenists are pushing.

Sure, we don't have the genetic supermen, but we have all the other ingredients, they just need time to finish baking.

Counterculture... or simply a case of all the fatties dying off early once things get really bad and society simply can't or won't support the medical treatments needed to keep them alive whilst still remaining hugely fat?

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The dream lives

Is Baseball doing well? I never hear anything good about it.

Or we'll eat them.

Why is Captain Janeway a war criminal?

Because she's a power-mad psychopath with delusions of competence and no one who can give her orders not to be one.

She's not really. She's inconsistent as all fuck, and she makes some really dodgy decisions (siding with the Borg, placing the prime directive over the good of her fellow officers). Had she been written better she could have been fantastic.

Allying with the Borg (defacto state of war between them and the Federation) and equipping them with weapons, let alone ones as destructive as they made, is definitely a warcrime.

Treason, maybe. Not a warcrime. Let's not forget that the Undine's baseline weaponry can kill planets. I think Starfleet would get on board with stopping that.

>baseline weaponry can kill planets

Star Fleet can also do this, just less dramatically and more time consuming.

>what even is a post-scarcity society

The original Enterprise could do this, given enough time.

Starships are no joke.

Kirk ordered it on one episode.

Long story short? She gave WMDs to the Borg, a "species" the Federation is at war with, knowing full well that they'd use it to attempt to genocide their enemies (Species 8472 in this case) for a shortcut.

Everything else she does that's questionable is really just icing on that particular cake.

Allow me to amend that with "Janeway DEVELOPED and then gave WMDs specifically designed to kill Species 8472 in return for a shortcut". As said, it may not actually be a warcrime, but it is definitely treason and crimes against sapient species.

And that's how she got that sweet, sweet admiral's pip.

Which is weird because the amount of antimatter used shouldn't have been anywhere near enough to produce a blast that big, but lolphysicsinstartrek

Still though, any warp-capable starship is technically capable of having its fuel or its power distribution media used to create ridiculously potent IEDs on demand.

Well, we know phasers are powerful enough to cut through a planet's crust. They could create enough thermal boreholes to render planets more or less uninhabitable to humanoid life. That same power could easily scour unshielded structures and even cities off the map.

And that's not even getting into the destructive potential of antimatter warheads beamed directly into structural weak points or command bunkers or any of that. If used aggressively, and against a target incapable of shooting back, a starship is a civilization ending weapon.

Fortress worlds (which we've never seen, but must logically exist) would be tough nuts to crack by conventional means, since all the weapons and defenses a starship has available would also be present groundside with the added bonus of having industrial scale reactors, replicators, and resources.

However... fortress worlds have the disadvantage of not being able to move at warp, and things like the Genesis device make shields and phasers a joke.

I can't believe we're still on the fucking Borg. You're a bunch of energy-budget plebs.

The Q did it. There you go. Plot holes solved. Fuck off already.

>Fortress worlds (which we've never seen, but must logically exist) would be tough nuts to crack by conventional means

We've seen them.

For that matter, we've seen a Fortress Universe in the hands of Species 8472.

It is, actually. There have been a lot of changes in MLB lately like the Cubs winning the World Series last year, so matchups are interesting again. MLB also has a reasonably priced legal way to stream every out of market game you want, unlike the NFL, so they don't get hurt as much by people watching less TV.

>Implying they wont die of heart failure even if we turned into a post scarcity society tomorrow

>TFW I don't have the money to freeze self so I'll be around when we make first contact with hot green alien women ;_;

Short of a full invasion force, I'd say Chintoka could have held out for the entire war

More talking about the Undine and Janeway, but hey, you tried.

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That was Mirror-Kirk, no? I'll freely admit my TOS knowledge is very limited.

Nope, main Kirk. It's the one with the two worlds who virtualize war and he does it to basically call their bluff, if I recall correctly.

General Order 24: Just fuck their shit up.
It also came up in "Whom Gods Destroy"
The one with the Space Asylum.

I saw in another thread an user saying having even 3 was silly, since standard officers don't wear their job on their sleeve. I think enlisted do though. Dozens of different job indicators.

Also, main cast in the movies only have like three different jobs, which is why it's even easier to not notice there being seven.

What this guy said In that episode, taste of armageddon, or something, this happened...
>Kirk and gang carry an emissary into a star system where two planets have been at war for several hundred years
>They arrive and note that places are looking really nice and not at all like some war torn shithole
>They are then informed that a missile attack commences and they detect not a single explosion
>As they go around asking about things they are informed that the Enterprise got hit with these missiles and blew up
>Kirk calls Scotty
>Scotty answers "lol, nope"
>Kirk asks "what the hell?"
>He and gang discover that the planet is engaged in a mock war where all who "die" are sent to suicide booths
>Kirk and gang get captured and the folks on planet try to lure Enterprise crew down
>Scotty smells something fishy and says no
>Ambassador Fucktard McSuicidal says they should just beam down because it's probably nothing
>Planetsiders try to blow enterprise up with some sorta sonic disruptors
>"I don't sense anything" -Ambassador
>Meanwhile Kirk and gang get free and start breaking suicide booths
>They get captured again and Kirk is held at gunpint and told to order the crew down
>Kirk just yells "General order 24" into the space walkie talkie and after the planetsiders wrestle the phone out of him, he explains that it means "Glass the fuckers, exterminatus now!"
>Locals are losing their shit and agree to let the irate Kirk meet their leader
>It's a computer, what a twist
>Kirk uses chair, it's super effective
>Wild computer has fainted
>On the other planet folks realize that the other computer is down and think the other guys are about to go for a real shooting war with them
>"Hey, guys? Could we talk this thing through?"
>Peace is declared and Kirk leaves ambassador lemming on the planet to iron out a peace treaty between the two people

I liked her the three or four first times I ran through Voyager, and after hearing about the complaints against her character (and writing) online, I headcannon that all her mood swings and bad decisions and moralizing is just the stress driving her further into a guilt-fueled depression

One way or another, that pip is to keep her out of the captain's seat.

Either they think the stress may PTSD her into killing another species, or they want to brush her shit under the rug and keep it from happening again.

That being said, she'd come home a poster child for Star Fleet idealism. SF has slowly become more practical and battle ready because of the Borg and Dominion, hurting their image, and here comes Janeway, a captain that damned her crew for the Prime Directive, picked up multiple aliens and taught them how to improve themselves, made peaceful contact with dozens of species, ad survived Borg space. Label everything in her logs you don't like as Classified and BAM!, look at our perfect NotAtAllABrainslug admiral.

It's hilarious how her bad decisions keep happening in the post-Nemesis novels.
Until they catch up to her.

It's ok user all those "cryogenics" places are pure psuedoscience run by scam artists so it wouldn't work anyway

Great episode to watch too. Also one of the episodes that shows what a great captain Scotty makes. Nothing gets by him.

Also the best line in the series.
>"Diplomats. The best diplomat I know is a fully activated phaser bank."

"Scotty, we want you to be a captain"
"Bollocks to that, I'm an engineer"
"But Scotty"
"No"
"Please"
"No"
"Well we're giving you the rank anyway"
"Only if I can still be an engineer"
"Okay, fine, jeez"

And that's how the Excelsior and later Enterprise-A ended up with multiple captains.

Where's the replay for Survivor? When I try and do it straight from the sidebar, Daniels just pops up and says "no fuck off, I'm busy"

Go to the list of missions, then pick the featured episode and hit replay button.
Or something like that.

Hilights?

Decided to visit a """""neutralised""""" Borg tactical cube with only a fucking Oberth Class for backup, then got assimilated and became the new Queen. Got rekt fairly promptly after that.

Seriously, what do you expect when you do the exact opposite of what Picard """advises""" you to do? Multiple times?

>Borg Queen
I thought we were talking about Janeway's mistakes, not First Contact's.

Yeah, pretty much. And I'm sure giving them all that borg/future tech didn't hurt her case either.

>he thinks First Contact's Queen was bad
You haven't watched any VOY whatsoever, have you? I envy you.

Pretty sure he's just making a point about the Borg Queen being a bad idea from the inception
I would also envy him

That's something I really appreciate about TOS films. All of the characters were promoted and reassigned. Fate had to conspire to bring them back together, rather than in to TNG movies where they're still together "just cause"

Yeah I mean they had a whole season about looking for the Xindi after the single-crew prototype of their weapon ripped Earth a new anus from Florida to Venezuela, and the second prototype, small enough to fit into the NX01 launch bay, was expressly supposed to be capable of destroying a small moon (and would have, if it hadn't been sabotaged), while the actual weapon was probably several kilometers in diameter at a minimum and was supposed to be able to destroy the entire planet in, presumably, a single short burst.

But even digging a trench hundreds of meters deep for two or three thousand kilometers in a few minutes is astonishingly OP.

I believe Archer also threatened to level cities at one point.

>doctor gave me a pill and my kidney grew back

you really haven't grasped the core concept here

Inception is full of bad ideas, but it's not part of Star Trek and it wasn't released until decades after First Contact

get out of here, Janeway, or I'm calling the time cops

Riker is flat out refusing promotion.
Picard wouldn't let Crusher go for the life of him.
Data is content where he is, with his one true father figure and best friend.
LaForge wouldn't ever leave Data's side if he could help it.
Worf -did- get reassigned to DS9 and fate conspired to have them meet in First Contact.
Troi knows Picard, and having the same councillor is pretty useful.

I think that's all of them.

I just rewatched Darmok. Fucking hell but when TNG was good it was great.

How can she be a war criminal when there hasn't been a war?

The Feds are in a state of war with the Borg. They have been ever since Wolf 359. Both the Sovereign and Defiant class were expressly designed to counter the threat the Borg pose.

>paraphrasing Gul Darhe'el

I like you.

Playing regular football, not american football/handegg.

Funny episodes of ST, and how this is one of the best (of the funny episodes anyway), go!

Most Ferengi-centric episodes

"they'll be no tribble at all."

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I hate you for reminding me that this was a real episode.

I did say "most" for a reason

Threshold is underrated as absurdist comedy.

There's been worse, see: