How does it feel, when the lore of your games is decided by a braindead mainchild going: "Man, wouldn't it be cool if vikings fought dragons"?
Colton Turner
I'm protected from their petty magicks by my enchanted C0DA gear.
Cameron Mitchell
>Destruction Edition Glad to see Alteration is being mentioned, the vastly encompassing school that it is.
Connor Scott
IsTamriel round? Does its people know it's round?
Leo Perez
>channeling entropy = effecting physical change Take your straw man shit elsewhere, faggot.
Aiden Cruz
Nirn might be, but based on the field of view over the Imperial City during the destruction of Umaril's soul, Tamriel isn't. I recall reading about an astrolabe that appeared in either Arena or Daggerfall that implies that at least some people believe Nirn is round.
John Sanchez
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James Sanchez
What if the Dreaugh are part of the Hist, which actually stretches far into the ocean? Think about it, they're both said to be from a previous kalpa, dreaugh and argonian both go through stages of metaorphosis varying between beast and humanoid. The draugh are also found only in the south of Vvardenfell and the south east of Cyrodiil in the games (idk about TESO).
Luis Ortiz
"Dreugh"
Kayden Robinson
There's a free weekend for ESO incase any of you are interested
Nathan Gray
There are Dreugh around Sheogorad.
Nathan James
Why is the Sheogorad region called that way? Does it have anything to do with Sheogorath?
Joseph Jones
Why is Azura's coast region called that way? Does it have anything to do with Azura?
Gavin Green
Why is Dagon Fel called that way? Does it have anything to do with Dagon?
The answer is sort of."Malacath, Mehrunes Dagon, Molag Bal, and Sheogorath ... Through time they have sometimes become associated with local enemies, like the Nords, Akaviri, or Mountain Orcs." I'll look more into it.
Xavier Ward
The Shrine of Azura is located along the southern reach of the coast.
Also, the Dunmer who named the regions worshiped Daedra. Vvardenfel is a rough place to live - of course it's going to be associated with the Daedra.
Ryan Reed
Way I see it, it's a mockery of Azura. Note how it's the same biome as Azura's coast in spite of Solstheim-latitude similarity and thus should be colder, yet Sheo makes it exactly like Azura's Coast. Like, "fuck you bitch, I'm painting my house the same color and landscaping my yard the same way."
Sebastian Lee
So is Dagoth Ur a reanimated puppet that the Heart is using to construct Akulakhan via Dreamers, utilizing corprus as a way to gather material for its soft tissues? If so, is the Heart trying to revive Lorkhan, or an independent entity that plans on ruling Tamriel with Dagoth Ur as its voice and the Sixth House as its army?
Justin Myers
I just figured it had to do with wind currents, like how weather in Europe is different than in places in America with similar Longitude.
Either way, naming the rocky barren coast filled with iconoclastic wizards sounds a bit like an insult, were it not for the fact that Telvanni are most like Seht who is Azura.
Luke Morris
Dagon has some relation to fish. I'd wager that the name translates to something like Fish or Fishing village.
Ryan Collins
Heavy daedric influence in religion, even under ALMSIVI. Peoples, especially earlier cultures have a habit of naming things after their beliefs
Joshua Martin
Nah, Ur is using the Heart for his own machinations. The Big L acts through his Shezarrines and the Void Ghost, but the Heart belong to the Wheel.
Dylan Brooks
It doesn't have exactly the same plants, or quite as much dense foliage at least as far as I felt.
It may be that the coast is so rocky and hard to navigate it drives sailors mad. Or literally it's Sheogorath's.
I really like all the Daedric ruins in Vvardenfel on that note. The respect the Dunmer have for Daedra and the sheer hostility of the environments around them have let them stand when other provinces would have torn them down.
Ryder Cruz
Dagon has relation to fish IRL. Mehrunes Dagon has no relation to fish.
Fel means City, so the literal translation would be Dagon City.
Connor Perez
The fuck? Why would Nirn be that shape?
Colton King
It's CHIM I ain't gotta explain shit
Nathaniel Lee
Does Tamriel have porn pictures or is it just the Lusty Argonian Maid?
Robert Rogers
Pornography is pretty normal for any society that doesn't actively repress it, and I'm pretty sure the Imperial Cult doesn't give much of a shit. So I would assume there's porn.
Brody Hall
The followers of Dibella have got you covered.
Leo Brooks
>filled with iconoclastic wizards How exactly are Telvanni iconoclastic?
Jack Jones
But they only do lesbian stuff. What if I want to see straight porn.
but it's only the /teslg/ that has porn, not /tesg/.
Parker Ortiz
why couldn't the tribunal beat dagoth urs goons when some bumfuck adventurer could?
Brody Hughes
Do you even lore? Several 'bumfuck adventurers' died trying to be the Nerevarine. The one off the boat got lucky. And btw, read the fucking material. The Tribunal couldn't replenish their divinity because Ur and friends ambushed Seht and Ayem last time they tried. The Nerevarine was the last hope as the Tribunal weakened and Ur grew stronger.
Easton Murphy
Because Dagoth Ur needed the Nerevarine to bring Wraithguard to finish Akulakhan.
Daniel Cruz
Who is the Nerevarine? Like in the context of CHIM and the godhead?
Tyler Murphy
An adventurer who fulfilled Azura's prophesy. A person born under certain stars and signs. While obviously not story accurate, he could've died just like anyone else
Josiah Torres
>Like in the context of CHIM and the godhead? What is it with loretards needing everything to fit into their perfect coda CHIM godhead enantiomorph bullshit? The Nerevarine was a role Azura kept pushing until it stuck, a tool for vengeance against the Tribunal, a tool turned against the Sixth House, and a vengeance in spirit against all those who murdered or might-have-murdered Lord Indoril Nerevar. The Nerevarine was an adventurer and a tool who saved Nirn and then fucked off to Akavir because it was inconvenient for future stories for he or she to hang around.
Dominic Bell
Mehrunes Dagon isn't the same as IRL Dagon, you retard. Mehrunes Dagon doesn't have anything to do with fish, Dagon from IRL mythology does.
Logan Sanders
Replaying Skyrim right now, so if I get it right, one of the initiates of the Chantry of Auri-el infected the Arch-Curate? Also how come some of the falmer seem to have wing sprouts
Asher Powell
>falmer seem to have wing sprouts Wut
Cooper James
Oh they're from Dawnguard, I haven't played that...
Nolan Hill
>Also how come some of the falmer seem to have wing sprouts Because they evolved from the kwama, but the cold of skyrim doesn't let them float very well so they needed wings instead of reach high places. I think it's a cool theory, and that's all that matters.
Ryan Morris
>instead of instead to*
Caleb Nguyen
What ? how could farmer have evolved from kwama ?
Carter Miller
Oh, I thought by "wing sprouts" you meant the chaurus hunter, since they have wings and sprout from their regular form.
Jace Roberts
He meant feral falmers which may or may not be vampiric
Brandon Williams
nirn is flat and cure disease potions cause autism
Matthew Garcia
So tell me, /tgesg/, why do you not despair?
Gabriel Green
Begone, foul Daedra! Man's Mystery is not for you to understand.
Matthew Rogers
You will wither and die, insignificant mortal
Parker Garcia
Elder Scrolls VI is gonna suck
Cameron Taylor
Don't be silly, user. It's gonna have working ladders, climbable mountains, VR, and the combat system's gonna be very similar to For Honor. Why don't you pre-order it right now?
Benjamin Martin
> the combat system's gonna be very similar to For Honor >VR
Oliver Roberts
Come on user, don't you want to use your dick as a sword and do an overhead attack on a lusty Argonian? In Virtual Reality? Are you a homo user? Are you a dream boy?
Hudson Long
>It's e3 2017 >all of the events have finished >people are about to leave >suddenly the ground starts to shake >a lone figure emerges from the shadows >It's Todd >and he's achieved CHIM >he's come to grant us mortals one final gift >the final elder scrolls game >a game is not the right description >more like a simulation of the elder scrolls universe >climbable mountains every where >all of tanerial us able to be explored >can even go to lyg or akavir >end game is the player actually achieving CHIM >Todd was lorkhan after all
Henry Lee
Toddposting outside of /v/ is the worst.
Adam Stewart
Idiots believing in the ''Yokuda is da past , Akavir is da future!'' theory instead of them being shards of the former Kalpas that landed on the current Nirn after Dagon tricked Alduin by hiding those places so they didn't get eaten.
Then Alduin ate Dagon and like Trinimac he ended up like shit after that.
Brayden Wright
A person born under the sign of the Serpent who may alter their future.
No really it's lore. The serpent is the only birth-sign that isn't fixed and wanders among the other signs. So someone born under the Serpent can also be born under the thief or lord.
Henry Gutierrez
But the same author is the one who said both of those things.
Jack Campbell
t. Todd
Andrew Miller
Take that back.
Elijah Murphy
They are literally described as iconoclastic in Morrowind.
>"House Telvanni matches the disposition of my brother Sotha Sil -- iconoclastic, profane, unconventional." – Vivec
Hunter Myers
is there a good read about holidays and their meanings in tamriel?
Lucas Edwards
>Why are many areas in Morrowind named after Daedra? Dagon Fell, Azura's Coast, Bal Ur and the various regions with Molag in the name, and Sheogorad all seem to be related to Daedra. Do the Dark Elves have some relation with the Daedra, possibly involving the Tribunal?
>Coewryn Shelly, Breton Scholar, Center for Provinicial Religious Studies, Caldera: Daedra, like Gods to the other cultures, are sacred to the Dunmer. They even consider Boethiah as the first of their kind. Well, I should say some of the Daedra are sacred and some are not and some enjoy the nebulous positions of being Adversaries. These Adversaries are also known as the "Four Corners of the House of Troubles," and a special place is reserved for them in the mythology of the Tribunal. At any rate, it is nothing really remarkable that many of their districts and quarters are named after the Daedra. I'll grant that, to strangers, it may seem odd that the Dunmer hold the darker powers in esteem; rest assured, though, the Morrowind is not a heathen den of demon worshippers.
Also, seeing that High Rock 3E427 from Project Tamriel suddenly got some more attention, give me your Breton headcanons.
Hunter Clark
no
Jason Perry
I guess I just never heard the common definition of "iconoclastic." The actual word if anything, implies the farthest thing from religious cynicism.
Daniel Long
The Bretons of the northern Highlands are more Scottish. They invented the claymore, and having more Nordic/Nedic blood fits thematically.
Destroying iconogrophy? I'd be surprised if the people who hate religion and politics weren't the type to destroy religious and political icons.
Sebastian Myers
I always figured the magic resistance came from the Direnni slavery, implying that the use of magic was used in part for controlling Nedic slaves.
We still don't know whether or not it's an innate genetic thing that came from previous conditions, or if "Weaned on magicka" is still canon and Bretic mothers cast illusions or pure magicka or whatnot on their kids.
Also, we don't entirely know what Dragonskin is. Nordic Woad is understandable, Orcs going berserk makes sense, Redguards having enough control over their endocrine system to produce adrenaline when needed makes sense, but what do Bretons do to activate Dragon Skin?
Nathaniel Richardson
This fits nicely as I thought that forested area around Northpoint could draw inspiration from the Caledonian Forest.
Daniel Kelly
The idea of iconoclasm, as the word actually came to be, is derived from the belief that depicting images of the divine is sacrilegious and against the commandments of god. It was driven by zealotry, not hatred for religion.
Islam is iconoclastic
Cameron Hill
>Also, we don't entirely know what Dragonskin is An interesting question. I don't like Dragonskin personally, as it's just a stronger version of Woad you already mentioned, and doesn't have any lore-related reason to exists. What's worse, in Skyrim it got turned into Spell Absorption spell.
Julian Davis
>some of the falmer seem to have wing sprouts Feral vampire lords.
Thomas Turner
As with most of the racials, realistically it's just something the Hero has as a pronounced expression of their racial characteristics. I highly doubt all Nords can deliver an Icy Punch once a day.
I find it pretty useful in Morrowind and Oblivion, since I play mages who use Bound Weapons. It can mean the difference between life and death in a battle.
In Skyrim, being a Breton is amazing. Fighting dragons with Magic Resist, Atronach Stone, and Dragon skin on makes you a god. I never used it much, though, since I rolled Restoration and had free Wards that absorbed magicka for me.
James Parker
Skyrim racials are hilariously imbalanced. Altmer get an insane 50 magicka, Bretons get one of the best passives and actives, and Orcs get the hands down best active.
Meanwhile Bosmer are stuck with a shitty animal follower.
Liam Ramirez
Good, Bosmer deserve only the worst.
Nicholas Green
From the way they're described, they sound like pretty nice people. Down to earth, humble, scorning pretense, and living a simplistic life.
I'd much rather chill out and go fishing with a Autismer than an Orc or a Nord. Or god forbid an Altmer who complains that it's too hot, and it's too cold, and it's too rainy and that he might get zapped.
Wyatt Bailey
The way you describe it, the altmer sounds like they are french
Carson Barnes
Tell me about kalpas. Do they actually exist in-game or is it just more C0DA shit?
Thomas Davis
If you're coming into a lore thread already dismissing a lore source, then why even bother
Bentley Butler
I just think it's worth differentiating between something that appears in a game from something that one of the game's writers wrote about on reddit or whatever. Same way you wouldn't treat Rowling's tweets about demisexual basilisks the second way as something published in a book. Sorry if that bothers you.
I'd still like to know about the kalpas either way, I'd just like to know where the information is coming from.
Leo Watson
I didn't know the French complained about their elemental weaknesses.
Charles Parker
Agreed
Zachary Hughes
>Player:"I need to stop Alduin." >Paarthurnax:"Yes. Alduin…Zeymah. The elder brother. Gifted, grasping and troublesome, as is so often the case with firstborn. But why? Why must you stop Alduin?" >Player:"I like this world. I don't want it to end." >Paarthurnax:"Pruzah. As good a reason as any. There are many who feel as you do, although not all. Some would say that all things must end, so that the next can come to pass. Perhaps this world is simply the Egg of the next kalpa?Lein vokiin? Would you stop the next world from being born?"
Do you even lore?
Lincoln Ward
Furthermore: >[Presently] the half-Elf [showed himself] bathed in [Meridianlight] ... and he listed his bloodline in theAyleidoonand spoke of his father, a god of the [previous kalpa's] World-River and taking great delight in the heavy-breathing of Pelinal who had finally bled... en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Song_of_Pelinal,_v_7
Joseph Thompson
Why is dragonstar in skyrim?
Noah Sanchez
What's your favorite schools of magic from the games and/or in lore?
Alchemy was best game-wise in Morrowind but mysticism was the most interesting - you were manipulating ethereal forces to trap souls or cast mark and recall. Alteration was great, and another very useful school.
Other than the crafting skills, alteration was my favorite in Skyrim. The flesh spells were ok but paralysis was a way to unlock ez mode (though there were lots of ez modes in skyrim)
Overall I think alteration is the best, because you are literally altering reality by exerting your willpower on it
Jack Moore
Everything is really just a subset of mysticism.
Owen Harris
All magic school labels are arbitrary anyways
Gavin Perez
arbitrariness itself is a subset of mysticism
Easton Flores
mysticism itself is a subset of mysticism.
Ayden Carter
Morrowind is Alteration or Alchemy
Oblivion is Alteration or Mysticism
Skyrim's a bit of everything, but less so with destruction. Alteration, Restoration, and Conjuration especially, but illusion has its uses.
Angel Myers
Anyone have any art of Nibenese people? I'm wondering how they might dress.
Sebastian Martin
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Jace Lewis
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Henry Turner
(Nibenese on the right)
Ayden James
Personally my favorites for both game and lore are Conjuration and Mysticism. I was really sad that they removed Mysticism in skyrim, was there ever an explanation for it most of the spells are in the game.