1st for 8th Edition being actually what the hobby needs to survive.
Brayden Howard
2nd for Slaanesh
Henry Long
If only it was going to be MORE like AoS
Andrew Richardson
Still waiting for plastic valhallans
Blake Perez
So what are our expectations for balance in 8th? Given we wont have any armies that haven't been updated in 5 years, will it be better, or given the rules writers will it be just as poor?
Joseph Rodriguez
You'll be waiting a long time then
Nicholas Gonzalez
...
Logan Butler
Hopefully chaos marines won't be shit
Tyler Adams
>mfw Assault is good again and Riptides will get shit on by bolter fire
8th ed best ed.
Wyatt Ortiz
How do you think grav is going to operate in 8th?
Nathan Wilson
god that pic is cringe
Owen Hernandez
no WIP thread so i thought i'd share my progress tonight. About to hit them with the first layer of Auric Gold.
anyone else working on something?
James Brooks
Working on some scouts. Gonna start highlighting the slacks while i still decide on what color to make the cloaks.
Julian Bell
Are Eldar any good in Shadow War?
Zachary Edwards
What chapter are they? I'd recommend making the camo cloaks an arctic-camo style if they're going to be mostly grey/white.
Parker Rodriguez
Its my own chapter. I was thinking of a light or a medium gray, but the blue is what Ive used for my capes and such so far.
Chase Cruz
I'm gonna start making my first army, what faction should I pick?y friends tell me that all my favorites (orks, chaos marines, tyranids) are all bad right now, but I don't want to do space marines cause that seems so casual.
Christopher Adams
i reckon it'll be the most balanced version of 40k so far. simply because everything has been worked on at once and they did more and out of hosue playtesting this time.
Jackson Nguyen
wait until 8th drops and then pick what you want
Aaron Lopez
8th edition is about to begin in a month or two, so just go with what you like since GW has promised that this one is balanced a lot better than 7th, and things like Riptides and Dark Angels leading Space Wolves are getting hit with the nerfhammer.
So Orks, Tyranids, and CSM are more than likely to be viable choices, and if not Nids or Orks, CSM.
Word Bearers a best
Aiden Morales
First, Chaos Marines are quite good right now, so your friends are working with info that's several months out of date.
Second, there's about to be a new edition, so by the time you settle on something, come up with fluff, buy it, paint it, and model it, everything we know now isn't gonna matter.
You can go with any of those options and be fine. Besides, it's better to play a weak army you like than a strong army you hate.
Landon Reed
> buy Necron codex last week > Buy all the paint for the scheme I want to paint the army in > New edition makes codex obsolete > Hear I can get a 'refund" voucher from the codex > There is going to be a codex released for the new edition > Here about the all models can damage each concept > Gauss weapons lose there uniqueness
Good thing I didn't invest too much. I can at least get paints with the refund voucher
Oliver Garcia
Not really no. You have cookie cutter lists and they still aren't great.
Luis Anderson
What do you guys think about the new stat lines?
Ian Nelson
>not playing what you want because other people meme about it being bad
Pick what you want faggot. Fuck them. Unless it's tau, then fuck you.
Andrew Thomas
Ork meme fags BTFO
Jonathan Robinson
CSM are solidly mid tier right now. Not on the level of vanilla marines or Eldar or anything like that, but they've gotten a big step up from being the bottom 3.
It's amazing what free army-wide special rules can do.
Brandon King
>Good thing I didn't invest too much
This is a miniature game. You spend. Dont invest.
Isaiah Ramirez
They'll probably still have an easier time damaging things or, if not, at least deal extra damage instead, since that's a thing now.
Jeremiah Clark
>being this much of a faggot
Unless your opponent is a WAAC cheesing faggot, CSM are beyond playable. I shat on my friends Dangles with Night Lords of all things, and no I didn't use the cheese Prince either.
Jaxson Foster
DA? What an accomplishment...
Aiden Edwards
I thought CSM were shit, user?
Ian Long
I want weapon skill back. Guardsmen should not be able to even hit Lilith.
Kevin Brooks
>retard doesn't know that unless her WS was 7+ they'd hit her on a 4+
Caleb Rogers
Why is the thread edition named after some shitty alien show?
Carson Wilson
>It's an 'every army worse than Tau or Eldar is weak' episode
Luis Lewis
U WOT M8
Daniel Jones
Actually reminds me Chicken Little, since is a chick, but also remember that op is sometime a faggot
Ryan Miller
Easily killed by a Bloodthirster of any kind, kek. No EW!
Isaiah Howard
what are the odds my scion army is still going to be legal (outside of "open" or whatever its called)? Or do I have to buy some some regular mooks and tanks?
Xavier Martin
Soooo
What are my fellow anons guesses as to what army will be set a flame for 8th?
AoS was christened by the burning of Bretonians by a bitch
My money's on a Tau player with more riptides than pathfinders
Brody Adams
Agreed.
1/4 of a page of rules would make a massive difference. I know they want to turn 40K into a collectable skylanders but please add it back in.
Juan Kelly
Okay, they hit her on a 5+.
Jayden Turner
They were Dark Elves actually.
Easton Torres
Pretty good I'd wager. 14 valid force org charts, at least one of them will probably skew towards elites even assuming the MT don't maintain their own faction status
Ryder Ross
Really?
I didn't play Fantasy, so my bad for the mistake
Angel Kelly
I dunno.
Scions as a stand alone army is retarded anyways, and clear ally money bait.
Easton Gomez
Very likely. Odds are good that they'll either shift Scions as a whole into being a troop choice for Guard so you can just slot them into a guard army wholesale, or there will be an FoC that lets you do it with minimal issue
Brody Reyes
Continuing the idea from the last thread, should "notable" posters like GGA and RGG have a 1d4 page?
David Rogers
No.
Brayden Gomez
No, that's stupid. Even assuming you wanted to have a page for someone, it should be a namefag with actual content-creation going on.
Andrew Wood
Rate my metal horror painted a decade ago
I wish I remembered how I painted this ._.
Kevin Perez
That reminds me, does qst have a wiki or will they use 1d4chan?
Henry Sanchez
Why are they all in the same clown pose?
Elijah Ward
Horrifying/10
Brody Torres
So with 8th Edition will I finally have plastic battle waifus?
Jordan James
Yeah, it was intended to be Chicken Little, given the amount of "sky is falling" we've seen recently.
Tyler Powell
Nope.
Robert Cooper
gotta say i'm digging the grey and blue
Dominic Bell
I don't really get the get the information in the post about stat lines. Are they literally just saying "str and toughness still exist as they do" and I'm expecting it to say more, or what's the deal with the thing about opposed roll?
Angel Miller
>tfw you can't decide between painting your Night Lords or working on your wych cult because they're finally going to be playable in 8th
I wasn't ready for this kind of pressure
Jeremiah Allen
Will Iron Warriors ever get love from GW?
Nolan Bell
>Wytch Cult playable in 8th [CITATION NEEDED]
Dominic Rivera
Literally just that S and T and all that still exist. BS is the same, but just straight up tells you the number rather than doing X-7. WS is now the same as BS, with it being a number you hit on instead of a retarded chart that just went from 3-5.
Lelith only hits them 66% of the time, user.
Nicholas Baker
CARNIFEX PARTY BUS
Evan Clark
>playing any Legion that isn't a Cult Legion or the Black Legion
You have no one to blame but yourself.
Joseph Carter
If the game is getting regular range-wide balance updates every year, it'll have to be the most balanced edition, even if the team has no idea what they're doing.
Justin Rivera
Sh-shut up
Iron Warriors are cool ;-;
Bentley Morales
the metallic bits in the auric gold dont spread evenly id recommend putting down some balthazar gold or leadbelcher first. better metallic look and no color bleeding through.
Henry Reed
Assuming -1 Mods for Marines shooting at a Dread in cover, it would take 24 Bolter dudes to remove a Dreadnought in one turn. Also with a -1 Mod to armor save for Str4 Bolters.
Xavier Lewis
bit of an odd question
i really like the morghast minis and have a few but would like to play with them as well. No one in my gaming circle plays AoS though. what could I reasonably proxy them as in 40k.
Adam Ross
What dies everyone think of 8th so far? I'm in an intense rage over the vehicle rules because as a Guard player I thought my Russes would be safe from bolters hitting front armor. I fucking hate it Veeky Forums. Vehicles aren't infantry. They can't feel or have a toughness (the Mechanicus can argue all they want) because they're fucking vehicles. But other than that shit seems fine.
Camden Parker
This 8th edition announcement has taken a lot of the wind out of my sails. More out of concern that I won't be able to find games afterwards, but I don't want to work on anything in my backlog right now.
Thomas Sanders
That's a flamer not a horror.
Kevin Wilson
they only remove 1 of its 8 wounds on average.
also cover is a save mod in 8e.
Bentley Johnson
demon prince or something chaos-y like that.
Mason Murphy
i feel like you could run that fig as few different demons without upsetting too many people.
Kayden Brown
Depends how large they are, though I'd say your best option would be something Chaos related, maybe Warp Talons.
Jacob Wilson
Waving their guns in the air like >Hey Xenos! Look how stealthy we are!
Cant wait to see them complete, user.
Wyatt Jones
I think the 1/50 chance of getting a hull point stripped off by a boltgun is worth not being one-shotted by a lucky lascannon anymore.
Angel Brown
What about a page just for notable posters on Veeky Forums?
Owen Martinez
the hospital stabbing was so unexpected
Sebastian Cox
I'm pretty optimistic overall, though that may be because I don't use too many vehicles.
That said, I wouldn't give up just yet. They may still introduce special rules that make a Leman Russ nigh immune to things that need a 6 from the front.
Ian Davis
Dropped 40k for Warmachine when 7th came out.
Heard about 8th, was hyped, saw the statlines posted and... ordered more Warmachine stuff.
Honestly it's more because Warmachine is the biggest tabletop game in my area, but seeing the statlines killed my hype pretty quickly.
Daniel Young
If Im not mistaken they are about the size of a demon prince so you could use them as such.
Jace Stewart
Make that 18 Bolter dudes in Rapid Tap range.
Josiah Scott
Daemon beasts, Dark Eldar grotesques, Eldar wraithblades(pushing it but for Ynnari maybe), CSM Mutilators, Centurions for a Chaos Marine warband operating out of the Space Marine codex.
Lots of things.
Zachary Howard
Boltguns can already hurt Rip Tides, they seem to have done alright for themselves despite this though
Evan Thomas
I have 5 boxes of scouts to do, these are just the sergeants.
Tyler Gonzalez
Beakie iron warriors are cool
John Garcia
The initiative rules annoy me a bit, but I like everything else.
Jaxson Gomez
They explicitly mentioned making bad units playable, ergo wyches.
I... What?
Literally every 40k player I know is excited for 8th right now. Sounds like you need less shitty people.
Asher Rogers
I like the Explosion rule. Just because it rewarded players for extremely lucky roles. Even if a Russ gets blown up I still gotta give my opponent credit. I don't know why they couldn't have made non-Tyranid monstrous creatures walkers. Fricking daemon engines are walkers why can't a shitty Riptide or Wraithknight?
Joseph Rogers
If anything vehicles are going to be too strong in 8th, I can see them getting a huge point increase since gone are the days of a sole lascannon blowing you up on turn 1. Someone worked it out for the Dred and it was like 200 bolter shots to kill it.
Brody Mitchell
....They look like bumblebees
Ian Perez
New map is out. I can't find Cadia, did they leave it out?
Brayden Howard
It doesn't really solve the problem of seventh user. The main vehicle killer of 7th was Grav and weapons that relied on mass glancing. Lascannons never were an issue.
Lucas Nelson
Beaky anything is cool.
Angel Lopez
Its the new map with the space marine map superimposed over it.