Duel of the Fates Edition

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My 6 dreadnought list will finally become relevant

>Only T7
>Eldar win AGAIN

relatively new player here, can anyone explain what the did that buffs dreads so much? is it just the 8 wounds?

Until it gets psychic shrieked off the table.

It's because they no longer have to deal with being a vehicle and getting popped.

>Can't be instantly removed by a lascannon

It's the fact one stray lascannon from a heavy weapons team can't just blow it apart first turn.

Dreads used to suck because they were vehicles who got immobilized or blown up easily. Now they are monstrous creatures who will probably go down to multiwounding shots and still suck.

Fur Da Empera!

Ork racing game when?

Isn't that gorkamorka?

>They keep showing Angelis on maps
>We will still never return

I meant vidya.
Streum On wanted to make one after EYE 2, but after their wee problems with Deathwing, I'm not even sure EYE will ever come out to start with. Maybe the console launch will help them. They have released a beta patch for random missions on PC.

Lascannon heavy weapons team will still demolish any multiwound target. Including that dread.

But hey on the brightside, marines get a 6+ armor save against it. Even more if they are in cover.

>tactical with lascanon and grab
>las and grab strip 7 wounds
>dies to bolters
The status quo is maintained

right there with you bro, cept I got 9

Forgot image like a dumbass

Now I want an Ork GTA.

I have 11 but too many are Forgeworld
And past 6 it just gets impractical

>Lascannon heavy weapons team will still demolish any multiwound target. Including that dread.
Yeah, but a sole lascannon can't kill it outright because they only do D6 damage, and we don't know what the reduced efficiency chart for vehicles looks like yet.

If you want to reliably kill multiple vehicles completely in single salvos it will require you to take more lascannons, which limits your ability to deal with chaff.

So, from the looks of things, high power weapons get better against vehicles (and other big things), medium power ones get worse (but probably better against marines, due to middling AP actually achieving something now).

>Because tankbustas were just too powerful

Also, no keywords on weapon profiles.

I'm wondering if there are some wound values which are going to work out better than a simple analysis would suggest... if most multi-wound weapons do D6, then there are likely to be points where one extra wound either makes fuck all difference or quite a big one. Like, anything that kills a 15 wound model probably kills a 16 wound one as well, but 14 wounds is much more vulnerable because it's statistically more likely to die to four shots instead of 5? Probably not a huge issue with anything except super-heavies, but I can see that the SM dread is nicely positioned at the point where it is just about able to survive three average lascannon hits.

Is it frowned upon to work on FW models in a GW shop?

Nope

nobody cares but you. There's a black dude on the stock photo. Get over it.

Oh thank god. I'm hoping to get some help with assembly. The resin is so intimidating.

Not generally, but I've had at least one blackshirt getting autistic over people using models that are not physically sold in the store or in the store terminal, including forgeworld models

The question is, why would it?

>stop making memes
No, YOU stop having fun!

>asking us instead of your local GW manager

Really activates your AI net processes

Just remember to be careful and bring a pot of green stuff because FW models never fit properly

I'd literally call GW customer service in front of a red/blackshirt that had probelms with FW or OOP models

Your "fun" is detrimental to mitteraly everyone who isn't from /pol/ or a shutposter. I do believe user is justified in telling you to fuck off.

Made me reply, cunt. Last (You) you're getting from me.

>Be a GW manager
>You will get shitcanned guaranteed if you dont meet sales expectations
>Guy comes into store and wants to play/build models that don't contribute to you still having a job next month
>"Put away that resin."

Is there any indication that vehicles will even have reduced stats as they take damage?

All the AoS stuff that does that has asterisks on their statline for the affected characteristics, but the dread doesn't have any.

Also, since everything has the same stats, will all vehicles be able to fight in melee? Kind of nonsensical that a buggy with a couple of orks hanging off it can't do shit in close combat at the moment. Also, might make grabba klaws and wreckin balls useful.

>being shit at your job

>Is there any indication that vehicles will even have reduced stats as they take damage?
They said it in live FAQ.

Despite their Templar scheme I was running them using Champions of Fenris, 1 HQ and 8 Elites.

Worked Great

>Your "fun" is detrimental to mitteraly everyone except for people I don't like
>ONE POST RUINS MY ENTIRE THREAD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Truly quality posts coming from king No Fun Allowed himself!

I always wondered, why is Forge World a semi-separate entity from GW? Why doesn't the main GW store page just have a "giant resin models" section?

Can confirm, stats will reduce down to a min of 1.

I'm not saying it's good, I'm just explaining the reasoning behind it.

If you tell people "sell x amount of things or hit the road", it's only reasonable that some will be hostile to things that don't contribute to their sales.

So the flamer automatically hits 6 times?

Well, the prices might give people a second thought about starting in the hobby.

I'm the user who told him to fuck off, as you said so elegantly. I'm glad there are still anons with a sound mind around here.

They did say that damage tables will still be a thing, so probably.

auto hits 1 to 6 times

Wait nevermind, I'm retarded.

Because FW is allowed to act independently to a greater degree and is generally aimed at neckbeards, whereas the normal line is simple and accessible by comparison. Like how Black Library is the one that does books, rather than "GW"

I think its the target plus D6.

d6 times yes

It's automatically hits d6 times.

Yes. hits will be how many models it can hit (in the case of a single dude, how many times they gets slapped). Damage is how many wounds each shot shaves off per hit.

Massed flamers can be an effective tactic against monstrous creatures now.

autohits d6 hits.

Any speculation on infantry guns? Will pulse rifles be S5 AP 0? Will hotshot lasguns be S3 AP -2?

Sure, if you rolled a six

Oh please, stfu you dumb ass. go back to /pol/ if you want to be a fucking retard about something as trivial as a black dude playing 40k. Stop forcing your ''meme''. It's not funny. It was never funny. You are alone.

>reddit meme
>"haha fellow sane people amirite"
Hello 1d4ddit!

Look at the galaxy. Admire what you did to it, teegee.

>60 bongs
>never fit properly
Newfag status: sorely regretting falling down this rabbit hole.

>haha, last reply for you!
>except that you're still not allowed to have fun also no joking about the obvious racial bias in these stock photos
>also it doesn't count as a joke if i don't like it
Outstanding behavior, fellow 1d4dditor! Truly the kind of conduct we require on our Safe Space Wiki™!

So, flamers don't have 'ignores cover' as a special rule.

Does that mean cover is now a modifier to your 'to hit' rolls or that they decided fire doesn't go around corners?

Also, no 'flame' keyword or anything. Does that mean keywords don't apply to weapons or just that they aren't on the profile?

>52913258
>herp derp: the post
Got any more stale memes, user, I'm totally digging them

>that '''''''''''''art''''''''''''''''''

Or theres more than one of us sick of your shit.

Can't wait for tau&eldar stat blocks and weapon profiles
>riptides with double digit wounds
>pulse rifle with (d)2 damage stat
>Scatter lasers with ap modifier
>D transformed to the new system

>Avenger Shuriken Catapult: Assault 2 S:4 AP:0 D:1 On a To Wound roll of 6 it wounds automatically with AP: -3
We're anti-vehicle now.

Yea, in the end, you're still alone shit posting in a 40k thread.

If it is a modifier to the "to hit" roll, then flamers do have ignore cover, as they always hit.

If a lascannon is -3 and Bolters/flamers are 0, we can assume this table:

AP1 = -4
AP2 = -3
AP3 = -2
AP4 = -1
AP5/6/- = 0

>EVERYONE is sick of your nonsense, alt-right neo-nazi /pol/ /r/the_donald centipede, amirite fellow 4channers?
Fantastic work, 1d4dditors! Keeping Veeky Forums safe and rightwing nazi free!

>according to polls bulk of tg are guard players
like what, badly at their jobs?

Cover now adds to your save. It seems they don't want different types of saves, just a generic save with modifiers. Makes me think Invulnerables will make you like.. immune to AP or something.

Shame Nazi means National Socialist and is an extreme left wing movement.

It really is quite amazing how sometimes people can smell tryhard bait miles away, and then people like you come along and fly completely under their radar. How DO you do it?

>AP5/6/- = 0

More like...
AP 5 = 0
AP 6/- = +1

Got to make sure orks are always screwed, user!

do we think that jink will still exist and that it will be a type a type of cover save?

I know you're trying to be funny but let's be real for a second, that makes no sense. Also post yfw a group of Burna Boyz torch fucking Riptides with 15d6 hits.

Its the nationalist part thats the problem.

I just think that you should be able to order FW from stores that way at least the store can meet sales expectations

>when you assume...

wait what about AP --
since AP 6 is +1 won't AP -- be +2 ?

I forget but Space Marine bikers have access to twin linked flamers, right?

Don't know, but if they're making cover as a concept be a simple save increase, Jink might be removed or be a separate rule that gives the enemy a hit penalty.

Honestly I think a good portion of the rules we have now will be squashed into simple hit, wound or save modifiers.

You make an ass out u and me, I know I know. But it's an educated guess from what we've seen so far, is all I'm saying.

Quick, the battle of the bands is coming up for 8th. Whats our band name?

>will all vehicles be able to fight in melee?

Probably. It's also pretty easy to do, for example you can give a chimera a d6 attacks for running over/ramming the enemy.

The Unthinned

>...that makes no sense.

When has that ever stopped GW? Besides, it's perfectly justified in terms of simulating the background, just not in terms of game balance. Which means it's more likely than not, since GW have made it pretty clear they don't give a single shit about balance, even in the age of new GW.

I think you're doomsaying and want something to complain about.

The Strip and Try Again

The Mon-Keigh's

hush