Banned!

Good lord. I thought the fallout from Top would be enough to satisfy them, but once again they prove me wrong.

>tfw pauper and edh player
>watching how wotc handles other formats

I wish they could just admit they fucked up with the obvious, rather than pretending data magically popped up in 2 days time.

Oh yes, the people who unbanned Protean Hulk are doing a bang up job based on their feefees

>we had this cancerous combo in modern that we banned
>so let's reprint it in standard
either that or they didn't see the interaction in the first place, which is also terrifying

Be careful what you wish for. Remember how long Drake was an issue?

>implying protean hulk unban was a bad idea

They didn't see the combo, the Future Future League was too busy playing complete kitchen table garbage that they thought would be good (Servo Tokens is totally going to be a standard archetype guys)

>data
the data they got is the multitude of pro players on twitter telling them they are fucking stupid not banning the cat.

Hulk is just a normal dies effect in EDH.

Most of WotCs mistakes have been them thinking that garbage would be good, so they ignore their mistakes. Off the top of my head, I know Thragtusk was so pushed because WotC thought everyone would be using Wolfir Silverheart as their powerful 5-drop.

who the hell playtests this shit? saheeli cub was pointed out like 5 minutes after the guardian was spoiled

>who the hell playtests this shit

Complete retards. The same who didn't bother playing too much Emrakul the Promised End because they thought Werewolves were too good. Who thought Collected Company was a bad card not worth playing.

To be fair servo tokens isn't too terrible, it just folds to the combo like almost every other possible deck that wasn't topping.

How the fuck is a 4 mana flicker so broken it needs banning? WTF?

Because it's part of a turn 4 two card instant win combo.

Goes infinite with saheeli rei

Magic is playtested by dunces

Because it can flicker planeswalkers.
You play Saheeli Rai, play Cat, -2 the Saheeli targeting the cat, flicker the Saheeli Rai with the new cat, and repeat over and over untill you have infinity hasted 1/4s

shitskin splinter twin. A well known combo in all formats so obvious to pick up, right.

planeswalker makes a token copy of a creature with haste that's exiled at the end of turn with one of its abilities, flickering the walker, allowing you to do it again, repeat

jesus christ wotc

>Some guy leaves pic related outside Wizards HQ
>Shit guys we'd better ban top
>Some autist orders a bunch of pizzas to Wizards HQ
>Shit guys we'd better ban cat

How do we manipulate them into unbanning SFM in Modern? Apparently it's not too difficult. Maybe a couple prank calls?

Immediately after Felidar Sovereign was spoiled it was figured out by pretty much everyone.

Is there an argument for not banning the cat?

>ban cat
>don't ban gideon
Mardu is going to rape everything

>Unban SFM
Can we stop with this forced meme?

I mean, I think a decent amount of good hate was printed for the combo in this set. The meta would still probably be limited to 3, maybe 4 good decks, with 4c Saheeli solidly ahead of everyone else and Mardu dropping down

Now new decks from amonkhet only have to deal with the most aggresive deck in years
Yep

WotC would never ban one of their pet planeswalkers.

Fuck

This is literally on you
You should haveseen this coming

Reminder. The FFL thought call of the bloodlines Jund was going to be a T1 standard deck.

...

eat shit jew

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

you got what you deserved
>12 copies of both combo pieces
were you planning on making 3 decks of it or something user?

Oh yeah, sure. Destroying consumer confidence is the big one. This banning combined with the Emrakul/Copter/Reflector Mage is sending the message of "never buy into a tier one deck because it'll just get banned". On a side note it also proves that R&D don't have a clue - we had no bans for seven years and then suddenly shit gets so bad they have to ban three cards at once... and that only made Standard worse!

They also printed hate in Amonkhet, which could have helped the situation - I mean, it didn't, but it was worth waiting to see if cards like Manglehorn would pan out. I think the ban will result in a healthier Standard environment (I mean, how could it not?) but I certainly won't be buying into a tiered deck for a few years after this shitshow.

Reminder: the FFL did not catch Valakut

>cute fanart of cat and pervert god
You got more where that came from, user?

Is there some sort of internal competition at Wizards to make the company look as incompetent as possible?

Regardless, I'll be picking up a playset at FNM to build a bad budget modern deck.

Maybe so, maybe no. The issue with Copycat was that it was the immovable gatekeeper - if your deck couldn't answer the combo at instant speed on turn 5/6, then you would just lose on the spot. In other words every deck had to be good against Copycat. Now, hopefully, decks will emerge that are good against Mardu but wouldn't have stood a chance against Copycat.

You should totally build mono-white Emeria. It's loads of fun.

Seems like bans happen more then they did a few years ago.

Standard had FOUR banned cards now, that's absurd.

t. jund

>announce a new banlist not even 3 days ago
>E M E R G E N C Y B A N
Did they fucking forget to include it and didn't realize until 2 days later, or did they think that like 2 days of an Amonkhet standard would give them all the data they need to hit something? Either way is retarded.

I got it from here, so nope

here's the original twitter.com/Ishton/status/855955410645340161

They saw the sheer number of people saying they're quitting standard until kaladesh rotates out

>something something emergency ban powers

why did I laugh at this

t. Casual Timmy shitters who are going to use the trigger to search for a craw wurm.
Anyone with any amount of competitiveness in them is going to use it to find Viscera Seer, Phyrexian Delver, Mikaeus, and Walking Ballista. And that's just in BG.

Wouldn't jund players be happy that something opresses DSJ a little bit?

meme was about as shit tier as saheeli will become so

They got told by the pro players, people who actually play the game.

And so begins the YGO bancycling.

Konami of the Coast, it was nice knowing you. Sorry I hung around so long after you died.

>They ban Felidar Guardian

MEANWHILE ON THE ACTUAL FUCKING STANDARD METAGAME

You're retarded. Saheeli combo was 35% of the metagame, more if you count other non-5C variants of the deck.

They directly said in the announcement that Copy Cat only got stronger from Amonkhet, which again, is something Pros have been saying for weeks and they just around around with their foots in their dicks promising "LET US ANALYZE MORE DATA GUIS"

I just want to pretend I'm playing Splinter Twin again

Get fucked

AND IT WAS GETTING KILLED OFF BY MARDU ANYWAYS, NOW GUESS WHO IS GOING TO GET 60%+ OF THE METAGAME

Oh boy, can't wait for 60 percent of the meta to be Mardu Vehicles and slightly less powerful budget versions of them.

>list 4 pieces of a 2-part combo
>the combo needs one less piece than before it can go off
>this is somehow an issue in EDH of all places

>isnt an artifact based combo
saheeli makes artifact copies, try harder to cover for wotc shill

I've been out of the loop with MTG for a while, why exactly was this card banned?

Well, It goes infinite with panharmonicon

Because people aren't buying into the new and exciting decks that Amonketh is bringing us so wizards have to ban the top decks so people will have to buy the new cards for the new decks now.

and there are cards in amonkhet that have game vs vehicles but literally nothing new that interacts favorably with copy-cat.

Part of an infinite combo with Saheeli Rai.

it's in standard with this

Or a Bomberman combo!

You're extremely short sighted, and seem to not realize what the format was like. Here's a hint: Saheeli limited the metagame, there were a bunch of decks that simply couldn't function because the combo existed. Now that it doesn't exist, those decks stand more of a chance, and can possibly have a favorable matchup against Mardu.

That's so far back it's not even relevant anymore, the fuck?

Ah. And we can't have combos, or ban a nice big juicy planeswalker now, can we?

Except people were screaming at Wizards to ban the card, retard, because it was extremely oppressive to the format.

So how many months of suffering will we have to endure until Wizards realizes that the only thing keeping Mardu Vehicles from curbstomping absolutely everything was Saheeli combo and by not touching the vehicles deck as well we're just in for domination?

Ban Heart of Kiran
Release Smugglers Copter

>being able to assemble an infinite combo on turn 1 or 2 with a single spell is perfectly fine
I bet you've never even played against a dedicated competitive deck because you think they're too unfair.

Did you not see all the hate printed in Amonkhet for artifacts and creatures?

No, in case you didn't notice from this thread the people screaming about Mardu don't actually play the game. Hence why they are using results from last month to try to make their point.

So glad I don't play Standard anymore.
And Miraclefags got btfo, too.
At least Modern isn't in a terrible place. Not great, but more playable than other formats. Everyone can just move to Modern and have fun with us.

>yfw Death's Shadow gets banned in the next update

Glad it wasn't Saheeli Rai, I wanted to try her out in my Metalwork Colossus deck, also featuring Fling.

Hello! How can I, also a retard, acquire a job with you in the FFL?

YOU COULD ALREADY ASSEMBLE IT ON TURN 2 WITHOUT HULK!
Make Mikaeus your Commander, T1 Ritual Vault Ring, Cast Mikaeus, Cast Ballista for 0, win the game.
No Protean Hulk needed.

I play Burn. I am neutral about a DS ban.

is this sarcasm or not? I was thinking of making it myself because it looked fun to play

The chances of a deck drawing Flash and Hulk are low enough that it can be ignored. More likely you would have to tutor for one of them, which puts the combo closer to turn 4 or 5.

This is EDH, you can already do wins on turn 2 with the right draws, and Hulk is not any worse then many of the cards in the format.

Reminder: the FFL thought UW Mass Polymorph was going to be the runaway deck of ZEN-SOM.
It really was a super sweet deck.

>Couple this with consensus among a wide sampling of pros and feedback (and pizza) from our community and we decided to take action.
>with consensus among a wide sampling of pros and feedback (and pizza) from our community and we decided to
>among a wide sampling of pros and feedback (and pizza) from our community and we
>wide sampling of pros and feedback (and pizza) from our community
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>pizza

See, while the cat was totally justified as a ban, I don't like that they banned it three days after the announcement one bit. That makes me really uneasy.
Not looking forward to the green hell one bit. My elves matchup is horrible.

When you decide that instant speed removal is unfun or too strong for standard, it turns out that a splinter twin style combo is really fucking strong.