Was he Chaotic Evil or True Neutral?

Was he Chaotic Evil or True Neutral?

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Alignments are a spook

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Neither, he was Blue-Black-Red Legendary Creature.

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Who the hell is this

Max Stirner, the father of nihilist philosophy.

Max Stirner.
Lurk more.

Oh, I thought he may have been someone important.

Here let me summarize this thread.
>alignment system no good!
>gary gygax!
>how dare you, alignment system perfect!
>who dis?
>this man shit!
>this man god!
>porn, bait, and porn bait!
>three to 4 on topic anons!
>lol the thread derailed
>final moments of life involving something completely unrelated and the now two on-topic anons

Chaotic neutral. Dude was kind of a dick. Pretty much spent the latter half of his life living off of fraud.

He's True Spook

I always though of him as chaotic neutral, his whole philosophy is essentially "do what you, as an individual person, want to do, because any external cause or motivation is only going to diminish your selfhood"

yeah, his whole deal is that if you can't hit him in the face with it he defies you to prove it has any effect on him. He's not wrong that 'spooks' are just ideas with no material existence, but actually turning that into human behavior just means you refuse to incorporate the fact that even if you don't believe something, others might. Striner would probably call the social construct of gender a spook (assuming a time traveler baited him too I guess) but its not as if that would make it any less the convention.

Honestly I'd rather write about time travelers harassing ancient philosophers.

>because any external cause or motivation
What defines an external cause or motivation? Is it morning the nature of all organisms to behave and react to one's environs

I mean ideals specifically, reactions to the environment in animals are probably instinct driven, or else driven by the internal desires to remain alive and comfortable. For example, helping your family because 'it's your duty' or because 'god wills it' or because 'it's the right thing to do' would be acting under an external motivation, but doing it because you personally value your family and desire to create beneficial situations for them would be acting under an internal motivation.

Chaotic Neutral at best, but his philosophy of "morality is just a spook" and "do want you want" can easily be interpreted as Chaotic Evil.
Dudes an anarchist, so I can't see him being any kind of Neutral on the law-chaos axis.

There we go. Everyone can go home now. No need to browse Veeky Forums anymore.

>ywn destroy nihilism to prevent edgetards from ruining your day
Shucks, Chuck

>a time traveler tries to fuck with Diogenes
>he just punches them and steals the time machine

Vash the Stampede

/thread

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I think youll find this more accurate:

Max Stirner, Egoist
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"You'll find my property, that monocolor is a spook. All mana is nothintg to me!"

What website do you come from user?

Just because someone believes it user doesn't mean it's true. Even if it can be used to predict what others will do.

/thread.

You can all go home to my property now.

Fuck me in the ass Havok

Sure thing babe

Salt

Good thing we had this settled so early.

please blow your brains out

He's definitely CN or TN, not Evil.

His philosophy gets used to justify lots of edgy stuff, but if you actually read what he wrote he talks about how if you genuinely enjoy being nice then you should just be nice. But it's not worth it to be nice just because someone else says you have to. As opposed to someone like Rand who tries to argue that honest altruism is to the detriment of society.

It's fun and all that people are interested in historical philosophy, but really. You guys should focus your mental effort on actually contemporary philosophy like existentialism and absurdism.

Those are far superior to something outdated as nihilism, I mean even in Nietzsche's days nihilism was outdated (because Nietzsche fucking destroyed nihilism with his own brand of unnamed proto-existentialism).

>contemporary philosophy like existentialism and absurdism.
Oh I am laughing
good one

>outdated as nihilism
Blatantly untrue. I would characterize Gen Z (and Millennials to some extend) as basing a large part of their behavior, knowingly or most often otherwise, on nihilism like how the 60s-70s Baby Boomers were driven culturally and politically by individualism (provoked by the the fear of Nuclear War, Women's Rights and Civil Rights movements) and Gen X by cynicism.

That trashy movie Spring Breaks captures the spirit of Gen Z and it's a blatant portrayal of a disillusioned and purposeless nihilistic group of people.

Just because a philosophy is outdated, doesn't mean it doesn't exist anymore.

When something is out of date it means it has no usage or practicality, it's obsolete, a relic. But that isn't the case with nihilism as it can be clearly observed rising in popularity.

He even uses the word "spooks".

Among fucking retarded braindead people that wouldn't be able to think their way out of wet toilet paper.

Just as Nietzsche predicted.

Let me blow your mind here user. Most people are retarded.

>wouldn't be able to think their way out of wet toilet paper.
How do you think your way out of a physical substance?

> Oh, I thought he may have been someone important.
He is, though.
>Here let me summarize this thread.
Nah, it's gonna devolve into Stirner memes instead.

...

>think "i want to move my arms"
>arms move
>free from physical substance

>mind is inseparable from actions
>ideal is inseparable from reality
Found the nature philosopher.

what about this one?

This is all there is nigga. Plato was a hack.

His Forms are bullshit.

>Just because someone believes it user doesn't mean it's true.
I don't believe that's true.

How does a philosophy get outdated? It's just a collection of opinions.

Opinions based on an outdated understanding of the world are outdated opinions.

But hardly anyone understands the world. Most people aren't even close to understanding themselves. In fact, most people don't understand the difference between objective and subjective.

Our current understanding doesn't have to be complete in order for there to be other, more outdated forms of understanding.

Pretty damn questionable whether they're more wrong than the latest batch.

Fuck your relativism.

I'd watch/play that

Unaligned. Nihilism itself is not giving a shit, therefore he does not register on the alignment chart, as having an alignment either requires you be born to it, or you take a stand in some way. Taking a stand implies something matters and Nihilism (at least Max's brand of it) gives no shits about anything.

Fuck your "whatever I feel like is objectively right"-ism. You're propagating a safety blanket for adults.

Who is the most hack philosopher in history?
My vote goes to jean jacques rousseau

>Our current understanding doesn't have to be complete in order for there to be other, more outdated forms of understanding.
This.

2 cookies from an infinite stack of cookies is better than 1 cookie from an infinite stack of cookies.

>knowingly or most often otherwise

Nah the hip thing for kids these days is for everyone to be fully aware of their actions and motivations but to ironically continue down their self-destructive spirals anyway

Think back to that bit in West Side Story where the Jets are ragging on about Officer Krupke:
youtube.com/watch?v=pq28qCklEHc

That assumes the cookies are actually tasty, chewy cookies. If they are shit-tier crunchy cookies, then having fewer cookies is a good thing.

If nothing matters then you're free to do whatever is the idea there. I'm oversimplifying it but I'm also a lazy cunt so there.

>If nothing matters then you're free to do whatever is the idea there.
Theoretically and in some cases practically true but that isn't the interpretation the majority of nihilists (self aware or otherwise) hold as true. Probably for the best actually, I would rather have a bunch of depressed, suicidal idiots than a bunch of idiots running around doing as they please to themselves and others.