You only really had to worry if you tried to deep strike literally right next to enemy units. You could reliably deep strike at a safe distance where you were unlikely to mishap and still be in range to do effective damage.
Benjamin Gray
I'm a noob, and have only played 3 games.
The idea of my terminators scattering into a wall, or an enemy unit is terrfying
Joseph Long
>tfw fear will actually matter
EIGHTH FOR THE EIGHTH
Ryan Wilson
Well luckily for you 8th ed is right around the Corner!
Joseph Cook
Im more excited for the new models and factions than for the rules
Jaxson Torres
Woo!
Too bad I fell in love with heavy flamer sternguard with pedro kantor
Lucas Nelson
Even if you misshaped you still had to roll a 1 for the unit to actually be at any risk of destruction.
If you want shitty you'd have to play guard and try to use grav-chute insertion where the entire unit was instantly destroyed if one guy couldn't deploy.
Julian Ward
>no more scattering onto your own troops Aw, thats part of the fun
Isaac Nelson
First for Stealthsuits being one the funnest, most versatile units in the Tau Codex.
Jaxson Butler
Where can I read all the confirmed changes and info?
Luis Russell
A unit that's effective at range you shouldn't even bother deep striking. It wastes two turns they could have been shooting at something and lines them up nicely for a single blast to remove a hundred something points at once.
There's a reason that people mostly just don't deep strike anything that could scatter into a wall and when they do it's termicide.
Jace Carter
why is he being petrified
John Jackson
>new factions Uh...
There has been heavy discussion about whether flamers will be more or less useful now templates have been squatted and they auto D6 hit
Levi Hughes
15th for static grass clumps make the best camouflage.
Jaxon Wood
Here's hoping they'll have some of the play style defining formations like Cohort Cybernetica and other stuff messing with how a unit is composed and functions in the codices.
Benjamin Hall
God I hope so.
I always have to play against blobs of guard, tau, and eldar at my LGS.
Those vets are what keep me going
Colton Hall
Fucking Choose
Alternative versions: Imperium, Chaos, Aeldari, Other Xenos and a rulebook
Real version: Rulebook, scenery book, Imperium, Chaos and Xenos armybooks
Eli Jenkins
He's coming out of stealth in rocky terrain.
Duh.
Henry Miller
new fagtion melee tau incoming
Ian Lopez
So where's this magical thing people are reading that says ICs can't join units? I watched the entire Q&A and they talked about how ICs can join units, and I haven't seen anything GW official that actually said otherwise.
Feels like a bad angle, or bad proportions, take your pick
Joseph Adams
dumb ork poster
Joseph Lewis
Could she *be* any more out of proportion? Fuck me
Landon Williams
...
Levi Martinez
The proportions and the artstyle are worse than the fucking female space marine.
Josiah Smith
dumb Tyranid poster, actually.
Joshua Lewis
What is it from
Thomas Rogers
You obviously don't play with a normal amount of terrain. Scattering 6 inches in any direction would mishap you if you had 1/4th terrain coverage that's not just a random tree
Noah Rivera
And the best part: it's canon. Source: wh40k: revelations comic
Noah Davis
PLASTIC SISTERS WHEN?
Justin Roberts
Yeah, I really don't care. No one really cares about it.
What people care about is all of the fuss.
>soggy-kness if no female muhreens
I am not going to change things I like for your benefit, if it is natural to the setting and feels organic awesome. Otherwise gtfo
coming from the cumdump gender
Carson Scott
Angry at how terribly proportioned this female Inqjisitor in terminator armour with a force halberd is.
Jackson Reed
So is anyone else just assuming she's piloting it like a Tau suit? Grey Knights just made a smaller version of the dreadknight, just with limbs attached to adamantium swaddling. Or this guy.
Liam Price
Where'd the nidleaf meme come from? what did I miss?
Adrian Watson
>comic books of course it was them
Henry Morris
Female inquisitors are and always have been canon. A male or female can wear terminator armour.
Those proportions are fucking dreadful though.
Sebastian Ward
I thought that shit wasn't supposed to work without the black carapace
Jaxon Baker
What's special about this, shitposter-san?
The Inquisition always used Terminator armour and Space Marine equipment and always had female Inquisitors.
Jace Wood
That's an inquisitor in Terminator Armor. The white armor just makes her look like a GK.
Jack Diaz
>Tau >Might Warriors
Easton Brown
This looks like it was drawn by IDW or some other shitty PC comic publisher
Cameron Clark
But that's just an inq.. Fuck it.
Jeremiah Smith
It's one guy spamming that word on everything trying to force it.
Mason Brown
Nah it's just harder to use it without it.
Luis Brooks
>nidleaf spotted
Bentley Bennett
Pretty sure the black carapace just lets you move more easily in power armor, not that it's required to use it. Inquisitors in power armor is nothing new. Ordo Malleus even has terminator armor for Inquisitors.
Sebastian Campbell
>Mfw I will be able to BTFO entire army with new flamers rules
Joshua Allen
Ignore the fem Space Marine shitposter trying to derail the thread, giving them attention never ends well and this thread is too young to die.
Instead, let's do some speculation on 8e. Hoping that Snipers will no longer only wound on 4+ and will instead have realistic AP and strength values or, at least, apply plenty of wounds per hit.
Gabriel Sanders
I thought they had to go through the same process as space marines though
Kevin Lewis
But it'll take hundreds of hits to damage big units.
Cameron James
A black carapace isn't necessary for power armour or terminator armour. It just makes it so the armour moves as if it's a part of you.
Tyler Brooks
You have to be a space marine to do that. That's part of the implants and genetic manipulation.
Daniel Gonzalez
>this shit posting Look friendo, we all know eldar will get their own special book, so stop being a super retard, and spamming thread with your shit head cannon
Charles Richardson
The Inquisition and Sororitas explicitly do not have the black carapace or anything like it.
Isaac Collins
>everything i don't like is shitposting mkay
Justin White
t. xenofag
Nicholas Flores
I always thought that Malleus Terminator armor wasn't Space Marine sized.
Parker Myers
>Spamming the same image thread after threda like the ork guy is not funposting phew lad Alpha legion actually so i get two books, i just know GW has a bonner for eldars
Samuel Lopez
>spamming >once per thread is spamming Go back to 1d4ddit
Isaiah Martin
GK confirmed for tiny manlets
Nicholas Rivera
It's a misrepresentation of facts, its regarding Deathstar benefits as most buffs will trigger only on models with the right keyword.
Joshua Stewart
>he dosent know what spamming is on 4chins go back to bolterseer pleb
Jackson Bailey
Like i've wasted bandwidth.
Chase Smith
>not having unlimited bandwidth Spotted the nidleaf
From what I saw in the stream core rules aren't included in the five books, they're just a free online thing that will be available for a short time in print. They said the five books would be datasheets for the models int he game, so I'm assuming scenery is with the core rules.
And for the five I'm assuming something else gets thrown in with space marines from imperium, aeldari get their own book because they know they'll sell a fuckton, all the other xenos in another book because fuck they want to sell that one too.
So "Space Marines" (+possible other stuff), "The Rest of the Imperium", "Forces of Chaos", "Aeldari", "Those Other Xenos Fags I Guess". Yes those are the actual titles.
Samuel Cox
i feel like its already old new bro.
Christian King
Fellow DE players, do you have any hope for the new edition? If GW doesn't fuck it all up for us, it sounds like the changes could actually be good and un-fuck us for once.
inb4 Raiders have T4 and 3 wounds lel
Jose Nelson
FTFU Tauburger.
Jose Ortiz
>mentioning bolterseer Dakka Dakka spotted. Go back.
Ryan Phillips
Im waiting to see what they are going to do with Hameonculus covens stuff. My current list runs 6 talos,a Cronos, two squads of Grotesques and some wracks, with Haemy HQs, so I want to see what Monstrous creatures are going to look like. Im hoping for the same statline in terms of toughness and Strength, cause that means they continue to be bitches to hurt. Though I might cry if we loose Haemy Power from pain.
Jacob Lee
You cant reson witrh this guy, he's worse that cheeterfag
Bentley Jones
Holy shit... am I seeing Tyranid hate? Unironic Tyranid hate. I didn't think I w9uld ever see the day. Guess these are some awakened template stacking autists. Usually it's Tau or Elda4 hate.
Brody Moore
Equal opportunist hatred round here Gotta wait for dem stat lines to see who the cool new army to hate on is
Jose Kelly
>Eldar get their own book Has been deconfirmed by the latest rumour image.
Robert Reyes
So Black Templars will be decent again, r-right?
Surely GW would make Crusader Squads and their Chapter Tactics good enough now to be worth running and losing Psykers for.
Angel Cruz
How the fuck do those PROPORTIONS even work?
William White
Have you some how never manged to see all of the "NPC race" posts before? People are always hating on something and the various non-meta races have never been immune to it.
Evan Butler
It's easy, really.
They obviously don't.
Christopher Mitchell
Think of this, movement values on all units. Dark Eldar focus on physical perfection to make up for the lack of psychic ability. Remember movement value coming back? And think of what a grotesquerie can do with automatic first attack on a charge? I'm thinking they might make jink a modifier to their to-hit value, which could really help. I think with the way Ynnari is going the Dark Eldar may shine more using the haemonculi covens to draw fire while their stupidly fast methed out elves run out of nowhere to unload.
Honestly, we can't know much about it until it comes out because we need to see is if they change the way the webway is used, or anything about deep strike and outflank. Also how well the new ugly fuckers can work as bullet sponges.
Seriously though, think of a few melee units they have to fire on before it gets close surrounded by swarms of rapid fire Dark Eldar repositioning almost as hard as current Craftworld, while incubi jump out of their transports to charge something that was over 20" away at the start of the turn. That's bullshit and won't happen but we probably get watered down versions that are competitively viable and I'm completely okay with that.
Leo Anderson
>Wildspeculation involving mirroring leaked image is proof hahahahahahaha, i bed you thought trump had a 0% chance of winning
Carter Wood
>muh preshus tyranids 1d4dditor, please go back to your Safe Space Wiki™
Kevin Parker
Memes m8, memes. embrace them
Ryder Rodriguez
Enjoy your Xenos book.
Alexander Evans
>And for the five I'm assuming something else gets thrown in with space marines from imperium, probably deathwatch and grey knights, since they are space marines after all.
Jonathan Wilson
I was going to start adding some Covens stuff to my army, I hope they end up being usable. Hammer and anvil is the greatest strategy known to tactically inept man. A wall of Talos and Grotesques with over 9000 Scourge/Reavers and mechanized Kabalites sounds nice.
If we end up being slower than Craftworldfags again I don't even know what I'll do. WWPs being useful would be nice. Maybe they'll go back to something like the old WWP, or the Corsair dimensional key, where once you drop one basically anything can pop in and out of it
Elijah Powell
>tell a retard his proof is shit >get show same proof top kek
Henry Lee
I reckon they will stay the same, but gain more wounds and maybe inbuilt IWND. I suspect the Haemy PfP table will be gone though ;_; But maybe Grotesques will get fearless or something.
The new Moral system will FUCK Grotesques more than any other unit, you loose 1, bam even if you roll well rest of the unit is gone...So that will have to change.
I posted in the Guess the statline thread, but I suspect Raiders are going to be T6, T7-8 seems standard so T6 seems about right. Probably going to have either 6-8 wounds (pretty standard - weak, like it should be).
Hopefully 12" move base. (fire at full BS regardless; I think they will get rid of the whole combat speed/ cruising speed system)
Hopefully Splinter racks stay...I fucking love those things...
Benjamin Rogers
So T6, 4+, maybe a minus to his for being super fast? i can dream
Anthony Turner
Any speculation how any named IC changes?
I'm halfway through painting my pedro kantor, and just bought lysander
Daniel Reyes
It turns out 5 talos with scout with a 3+/4+ FnP is both an anvil and hammer at the same time. Only thing is to stay away from Grav, Wulfen and stuff with decent invulns. Seriously, I have tabled boards with just the corpse thief Claw.
Leo Ramirez
Not an argument.
Julian Brown
yes it is you retard >muh meme man
Eli King
That is what I suspect yes. Its not Overpowered and is pretty fair IMO. Its' fast, its' killey but its weak.
Gavin Myers
Chaos are going to be getting many more legions/warbands, so it makes sense for the five books to be: Space Marines, Chaos, Imperium, Xenos, Scenery
Jeremiah Kelly
Maybe the keyword system will mean that you can attack Hameys to Grotesques and use their leadership. Themeatically it makes sesne, since Grotesques need a Hamey to order them around. Also, Im praying that due to Gathering Storm fluff, Khekerach the decapitator (whatever the fuck his name is) and Mandrakes will become actually decent. I love the models, but the rules hurt me...