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when painting a mordheim mercenary warband, would you use your own colours or take them from an existing scheme? finding it very hard to come up with something that isn't in the heraldry book
Jaxon Davis
>there is no real chance of an Age of Sail while the Asur keep a lid on Human Naval movement, even so explorers have to dodge High Elf patrols.
As far as I was aware, the High Elves had more or less stopped this, and the mystic veils and fogs had dropped? Practically everyone has a colony or two in the New World/Naggaroth/Lustria, including even the Norscans.
>on top of that a Industrial Revolution would shatter the empires unique composition and just move it closer to historical stuff which other anons mentioned already- wouldn't be too thrilling in practice.
I get that, at least long-term, but that's really to be expected, and I see no reason why it'd somehow be less interesting. I would never propose to move the timeline forward or anything, I'd only ever suggest this as an alternative setting or so, or a "What if..".
I could see it all being a lot Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura, and it would likely unite the Empire even further in the end. The Old World is already clearly heading towards an Age of Exploration combined with a long-term Industrial Revolution, all you need to do is extrapolate.
Oliver James
since Dark Elfs are WHFB 'Muricans, does it mean there are Dark Elf cowboys?
Nolan Gonzalez
Sorry, wrong picture.
Connor Carter
the first pic was better tbqhwyf
Jacob Allen
That is going to book.
Levi Mitchell
No.
I was going to say that in the future, there might be, but at the same time, I realized that elves live too long to probably make real use of any advances of the industrial revolution. They may adopt and adapt some, but the dark elves going full cowboy feels unlikely.
Not impossible, I guess. The youngest ones might strike out on their own. The real issue as I see it is that the colonization of not!North-America is going to force a massive confrontation with the Dark Elves. Fortunately, there's a lot of land up until the border of their lands.
That being said, much of not!North-America is completely unexplored, fluff-wise. I find it hard to believe that there wouldn't be West-Coast elves of some kind, or that everything between not!Canada and not!Mexico would be uninhabited.
Isaac Stewart
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Josiah Roberts
so it is true that all competent sculptors are reserved for HH
Lincoln Sanchez
noice
Jack James
they can use repeater hand crossbows those have holsters and small magazines, right?
>Malekith made us Dark Elves and Col'thas (the repeater hand crossbow manufacturer) made us equal.
Bentley Walker
Sexy.
Benjamin Wood
I never understood the point of Silver Helms. they are just discount Dragon Princes with less swag
Jonathan Mitchell
what do young Dark Elves do when they have that angsty teen rebel phase? they are already edgelords
Bentley Bennett
Are they really? Maybe most dark elves are just relatively normal folks. They were once all just elves, the difference is purely political.
Jack Gray
>As far as I was aware, the High Elves had more or less stopped this they have not, High Elves, even during and immediately before the SoC, most likely afterwards too, regulated the Human Oversea traffic, most notably they prohibit the travel to the New World by Human Explorers and Pirates, despite that many get through, but you can't expect any large scale colonisation or sea travel between the two continents while High Elves still have a Navy to dwarf the Maritime Powers of the Old World.
>The Old World is already clearly heading towards an Age of Exploration the Old World can't even colonize the Badlands, or pacify the Norscans, not even in the Southlands, them grabbing Land overseas is a pipe dream, and don't forget the Lizardmen, who by this point have demolished most of the Colonies that were established, and the Dark Elves who would raze and enslave any colonies established north of Hexoatl. Dark Elves aren't the settings Murricans, and I don't remember Hudson bay having a whole lot of Cowboy culture. that looks beautiful, but, >Silver Helms >anyone but the High Helm having an adorned helmet
Luis Richardson
that goblin looks like my chunk of blu-tac after I absentmindedly twist and squeeze and mash it
Andrew Scott
Not every elven knight should be Dragon Prince.
Nolan Jones
Silver Helms are the regulated Cavalry Company.
Dragon Princes are young Caledori Nobles taking a vacation on the Battlefields.
Caledor also has Silver Helms.
Austin Lee
they try to ride cold ones
to do so they cover themselves in their mucus which is smelly as fuck and almost singlehandedly make you lose the sensibility of your skin for the rest of your life
then from teen edgelords they become adult nobles: the dull salarymen of elven society
Xavier Jenkins
skip Skinning Classes and hang out with the local Witch Elves.
the especially stupid ones join a Corsair Crew and never their degree in Advanced Slavery until they reach 300 and have to go to evening school before wokring as a Slave Castration Office Accountant for the rest of their bleak and monotonous lives, counting ballsacks until they throw themselves off the highest tower in Karond Kar.
Adrian Mitchell
Use your family coat of arms.
Camden Morales
carroburg here i come
Aiden Rodriguez
do daemons of incomprehensible and everchanging Chaos always look like minor variations of each other, or the minis we get is just an approximation, or the most well-known version or something?
Carter Smith
yes
Samuel Bailey
in my headcanon the four flavoured demon allegiances are the small minority of daemons in the realms of Chaos, while the vast majority of Daemons are shapeless and masterless beings not bound to either of the four gods, and often manifesst in the shapes imagined by Mortals when entering the Mortal Realms.
example, Chaos Furies, one of my favourite old models.
Levi Allen
As an atheist male feminist who enjoys WHFB 6th, how should I prep my wife for Muscular Stormcast Cosplayer BBC ? You all do that on a daily basis so I need your help.
Jaxson Hughes
>whfb 6th players >being male feminists >having a wife
Gabriel Price
>not recognizing intentionally obvious bait
Ian Scott
IIRC they have a varied look allthough common core elements.
Blake Cruz
>implying I didn't tangentially related greentext and then a smug anime girl was the procedure as far as I remembered
Gavin Powell
THank you VERY much for this information, the fact that you answer the question long after it's posted really cheers me up!
All the information you posted is super-relevant to the game I'm going to try practice on this weekend. = )
Did not know about the standard/magic standard difference, thanks for explaining that in an easy to understand way!
Jacob Lee
I was the one who posted the Industrialized Empire question last thread, nice to see it got attention. And what do you mean it would be a more boring option? Because in my head I'm seeing a Warhammer version of Fall of the Samurai, and it seems like it would be cool. Especially when that advancing Empire starts expanding. As well, the original adventure I was writing was to take place in Norsca as the Empire was starting to get imperialistic towards them, starting with trade companies and then maybe escalating to an invasion. Any advice on handling that?
Hunter King
How do Vampires make thralls? Do they just have to feed and not kill them or is it an intentional ritual or thing like hypnotizing them?
Connor Cook
it's basically a Glamour, the weaker willed the target the easier it is.
Nathan Ward
Dead Thread
Mason Cook
It's not dead until there's nobody left to bump it. Also still waiting on to get a response.
Carter Hernandez
>one hour between posts >on Veeky Forums user please. Go play video games if you're too ADHD for comfy boards and threads.
Jeremiah Reed
reposting from last thread as it didn't get an answer before thread ded
I'm trying to figure out a good army for warhammer 8th edition 'regiments of renown' ruleset. I have the following empire units I could choose from Knights Wlances Reiksguards Greatswords swordsmen Archers 1 handgunner
I Just don't know what effectively kills stuff
I Often fight 100points of dryads or chaos
My usual list is as follows. inner circle Knight leader, sw handgunner xgreatsword then an assortment of greatswords and handgunners.
Mason Rivera
>including even the Norscans >even the Norscans >even
They are the best shipwrights and sailors aside from the elves...
Hunter Smith
Actually...I might buy this if the price isn't ludicrous.
Austin Jackson
there's not a lot to add to that argument, you think a modernized and centralized Imperialistic Empire would be cool, other anons think it would remove the Charme of the Empire.
Opinions differ, you can't have an objective argument based on it. It also requires a Warhammer World where High Elves have lost all their Influence, which won't sit right with a lot of People.
It makes for a skubby Fanfiction, but I wouldn't put too much time into that idea.
Michael Robinson
Nobody has colonies in the New World except the Norscans and the Elves
The Empire has no interest in the sea and last time Bretonnians went to Lustria nobody returned
Noah Roberts
Estalia does, and technically so do the Vampires
Adam Clark
One Vampire stranded there, doesn't make them the Spanish Conquistadors.
Aiden Rodriguez
>best shipwrights
indeed >stone age technology >logs roughly filed with axes is closest they have to planks >tackling is two ropes at best >questionable if even aware of iron nails >shitty one-mast one-deck drakkars is pinnacle of seamanship
indeed
Ian Howard
Daemons originally didn't have that lore. Once upon a time, lore and models matched closely rather than models following lore and GW constantly added new factions.
Then they fired the guy that literally designed all of Chaos but ripped off his designs since he still actually owned them, and every model afterwards has just been minor changes to that.
So even though Chaos became infinitely varied, they just kept releasing minor variations to what he came up with and added nothing actually new.
If a new release comes out it will be N/K/S/T and will fit the themes he invented for them.
Isaiah Cook
Depends on how industrialized
Also the Empire already tried to conquer Norsca in the Lore, but they simply can't hold it. Even if they manage to submit the belligerent tribes on it, remember that Norsca is completely and utterly corrupted by Chaos, even it's ground and mountains and wildlife.
With the influence of Chaos, the tribes would rise to rebellion constantly, and all empire colonist would gradually get corrupted and devolve into the native barbaric way.
Oliver Rivera
Empire has colonies in Albion and Southlands.
Asher Collins
>and last time Bretonnians went to Lustria nobody returned Wasn't that just some stupid knights thinking they could slay dragons there? They have a powerful navy, but there seems to be no good reason for them to establish colonies elsewhere.
Xavier Davis
Albion is right next to them and is completely cut off from the world by magic, the Southlands are overrun by beastmen
even if they had colonies, they don't anymore
Hudson Brooks
Lahmians feed without killing. Everyone promises power. Strigoi get willing Thralls in the Strigany, and all Vampires get Ghouls as willing as well.
Lincoln Turner
>Wasn't that just some stupid knights thinking they could slay dragons there?
yes
Henry Roberts
Norscans are competend Sailors, not good Shipwrights.
Christopher Scott
>the Southlands are overrun by beastmen when did that happen?
Gavin Morris
Around 7th edition i guess. I remember distinctivelt seeing a map of beastmen propulation in the world and the Southlands and Ind were packed full
more that that, it's actually the home of most of clan pestilens after Sotek kicked their asses off Lustria. If the Empire had a colony there (which i never heard of) it's long gone
Adam Evans
I like to headcanon it so that Bretonnians have a pair of small islands off the Scorpion coast of Lustria. They act as a place to gather forces for searches for gold, of course, but their main reason for existence is sugar cane - they have to keep important peasants to keep harvesting the stuff, but even the deathtoll from heat and injury can't make a dent in the large profits that are made.
The whole fiefdom is on rather shaky ground, since its Lord isn't well regarded back home - he lost his lands back in Bretonnia proper, which is why he set out for Lustria in the first place. Even ignoring whatever shame there was, he is far more profit-focused than most nobles. And Bretonnian law isn't entirely clear on how this fief should be treated, since it's so distant from Bretonnia itself, and it's seen as unchivalrous to hold 'foreign territory' as some sort of colony.
Joseph Howard
you do know that the Beastmen density on the map doesn't actually mean they are in a position to take over anything?
Also the Southlands and Ind combined have about the same density as the Empire and Forest of Arden, not too severe. Most of the Beastmen live in the Chaos Wastes, Populations on other parts of the World are mainly scattered bands that live nomadically and hide in the Forest BECAUSE they are not in the position to take over anything.
Clan Pestilens being based in the Southlands doesn't impact this at all, since they aren't able to project any force there.
And not even the "packed full" areas are controlled, or "overrun" by Beastmen, since they are the bitches of both Norscans and Chaos Tribes in the Wastes.
I really don't get how people get the idea all the time in Post-Anything discussions that "Beastmen took it over" or "overran that region", since their two most achieved Individuals, only ever had the impact of razing a few Middenland Villages or causing a ruckus in Athel Loren in Khazrak and Morghur respectively, Beastmen are the fodder and guerillia fighters of Chaos, not a World Ending Doomtide lurking in the Forests.
Caleb Walker
Sudenburg is still a thing by the time of the Storm of Chaos if I'm not mistaken.
Sebastian Kelly
Does anyone have the updated Zweihander - Grim & Perilous Rulebook so we could finally play WFRP like civilized people?
Owen Rodriguez
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Christian Scott
>mentioning AoS OP is still a faggot
Jason Nguyen
More like coldboys
Blake Ramirez
But that's in Araby, right? not the actual southlands
Also how come nobody ever mentions it in any WFRP books or recent lore?
Evan Murphy
wew lad, not every elf is born a prince
Carter Thomas
>stone age technology >questionable if even aware of iron nails They're vikings, not cavemen, jesus. Also clinker-built ships, while invented earlier than carvel, are not necessarily superior. Carvel-built ships can be bigger but they are less efficient and robust. Which is part of the reason the vikings discovered the Americas so early.
Luis Bailey
>recent lore because it's not standing in Archaons way of total planetary fedora tippery.
Thomas Jenkins
It's in the gulf of Medes, between Araby and the Southlands.
And just while we're on the subject, let's pull up some direct quotes.
Michael Torres
Anyone know where i can find some official or even fan-made info about Albion and it's people?
I'm running a WFRPG soon and i was thinking on having the players have a field trip there
Luis Rivera
There isn't a lot. Try taking a look at the 'Warhammer Dark Shadows (6ed)' pdf in the first link in the OP. That's probably the best official source. Other than that there's long-outdated early Warhammer material like The Tragedy of McDeath.
Carter Sanchez
most of it is Gigaskub tier since the only people interested in it are Celtboos.
example:"their Druids were taught by the Old Ones and their mastery of High Magic is greater even than that of the High Elves."
they were also the true cause behind defeating the Original Chaos Invasion and so on.
Ryder Walker
Didn't stop the Lizardmen from taking it over and turning it into Lustria 2.0.
Which is funny given how much Brits hate Mexicans.
Ethan Garcia
Necromancers tote the line between living and dead right? Can this happen to animals?
Connor Wright
Thank you bois
I'm not planning to do much with it anyway, really. I'll probably have them recover some lost lore of a wizard that went there and vanished, and maybe learn a thing or two about waystones while fighting naked men and swamp demons
Aaron Rodriguez
>The Tragedy of McDeath. Mannfred mentions him in TWW.
Christian Rivera
>Which is funny given how much Brits hate Mexicans. We do?
>most of it is Gigaskub tier since the only people interested in it are Celtboos. I mean the people of Albion are still naked living in mud huts in the swamp. That doesn't sound very celtaboo to me. The fact that they are living next to super high tech old one ruins is kind of an irony more than anything else.
It pretty much happens to anything exposed to Dhar it mutates them
Isaiah Cook
Humans do
Gavin Morgan
Man, the BBC has its share of problems, but that video is terrible.
Are we really saying the British hate Mexicans because Top Gear did some jokes about Mexicans being lazy? They take the piss out of everyone, especially themselves.
Jason Myers
Top gear mocks everything and everyone but the Chileans. And that was because they were lynched out of Argentina and had to ask for asylum.
Eli Perez
What's your favourite army design/lorewise? I love the Tomb Kings and Skaven, the general concept for Skaven society is really interesting and unique.
Adam Hill
Anybody have any pics of pink empire models? I bought some P3 paint and it looked nice in the bottle but I brought it home and it's just fucking pink.
Thomas Rodriguez
Everything but WoC, Tzeentch Daemons, and Beastmen looks good to me.
Brody Allen
I am an aboslute slut for anything ancient Egypty, so Tomb Kings are a definite favorite.
Henry Anderson
Generally speaking my favourite is High Elves, but there are designs and snippets of lore from most factions I really like.
Lucas Turner
Do their ships manage to travel around the whole whf world? Aye they do. Guess they are kinda good at ship building. It's rather hard to raid all over the world with shit ships.
Camden Reyes
The story of Skeggi always gets me. >raid Lustria >not because glory or lust for blood >but to pay the bride price for mah waifu >found a settlement >not naming it after something awesome I did >neither something to honor the gods >but after my first dautheru
Norse confirmed for secret softies.
Colton Edwards
so do Orcs on Rafts?
Norscan ships aren't that sophisticated, they fulfill their purpose well enough but they are not second best shiprights to the Elves. Dwarfs build objectively better ships, and for all we know so do the Southern Realms.
Jonathan Nelson
I'm a pleb so death metal vikings get me off.
Jose Butler
at least you aren't in denial about it.
Juan Flores
I love vampire counts. There is just something so cool to me about Ghosts and shit fighting mortal armies. I am currently working on a 2,000 point army for 6th ed and I am having a blast. Also I love WoC and Skaven(Which I have large armies of)
Colton Sanders
where did this come from? Where did pic related come from?