That Guy Thread

>So, last D&D session.
>GM time-skips the travel time a bit, more than fine.
>Asks if we wanna do anything for the first week.
>Goes 'round, people say standard stuff like crafting items, whatever.
>Gets to the Ranger, he simply says that he wants to steal the horses, run ahead and warn the next town over of our arrival because apparently doom travels with us.
>Be me.
>Playing a Paladin charged with protecting the party.
>Ranger succeeds on his checks, steals the horses, rushes to the next town, warns them of our coming and makes sure the gates are shut to us.
>An hour is wasted trying to sort this out, but the gates are opened.
>He's gonna do this for every settlement along the way.
>Tfw.

Whelp. Fun sessions ahoy for me. Cast judgement, join in with my bitching or whatever. Hell, if you guys would suggest Oath of Devotion Paladin flavored vengeance, go for it.

That Guy thread I guess.

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In character actions:
- Does the ranger have an actual reason for doing this or just being a dick?
- If you know it's him ic, challenge to a duel and/or kill him. He's insulted your honor.

Out of Character:
-Confront the player and tell him to cut his shit.
-Talk to the gm, kinda seems like the player is being a dick and taking away from the sessions.

The IC reason is that during his time with the party, whatever settlements we've gone to have for the most part, got fucked after our arrival (we do have a demon army on our tail).

Therefore he thinks that's it better if we've just barred from getting inside the walls like pariahs.

GM has said, "It's his character. I can't tell him he's DOING IT WRONG."

The Player won't cut his shit. He's been going with this storyline for a bit but has never acted on it IC until now. Said it would be 'interesting' and since he's making sure that there are little stalls set up outside the town walls/whatever he's doing nothing wrong.

In fact he's doing the most Lawful thing ever (the Ranger is LN). Despite the fact that the Ranger's superior has told him to cut that shit out.

As for the duel, I'm tempted to wait for the Tempted Soul to crack first.

*Favored Soul

I just say ditch him. Kick his character off the party. After all, it's what your characters would do.

>That Guy thread I guess.

>playing nWoD Vampire when it was fresh
>That Guy is the GM
>accepts everyone and anyone
>lets a 14 yo kid play a fishmalk serial killer
>lets edgelord play a VII aligned custom clan
>throws hundreds of storylines at us and forgets about them next session
>suddenly Cthulhu rises from the sea because of kid & edgelord shenanigans
>nobody but the kid goes to the next session

I'm pretty sure he was just running games just to see how much bullshit a person can endure.

What I find weird is the player is usually pretty alright as a player. Must be the D&D tard catching on.

Literally just kick the ranger from the party. Congrats to the player his character is now an npc, time to make a new one.

Demon army on your trail, because walls are going stop that.

Also, why do all these towns believe the ranger? He's a random stranger riding in, probably wild eyed screaming about a demon army.

Depending how much time the ranger is wasting as well and your group, just show signs of boredom, pull out your phone, etc. Don't split the party because it's boring for those not involved.

I don't think he is being a That Guy. His IC reasoning is sound, and he even goes out of his way to make the inconvenience to the party lessened by getting them to set up stalls for you. Is the Demon army hunting you specifically? In that case he may very well be completely in the right, and it's something your paladin should consider. And if he is wrong, prove it to him, completely bypass a town the long way and if the town is still destroyed he will realize he had mistaken the nature of the threat. Alternatively, it could prove him right.

Or you can kill his character with your paladin for the IC reason of being an inconvenience and complain about him on the internet. Both That Guy things to do.

Eh, I can see what his character is thinking, so deal with it in character. Probably by looking back on the razed remains of the first town you walk past.

Just think about it. If his character thinks he is responsible for the deaths of countless people just so he can have a comfy bed for a night, then his actions are very reasonable.

Interact in character, figure that shit out, have a richer roleplay experience because of it. This is half the fun in the game.

>ranger goes to warn next town
>party ditches him in the meantime
>comes back to empty camp
>wizard casts fly so no tracks to follow

>pic
Is he a furry?

>Ranger goes to next town
>Party heads to a completely different town
>Party heads to a completely different region
>Party heads to a completely different plane
>Ranger left a sputtering madman, riding on forever warning peaceful villages of imminent threats and demon armies, though none ever seem to show up

Could also just direct him to a deep wilderness or place where he's unlikely to escape easily, or better yet a place where the horses are likely to get their legs broken and strand the Ranger, and head the opposite direction so you'll have a head start.

Do this OP:

>be alchemist
>walking through the street in a secret mission
>suddenly a lady offers me tea
>politely say no
>DM: she isn't inviting you, you go and drink tea
>okay.jpg
>keep advancing
>sometime later a man offers a ride
>say no
>DM:you enter into the car
>what
>DM:the guy quickly leaves the car, locking the doors
>wtf
>DM:you see that there is a bomb under your foot, who will explode if you move. What do you do?
>spend the rest of the session trying to defuse a bomb

This game didn't go past session 1. I wonder why.

He's a stranger with a shit ton of money to bribe 'em with.

Not being hunted. Can't really bypass towns because of the railroad. Do I have to apologise for a bit of bellyaching? Because we were on the way to PLOT but pretty much nothing happened that session. Hell, the GM ruled that we got 0 XP from it.

We've had enough infighting already, and that's all will come out of this little stunt, unfortunately.

The railroad is strong. xD

Time to bring this train out of rails then.

Crash it with no survivors!

And to think I was gonna be nice to the newb GM...

It'll be worse when the campaign ends (if it even gets to that point) and he finds out no one was having fun and it was all his fault. I've fucked up in DMing before and it's better to get called out on your shit while it's happening so you can try to fix it than only finding out after it was over and feeling like you wasted everyone's time.

Yeah he's gone too far. This is the kind of shit that really irritates me as a player. I've had to deal with it before, and trust me, it's not pretty. Now, I know you are a paladin and thus Lawful Good, but there might be another party member who might be annoyed by this bullshit as well. Specifically, a wizard or sorcerer, and one with fewer moral scrupules as yourself. Now, this is a stretch, but try to find out if the ranger has any family. Maybe do a divination spell or scrying or some other shit. Then, the wizard can find the nearest family member, preferably a lover, even better a childhood lover, as that is linked to deep primal psyche shit. Deal with them as you please. A wizard should be able to come up with something pretty good. Grease plus burning hands makes for a fairly agonizing death. Or use hold person and tie them up before torturing them to death. Whatever it is, make sure the wizard is watching carefully, as the next step is to cast Nightmare.

d20srd.org/srd/spells/nightmare.htm

This spell allows you to send a nightmare to any creature in unlimited range. Next time the ranger sleeps, he will see in his dreams his beloved being raped, cut apart, left to die slowly. Or his brother slaughtered in cold blood. Or his mother blasted apart by magic missiles. Whichever. Then when he awakens, he will realize he is responsible for their deaths, by being a fucking twat. Or he'll make more trouble for you. Either way, your group will get off scot-free. You might have to kill the wizard, too, but the ranger will be out of the way, and honestly losing a couple characters to get rid of one annoying prick is not that bad. I once wiped out three characters of a group because the fourth was annoying me, so it could be worse.

Main problem is that I don't think any of our spellcasters have access to the 5e knockoff of that spell yet.

Also I think his family was killed during the not mafia raid on the dwarven city he was from.

So I guess I have a That DM story?

Kinda long and we were all betas but goddamn.

I went to my local game shop's roleplay night with my boyfriend. There were six of us players and then the DM. All of us were couples, me and my boyfriend, another girl and her boyfriend and two guys who were obviously dating. The DM said we'd be playing an All Flesh Must Be Eaten hack meant to be played in a medieval setting; so far so good.

Then he said he had forgotten the rulebook at home so we'd have to improvise. First red flag. We ignored it in favor of trying to have a good night (and also because we got there late so all of the tables were already full except for this one.) Right before we start, the DM insists on getting me to switch seats with the two gay guys so I'm sitting closest to him. I refuse, because that would mean I'd be two seats away from my bf and that substracts from the fun for me.

Then he pressures the other girl into doing it, she looks at her boyfriend and then at the rest of the players, waiting for us to say something. The gay guys are obviously weirded out but not doing anything, my boyfriend tries to cut in with "Hey, how about everyone stays where they are?"; the DM snaps at him and tells him to shut up.

I'm getting more worried, everyone's looking distressed but since nobody's saying anything, I decide to stay quiet. The girl moves her seat next to the DM. Character building rolls around; the girl writes a (fairly generic) tomboy character who -- in her own words -- "isn't trans or anything but she prefers to go by a guy's name and wear guy clothes". So she wanted to be called Sam, but her name was Samantha, that type of shit. The DM refuses to take this and actually mocks her for it, passing the sheet around to everyone in the table in an effort to try and get us to laugh.

We're all uncomfortable by now but too deep to back off, or at least that's how I felt.

It goes by pretty innocent, I'm a cleric and my bf is a wizard, the gays are a fighter and a barbarian, the other couple are a rogue and a paladin.

We eventually run into a cow and the DM decides to show hands-first how the cow acts by rubbing and feeling the girl's arms, shoulder and waist. We're uncomfortable, the gay Barbarian quips something like "Does the cow want to fuck her too? I'm right next to it!"

The DM shrugs and says something with a double entendre, something like "It'd touch you too but you might get excited." The DM is an overweight, bald man with the single grossest neckbeard I've ever seen and he's assuming everyone will get turned on by his touch or something, okay.

Needless to say the girl and her boyfriend leave after sharing desperate glances at each other, leaving just 4 of us. The fun was just about to begin.

The barbarian and fighter are actually decent RPrs and their characters are also a couple. The DM says that this is the medieval times so gay relationships are frowned upon. The Barbarian interrupts again and says "We're both way stronger than the average person, who cares?" This pisses the DM out big time.

He railroads the Fighter away from the party and into an open field with a treasure lying right in front of the mud. He says he doesn't take it, his character is more like a monk than a warrior so he doesn't care for earthly needs. The DM says "We'll go back to the group so you can make up your mind." "I made up my mind. I don't wanna grab it." "It's a lot of money!!!" "So?!"

This sounds more like a That DM thing. Inter-party discussion about moral obligations shouldn't be forced, but he should be engaging you in it more. When characters manage to deal with significant obstacles (even non-combat ones), they should receive some amount of XP, NPC favor, or something.

If he's building up to that, he might wanna tell you OOC that there'll be a payoff to what otherwise looks like him unable to do anything but his set plot.

...

I have a that DM that literally lead to my Male character's rape and had to make wisdom saving throws to not get turned on.

Had two kids because of it.

>Also I think his family was killed

Of course they were.....

>GM has said, "It's his character. I can't tell him he's DOING IT WRONG."
Fuck that noise. The GM is there to make sure in-character but highly disruptive actions that no one else will enjoy don't occur.

I am a GM that lets players play however they want, and I have had stuff like this. I encourage the other characters to play how their character would react, and if that means killing them then that's how it's gonna be settled.

You can act like a jackass and do whatever you want, but not everyone is gonna like that.

I had a DM do the same with me.

I wouldn't call him that DM through, since it was a nice wolfkin who just wanted children. But no way I could oblige being a paladin, so...

>That guy sperged out when his character almost died twice in two different sessions with two different DMs due to his own stupidity
>claims that we didn't "telegraph" the power level of the creatures enough
>audibly having a panic attack on the other side of the microphone
>try to join one session to get away from him
>that guy is signed up for every single session for the next week

I just posted this in another thread but I'll ask here too to because I was slightly off topic in the other thread

Am I being That DM by requiring my players to paint their minis.

For context, nobody is required to buy their paint or supplies, and only one player out of 6 is refusing.

For even more context:
>my argument is that I'm putting an effort into making an immersive table for my players so I feel fair in asking that their miniatures at least match
>her argument is that she's afraid to mess up

I've got this guy in my party who is a total autist. We got a bunch of XP after a while and he takes his character sheet home to spend it and somehow he comes back as a literal god. He can never miss a shot where we miss most of ours, he has a bunch of crazy perks, and has better base stats over everyone. He can pretty much just one shot any enemy that is thrown at him. I didn't want to be a dick and start going through his points but we both had the same class, the same amount of XP, and spent it on the same kinds of things and I'm not even half to where he is.

On top of all that we've got like 3-4 different heavy item drops and 2 weapon mods. Every single time he claims them for himself. I've suggested several times that the rest of the party is stuck with their basic gear and can hardly do anything where he has about 4 different items that he can't even use together but he refuses and gets mad every time. It's not even like he found them or anything- just claimed them. He's also chaotic neutral and thinks it's really funny to try to kill allies and generally be an ass.

Really just makes the whole thing terribly boring.

Paint it for her.

It feels like there is more here.

So does the story just end there?

She's afraid of anybody messing it up

Show her how you painted your miniatures.

Are you a fag or a gril?

>they've all been playing D&D, while I've been playing exalted

A female is going to join our game, she's the co-worker of one of our group.

>Playing 2nd edition, low magic game setting
>she shows up 15 minutes late (no big deal)
>she calls like 8 times in the 15 minutes to let us know she's trying to find the house (still no big deal)
>she shows up and says, I've never actually played 2e guys.
>We say, we'll be patient and help her all she needs
>explain that it's a low magic setting, magic is fairly rare/not common
>She understands.
>Said she's made a charc sheet already for this game (that she's never played)
>Shows it to the DM
>It's a half angle/half demon vampire chick who's being sought after by all the legions of hell and heaven, because they all want to marry her and make her queen of heaven/hell.......AND ...
>Because her PC is SO "awesome at military fighting and stuff " That she will eventually turn the tide of the never ending battle between heaven and hell
>I said "I made a human fighter"
>Another player says "I made a gnome illusionist"
>DM says "ok, that specific sheet won't really fit into the game, we'll help you make a new one"
>She says, why won't it fit? Just "Make the stat numbers fit, by fudging them a bit, and it should be fine"
>DM says "ok, we really want you to play, and enjoy yourself, so we'll pause and explain some of the basics, and then help you roll up a charc"
>She frowns and agrees
>Rolls up a decent mage, and knows exactly no spells.
>What games have you played before ma'am? we ask
>She said "Well, I've watched a lot of shows like buffy and Angel and a lot, i mean a LOT of movies", and gave a chuckle
>15 minutes later she left, and promised to read up on the rules and all that 'stuff'.
>Hoping we never see her again

>>It's a half angle/half demon vampire chick who's being sought after by all the legions of hell and heaven, because they all want to marry her and make her queen of heaven/hell.......AND ...
>>Because her PC is SO "awesome at military fighting and stuff " >That she will eventually turn the tide of the never ending battle between heaven and hell
>>I said "I made a human fighter"

I lol'd

We have a really touchy "alpha male" Russian guy who always insists on being party leader and soft- insults everybody but me because I'm his best friend and DM

>playing with minis instead of your imagination or clearly superior computer tools

I don't know man, I guess I never understood minis and models and shit beyond LEGO blocks, but to me you're That DM, yeah.

Forgot pic lol

Seems like a cool guy

Looks like a discount Eliott Rogers.

I don't know what this means

Satanic quads say give us more details

>time to start a new campaign
>that guy wants a character that leads his own congregation, worshipping some unknown god
>no details on what kind of church it is or who we worship only that it is "evil"
>for once I'm up for not playing a good character, so I say that's no problem with me
>He wants my character to be the groundskeeper for the church
>Alrightythen.jpg
>first session
>turns out he doesn't actually have a congregation yet, or a church, or anything really. Not even a cleric, just a he-larious sorcerer pretending to be one.
>my character is suddenly pretty pointless
>well, at least that guy will play some kind of party face I think
>nope, he basically plays like a shy old creepy pervert, that guy lays down and falls asleep like 4 times during the first session
>have to reinvent my character during the first session

how utterly pointless.

He's a hardcore Russian Putanist who used rides around town on a moped

He really enjoys making Asians/Ukrainians feel insecure and we do parkour together and get really drunk after sessions but he can't hold his liquor

>(we do have a demon army on our tail).

So let me get this straight, you cunts are travelling through civilised lands with a demon army right behind you instead of doing the right thing and leading them into the desert?

And you don't protect the cities you visit?

Yet you dare blame the ranger for trying to change your course, and you dare call yourself a paladin?

>can't hold his liquor

I thought Russians were supposed to be really good at that. Is he a manlet?

Exalted is a table top game where you play as fallen gods, so its saying that while they are meager adventurers, I am on god level.

He's 6"2
Nope

Not that it's that bad, but shouldn't you Avoid posting pics of someone to bitch about him (not that you're excessively mean but for the principle).

She's seen them AND she's seen the other's painted minis. We already had the first session. Only one other person had not done it and that was due to some personal time constraints, they're going to do it soon. Everyone's stuff looked great
We do minis for combat because we feel it's just flat out easier than the very loose and kind of GM fiat driven TOTM combat. It's better to have clearly defined minis than to have the DM going "oh yeah you're actually not in range" or "nope you actually were facing the wrong way so he gets advantage on attacking you"

He's my best bro it's all In good fun

I have a guy who isn't a classic "that guy" but he's just stupid, for lack of a better term. He keeps doing things, like talking in a language in front of a regional lord that he knows said lord doesn't understand, and not getting why the guy is offended. Or the time he insulted an important member of a mage's college,and then didn't get why the guy suddenly started charging more for his services, or just when he goes all Leeroy Jenkins and gives away the position of the rest of the party when they were trying to sneak around when he just charges blindly on.

I really don't think he does it intentionally to fuck the party over, I'm pretty sure he's just clueless about the probable consequences of his actions. But it puts me in a vise, to either punish him (and usually the rest of the group by extension), or just ignore verisimilitude entirely. But it seems poor sport to kick a guy for being stupid, but at the same time it really is disruptive.

sure sure mate, just so it's squared

>Playing D&D 2e as a bunch of newbies
>One player rolls a fighter
>Spends all their money on expensive custom weapon and body armor
>Insists on being in the back of the party formation because they "didn't want to get hurt"
>Attempts to murder a party member to steal their items
>Spends most of their time being lolrandom
I just hope they might learn from their mistakes...

>And you don't protect the cities you visit?
>Yet you dare blame the ranger for trying to change your course, and you dare call yourself a paladin?

I agree with this guy.

>tfw my DM never railroads me into my fetishes
Feels bad

>Playing D&D 2e

Good choice.

Look here's the thing. No matter how nice your board is and how nicely the minis are painted and how much terrain you pile onto it, most people are still only going to use it as a bookkeeping tool. You can hate theatre of the mind because it's hard to track combat, but it's still where all the action that matters happens.

He's not hosting the game, and he's not the GM, so can you remind me why you're playing with that guy?

>trying to change your course
Read the rest of the thread. They can't change course because the DM won't let them.

A girl.

Sorry. Work got busy.

The DM insists he has to pick up that chest, goes back to narrating what the rest of the party is doing, tries to reach over the tabLE, over both one of the gay guys and my boyfriend to pull the same thing he pulled on the girl that left; touching my arm while role-playing the cow.

Both of them stop him though, things are quickly getting out of control. The gay guys try to rein him in and the one that was in the swamp says fuck it, I grab the chest.

The DM puts on this shiteating grin, "you slip on the mod and are surrounded by six zombies. Roll to, get up". We say we're gonna try to help. DM says no, you're too far to know what's going on. We say we're worried about him being gone for so long in a zombie setting. "You can't, you know by now that people die a lot in the setting so you aren't attached to others." The gay guy talks again, "Yeah but that's my boyfriend and adventure partner so I'll go get him". GM Pulls an npc out of nowhere and locks us in the dilapidated farm we were in.

Long story short. Zombies had 95 hp, the fighter had 35 and he was the tank. He was torn apart. DM keeps railroading us with the NPC who goes from being rude and violent to nice and kind and back again.

The barbarian is obviously starting to get bored, the fighter is dead and keeps glaring at the dm. My boyfriend looks like he's ready to fight.

Barbarian plays the worried, angry brute in distress rather well, says he wants to roll for Notice in order to see if he can find his boyfriend. The DM says no, you have to get on the cart with the npc right now. We're literally railroaded into it again, plottwist, the npc betray us and uses us as bait for zombies. Plot twist, we have to fight a Lich right away. THE Lich that started the zombie apocalypse, the Barbarian starts at a disadvantage.

TPK. The Barbarian and my BF look like they're ready to Fucking jump the DM. The fighter leaves to smoke outside.

A fucking mess.

>GM time-skips the travel time a bit, more than fine.
>Asks if we wanna do anything for the first week.
>Goes 'round, people say standard stuff like crafting items, whatever.
Is this good gameplay? I was in a session where the GM did that and I didn't particularly like it, I felt detached.

I think you're misunderstanding just how much work went into the board we're using, and thats on me for the word choice i used. When I say "i put in an effort, I don't mean that its this insane hand crafted construction that I slaved over. It's not nearly that involved. It's painted minis on drawn graph paper. Same with my painting and the painting of the others, none of us are painters who are looking for professional level work. And you're also misunderstanding who's idea it was to do mini and board combat. But even if the situation was as you'd described, that still wouldn't be my issue. What matters to me is that everybody else involved with the game put that tiny amount of work into it except for one player, and I'm asking if putting the expectation on that one player to match everyone else at the table is being That DM or not. I mean our warlock even painted a mini for a familiar he doesn't have yet.

It's really rubbing me the wrong way,
it screams special snowflake to me.

>using literal minis
I literally use a Kinder Surprise toy for my character. No one cares and if anyone cared I would beat him up anyway.

>post in That Guy thread
>don't realize you are That Guy and possibly autistic

Buy her a new one, and then paint that one. Her concern is legit though, I would be afraid to destroy/ruin something that cost money. I ain't confident of my skills.

kek

Having everyone paint a miniature isn't something that would be high on my list of things to bolster player engagement as a GM, and as a player well, I just don't have any interest in miniatures so it would feel like an arbitrary requirement.

We're talking reaper minis. They aren't expensive user, they're > $10

It screams special snowflake and autism for me to force someone to paint a mini.
It's a fucking mini. It doesn't matters. She wants to play the game, not paint.

Someone who doesn't want to make a one paragraph backstory when it's likely it's gonna be relevant during the game? Sure, it's not good.
Someone who doesn't want to read the rules? Yeah, it's shit.
Someone who doesn't want to paint a mini? Who fucking cares.

She can still play the game just fine.

How could DMs like that be real. What a crazy story.

Post a photo of the board if it is so great.

Maybe she's being a little defiant because your overbearing ass is trying to force her to do things she doesn't want to do?

>I never played this shit guys
>Don't worry we'll help ya
>*Procedes to tell about the setting but absolutely nothing about the rules*

Here's why new people get scared of your grognardness

>He's a stranger with a shit ton of money to bribe 'em with

I thought he was LN? Bribery is a criminal act, hardly fitting with Lawful behavior, and a good reason for a paladin to kick his ass out

Lawful doesn't mean you follow the laws of the land, it means you follow what ever laws you live by.

Downtime is necessary and sometimes even obligatory. You can't play every single day of life of your PC, even if you want to

Talking out of personal experience here

>It seems poor sport to kick a guy for being stupid
Are you the DM? Because if so it's literally your job to punish that stupidity. Kick the guy for being stupid and disruptive.

Do you like to roleplay every little interaction? Every shop has to have a clerk that you can interact with and potentially barter with? You wanna roleplay going to a forge and smithing? You want to eloquently describe how you spend your long rest?
That shit slows down the game for people who don't wanna play house.

>It screams special snowflake to me
You're the snowflake autist who thinks painting little toys is really that important.

You
This guy is stupid and spiteful, don't believe him

What you need to do is make the consequences be consequences. Even if the rest of the party gets punished for it.
It's like in the military, if one fucks up, everyone gets punshed, so next time his own team mates will police him

It's actually not my fetish. DM is probably a furry through.

But I didn't mind because the NPC was extremely nice. We got three little kids of it.

Wait. If an Oath of Chastity paladin is raped, do they fall?

So what does Chaotic mean in that sense?

There is railroading, then there is your DM

fuck that shit

>Lawful neutral
>A lawful neutral character typically believes strongly in lawful concepts such as honor, order, rules, and tradition, and often follows a personal code.
Examples of lawful neutral characters include a soldier who always follows orders, a judge or enforcer that adheres mercilessly to the word of the law, and a disciplined monk.

I guess it all depends on whether bribery was legal anyway.
And I'm sure the paladin's version of Lawful, his code and ethics as it were, would still likely frown on the ranger's actions

No because it's not a voluntarily breaking of the oath, but an event forced on them by an external will

A paladin cannot be found guilty, although he might need to repent if he found pleasure in it

You do what ever the fuck your character feels like doing at any given moment.

i literally just said that it's just graph paper man

>Someone who doesn't want to make a one paragraph backstory when it's likely it's gonna be relevant during the game? We were going to share our backstories in a group chat before session 1. I asked everybody just to make something short and sweet so they didn't feel like they had to do a ton of work, and the players went all out, two of ended up writing over a page worth of back story for their characters with drawings and all kinds of extra shit. I had everyone but hers after a week, so I asked her what was up because I wanted to post them all together so nobody felt bad if theres wasn't as detailed as anyone else's. Her response? "Yeah I just have amnesia." I gave her a bunch of ideas for this and some examples of what she could use for plot hooks and stuff? Nothing. She eventually wrote something when I posted the rest of the parties backstories.

>Someone who doesn't want to read the rules?
This isnt her first time playing this game, and she refused to buy or pirate the PHB. And nobody knew she hadn't done this until she fucking showed up to the table without her character rolled. There are two newbies playing with us, both bought/pirated the PHB. The group decided weeks before Session 1 to roll the characters because we all wanted to jump right into the session. Those two newbies put in the work, asked and received help in character creation before we got started, and this player shows up with a "nobody told me to roll it" attitude and wastes 30 minutes of everyone's limited time rolling a character because she hasn't looked anything up and doesn't even have an idea about what she wants to play.

so maybe I'm the autist that you and but this is annoying as shit. I was trying to leave this out to be objective. There was never a "paint or don't play" demand, but there damn sure might be one now because this is getting old.

>typically

DM declared that not since 'it wasn't consensual'.

Basically she gave me a potion who made my PC extremely lustful, and then jumped at him, the screen quickly fading to black.

Does your DM play CoC?