4" for a melee unit seems terrible. Sure they're kinda tough and can get extra units. Seems that'll hardly ever happen though, maybe they're just good for holding and contesting objectives?
Wyatt Gonzalez
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Nathaniel Howard
Screening your more important units.
Nathan Hughes
From melee?
Won't do much for ranged attacks. And you'll need to walk your advancing other guys slowly if you want these guys still ahead.
Luke Flores
Are plague marines playable in SW:A and Kill Team? I want to mix them with daemons for "normal" games but run solo in "smaller" ones
Angel Bell
Marine player: Start Collecting kits are the same as the Starter Kit! Totally not forced guys!
What your 20 year old kits keep selling out even though they are old? Clearly it means marines are more popular.
Dominic Walker
>plasma guns only risk exploding if you overcharge them
How do you feel about this?
Kayden Myers
Do we know yet whether using your own troops for Cover is still a thing?
Julian Flores
concatenate threads
Ryan Harris
Decent trade off. The overcharged one is good for killing Marines but wasted on guards etc.
Gabriel Cooper
>Not even a real boy >Stills gets a model before Sanguinis
Blake Sullivan
Question: Building an army... this key word shit.
So I can make an army of "Faction" keyword?
EG: Imperium faction key word.
I could have an HQ that is a Terminator Captain of Ultramarines
Troops that are 1 squad of Imperial Guard Veterans, 1 squad of marines, 1 squad of sisters of battle
Heavy that are Grey Knight Land Raiders
and Elites that are Admech something or other...
All because they share the faction key word "Imperium"?
Chase Miller
Not plague marines specifically, but you can choose mark of nurgle for any marines in your kill-team, that pretty much makes them a plague marine, due to how much more durable they become.
Robert Russell
I like it. I have a squad of plasma chosen, and I'm glad that it's now optional and I can play it safe, though it's also disappointing that my Combi-plasma terminators won't be ultra immune to the results.
Carter Sanders
Did you miss the entire conversation where I point out how stupid you were?
I listed 6 different 40k games that didn't focus on marines.
I then pointed out that Marines out sold every single other product GW ever made when they were released. They did so well they wrote it into 40k lore
Yes. It will be balanced out in bonuses you get. a Chapter bonus will be better than an Astartes bonus which is better than an Imperium bonys.
Leo Campbell
The concept is fine but the regular variant is too good. Should've been like what SWA has them, around Tau Pulse level for non-overcharge, and s7 ap-3 for charged version.
Liam Turner
Ignoring outselling non marine products.
Marines are the CoD of miniatures, safe bet, nothing creative.
Julian Davis
The overcharged is great at eating primaris marines.
GW are the biggest company in the entire industry even with the worst rules. Hard to argue with their Marine plan you know?
Brayden Jackson
Doesn't make it less shit.
Onces you past your teenage years marines stop being fun.
Michael Martinez
wew
Ryan Thomas
>Primaris keep losing 2 wounds and 30" weapons and still get their ass handed to them? I wanted to like this guys, I'm dont know what to think now.
Hudson Nguyen
Well, I hope that noone will be sad if I use them to proxy CSM but maybe I will just buy an extra DV box - I found a store selling them with start collecting price
Christopher Jenkins
Dnd is the biggest player in their market with shit rules.
Being first counts for a lot more than anything else.
Jace Barnes
Yes tits, but unless we have some less shitty quality it means very little.
David Perez
I'd rather be first than last
Nolan Hill
Manlets When will they learn?
Zachary Young
well at least it quells some fears vis-a-vis GW making 40k more kid friendly by kinda shadow-banning slaanesh
Jeremiah Richardson
Primaris-are-taller-than-custodes fags BTFO
Hunter Russell
Poor girl of yours if any.
Anyone with half a brain knew that was false. It is a british company not an american one.
Mason Ross
All in
Jacob Johnson
By 2050 we are going to have action figures if the size increase continues.
Jackson Rivera
they did it for AoS
Camden Mitchell
I wouldn't worry about proxies dude, I'd welcome someone playing Chaos Space Marines in Shadow War with actual plague marine models, since nurgle is all anyone plays, for good reason.
Julian King
We can all agree AoS is kind of shit. It is neither WHF or Warmachine. Just the worst of both.
Nolan Cooper
>Chad marines loosing in box set games and not the tallest Just bend over and make this easy.
Joseph Mitchell
what is everyone's opinions on people who paint like shit? i paint like complete ass and I kind of feel bad when I play against someone who is an excellent painter.
has to look better than grey plastic though, right?
Robert Gray
Depends.
Nolan Barnes
>they did it for AoS Yeah, that's why Slaanesh daemons have renown values in Skirmish tables
Xavier Robinson
In a currency that matters please.
Samuel Perry
That is the one that matters.
Beside just convert the value to any of your third world money.
Aaron Brown
>numarines still manlets compared to the glorious warriors of the Dark Gods BTFO
Mason Cooper
not that much taller compared to the legionnary. Are FW marines taller than regular marines ?
Julian Phillips
fuck, people weren't kidding about the size of these primaris marines
Thomas Rogers
No, in the case of plastic MK IV they're actually a bit shorter than MK VII marines.
Samuel Morris
>Emperor's finest >already falling to Nurgle
Carter Nelson
>Ultramarines defeat a whole Hive Fleet by themselves >Blood Angels and all their successors get BTFO by a single tendril and have to be saved by Bob and some daemons Threadly reminder that Blood Angels players should be ashamed. Sanguinius's geneseed clearly causes incompetence.
Blake Collins
>Imperial navy actually defeats the hive fleet >Khorne daemons kill the tendril No hogging the honor marines.
Brody Gutierrez
whoever is in charge of the studio painting team now needs hanging.
These new, cartoon looking ass colour schemes for the best part of five years now are trash
Jayden Rivera
where have you been
Carson Taylor
I don't mind if someone looks they actually put some effort into it. Just following a Duncan tutorial will give you a tabletop army and it's totally paint by numbers.
Sebastian Hughes
away from 7th edition due to how cancer it is
John Mitchell
It's especially evident when you see similar models painted for FW.
Julian Cooper
>weeb meme shit taking the place of duncan again Jesus christ I hate you people. Take your japanese faggotry off this board already, Isn't it enough shitting up /pfg/?
Our lord and saviour Duncan doesn't deserve this.
Jaxon Ward
This Weebs are asking for the firing squad
Ryder Rogers
Yeah and it's too good. We have basically plasma that is laughably better than it was. Non-overcharge should at the very least have less armor pen.
Brayden Myers
Everyone has seen the Mortarion model tease on youtube, right?
Jace Sanders
Am I the only one who's worried about the power-creep the Primaris are going to cause? We can't seriously believe that the Tau and Eldar writers won't retaliate with new, better Suits and some Eldar 'Ynnead super-warriors' to match them and we'll be back to square one except all the original elite units get pushed to 2nd-tier.
Kevin Stewart
Primaris don't even seem that great.
Henry Lee
Don't be so hard on space marines. They cost like twice as much as a normie marine.
Jason Richardson
Are the Primaris marines even that strong?
Gavin Reed
They're in universe power creep but all their actual rules have been pretty fucking mediocre so far. Eldar and Tau will probably still mulch them which if anything is going to seem even better when you're doing it with your old and unmodified guys.
Juan Kelly
You think they'll be allowed to get new super warriors.
Primaris are a result of models over fluff/need. They had some cool new space marines but they didn't wanna overwrite the old ones so they just made em 'buff marines'.
Honestly they should have just made them normal marines and allowed you to use old ones as they slowly phase out.
Easton Powell
>Honestly they should have just made them normal marines and allowed you to use old ones as they slowly phase out.
They should have made the Primaris and all they're new unit just be Cawl making new toys (no gene fuckery needed) and Guilliman slowly returning Space Marines to Legion style organisation.
Anthony Taylor
I was more talking from a fluff perspective, ruleswise I'm well aware that they're not really OP and should've specified, but with all the 'and then the Primaris shat on the enemy' fluff we're about to get surely there's going to be retaliation.
David Miller
>haven't bought any new stuff for years nor played for 3 years >buy marine collector set
Why are the bases bigger?????
Jonathan Johnson
>collector set What the fuck is this?
David Kelly
>collector set ???
Parker Cruz
I'd imagine he meant Start Collecting!
And marines are on 32mm bases now.
Logan Barnes
Oh i dont care about the fluff since the new thing is Bobby G saves the day from all the threats.
David Price
>start collecting Oh, right. I'm newfag - I thought they always were on 32mm
Jordan Clark
Shit, really? >tfw all my old ultrasmurfs are not just marinelets but baselets
Owen Baker
Mine too.
The twist is they're a new army...
Brandon Sanchez
>see new indexes >SoB not even mentioned as a faction So this is how it ends, isn't it? No final goodbyes, no great achievements. Just me, eyaculating my last drops of life as I scream in laughter until terminal lung failure. I can already taste the infinite oceans of tears that will be produced by all 5 SoB players in prelude to their coordinated suicide, their souls sent screaming to face righteous retribution at the hands of the angels of the immaterium. Even though I feel the tides of the warp calling to me as well, I remain smug, for my eternal laughter will perhaps create a new warp entity. Thank you, GW. This a good pain. This is a good death.
My sides.
Jose Jenkins
top tier shitpost
Caleb Stewart
yeah I've watched some of his stuff, I'm having fundamental problems though. Like how much paint to have on my brush and shit.
Oh well, might as well just keep on practicing. So many fucking IG to paint.
David Perry
Yeah I got the start collecting box to get back into hobby with new stuff to add to my old. All the regular marines are on 32mm now. Which irritates me, a lot.
That means half my old army is on the wrong base
Charles Johnson
You do know they have a named character who is just a re-released old generic Sorcerer model but still who is actively seeking to release Slaanesh from its prison, and that the other Chaos Gods are watching to see what happens to it?
Slaanesh will probably bust free and start wrecking shit in AoS as soon as the new model line for Slaanesh is done, and we'll get a simultaneous release in 40K of new Daemons, Noise Marines, and other stuff.
Adrian Cruz
There was rumor of Fulgrim soon too.
Tyler Hughes
then all that insufferable memes about chadmarines and marinlets were unfounded ? great
Henry Perez
I mean they're still like 3/4 of a head shorter and a lot skinnier.
Camden Bell
>Emperor's finest >already falling to Nurgle >excess is Slaanesh >Totally not a phallic looking plasma incinerator
Ian Carter
Custodes are the only Marines I like, but their fluff is gay and stupid and gay.
Jaxson Phillips
What's wrong with them being the Emperors's finest of the fine fine finest? Besides who needs good fluff when you have this much style?
Jonathan Cruz
I wonder about this too. I wouldn't say mine is horrible, but it's definitely not that great. I think people don't mind so much as long as you clearly tried.
Hunter James
All marine fluff is gay and stupid. "Mu supa warrior wiv his massive manly designed body, massive manly gun and super special not! Mary sue weeb abilities". Not to mention the homo eroticism fluff.
Isaiah Martin
God forbid the jovial god's soldiers who walk about with beerguts and huge smiles look cartoonish
Grayson Davis
Well that depends on how bad and what kind of bad.
If it's the usual garden variety kind of bad then I can usually ignore it, though I would probably still rather look at an army that was just sprayed white. If it's horrifyingly offensively bad hen that's of course a very different situation. If it's a badly painted Forge World army then that's just the worst though.
Daniel Turner
120-ish bucks for the starter kit?
Combined with 20% FLGS discount?
I'm getting two holy fuck
Sebastian Nelson
Never dunk it in and aim to have less.
Hoard armies can look lazy, it's fine to do basic schemes. most important is armour and clothes, basecoat, wash, and a minor layer is fine for everything
Jace Hall
>implying the other factions aren't just as bad Don't kid yourself, 40k is just bad writing all around.
Adam Rodriguez
I'm genuinely considering starting a DKoK army to paint them up as Wehrmacht because I'm just that much of a wehraboo
Memes aside, how good/bad IS forgeworld resin? Is it actually worth it to buy entire armies from them?
Camden Johnson
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Nolan Jenkins
Assuming everything stays relatively the same in regards to in faction balance, is there really any point in taking grey knight strike squads now that all units score and terminators are better troop taxes?
Also I'm desperately hoping psycannons become heavy 4, even power armor psilencers are looking pretty decent now
Cooper Butler
The next Primarch for Chaos is Angron, then Fulgrim, btw.