/epg/ - Eclipse Phase General

They still have a couple options for playing Jovians, the Jovian Spy, Jovian Diplomat, and Jovian CBeat Specialist

The Ultimates were a suggested player faction in the 1E rulebook?

Yep! They were a mainline protagonist faction.

Yeah, they were one of the primary factions that was suggested.

Well, that's kinda shitty.

Yeah, you can definitely tell that the writers were anarchists because they have a tendency to call factions they don't like fascist.

Well they literally wrote the Ultimates as space fascists so that's not really that bad, but removing them from the playable factions is pretty shitty.

In the original core book they're more like gnostics or ultra-transhumanists. They don't seem particularly fascist until you get to the supplemental material.

That's apparently what they said though, that since they started taking the Ultimates into a more fascist stance later on with the supplements, they didn't feel like they should remain a PC faction.

Why draw the line at Ultimates? There are factions even more authoritarian and aggressive. The Jovians are literally a fascist military dictatorship and you can play them.