>almost the entire pro tour is RDW versus something else or another RDW
Ryder Foster
Since I suspect a ton of people will bring RDW to both the tour and Game Day, as it's cheap and easy, I've tried adjusting my New Perspectives deck a bit.// 60 Maindeck // 8 5 Forest 1 Island 1 Plains 1 Swamp
// 9 Creature 4 Shefet Monitor 4 Vizier of Tumbling Sands 1 Sphinx of the Final Word
// 9 Enchantment 3 Cast Out 3 New Perspectives 3 Gift of Paradise
// 12 Instant 4 Haze of Pollen 4 Renewed Faith 4 Shadow of the Grave
// 15 Land 3 Sheltered Thicket 2 Fetid Pools 4 Irrigated Farmland 4 Scattered Groves 2 Fortified Village
// 7 Sorcery 2 Razaketh's Rite 4 Traverse the Ulvenwald 1 Approach of the Second Sun
// 15 Sideboard // 1 SB: 1 Mountain
// 4 Creature SB: 1 Nimble Obstructionist SB: 2 Kefnet the Mindful SB: 1 Angel of Sanctions
Opinions on this build? The Rites help a lot with finding Perspectives when hitting 5 mana to make sure it lands the turn after and the side board is obviously primarily built against RDW with all that removal. Not sure if I'm keeping the angel and the second Kefnet in or to replace them with another Negate and an Essence Scatter.
Colton Myers
Most likely some kind of temur emerge or UR control deck. I really liked the deck played by Josh Utter Leyton that was shown on camera for a bit. He played temur emerge with hour of promise. Deep fiend into hour of promise seems pretty sick since it let's you eternalize champion of wits next turn
Gabriel Ross
When do Kaladesh and Aether Revolt rotate out? Looking to build RG Pummeler and I don't want to get fucked in the ass in 6 months
Noah Wood
September 2018
Juan Cook
Next fall
Wyatt James
4th quarter of 2018.
Jordan Kelly
Thanks senpaitachi
Aaron Diaz
Redpill me on RDW, it's cheap, seems to be very competitive and I like to burn things.
Should I go for it to get into MTGO?
Sebastian Green
Why not, you don't need our approval and like 50% of the pros are playing it
Gavin Long
I want to know if there are chances of banning since wizards just bans whatever is the most played every couple of months now.
Also how would it hold up in the next expansions given what has been released so far.
Josiah Richardson
No fucking way it will get something banned, there is not a key card that makes RDW good. Furthermore it's almost completely rotation-proof. It's impossible to calculate how Ixalan will impact the metagame and it won't hit for a couple of months.
Josiah Morales
Healthy diversity, I wonder what they will ban next. :^)
Jonathan Jenkins
>First tournaments >Surprised when the aggro/burn color gets to aggro unrefined decks to death
John Gray
I don't know enough about the deck to comment on it, I know turbofog is also a good option vs aggro. Thinking about building mono-U reservoir myself because it's cheap but I think aggro just steam rolls it.
Anthony Wright
About to head to FNM in a couple hours. Was wondering if I could get some help/tips with my deck. tappedout.net/mtg-decks/15-07-17-bg-snek/ I played pretty much this list except -1 Rishkar +1 Tracker last week and won the whole thing despite a fuckton of misplays and forgetting triggers. I asked for advice here as I was building it and someone suggested the 3rd Rishkar and possibly adding a Rhonas.
My store's meta is pretty exclusively U/X control and various weenie decks (humans and cats being the biggest threats) going off my experience the past few weeks, so I was wondering what changes I could make considering that. Should I cut my boy Gonti to make room for the 4th tracker and the Rhonas?
Benjamin Stewart
>Someone saved my picture I am moved. Anyway, anyone experimenting with Imminent Doom? Not sure how to feel about it.
Zachary Young
Having played the old NP deck, going down to 3 copies of your central combo piece is suicidal.
Tapping out T5 to tutor for it also seems quite awful because you can't fog and you can't censor or negate on the turn that many game-ending spells resolve.
Imo the deck loses so hard to control decks, of which there are plenty. RDW can be beaten by other strats without sacrificing your winrate to control. Zombies seems like a much better option.
Levi Morris
quick someone convince me to go to draft tonight
Cameron Ortiz
Don't, HOU has pitiful EV and it doesn't look like it's gonna improve with the PT.
Jeremiah Allen
HOU is fun to draft. Do you want to have fun?
Matthew Murphy
I'll admit it's the most fun draft environment since SOI but it's hard not to get salty when you're staring at
Alexander Morales
>salty about lottery cards >because of value and not because the guy is going to rape you with his wrath of god come on man, you should be used to getting screwed on booster packs by now
Anthony Harris
Literally every set people say it's fun to draft. Build a cube and draft to your heart's content for free.
On the contrary; BfZ was a trash draft environment. Honestly, so was SoI.
Leo Perry
HOU was severly underrated and it's actually a preety nice set. Sure, there are many trash rares, but also preety nice ones like Champion of Wits, Crucible Snek, Hour of Devastation, God Pharaoh's gift, the Mirror, etc.
It's actually preety decent desu
Jace Carter
What do you guys think about riddleform? It's a pretty nice card for 2 and the scry really helps in grindy matches.
Hudson Flores
Seems good. Probably want a Hazoret or two whenever you get your hands on it since you can end up running out of cards in hand really easily. I'm also a big fan of Soul Scar Mage in mono red aggro. Especially if people you play against are running a lot of AHK gods. Though thats more of a personal preference than a real suggestion. I've never played the HOU version of the deck so it might not be all that great.
Connor Kelly
I liked BfZ way more than HOUR
Jeremiah Price
worth slotting in a UR prowess type of build
Michael Torres
>unrefined Every other competitive deck got fuckall in HOU except for two uncommons. They're as refined as their going to get, and RDW is still putting up 75-25 vs. the field and an 80% conversion rate.
Anthony Lee
Went 2-2 with UR Spellboost tonight. I need sweltering suns.
James Gray
>try to make Scorpion God Mardu work for weeks >doesn't work >buy Mardu Reanimator instead >get the perverse idea to combine them >works better than Scorpion God Mardu on its own Pretty fucking rad.
Julian Hill
How come I never get to play the deck that everyone is supposedly playing? Anyway, everyone seems to be playing that 2/1 guy that lets you draw 2 because his power is 2. My counterburn deck falls apart to eternalize or things with 4 toughness.
Landon Cox
Could just play Cut and go Grixis or something. Or play Disallow/Nimble Obstructionist or graveyard hate to take care of it. There's plenty of ways.
Luis Taylor
Been testing this deck out online and at FNM. Went 4-1 last week and 5-0 this week. It's done pretty well.
// 15 Sideboard // 1 Artifact 1 Aethersphere Harvester // 1 Creature 1 Odric, Lunarch Marshal // 8 Enchantment 2 Cast Out 2 Solemnity 2 Gideon's Intervention 2 Authority of the Consuls // 2 Instant 2 Repel the Abominable // 3 Planeswalker 3 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
Versus UW or W monument, you've got a great matchup. Generally both decks build up a large boardstate, but once you find either odric or sunmare, the game just ends. Also, the first strike from Gisela and It That Rides crushes them. Versus RDW, your inherent lifegain makes the entire match an uphill battle for them. It's still a tough matchup, but I'd say it's slightly in your favor. Versus UR/Bolas control... it's rough. Probably 65/35 in their favor. If they can counter your plays turn 2-4 and Hour of Devastation on 5, it's hard to build up momentum again. Not a complete wash, though. Especially after sideboarding.
Eli Green
I just bought RDW, the only other format I've played is EDH, what do I need to know about this format besides the simple rules stuff?
Hunter Bennett
Uses the last 4 blocks as legsl cards, Reflector Mage, Emrakul, Smuggler's Copter and Aetherworks Marvel are banned and the new meta is going to be known by probably wednesday.
Austin Foster
>he forgot the cat
Lincoln Powell
been meaning to make something like this
What's your U/R matchup like? My shops have consistent "I'm a control master lol all I play is control!" kind of autists
Colton Cruz
twitch tv/videos/162560265 It should be noticed that he managed to get a total of 3 points and didn't make it to day 2, it's likely he didn't win a single constructed match
Asher White
UR is the worst matchup. It's so easy for them to deny you any sort of board presence till turn 5 when they can wipe any progress you made away with hour of devastation. The only real hope you have is to follow up with a gideon or gideon's intervention on torrential gearhulk. If you're lucky, you'll have Repel in your hand and can protect your stuff that way. But it's not really consistent.
Luis Kelly
I was thinking of splashing black for Scrapheap Scrounger and some sideboard cards. But it might just be more worth it just to strengthen your other matchups and make them less loseable rather than wasting slots making a 0/100 matchup into a 10/90 matchup. Deck seems nuts against red
Evan Young
>ramunap mirror match I love this standard
Hunter Gomez
I like seeing the deck but just like Marvel, it gets boring after seeing it in at least 80% of the matches
James Robinson
I feel like Marvel had a lot less interaction though, just slamming energy generators and spinning the wheel for bombs.
Parker Ramirez
What's this weak against? (ignore sideboard)
Adam Lewis
Stop playing Standard
Cameron Reyes
graveyard hate, magma spray
Julian Kelly
TCG without a standard equivalent are doomed to deteriorate in the same fashion as Yugioh
You should be thanking us for keeping this game alive
Landon Gomez
>hi welcome to [generic comic shop], Timmy. >yes I recommend magic the gathering if you're looking for a new hobby >let's get you the basics so if you don't like it you aren't down too much money >that'll be three thousand dollars plus tip
Wyatt Martinez
that's $600 thank you very much
Adrian Cook
don't fall for the torment of hailfire meme, mtggoldfish made an entire deck based around x9-x10ing that shit and still only won half the games, just maindeck 4 fatal pushes so you have a better aggro match up. Red aggro was the big thing during the pro tour so your LGS will be running wild with it for the next month or so.
Other than that looks bretty fun and I wanna try it.
Owen Harris
>Red aggro was the big thing during the pro tour Still is
Cameron Bailey
exaclty, and the only thing a torment will do is let them drop their hand to enable madness effects or hazoret.
Ayden Moore
>madness effects I don't think any red aggro decks are actually using the madness that the gorger provides
Kayden Young
>he didn't get his playset of Khenra Earthshaker for 80 cents each
I was sick of seeing RDW in every set up to Khans but I'm glad to see it back.
Adrian Fisher
I would love to but its all my friends play.
Alexander Howard
got mine for $3 can't wait for Ixalan to shit on RDW so this garbage tanks
Wyatt Collins
>that mono white card that exiles everything attacking you this turn atleast they get some free lands from it :>)
Cooper Flores
Theres a lot of good control stuff in Ixalan, like the path to exile boardwipe, but raid is also returning so aggro is still gonna be around, but probably RB instead of monored
Matthew Edwards
lel
Jack Brown
Hey /mtgs/
I'm pretty new to magic and am looking for recommendations for cute creatures (ideally green, white are ok)
A deck was built for me (vampire life drain) which helped me learn the basics, and for my first deck creation I'm looking at making one based off of cute animals. Someone let me play with his elves deck which was way too op for a scrub so I'm trying to learn via experimentation
So any cuties? Except cats and unicorns, I've exhausted those avenues
sorry for noob post, I'm not a Veeky Forums regular
Jacob Parker
crop crasher is still a better 3 drop unless there's some other treasure synergy in ixalan that can be slotted into the deck
Gabriel Gray
eh, unless you have a treasure subtheme I dont see her doing much. Red needs a good onedrop to replace gorger and maybe a better three drop that does soemthing similar to bushwacker
Daniel Butler
>Legendary
2 at best, probably going to start to put bloodlust inciter once gorger rotated out from standard
Noah Carter
Why is there no Ramunap Ruins playmat yet? That art is so good.
Daniel Butler
flameblade adept is more likely, I think menace isn't a bad trade off for 1 power
Kayden Gray
I got mine at 33 cents a pop, along with Abrades at 70 cents. I also got an invocation Hazoret a while ago for $30, was thinking of getting a playset because I'm a faggot and Hazoret is my pervert waifu, but they're up to $45+ now. Shitty.
Though I'm turbo salty that I literally cannot play standard anywhere. The two LGS in my town have zero standard attendance, the next two closest which are over half an hour away each have had, on average, 3-4 players each FNM for the past month.
I'm pissed. I just want to play magic.
Benjamin Jones
time to load up MGO and suffer the shitty client
Bentley Davis
Like kitchen table magic? kithkin and fairies are pretty cute.
Chase Perry
The problem with MGO is the prices on everything are actually higher than paper for the RDW cards. Hazoret is ten, Chandra is 35, Earthshaker is 6, etc. I really can't justify spending $250+ on a deck I already have in paper that I put together at a fraction of the cost.
Xavier Stewart
Flameblade has some really stupid potential with bomat couriers where you can just discard your hand of 4-5 cards and if you have multiple flameblades thats a lot of damage and hopefully the one or two cards you get off the courier help you finish the opponent off
Ethan Rodriguez
damn, I didn't even think about that that's some fucking synergy
should have thought about it before you ordered your cards, dingus resell your cards after the price spikes once the pro tour finishes
Ian Hernandez
I am assuming that means casual?
Yeah we play via cockatrice or in the shop
Owen Wood
There's a good selection of kithkin in white but I dont know if it's enough for a deck. Not really sure what else could be considered cute.
Leo Hill
I was expecting standard to not completely fucking collapse locally. I guess next week I'll call around to some stores that are even farther away and see what they're up to. Even the Saturday Standard Showdown events are barren; I'm pretty sure all the stores are just cracking the packs and selling the singles. It's frustrating because I really have no idea why everyone got scared off. The one LGS in particular was very anti-meta; only two or three people got burned by the bans out of 20+. I'm hoping maybe Game Day will attract some people. Also, Flameblade Adept is better is you're also running Bloodrage Brawler and Fiery Temper. It's less consistent than the current versions of the monored deck, however, but can be more explosive.
Logan Adams
>all top8 is aggro decks
as a control fag maybe it's time to step out from standard FNM and focus on other stuff
Alexander Price
So at my LGS I guess they haven't been price tracking.
I picked up:
4x Abrade for 0.37 each 1x Fraying Sanity Foil for 7.49 1x Torment of Hailfire Foil for 3.74 1x Razaketh, the Fouldblooded Foil for 10.49 1x Neheb, the Eternal Foil for 7.49 1x Neheb the Eternal for 3.74
Total = 34.43
The Razaketh is the riskiest buy but I could flip it for double right now...
Also I could grab a Bontu's Last Reckoning foil too right now for 7.49. Should I do it?
Samuel King
Is fatal push worth running in a grixis control deck? I've been looking for some way to make it more than a Izzet deck with a bolas finisher, have a hard time finding good cards that need the black mana to fit in alongside everything else.
Caleb Turner
Fatal Push Unlicensed Disintegration To the Slaughter Grasp of Darkness Transgress the Mind Kalitas, Traitor of Get Liliana, the Last Hope Noxious Gearhulk
Those are cards I've used in my Grixis Control deck.
Zachary Parker
I think someone will figure out a good control build, everybody is just memeing UR hard but losing to RDW because it has no lifegain. I expect a control deck with either white or black simply because they have access to lifegain.
Robert Gutierrez
Why are MTGfags sociopaths? >: Investigators learned the two men were playing Magic the Gathering trading card game when an argument broke out. >The discussion escalated and led to Creech hitting the man in the face with a rubber mallet and stabbing him seven times. >The victim had stab wounds all around his neck and also on his cheek.
Oliver Brown
Black gets you...what, exactly? Collective brutality maybe? Essence extraction? Alms of the vein?
If you want lifegain, you either want white for oketra's last mercy or green for life goes on.
Liam Jenkins
Gifted Aetherborn Noxious Gearhulk They're far better options for control decks than whatever else green would give
Camden Sanders
>inb4 bannings again
MUH DIVERSITY!
Isaac Hall
>requires disposable income to be competitive, and generally speaking the capitalist economic system is built to reward the morally bankrupt >centers around tournament play, which in every hobby is a cesspool where RAWfags, rules lawyers and WAACfags of every strain breed and infect other, less cancerous activities >often played by teenagers, a state of being that ought to be classified as a mental illness everyone who survives their first 12 years is subjected to
Nathaniel Turner
I've been getting close to having a really solid Grixis Control deck. Several 3-1s where the losses have always been draw luck problems.
Haven't worked with Hour of Devastation yet but I'm working on it.
Jace Bennett
>banning a bunch of shitty red cards that are only good when paired together and that will only be relevant for two months
WotC isnt THAT dumb...are they?
Charles Jackson
i haven't played magic in like 10 years but i like card games and the free ones aren't good enough. Should i buy MTGO? to play exclusively Penny Dreadful because that's my budget
Sebastian Thomas
They let Monte Cook apply MTG concepts to a cooperative tabletop RPG.
Grayson Allen
>ur prowess build
I'm brewing ur prowess right now. What are some good cards for the build?
Hudson Lewis
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Isaac Lopez
>that face is 31 i'd card him
Hudson Scott
nigga that was at fnm
Logan Miller
You can't ban a single thing out of the red deck. It's just really good in a control meta that has fostered a Pass, Pass, Pass start to G1. A pile of hasties w/ unblockable is shoving peoples shit in.
Justin Long
So I think my LGS wasn't following pricing very closely. I picked up:
4x Abrade @ 0.37 each 1x Torment of Hailfire Foil @ 3.74 1x Fraying Sanity Foil @ 7.49 1x Razaketh, the Foulblooded Foil @ 10.49 1x Neheb, the Eternal Foil @ 7.49 1x Neheb, the Eternal @ 3.74
34.43 altogether. Not sure about the Razaketh, but market says I could double my investment right now if I wanted to. There's also a Bontu's Last Reckoning Foil for 7.49 right now. Should I cop it?
Jayden Scott
dude i was playing red sligh the second cartouche of zeal became standard legal. boss sligh was gas, this deck is gas. shop goons are gonna call me a netdecker despite me shredding them with falkenrath gorger and bomat courier for the past several months, though.