How many guardsmen would it take to subjegate the westeros planet?

Id say a few thousand.

Send a detachment of 500-600 men to hold each individual population center, use the already existing feudal system to force all kings on the planet to bend the knee to the new planetary govenor.

The bare minimum though would probably be a company, around 100 men.

In that case they would have to recruit extra men from the native population, because even though they would stomp in every battle, they cant hold territory in any meaningful way.

The best course of action would be to support a local warlord and use his manpower pool to subjugate the rest of the planet. [Spoiler]pic related[/spoiler]

20 good men

>Muh free the slaves

Ironic, since worker slaves are probably one of the few resources planetos can offer as tithe.

I hate the fucking shape of Westeros. Its just a big dumb rectangle.

An armoured spearhead supported by mechanized infantry and the aeronautica.
Regular infantry regiments will hold the population centers.
Airborne assault forces (i.e Harakoni or Elysians) to capture strategic targets if possible.

They go to the nearest seat of power and through force or intrigue(depends on the regiment) they take control of the area and start a bloody campaign in the Emperors name while trying to establish contact with any psykers they have(if they don't then they will be there until the administratum realized they are missing and sends another team which will take 2-3 generations).

It's a ringworld, the north beyond the wall actually connects to Essos. Rectangle continent is basically mandatory unfortunately.

No, user. See, people draw maps like that. It's easier that way, and a Goode homolosine isn't generally as aesthetically pleasing as most cylindrical projections.

>the north beyond the wall actually connects to Essos
You do know there is a continent south of Essos right?

The author has said many times in interviews that game of thrones takes place prior to Halo: combat evolved

This begs the question on how much taint is really on this planet, the Valyrians were most definitely chaos worshipers. Also are the children of the forest some sort of mutant or offshoot like rattlings?

Filters are a thing that exist, faggot. Learn to use them.

Unsullied would be great in the imperial guard they are already indoctrinated and show no fear, they are like kriegers but they can follow orders.

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Its so wholesome to see Sasha happy with clothes on

Just one, but it would be a comedy of errors.

A pair of the other kind of hydras could take it in a year.

Is Daenerys ever going to conquer Westeros in the books?

Let's make this a bit more interesting.

You are a General in the Imperial Guard. The Lord Commander of the segmentum has tasked you with pacifying the newly discovered Feral World known by the local inhabitants as "Westeros." The intent of the Lord Commander is for you to secure the planet quickly and establish Imperial rule, as it will become the launching point of the next Crusade. You are permitted to utilize support from the Imperial Navy, Ecclesiarch, Adeptus Mechanicus, and even the Adeptus Astartes. However, he would prefer it that you prove your prowess with your own army, and has hinted that doing so will gift you with promotion to Lord General and governorship of Westeros if you so desire.

What force do you bring to annex Westeros, and what is your strategy?

>the newly discovered Feral World known by the local inhabitants as "Westeros."
Westeros is only the name of one continent. Just like Essos and Sothoryos are just continent names. Everyone calls the planet "Planetos."

Shock and awe, taking a feral world would be a minor inconvenience to my forces, and the natives should fall in line quickly when I wipe out all of the land beyond the wall, Asshai, and old Valaria because of obvious chaos taint. Next phase is to begin the process of instilling the Imperial Cult into the lives of the inhabitants and help the Ecclesiarchy set up shop in main population centers. After that maintain peace from any inevitable rebellions, after a generation of imperial rule things should calm downs and we can get moving on the crusade.

A few hundred and a mountain of cocaine

They would collapse the planet using crippling addiction to hard drugs and synthwave.

Can't fight back if you're too busy having a good time

Ultimately this assuming the Imperium just wants their tithe the only deciding factor is how hard people are willing to fight before they bend the knee. Even then a relatively small force of guardsmen could easily break each kingdom in turn forcing their respective kings to bend the knee.

Seeing the size of the armies in the setting I would probably suggest an initial force of 100,000 simply to allow for surprise losses (ambushes, a man with a bow could still kill a guardsman). So what the strategy would probably be would be a sort of shock an awe assault on the main powers (Westros, Yi-ti, Voltanis, etc.) quickly breaking them and forcing them to bend the knee. Most empires after that would presumably bend the knee quickly when they realized that mighty Westros, Voltanis, and Yi-ti couldn't resist the Imperium.

Another option only requiring a few thousand man is simply using the troops of defeated countries to continue the conquest so like a few regiments of guardsmen conquer Westros and then use Westrosi troops supported by Imperial Guardsmen to conquer the wildlings and then conquer the free cities, then using Westrosi soldiers, wildlings, and soldiers from the free cities they conquer slaver's bay, then Qarth, so on and so fourth. The small number of guardsmen are given right of conquest to occupy and populate the world with officers being made into nobles replacing houses wiped out due to their resistance against the Imperium, with a colonel or the general who led the invasion being made planetary governor with the primary goal of ensuring each city state, kingdom, and empire pays their tithes.

Depends on supplies and tech allowed.

>anything

Remember that "Rome vs. an M1 Abrams" from a few weeks ago? That. You have one or two Leman Russes, a Chimera with a squad of stormtroopers and a another with Enginseers. Fly in supplies as needed, you are literally fucking invincible inside your metal boxes and nobody can touch you.

>no planes

Could probably do it with the above force without resupply. Might need a few more tanks, say 10 or so total.

>no planes or tanks

Here's where it gets fun. Minimum I'd say you need a platoon of Stormtroopers. They infiltrate capital cities and decapitate the governments of Westeros, doing their best to plunge things into chaos without getting killed. They don't need their hotshots, so they won't need to worry about ammo or weight with normal lasguns. Bring a few volleyguns and flamers if you absolutely must engage someone on the field of battle, but take great care not to let yourselves get encircled.

Alternatively, just send Sly Marbo. He's got it solo.

>just guardsmen

Just normal, average guardsmen? It gets dicier because they will probably end up in a head-on engagement since they don't have the stealth skills of stormtroopers.

I mean, sure, you can kill anything on Westeros with a lasgun. Even the dragons are probably gonna have trouble with massed fire. But...

If they get surrounded and bumrushed, they will lose unless they have the manpower to kill full armies before they get hit. At bare minimum, a few hundred men. I'd take thousands to be safe.

>just conscripts

Same as above but they are more likely to flee without someone to keep them in line. Take twice as many as you would with trained guardsmen.

And another to the far East. I wouldn't recommend going there.

It's entirely possible they got the information from the locals and misinterpreted the answer.

Better question, when Westeros is inevitably conquered, what will it's new planetary government look like and what shape will it's imperial guard regiments take

It'll be exactly the fucking same so that you can get Rough Riders and Unsullied infantry.

>dothraki with laspistols and power swords
>Unsullied stormtroopers
>Faceless Men warp ninja assassin temple

What other changes would happen to the forces of Westeros?

The fact this wasn't the first reply is disappointing.

How much chaos is there?

I'm a fan of the Dymaxion map

The origin of its name is only half the reason.

What's your favorite map, Veeky Forums?

Whoops

waterman butterfly, any day of the week.

>cuckstanis shitposter
kek

The children arn't human. So they are clearly some sort of xenos species. Likely involved in chaos sorcery, since they are created the white walkers and all that creepy weirdwood shit.

Faceless men would be wiped the fuck out.

The whole face stealing thing is obviously chas magic.

go back to /tv/

To the far East is the Darklands. It's where Dragon originally came from and is likely home to other beasts that couldn't fly across the ocean.

>Faceless men are either exterminated or heavily reformed, its members are sent to callidus temples or just become bog standard assassins
>Each country is expected to send its own tithe
>Westros has an organization like the night watch where men can join or be forced to join and aren't allowed to have land, titles, or children because Westros likes the idea of sacrificing your line for some reason
>Slaver's Bay uses masses of regular slaves as the backbone of their armies using unsullied as grenadiers/storm troopers
>Dothraki are rough riders obviously

How strong would dragons be in a 40k context?

Their breath attack seems to char people to ash in seconds, so at least at the level of a flamestorm cannon.

And dragons seem to have some mystical connection to the element of fire, so they might be able to shrough off or even ignore the heat based las weaponry.

>How strong would dragons be in a 40k context?

if they can't fly in space they are fucked.

on tabletop, id imagine something like a tyranid monstrous creature

Any form of AA (that is not laser/heat based) will tear them up. Even bolters and stuff might fuck it up considering how big they are while being kinda slow.

Even if they were hypothetically immune to las weapons a hydra or even regular autocannon could rip them apart.

The unsulied would become the planets guard regiment.

They would specialise in super-effective firing lines, relentless advance and complete fearlessnes.

The planets tithe would become supllying highly drilled slave soldiers with unbreakable discipline.

They would probably be in the top 10 of the most unflinching regiments in the imperium.

Makes me wonder what their tabletop statline would be

Toughness 6-7 like other big creatures?

Armour 4+ or 3+ the most likely armour value

I would say
WS 5, BS 2, S 5-8, T 5-8, W 2-6, I 3, A 4, Ld 8, Sv 5+ or 4+
Varying stats depend on size, something Baelarion size would be S/T 8, W 6, with a 4+ save a dragon barely big enough for a person to fly would just be S/T 5.

Either way I don't think even Baelarion could take autocannon fire seeing how a ballista punched through his skull.

Depends on the dragobs size

>Season 1 or 2 style whelp

Grot stats with a hand flamer

>Season 4-5 drake

WS4 BS3 S5 T5 W3 I3 A3 Ld7 Sv4+

Breath weapon=heavy flamer

>Season 6-7 grown dragon

WS4 BS 3 S6 T6 W5 I3 A5 Ld8 Sv4+

Breath weapon= flamestorm cannon

>Mythic dragons like balerion the black dread

WS4 BS3 S7 T8 W7 I3 A6 Ld8 Sv3+

Breath weapon = flamestorm cannon or better

>They would probably be in the top 10 of the most unflinching regiments in the imperium.
I really doubt that. The Imperium is fucking absurd in places and as dedicated as the unsullied are I doubt they would be in the top 10. Top 10%? Totally. Top 1% probably, but top 10 is like 0.0001% in a setting where mind wiping and raising kids from birth to be soldiers is normal.

Beyond that unsullied aren't really universal, so unless the idea of the unsullied is suddenly spread everywhere I doubt they would be universal. They would exist, but Westros and the Free cities would each be providing tons of soldiers who would presumably fight similarly to knights, and Dothraki are just light cavalry. Granted this all depends on the resources of the planet, if the planet has enough resources the unsullied might be enough to make up their manpower tithe.

One interesting thing is that due to their long seasons I could easily see ASOIAF being an agri world. During the summer they provide food for several years. When winter approaches they have a massive manpower tithe to get rid of people who they would otherwise have to feed and make up for the lack of a food tithe. So during the summer the unsullied might be enough to make up their manpower tithe but when winter comes the planet sends hundreds of thousands maybe even millions of young men off world to fight in the Imperial Guard.

>Cortez-style
I like you

He's kind of right though. Stannis just cares about his birthright and isn't a big shaker like Dany. If the Imperium supports him he probably wouldn't mind bowing to the Imperium as long as he sits on the Iron Throne, at the same time he won't fuck shit up by trying to free slaves in countries that have had slavery for thousands of years or constantly being talked out of burning cities.

>>Faceless Men warp ninja assassin temple

The empir would love that shit. Callidus shit only works on women if I remember rightly, so being able to get men to facechange too could be invaluable.

Yeah. But its the siurce of that power that is the problem.

Imperial assasins yse technology, faceless use sorcery.

Remeber sorcery=unsanctioned psycer=chaos

Its like saying the Imperium would start using xeno tech because it is better than their own.

Someone do some write faggotry of a Lord Commisar going full Cortez on westeros

First I would request the Missionaria Galactica for early proselytism and HUMINT. Make the savages believe we are the red asteroid and the Promised God or whatever crap they believe.
Do a Targaryen run for King's Landing but with Vultures and Marauders.
Buy the Free Cities.
Bomb the rest into oblivion.

Transport ships loaded up with guardsmen with maybe one small Navy ship for orbital fire support. I will definitely try to get my hands on some regiment with horses or other riding beasts so that the strain on my tanks and land transports will be lesser. They can drive on anything but it still be a pain to supply them with enough fuel. So I'll try to make mixed forces with riders and tanks supporting each other. It will also allow to cover larger distances and lessen the number of troops needed to control territory.

Then I'll need some time in orbit to gather information. A month would be enough probably to get the rough shape of political map of this planet (and a geographic one too ). Though if Lord commander insists landfall could be made immediately and we will gather info in parallel with first stages of our deployment.

Then I'll just make a grand entrance to a chosen nation and declare them our lost brothers and sisters in need of help and guiding hand of the Emperor. And propose for them to bow to him. They of course will refuse so I'll either use my info to determine their enemies or just ask them if the have any enemies around. White Walkers would be an ideal target for the next step which will be demonstrating to natives the might of the Emperor's wrath.

My troops will sweep over the enemies of the nation while supported by orbital strikes on most juicy targets. I'll probably go a little overboard with munitions just to make a better impression.

After what was left of their enemy armed forces was destroyed and glassed for good measure I'll ask them to consider my proposal of embracing the Emperor again.

All it takes is a few good men.

Fifty million.

>Callidus shit only works on women if I remember rightly
No, there are callidus (male). There are more women than men that's true.

It'd be an issue of controlling land, even the worst Guard Regiments could absolutely BTFO a much larger westeros army. Firearms are a bitch.

Since Westeros is pretty rural (even in the more developed Essos region) it'd also not require that much manpower. And since nationalism didn't really exist yet and all power was centralized around lords, you just need to control the castles and some key towns to rule everything effectively.

50,000 Guardsmen for Westeros, 250,000 for Essos.

>This thread again
Go fuck yourself already

Well, since we don't know as much about the world of ASOIAF as the imperium, I wouldn't be able to say. But I don't find it terribly out of order to send a hundred guardsmen to each of the seven kingdoms, each of the free cities, each of the Slavers Bay polities.

Oh, and glass everything north of Winterfell. Also nuke Braavos, Qarth, Asshai, Valyria, pretty much everything east of Slavers Bay.

A hundred years or so later, the world is terraformed and ready, imperial settles are settling in the far east of Essos, landmasses are dredged up, the peculiar way season works with their tiny ice ages makes it pretty good for a farmworld, as someone else in the thread said.

Come now, last time he asked for space marines, and so far this thread is a lot better.

>Imperium conquers Westeros
>They get their hands in reliable personal teleportation devices

wut

It's a joke about how people in the show tend to teleport around because the show doesn't really show the passage of time in each episode.

But Stannis would totally fuck shit up for everyone and cause massive unrest due to his justice autism. That is why no one but his sworn lords supported him in the first place. Dude is an asshole.

The kind of guy fit for Planetary Governor. Lords will bendani faster when it's an Arbites Squad pushing their shit and not a levy of spearmen.

Yes but ultimately it wraps around in a ring, or maybe cylinder. All the magic in the show is actually just advanced technology. Most likely the Children of the Forest were the custodians of the construct and the Three Eyed Raven is a system admin.

Couple thousand guardsman with air transport & combat elements at worst. We're dealing with a feudal world that lacks quick overland transport or communication capability, we seize major defensive fortifications and settlements to establish control. Men hailing from the stars riding in iron dragons make a good first impression and nobles will either bend the knee or be replaced with loyalists who will. After that squash any resistance that inevitably pops up, exterminate eccentric threats and cleanse from orbit to be sure, then bring in the ecclesiarchy to establish the Imperial Creed. After it's official, I'd see about working to acquire and establish a breeding population of these drake-like xeno species. Each would surely merit a small fortune to passing Rogue Traders and with a large enough populatuon serve as an invaluable means to both solidifty control and tithe for the Imperium.

>working to acquire and establish a breeding population of these drake-like xeno species.
Enjoy firebreathing tyranids

Well, we already have plasmabreathing Tyranids.

A single company of infantry and a single artillery company is all that would be needed. The tactics of a feudal world are not designed with artillery in mind, Their vast armies marching in formation will be slaughtered by artillery before they even reach the field of battle. After such crushing victories and display of power it will be trivial to make arrangements with the local authority figures, if one resists they will be annihilated as an example for the next "kingdom".

With dragons 750,000; without, 500,000.

Lords on a primitive worlds will probably listen to anyone with the capability to wipe a city off the map with a radio call on a magic box. They're not gonna institute the warlord who had the least support out of any of the combatants, they're gonna take the easiest path and support the group that's already essentially won their silly little war.

Their is no easy or hard path for them. They could put Hotpie on the throne if they wanted to. If they have a little background knowledge or have met some rulers in person then their choice would obviously be Stannis.
>Rules for the countires sake
>Open to the Imperial religion, because it is finally one that answers
>Uncorruptable
>Merciless but just

>their is
>countires
Stop making us Stannisfags look bad

I dont see many genetic componants in dragons that tyranids dont already have.

The only thing might be fire resisstance, although that is such a minor trait that the nids could probably create it themselves.

>Is unpopuler with all other lords exept the ones sworn directly under him
>Controls little of the planets surface
>Has a smallish army
>Is greatly disliked by the commoners
>Openly consorts with warp sorcerors, and even used his life esence to summon daemons.

Yeah Stannis seems like perfect imperium material

You just blew my mind, user.

Now i kinda wanna see the planetosi Nights watch guard regiment.