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>How important is hate in your group? How much slots dedicated to hate, is too much? I guess that depends on the definition of 'hate'. We all pack reasonable things where possible- your Disenchant effects, Beast Within, Wraths, some graveyard hate. "Broad" stuff. But I don't think anybody plays cards that are specifically to thunderfuck one strategy or deck, beyond "graveyard", but that's because it's such a common thing that I think basically any deck needs a Relic of Progenitus at minimum.
Bentley Campbell
What are the most fun monocoloured generals?
I already have monoblack (Toshi, might get turned into big mana bloodchief drana eventually), and I'm enjoying it. Figure I might as well have my next decks follow in a logical series.
Zachary Phillips
How do you feel about dedicated hate cards? If the majority of players in your group are running black decks and someone casts Celestial Purge, how would you react?
Christopher Morales
last time i went to my edh group, one of the guys in my pod brought his girlfriend and gave her his high-powered animar deck to play. he scooped after missing a land drop on turn 5, pulled his chair right behind her, and told her what to play for the rest of the game.
they lost, but that's still kind of a shitty thing to do. guy is already kind of an asshole so that's not helping matters.
would it be a dick move to request not to be placed with that guy again?
Thomas Russell
Is this a sort of store-level "event", or just your group having fun?
If it's an 'event', next time it happens say "Yeah, you can't give her advice. She's playing, not you." and if it persists, call the TO.
If it's just for fun, say "Fuck no. Go sit back in your god damned chair and let her play." If he doesn't, continue the game without them.
Tyler Phillips
So nim's deathmantle and peregrine drake, is that an infinite with a sac outlet? I only just purchased deathmantle and didnt realize it was another method at infinite mana beside deadeye nav
Alexander Powell
So i want to make werewolf tribal with ruric tharr as the commander because ulrich sucks but werewolves on their own don't seem like enough to win a game. What are some other wincons/powerful cards to use in gruul for a werewolf deck? Nothing too expensive please i am trying to keep it cheap
Connor Long
It can be, assuming you have 4 mana to pay for the first Deathmantle trigger.
Grayson Butler
peregrine drake etb untaps 5 mana, a.altar pay 3, sac drake and get 2 mana, and you have 4 mana avaiable to pull off the combo. nice unless i fucked up somewhere
Evan Cooper
No yeah you're right. For some reason I was thinking the Mantle had to be equipped to the Drake in the first place, that was my fuckup.
Owen Young
dragonlair spider's a good yet cheap card in gruul commander
Adrian Reed
Make it group slug and win through combat.
Henry Howard
Ooh nice forgot about that one. I wanted to run triumph of the horde anyway so the spider is in for sure
Grayson Cooper
>That feel when no Sigarda Voltron GF who sits on your face while calling you a naughty Tribal player
David Ortiz
I'll be a boy n do that 2 you
Jason Gutierrez
Gross.
Anthony Gray
>Thread question Not very. I run the usual suite of removal and Wraths for the colors I play, but I don't build stuff that will buttfuck one player.
Dominic Ramirez
Thread question: we usualy have 4 players in my group. Me and one other guy play a good bunch of hate, the third mostly does Johnny tryhard combo or copie stuff but runs not that much hate and allways neglects his mana base. The other one is the timmiest of all Timmys, there is only ramp and big boys in his decks. I'd say there can't be too much hate in a deck if you don't mind beeing the first target on the table.
Also what's your opinion on pic related for multi colored decks ?
Jaxon Watson
>How important is hate in your group? How much slots dedicated to hate, is too much?
When you start getting into a lot of dedicated color hate thats a bit much. When large chunks of your decks are dead cards because someone that you wanted to hatefuck isn't playing, thats probably when you have done too much. If you are talking about just running more graveyard or artifact hate because theres a lot of it in your meta, those cards are never really dead, since I haven't seen an EDH game without some of those.
Owen Gutierrez
I have a deck that is specifically dedicated to hating one of my friend's Norin chaos deck, because fuck that noise.
Luis Reed
Unless you have something to do with the token, it is just a shit sorcery speed 3 mana kill spell.
John Long
It also does some colourfixing. And it's *exile* removal, which can be important.
Luis Peterson
Should I make Saskia Ball Lightning or Vanilla Creatures?
Connor Young
I prefer pic related.
Matthew Brown
Patron of the moon, in which the main goal is to kill people with a draft chaff card from Amonkhet. Killing people with it is so satisfying.
Daniel Green
What's your wincon?
Mine is getting a bunch of sphinxes out and defending them.
Elijah Carter
What is a good commander that is fun to play against? I have casual meta while I am more victory driven and I want my friends to have fun while still not goig group hig retarded.
Eli Long
Doesn't matter for my group. My friends get pissy at me no matter what I play.
I counter spells? I become archenemy. I cast a board wipe? I become archenemy. I use spot removal? I become archenemy. I exile graveyards? I become archenemy. I attack for a lot of damage? I become archenemy.
Xavier Smith
>kill people with a draft chaff card from Amonkhet What the fuck card are you talking about
Joseph Reyes
Sweet. I didn't knew that card yet. It's perfect to fuck with Zur players
Brandon Phillips
What colors attract what people?
I think blue attracts turbo autists and "too be fair you have to have a pretty high IQ to understand x" types
tfw my favorite general is Teferi
Jacob Morgan
>thread question Hate of all kind is important none more so than stuff like sadistic sacrament, bitter ordeal, jester's cap, etc. Building a deck to hate on one deck in particular is also fine especially if they stack which some do or go for the same shit every game.
Christopher Myers
In multi-coloured decks, it can get a little black.
That said, as a mono-black player, I love it so much.
Gavin Rogers
Say, /edhg/, in mono-blue is this card playable? You can basically turn dead cards into Harrow which is something blue doesn't normally have access to.
Dylan Moore
If i use this to get a creature back from my graveyard and i sacrifice a creature with persist, will i still get back the creature in my graveyard?
Nolan Garcia
honestly the most fun deck i've ever played is kefnet
you just play kefnet turn 3 and then draw-go, countering everything that threatens you and dumping your remaining mana into drawing cards with kefnet.
you'd think the deck would just be a worse version of thrasios, but kefnet being indestructible is like... really good.
plus being monoblue lets you get more value out of high tide and caged sun.
Logan Sanders
0-2 Wort, the Raidmother 3-6 Chainer 7-8 Rakdos the Defiler 9 Phage
Angel Gonzalez
Know your meta. If someone in my meta played Kor Castigator (where there are no eldrazi at all) for whatever reason, I'd be confused. If the white player casts Mass Calcify (as he does), I wouldn't bat an eye. Likewise, we all ran black and the white player decided to run Celestial Purge, my only question would be why he's not shooting for more card advantage with something like Cleanse or Fumigate
Chase Wilson
yes
William Robinson
It is not that they gang up on me or complain, but I am way more into MTG than they are and put more thought into my decks, so if I'd go all out, I would make the games unfun for them.
I think that is an unfair and a real low-hanging joke. Of course blue attracts turbo-autists, because it is the most versatile color, which allows the largest possibility to brew. Blue can do anything other colors can, while 90% of red cards are burn spells or "goblins".
Anthony Robinson
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Nolan Edwards
Chainer it is Sorry I didn't do the greentext, must've triggered your retard button
Jack Clark
Is this a Fuse card? Or is it one or the other?
Dylan Williams
One or other, fuse cards will have the reminder text
Landon Hernandez
It also brings your commander from the command zone if you sacrificed them.
Colton Martin
Anything similar to this? I'd be using it to bounce and recast my own stuff for benefit
Wyatt James
If blue, Equilibrium and Cowardice
Carter Walker
and crystal shard
Luke Stewart
No blue, unfortunately.
Evan Robinson
what colors and what are you bouncing?
Gavin Diaz
theres some in white but it gets harder if blue isnt the color. stonecloaker and dust elemental for white
Noah Sanders
if you're abusing ETB triggers that's one thing, but if you're after cast triggers it's a whole different thing.
what's your plan?
Parker Brooks
Just repeatable ways to bounce/flicker Saskia in order to choose a new target. I should probably look at white
Carson Murphy
Mass Calcify isn't really a dedicated hate card. It's like a colorless player using All is Dust or an Artifact player using Scourglass. It's just an asymmetrical card the player knows they'll be on the long end of and other players will usually be on the short end of.
Kevin Moore
conjurers closet
Luis Perry
in that case, flicker stuff is way better than returning to your hand. you've only got three opponents so the max number of times you want to flicker her is like 2, so repeatable stuff isn't all that important.
really good options would be flickerwisp and restoration angel because they're creatures attached to a flicker effect, but you can also play cloudshift.
why do you need it to be repeatable?
Camden Reyes
You can always come out of the closet.
Noah James
I like having things be repeatable as opposed to one-and-done
Effects on a stick, I guess
Brayden Johnson
but you only need it like two times. that's a lot of wasted mana, and it's not even really that good.
Matthew James
Hey kid, ya ever get your dick sucked by an eldrazi?
Christopher Sullivan
I've built a deck for each monocolor, here's my favorites: W: Sram, Senior Edificer U: Teferi, Temporal Archmage B: Liliana, Defiant Necromancer R: Zada Hedron Grinder G: Yeva, Nature's Herald If you like Stax, Teferi and Lili are fun. If you like drawing cards Zada and Sram are great (or any of them really, fuck I love drawing cards). If you're a Timmy tired of getting board wiped then go Yeva.
Nolan Wright
you really don't want erratic portal in your saskia deck. it's way too slow for an aggressive deck. flickerwisp and restoration angel should be enough flickering for the entire deck and they're both aggressive creatures.
Oliver Richardson
I look at him, and then I look at erebos or thrasios, and I just can't figure out why I'd want to.
Ethan Collins
i like him more than erebos because i like monoblue more than monoblack
i like him more than thrasios because he's indestructible and wraths don't affect me at all
Ryan Diaz
So what's the win condition of Teferi? Looking at EDHrec and I don't see what his wincon is.
Cameron Scott
which teferi?
Grayson Lopez
>not black >not also the color of money
you had one fucking job
Jacob Kelly
toss in alot of o-ring bodies like fiend hunter or angel of condemnation. protects from wipes and neat tricks with flickers. for reusable stuff, you are barking up the wrong tree
Joshua Garcia
Temporal Archmage
Kayden Lewis
mana rocks and the chain veil, get infinite planeswalker activations for your turn and infinite mana, draw your deck, jtms ult or labman
Jonathan Wood
Teferi is all stax all the time. And the wincon is what said
Samuel Foster
He often goes infinite with the Chain Veil and draws his whole deck.
Brayden Ward
How do I infinite mana though?
teach me your secrets user I don't know what stax is. if I post my deck list i cobbled together can you help me?
Jayden Carter
Stax is misery with a side dish of pain. It's based around resource denial and making things more expensive to play
Nicholas Rogers
something something deepglow skate
Carter Harris
you do teferi's -1 over and over again on the chain veil and some big mana rocks until he dies, then recast him with all the extra mana you made. chain veil is kinda fucky in how it works so you immediately get all the extra activations of teferi from before added to the "new" one. just keep looping this with teferi dying over and over and eventually you'll have a million mana and a million extra planeswalker activations for the turn. you then use teferi's +1 enough times to draw your deck and cast the wincon of your choice.
Jose Phillips
My decks are made around hate simply because my playgroup just runs the same decks again and again. I'm currently changing out my swamps to Snow-Covered Swamps just because the Ob-Nixilis landfall deck runs them + Extraplanar Lens.
James Long
Say you have The Chain Veil, Gilded Lotus, and Teferi. Activate the chain veil, then -1, untapping the TCV, GL, and two lands. Activate the chain veil again, then -1, doing the same thing. Do this until Teferi runs out of Loyalty and dies.
Now, when you cast Teferi again, all those chain veil activations apply to the new instance of him. He can activate his abilities probably 5 or 6 times, depending on how much loyalty you had to work with earlier. Use his untap ability enough to generate the mana you'll need to cast him next time, then keep doing Chain Veil activations or drawing cards. The next time you cast Teferi, he should be able to activate his abilities like 12 times. It just keeps on going like that.
Benjamin Kelly
this guy explained it better than i did, listen to him
Wyatt Miller
Anyone??
Sebastian Perry
i'd rather just run walking atlas and have a good amount of draw unless i was going for some kind of big reanimator thing
Ryan Butler
Kefnet or Kami for mono blue card draw action
Joshua Ward
kefnet: indestructible, cheap, good blocker at all stages of the game, can draw multiple cards per turn when you get enough rocks out
kami: cheaper by 1, but helps everyone, only gets you 1 card per turn but does it free
kefnet is probably better in this comparison unless you're actively trying to build group hug
Ayden Smith
You guys are actually making kefnet sound really awesome.
Charles Turner
Fun old cards you've never seen anyone else play.
Benjamin Martinez
cause you lose out on the good half of your reanimation targets.
Wyatt Smith
...
Christopher Walker
Not like you have a ton of reanimation effects in mono-white or most nonblack white color pairs.
Jayden Rivera
If you have two different creature combos in your graveyard, you can split both of them up and win either way.
Leo Baker
You make the piles, so you'll always end up with something desirable.
Julian Roberts
It ain't bad.
Aaron Barnes
why is heroic intervention so expensive? rotation and fumigate in standard?
Elijah Butler
I'm trying to help my friend make his budget enchantress deck playable. He're the current list I've come up with for him - any obvious suggestions ($5 or under) or cuts to be made before I send him the list? tappedout.net/mtg-decks/budget-karametra-enchantress-2/
Matthew Wilson
I want to build a creature centric deck but I'm having a hard time choosing between Ezuri, Claw of Progress and Selvala, Heart of the Wilds
William Fisher
You got me excited. I have a foil. 5 bucks isn't expensive.
John Morgan
1-3 Kefnet 4-6 Zada 7-9 Kruphix 0 idk man, maybe a +1/+1 counter commmander?
Ayden Russell
Any other creatures to keep attacks at bay? This seems good already.
Cameron Lee
Truly you have been blessed by best god! I hope you like drawing tons of cards and slamming fatties.