What are some examples of blatant hysterically retarded self-inserts in rpgs?

Seems unlikely to be a self-insert, as the only two things she does are A) Tell no one her plan for some reason and B) Die pointlessly in an admittedly pretty-cool-looking attack.

Bad bait

Did you not read the fucking image?
>both have color hair
>both are autistic
Obvious self-insert

It turns out that Holdo was even more hostile and bitchy in the original version of the film, but they altered her to be more sympathetic in post-production.

>white knight steps up to the plate to defend a retarded landwhale because SHES A WOMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

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>Holdo was even more hostile and bitchy in the original version of the film
How?

What about the planet she's from?
>Gatalenta was a warm, uncommonly tranquil planet famed for its tea, lengthy, erudite poetry and meditative retreats. Natives of Gatalenta were renowned for their calmness and serenity, and rose each day to thank the planet's multiple suns for rising.

> Love and compassion were taught and practiced fondly by the people of Gatalenta, and crying openly was considered a virtue and proof of a caring heart.

>They were ruled by the Council of Mothers. Slavery was illegal on the planet, and slaves were not allowed to be brought to the planet. If a slave was brought there, and their master was caught, the slave was set free.

>Live in a universe literally filled with magic.
>Study history and learn about how there used to be a psudo-political council of literal Space Wizards
>Ever major conflict of the last century was both caused by Bad Space Wizards and resolved by Good Space Wizards
>Your boss is an untrained Space Wizard
>They are siblings with a trained Space Wizard
>Their child is a powerful and evil Space Wizard
>You have a common farewell which is basically 'magic aid you'
>Study magic
>This... this is a typo right?

Jesus fucking christ

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So Gatalenta is Star Wars's Tea Time planet then?
It'll fit right along side Politics Planet, Forest Planet No.1&2, Slave Planet, Desert Planet No.1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, etc, Space Port Planet, Many Hidden Jedi Temple Planets, Casio Planet, etc.

FATHER'S THRUSTING COCK

>making excuses for retarded bullshit

Wait, what?!

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>Casino
Though considering how mono-dimensional many SW planets are, it honestly wouldn't surprise me if there was a Casio Planet also.

>Live in a universe literally filled with magic.

Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other. I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful force controlling everything. There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny.

You know, after reading more about Holdo, it made a lot of sense why they had her act the way she did in the film. But my biggest problem is that they never explained anything about her in the movie. She shows up, tells no one anything, acts like a bitch, has a lesbian moment with Leia, then dies. There's no depth, no explanations, no anything. We're just introduced to this character like we're supposed to know everything about her already.

fucking REKT

>Space Wizard

Don't try to frighten us with your Sorcerers ways, Lord user. Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you in conjuring up the stolen data tapes.

>female writer
Found the problem

And then Lord user choked a bitch with Space Magic.

Whole trilogy feels that way so far, though mostly in TLJ. For instance, the current sith lord being a literally who and getting killed off with us knowing jack shit about him beyond his name. There's just too much missing between episodes 6 and 7.

Also, Holdo is a fucking retard. She only died because she wanted to. Any droid or basic autopilot system could have kept the ship on course.

You know, it's okay to outgrow something. If you don't enjoy a certain series or genre anymore, don't consume it.

Rot in hell disney, but thank you for inspiring my new Shadowrun villain

She was the highest ranking individual left, she seemed to have no plan, Poe didn't like her. That was pretty much all we needed to know.
Her connection to Leia helped support Leia a bit, by further showing that Leia saw everyone as people and also so Holdo's inevitable death was seen by viewers as important and not just another redshirt.
Not everyone needs a half hour introduction talking about their hopes and dreams.

Do you mind explaining why she didn't tell Poe her plan? The only reason I can think of is that she wanted to teach Poe a lesson, which is a shitty thing to do in a life or death situation.

Nah, I'm in the same boat as you. This isn't Star Wars for me anymore. It's something else. It's no longer for me.

But, that doesn't mean I would take it away from someone else.

It just inspires me to write the stories -I- want to see. Maybe it will do the same for you.

The thing I am more creeped out is that the movie implies that the force will just create super powered individuals like Rey and Snoke just to keep the light side vs dark side conflict going.
By making snoke have no explanation for his appearance and then throwing him away, they are implying that these kind of dark force users are just going to be a dime a dozen from now on.

>the plan has failed and if i don't act literally this very second more and more of my people are going to die
>okay i'll take the time to set this up via autopilot or a droid, get to an escape pod and get off the ship
>what, everyone died whilst i was taking the time doing this? Whoops

The two leading theories are either 'i just do not trust the guy who is well known as an insubordinate hothead who has us taking losses we can't withstand' or 'it's not impossible they're tracking us via a spy so i need to keep this plan a secret as long as I can'.

>>The thing I am more creeped out is that the movie implies that the force will just create super powered individuals like Rey and Snoke just to keep the light side vs dark side conflict going.

So you're saying that in Disney Wars Kreia would had been objectively 100% correct about the Force being a morally questionable entity that keeps the galaxy locked in a constant conflict?

I really don't have a solid idea. In the EU, she's basically Luna Lovegood IN SPAAAAACE and expects her subordinates to blindly follow her command without question, even though a lot of times she makes absolutely no sense.

I have a theory that there was a cut plotline where she thought there was a spy on board feeding the FO with information. Explains why she didn't trust anyone (that we see from our point of view) with information. The scene with Finn and Rose "figuring out" how theyre being tracked reads like a scene that they added late, possibly in post production, to patch over the discarded plotline.

I was surprised there wasn't more concern about a possible spy in the movie.

There's also still the 'it might kill everyone' part though. So probably for the best to let it do it's thing. Jedi and Sith (or light and dark) aren't inherently galaxy-changing individuals. They just have this tendency to end up at the top of the goodies and baddies because 'look, magic!'. You could have them both exist, and even both in conflict, without it really sending the galaxy into chaos every time.

What is that from? A summary ripped from the novel where she appears?

Casino Planet was literally just Desert Planet #5. Remember when we saw them approach it? It was just a ball of dirt.

>There's no mystical energy field
What about a balance between light and dark?

Like, seriously, that was the dumbest fucking line in the entire movie. The Force is a balance? English doesn't support that statement.

All this REEEEing about the new Star Wars is getting kind of boring.

Why didn't she just order the fleet to split up?

They were being chased for like 18 hours, she had time.

Hell, the fact it took so long for her to do it personally probably killed off about half the remaining rebels.

Especially given how Finn was sort of implied to be the string.

Luna at least explains why she acts a little silly or why she thinks something weirdly magical is happening to Harry and the gang. And Luna's actually a good listener who tries her best to comfort her friends.

she didn't study magic, unless you mean to assert that astrology makes you force sensitive, and a space wizard.

youtube.com/watch?v=ugJfjmxOR2I

not if lord user only studies astrology.

>point ship towards fleet
>"Droid engage hyper drive once at the correct distance."
>"Roger roger."

the hothead explanation I don't get. If he is a hothead, then its better to tell him the plan before he does something that would jeopardize it. Like he does.
the spy thing makes more sense, but there were zero scenes that implied that.
alright, I can get the scene where it implies there is a spy was left on the cutting room floor, especially considering how long the movie already is.
I feel like this could movie could be a lot better with just some editing changes.

fucking where was that implied?

He in canon admits to be wrong. you are shit and probably and old grongnard who hates disney

Mage 20th anniversary.

When Hux first talks about how the Resistance is on the end of a string, it switches immediately to Finn. And all the talk about the tracking beacon involved Finn in the scenes.

that isn' implying finn is the string, it's implying that the scene has ended.

But seriously though who the fuck was that lord Snape guy?

What a qt3.14.

Dude, that's movie making 101. A decent where characters are talking about [thing], then cut to a scene where [thing] is implied to be important. For example
>Scene A, two characters ask where character 3 could be.
>Scene B is character 3 in another location.
That's literally how you tie plot threads together.

>Astrology
>Not magic
What does user mean by this?

I dunno, there could be some bad concequences; what if he had blown up the shuttles? Or ruined the cloaking device?

The original plan was to have someone pilot the ship on a hyperspace jump away so when it blew up the rebellion would be presumed dead.

Her ramming was an improv last ditch desperation attempt to save everyone, not a preplanned calculated move.

fuck that's pretty spicy

Wrong that in his travels he didn't come across magic? If it's suppose to be everywhere, how come a dude who goes around hasn't come across it before? How come an Imperial officer can shit talk the Jedi as a bunch of retards, if they're so well respected and their abilities are so well known?

that's movie making 101 in either a good movie or a cartoon for retards. Star wars has never used that sort of scene transition.If you watched that and read that as "oh, finn must be the string" then you're either thinking way to much into this or you've got no ability to recognise divergent storylines.

Dyeing hair and wearing eye raping colors is now expressing yourself?

And it slave actually been a smart way to go about it. At least to establish Finn as a red herring. All they needed to do was add a scene with Holdo talking about a possible spy and maybe a few small details here and there, but we can't have that. A spy plotline would've been better than the casino planet garbage. I get it, they added it to change locales and put some more variety initio the movie, but it still sucked. Especially since it was ultimately pointless.

I want to play Casio Planet. All these piano lessons are going to pay off

No wonder she was such a bitch. If I had been raised on Planet Friendshipistan, I'd be a frustrating cunt to people with stupid plans, too. Fuck off Poe, go sulk about your demotion while the adults handle the actual strategy.

I think Finn was meant to be a red herring of sorts, because the beacon-watch thing was the way the FO was tracking them. A powerful device that sends a signal halfway across the galaxy? At least two separate scenes where they are talking about tracking the resistance, then cutting to the beacon specifically?
>b-b-but they said it was cloaked!
An awkward line delivered by a character alone in a single shot? That's added in reshoots 100%.

I had actually considered that at one point, but they dropped the ball on that hard. Not to mention that him having it during their casino trip kinda ruined it.

He was nobody. A worthless xenos scumbag who sold off Rey for drinking money.

Yeah but why didn't Holdo order the fleet to split up or do that BEFORE every other ship got killed?

They treat it as a "victory" but this is like when Denmark was invaded by Germany and surrendered in a few hours. Sure, there were some free Danes who got away but they were never a major power in the Allies.

>Star wars has never used that sort of scene transition
The fuck are you talking about? This is a new Star Wars trilogy, with new directors and producers.

so that means user can be a retard ?

Because that would've been the smart thing to do and invalidate that part of the plot completely?

I would like to self insert into her story. If you know what I am saying.

>Wrong that in his travels he didn't come across magic? If it's suppose to be everywhere
>He has 2 jedi with him in the ship
>has heard of them after being anihhilated and his history banned by the empire
>The number of jedai dcreased dramatically after order 66
>but he thinks that they are just a myth after palpatine directly blamed them by the clone wars and an attempt to destroy the republic
>somehow, they must be invented stuff for children

So she is from some soft core world planet. I figured as much, between Leia, Mon Mothma and Holdo it seems like half the Rebel leadership comes from the inner rim. Then again I think all the alliance's founding members were senators so at least Hollywood is being consistebt here.

I don't know what you are saying.

No, it means you are.

>He has 2 jedi with him in the ship

I call it luck.

How much of the Force did he witness during his time with them. And how does it negate all the decades he didn't come across any space wizards that pulled off tricks that couldn't be just luck?

>somehow, they must be invented stuff for children

Yeah, he's heard of some space druids with glowing sticks that were hot shit one time. Woo, scary! I also heard if you're a virgin when you turn 30, you become a Jedi master.

A good chunk of the plot was already invalidated by the movie itself.

If you play the Imperial March it fires a laser strong enough to destroy a planet.

Luna is a conspirational fuck who would believe in fucking 9/11 theories and is one click away from falling into the /x/ rabbitthole. That's not a character I would self-insert as

Where do you think the Cantina Band learned to play?

The thing that makes me laugh is that while the Rebellion was explicitly founded to restore the Republic, and it's leadership were all experienced generals and senators and it was structured in an explicitly military manner, the Resistance is a gang of thugs.

There has never been any expression of purpose to the Resistance's existence beyond
>FIGHT THE FIRST ORDER
>KILL THE FIRST ORDER
They have no end goal for bringing peace to the galaxy, no desire to bring back the Republic. Half of The Last Jedi is spent calling the Republic a failure. The other half is the Resistance acting like liberal caricatures of an army.

Leia literally backhands Poe and demotes him; a general physically assaults her lead starfighter commander before demoting him. Leia and Holdo both walk around wearing dresses and jewelry and makeup when they're given explicit military rank and Leia was wearing an actual uniform in the last movie and acting like a general. Poe, an actual military veteran, stages a mutiny by holding his few leaders at gunpoint, and nobody else does anything or even tries to talk him out of it. Rose is supposed to be a soldier, even if she's logistics, yet she operates with no supervision, is introduced as a vigilante, and her sole motivation is hatred no matter what her last line is.

Unlike the Rebellion, the Resistance at the end of the movie is 99% young kids. There are only 5 characters that we see who are over the age of 40, and 3 of them die. I know it's supposed to set up the "next generation will lead us to a bright future" but it makes a mockery of the conflict when you realize the First Order is mostly made up of teenage soldiers in the background fluff. And the idea of "rallying" others to the Resistance's cause, when nobody cared about Leia and the only person who helped Rose and Finn was a 10-year old, is just ridiculous. It's going to be an army of teenagers marching in the streets demanding change and organizing sit-ins, not a rebellion.

She was also the best girl.

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