What would be the best weapons for dexterous races like elves?

What would be the best weapons for dexterous races like elves?

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Dual wielding, due to advanced coordination. Something as big as an arming sword would work.

Gun.

Bow and lance from horseback. Steppe nomad elves make much more sense than steppe nomad orcs. Primary weapons? Bow. Elves are the shit with bows. Secondary weapon? Lances. Lances require accuracy, and balance and coordination on horseback. Numbers? Low compared to settled folks, making up for it in quality of troops, tactics and strategy. Elves would fucking punish as horseback archers and lancers.

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Great idea, give them the weapon that uses the least amount of dexterity possible.

Clearly you've never used a gun before.

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Dexterity in D&D is hand-eye coordination and accuracy. Guns would be perfect for them.

>modern fantasy
Ew, niggas. And if you're talking about early firearms then accuracy on the user's part is irrelevant.

Are muskets modern fantasy? I mean, you're perfectly free to be a faggot all you want and only like bog standard fantasy settings but still...

Muskets are pretty early firearms where having some extra accuracy on the user's part doesn't matter for shit, because the limiting factor is the musket's accuracy.

What tech level are we talking about here. Blowguns and atl atls? Rapiers? Whips and throwing daggers? Sniper rifles? As always OP, you ask a question, but give us to little context to provide you with a helpful answer.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitworth_rifle

>early firearms then accuracy on the user's part is irrelevant.

That's a rifle, not a musket.

I like elven curveblades, something about large weapons that are wielded with finesse seems really cool to me.

Elves have extremely sensitive hearing, guns are not for them.

A strength-based race's dick shoved up their ass.

what all my Strength based players consistently refer to as "sneaky bitch weapons"

poisons
small easily thrown weapons
hand crossbows
light weapons that you can hit someone several times with quickly
high precision weapons like rapiers
and any weapons whose range requires you take projectile drop into serious account

additionally, "dexterity accentuators" weapons or equipment that trip up, entangle, or bind the enemy.

Nets
Bolas
Caltrops
traps
lassos
the ever popular ROCK ON A MOTHERFUCKING ROPE™
a light tough cloak you can throw up as an obscuring barrier

Thrusting swords like rapiers and estocs.

Spears.

Antlers.

Basically whatever the Scythians used.

the swords from LOTR for the elves worked great. Almost like a short naginata. Long handle. average blade. very light "~" shape to the weapon profile. allows for those sweeping almost dance like movements.

t. Noguns

>whips
>blade whips made from metalized, sharpened leaves
>ridiculously long whips made of vines and rose thorns
>Monofilament wires made of spider silk
>hellsing.wikia.com/wiki/Monofilament_Wires

bows of course are used too, but are more like a "toy" equivalent they give to their kids. They're ridiculously good at them, of course, but whips are the mark of elven knightguards

Music. Unbelievably powerful magic conjured and controlled with musical instruments.

Slings would suit elves better. Higher skill, higher power weapon and better suited to small amounts of skirmishers.

Modern fantasy is fucking shit, dude. And yes, American Civil War is too modern.

I was thinking more along the lines of Mongol Empire era horse archery, which is like a millenium after war slings fell out of practice (to my probably lacking knowledge), but if we're talking more ancient times then sure, that sounds like it's be a very good choice.

Slings fell out of practice more due to military tactics rather than effectiveness. If you have mounted troops they'd still be better off with bows, at least i'm assuming so due to the way a sling works.

that, and you can squeeze archers closer together. a tighter phalanx can fire more projectiles per volley. a bow is also faster to fire, so you have more volleys per minute.

now, I say volley because its a good metric. even if the unit isn't using volley-fire tactics. I just use volley here to mean (all present shooters fire).

the down side of the bow, ammo is costly in time, effort, and/or supply.
cause arrows take more to make than going to a river to collect a big bag of stones

Despite what RPGs say, bows are STR weapons. The weight of the draw directly increases distance and lethality. Dual weild would be good for ambidextrous races.

Muskets are not inaccurate doe. They could reliable hit a man size target at a 100 yards. They're a lot more accurate than people give them credit for. And the fact is that you a musket is ruled by aim rather than guess. Other ranged weapons are more difficult to aim and past a certain range they weren't used as direct fire weapons so it becomes a guessing game.
People in the 16c were writing that guns were pretty accurate and could be used at longer ranges than, say, bows and crossbows. There's a reason people left those weapons behind.

Now the reason you might think of them as inaccurate is mostly due to how they were used in battle. Tacticians at the time wanted to use their guns as a shock weapon and so delivering a devastating volley at close range was preferable. On top of that battlefield conditions didn't allow for much accuracy due to all the smoke and stress placed on the soldiers. The terror of battle, all the screaming, dying, smoke, etc. put a toll on the soldier's accuracy. But outside of that context they had good enough accuracy.

You could argue that str is required to use a specific bow to maximum efficacy (e.g. higher draw strength ==> greater dmg, str req, range), but dex would be the determinant of aiming ability.

Brother I'm sorry but you might be retarded. Rifles were first made in the 1400s and were damn accurate. The problem was that given how early gunpowder worked their rifling would get gummed up after three to four shots, requiring significant cleaning. Hence why guns were still usable for hunting despite the inaccuracy of the musket. You hunted with your rifled gun and fought war with a smoothbore. You only need a few shots hunting and need dozens in war before the charge.

So it would be perfectly fitting for elves using guerilla tactics and picking off humans in the forest to use early rifles. Yeah they only get a few shots each but their heightened dexterity allows them to only need 1-2 shots per human. Naturally this also makes them week to any head on fighting, hence why they're insentivized to fight like the Swamp Fox or the Vietnamese rather than a European.

And assuming they have the metallurgy, you could just carry multiple barrels because black powder doesn't have that much pressure and overheating is practically a non issue with muzzle loaders.
>just dont expect to put a bayonet on it

>rapiers
>sneaky bitch weapons
Give your strength based players a rapier and tell them to hold out at arm's length for a minute. They'll change their tune pretty quickly.

From a practical standpoint they wouldn’t be very useful against heavy armor unless you used a very heavy polearm-like one akin to a glaive.
Sure they look cool, but there’s a pretty good reason why most sidearms ended up having pointy tips or simply relied on enough sheer brute force that armor didn’t matter anyway.

Dual wield is flashy but mostly impractical for anything except single combat, assuming that your off-Hand weapon is a shorter dagger-like blade of course. As soon as you get more then one person involved fighting against you it’s just not very energy efficient on your part.
It’s not a manual control thing, it’s a basic physics thing.

That said, if it’s D&D who gives a shit?
Do what best fits your stats in game.

Honestly, a proper rapier weighs as much as any other sword and is LONGER then most to boot. That’s not exactly ridiculously heavy but it’s long enough and awkward enough that if you didn’t know how to use it and you didn’t have the muscle you were gonna look stupid trying to move it around.