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This is a Kazuul thread. Pay (3) for each post you make, or I'll send an ogre after you.
Jack Smith
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Cameron Torres
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Dylan Thomas
I'd argue that Mirri is a go tall Voltron deck too, I very rarely if ever hit people with other creatures once she's suited up
Evan Gomez
>Thread Question
Ramos. I can't decide between +1/+1 counter synergy or multicolored spellslinger nonsense and can't zero in on a build that can both go nuts if I get to untap with Ramos and function without him. I've yet to get my list under 140 cards.
Brayden Cox
The thing is, if you go wide with her, the swarm literally can't be stopped. IF you go tall, she's about as stoppable as any other potential Voltron base.
Daniel Myers
That is a yes
Pretty much any commander without a no-brain list, I'm rethinking my goals in commander atm
Jace Rogers
>What commander do you want to play, but you can't decide on how to build? Titania of all fucking things. Other than hitting infinite with Food Chain and Command Beacon I've got trouble making Lands.dec survive and thrive in monogreen
Josiah Fisher
Lesser ogres OUT
Aaron Nguyen
How do you even build a deck?
I'm making a mill deck and I dont know what the fuck I'm doing.
I have like 25 extra cards I dont know where to fit
Ryder Campbell
Give me more ways to cheat in expensive creatures in Orzhov colors
Ryan Sanders
Well, you can net deck to get a base idea if you're not familiar with most of the cards. Alternatively pick a win condition or even multiple and plug in cards that synergize to make that win condition real. If your goal is to mill then I also recommend some graveyard exile tech to keep yourself from feeding any decks that are based around resurrection
Alexander Lewis
Well, you start out not doing mill in EDH. I don't want to sound like a dick but mill is really ineffective in the format.
Jonathan Myers
I already have a deck I'm progressively buying but I'm just not sure what are the optimal cards for it and I have like 25 extra cards I could swap but I dont know
It's all good, I have combos and life drain as well, I'm running Phenax, Mortivore, Guiltfeeder etc... so I can swing at someone for 40 damage if I have to
Ian Reyes
I thought "dies to Doomblade" was just a meme, but now I get overly uncomfortable playing shit that doesn't have some tough-ass protections so that I'm sure I'll untap with it still on the board. This leads to some pretty uninteractive solitaire plays and if I don't lock people out, they"ll wreak ANYTHING I put on the board ('xcept lands, thank god), even if it doesn't do them harm
Josiah Parker
>Playing creatures
Lmao
Millchads dont have this problem
Ryder Lopez
Should I buy the remainder of my commander deck from star city games? On one hand, they have everything I need in stock, but on the other hand their business practices have been kinda shady..
Jose Price
Not the person you are talking to, but I agree. I tried doing mill a few months ago it only did reasonably good because nobody was aggroing all over me, but I still didn't have a real chance of winning. It has the same problem as, say, Gisa and Geralf zombie tribal - it's too slow, beneficial for your opponents and not flexible
>not using all the mill engine creatures pls
Josiah Roberts
>giving kike city games money >ever
no
Christian Jenkins
Y'know... reanimation?
Or just making black mana out of the ass so you don't have to
Lincoln Sullivan
dies to doomblade isn't a meme, but it is overused occasionally
things that are inherently strong vs doomblade >creatures lower than 4-5 cmc (4 cmc is really the cut off point where a creature becomes more efficient to remove with doom blade) >creatures with protection >ETB/LTB creatures
Ayden Phillips
Do you yell KAAAAZZZUUUUULLL whenever you cast him? Because if you don't, you're doing it wrong.
Isaac Gray
I feel that I must add, that commanders I play (or in general) are rarely below 4 and lack etbs, and that can be cast in response to greaves equip, so it is problematic
David Thompson
How do you play monored so that you don't feel a complete underdog? It was one of my favorites in constructed play, due to simplicity, but card advantage is something I just can't do without
Robert Taylor
>He has no partners decks
What's your excuse for not playing the vastly superior choice?
Carter Perez
Who in their right mind would sell these? And I'm not buying two different decks to get the ones I need. Also, they lack personality completely, the mere fact that you got two unrelated cards that are both commanders ruins the whole point
Jayden Brooks
I'm a commander inspired person, building around two mediocre mooks is not inspiring. I would much rather build a deck inspired by the abilities of the commander than a goodstuff pile.
plus partnerfags are usually insufferable
Ryan Sanchez
>group complains that I run a big mana Eldrazi deck because annihilator is a "feel-bad mechanic" >half of them are playing t4-5 infinite combo decks
Kevin James
I already run reanimation but the issue is when my hand is full of expensive fatties, since all the playable self-discard effects are in green, red and blue.
Samuel Torres
It's not, even when I Exhume It That Betrays t2, it can only get one person out, and that would usually be the most insufferable one
Black has ridiculous lot of them, some just make everybody discard
Ryan Foster
>Mfw when I hang up my turn 2 Sharuum deck and people are still pissed because I play Rafiq.
Jason Russell
>Thread Question
Dear god, where to start?
G/R Wort - not sure if I want to go goblin swarm, spellslinger, or something else
Marath - I wanted to build a fight deck and originally had Rhonas as the Commander but think Naya colours would be a better fit.
I want to build a Notable Dar aggro lands deck but again, don't k own how well that'll be.
And dear god Abzan. Do I go with Doran, Anafenza, Ghave?
There's more ideas I made note of but I'm not at my pc.
Choosing a commander is hard
Chase Smith
Try building something that doesn't have "roflstomp" written all over it, or at least use low-profile commander with the similar deck
Chase Parker
If you beat people fast enough you don't need card advantage.
Dylan Brown
Kinda hard when my meta is nothing but Teferi stax, Derevi stax, Tymna/Thrasios doomsday, etc..
Samuel Wilson
I cannot comprehend the hand of 7+3-4 cards (half of which are probably lands) that can take out 3 people with 40 life you the game, in red, of all things, and the amount of luck needed to goldfish it.
Jacob Howard
>stax player complains about literally anything Bitchslap his ass into the next century
Lincoln Turner
Some days I'm really tempted to do so.
Kevin Clark
I would only do it if I could partner Bruna and Gisela.
Brandon Green
>Black has ridiculous lot of them, some just make everybody discard Few of which are actually playable in the situations where you don't need the discard. I can only think of LotV and flip Lili.
Brody Allen
Is this thing good for ramp in a non-green deck with a CMC1-3 commander, or am I better off playing Gilded Lotus?
Bentley Reyes
Someone I've played with yells "DINOSAAAAAURS" whenever they attack with gishath and it is the most obnoxious thing in the world.
Blake Davis
Grenzo, Havoc Raiser + general fuckery is fun, things like Disrupt Decorum and Insurrection can steal games handily
Brody Fisher
I bought an arcade wizardry deck to get into the game, what are some must have cards for it?
Jaxson White
the pinball wizard is great in arcade wizardry
Luke Wilson
Underrated post.
Jayden Cruz
Use both. I can say that Boros loves it
Bentley Thompson
How do I make mono red work?
John Taylor
Daretti stax. All other lists are inferior.
Brandon King
Nigger, you're the only person to post after him. How the fuck could it be underrated?
Nathaniel Cox
>He has no partners decks But I do. Tana & Tymna hatebears and Sidar & Ludevic evasive creatures and card draw are some of my favorite decks
Juan Ross
>What commander do you want to play, but you can't decide on how to build? Gay dudes I can't decide if I want to go with a mill subtheme tokens or stealing so I'm sorta doing all three and it's working but it can be more focused
Cooper Brown
>turn 2 Sharuum deck I'm sure that's exactly how that deck played
Charles Bennett
once every three thousand games it would win on turn 2 if the opponents didn't have any answers
that counts as turn 2 bro
Bentley Fisher
I bought Atraxa as soon as she was released, and refuse to build infect or superfriends. Every iteration has been my most expensive deck, and I keep moving goalposts slightly. My win con has always been Darksteel reactor, but I've approached it 2 or 3 different ways, so far. Keeping 4 colors balanced (cost/quantity) and focused (similar/synergistic effects) is vexing, but I love witch-maw, so I'm not giving up.
It does me well in hope, WCS, it's a vulshock morningstar, BCS, it's a Dynamo and 2 commander damage.
Levi Morgan
No it isn't A turn "x" deck is a deck that wins or threatens to win most commonly on turn "x". My selvala wurm deck can win on turn 1 with a god hand that don't make it a turn 1 deck
Jeremiah Cooper
kek
Gavin Ward
>Adding raw power to decks >Not sure if I should invest in Premium boardwipes, Fetchlands or tutors first Kind of leaning towards Boardwipes lads, Damnation and Toxic Deluge just seem too powerful.
Alexander Jenkins
Rated post
Hunter Phillips
>want to build six separate gruul decks
Help
Grayson Allen
>unstable reprint theyre going to make some of the uncommanders legal at the very least. or do a semi annual legal thing, like april fools.
Matthew Gonzalez
generally tutors are the way to go as they can get anything you need for the situation. after that comes lands
dont buy damnation. there are better board wipes in black and it costs way too much for what it does. MAY if you are in monblack consider it but only then
Easton Ross
aside from spike i think all the commander should be legal as none of them are really that bad. no other uncard should be legal though as they are stupid as fuck
Charles Thompson
Just go with Xenagod, hard to remove, makes any decent creature a fucking train and you can run Berserk.
Connor Watson
angry omnath and xenagod are pretty fun along with ruric but nothing else really is that great in gruul imo. the rest of the commanders all play the same pretty much
Ryan Myers
Xenagod and Omnath are two of them, but Borborygmos Enraged seems fun too. And Rosheen Meanderer/Wort the Raidmother can focus on RG's cool and powerful sorceries instead of creatures. I mean, imagine a conspired Plow Under.
Anthony Smith
mary o kill and dr jumbles need thier cards of choice to be optimum because changlings alone only go so far. but the dr can work without hosts, seen a gw sliver build with him. baron is going to take awhile for most to solve, personally going for dash focus. grusela is goat reanimator. calcutron and X is super lockdown nofun bros.
Bentley Barnes
I've got a spare $20 to go into my Tana / Tymna deck. Deck buffs Tana, makes saps, buffs wide and uses Tymna to send saps out wide to draw a lot.
Usually overrun type effects are "I win".
Should I get Craterhoof or Purphoros? They cost about the same and would both be super good "I win" cards for the deck. Purphoros is a little more resilient, but Craterhoof could win it out of nowhere.
Logan Anderson
Or should I get anointed procession & mirari's wake instead
Carter Russell
This card is the best card.
William Baker
Vial Smasher + Kydele, and Tymna + Sidar Kondo here.
Noah Torres
>being this retarded
Aaron Nelson
Posted this last thread, I've got a Vorel counters deck and I want to build a golgari deck of some kind. I'm stuck between stone sisters, Meren, and hapatra. What do
Ryder Jones
>being the copy-paste partner-fag
Ayden Walker
>What commander do you want to play, but you can't decide on how to build? Pharika, Athreos, Mogis, Phenax, and Erebos
Tyler Evans
How opposed would you be to using RoboRosewater cards to play with in EDH?
Also what some goodstuff for Navagika here?
Michael Howard
Will Mindless Automaton go infinite with Mikaeus, the Unhallowed? Automaton will return to the battlefield after dying with three +1/+1 counters and to draw a card, you must remove two counters. Does that put a wrench in the combo?
Isaac Mitchell
I just picked up the cat precon to start playing with a couple guys i work with who also got the 2017 precons aside from the dragon one and one guy who already has a deck. What should i expect?
Robert Howard
Cat precon is all about stacking a bunch of buffs on one big guy and killing people quickly. Vampire precon is all about going really wide and having better cards on average. Wizard precon has no one clear direction and is kinda shit, but has two amazing commanders and two decent commanders that people can build around.
Connor Butler
No for a lot of reasons. You're right in that you can't activate the second ability if you only have one counter. The other problem is that Mikaeus will make it a 1/1 so it wouldn't die even if you removed every counter
Ayden Adams
What's a fun mono U commander, I don't have the cash for all the fatties for Braids.
Daniel Long
i thought i'd never build mono-u myself but i finally did for talrand
>get talrand on the board >cast cantrips >cast synthetic destiny or mass polymorph to summon the big fatties in your deck
Carter Bell
>inb4 someone calls you a poorfag Higure is really fun, and Mistform Ultimus is a great Voltron deck. Braids can work decently on a budget as well.
Wyatt Clark
X is great, if my play group allowed it he would go straight into sen triplets
Robert Collins
The wrench is put first by mikaeus' Lord effect. Same reason you can't go infinite with Ballista either.
Jace Gonzalez
i just built jalira and it seems fun. haven't actually run it yet. i bet you could build one for next to nothing.
Joshua Gutierrez
He's a Baral of laughs for the whole table!* *once everyone else has scooped
Evan Morgan
>build friend a deck for his birthday filled with cards i know he could never afford because he is a poorfag >he fucking loves it >feel great >fast forward 3 weeks later and no one in our group can beat it
what have i done?
Wyatt Morgan
What's the deck?
Christian Garcia
Fuck card advantage, just throw huge fireballs at people. Don't be a bitch. Xenagos. Last night I swung with a 37/37 double strike trampler. It was a great feeling
Jackson Brown
Mizzix's Mastery, Past in Flames, Increasing Vengeance, Recoup, Reiterate Red is the color of creativity. Build up a combo in your grave, then recast the pieces.
Nathan Powell
yidris storm
Wyatt Campbell
>Build a full-powered storm deck for what was likely a mostly poorfag/budget/semi-casual group >Be surprised nobody has beat it
There are two things to do: >Build everyone else in the group high-power decks for their birthdays, create a full high-power meta to balance things >STAX him hard up the ass
Austin Lewis
My friends and I are planning on building some EDH decks, most of us haven't ever played or built decks for this format before, and I myself haven't played magic in years. We're trying not to overdo it in terms of cost, thinking ideally under $60 but could go up to $90.
The above deck is kind of old though, do you guys have any suggestions of things to add/take out? I find the idea of continuously bouncing ninjas in and out of the board hilarious and fun.
I was also considering an enchantress Sigarda/Bruna, and maybe a ramp Azusa, but I'm open to suggestions for beginner/budget friendly decks.
Isaiah Butler
>ramp azusa >budget azusa is like 50 dollars on her own brotato. the budget zur cycling deck is kinda popular but super fun if you want a suggestion
James Hernandez
I am never going to stop shilling Higure. Higure, the Still Wind is cheap to build around, fun to play, and lets you shank your friends with an army of ninjas and faeries.
Nathan Edwards
I'm pretty sure the oversized commander card is like $18