Bright

What RPG rules set(s) would best simulate the Bright universe as it was presented to us in the movie?

Let me kick this conversation off by stating that D20 Modern, and thus Urban Arcana, did a surprisingly BAD job of capturing the flavor of the modern day - especially when it came to combat (gun fights). This should hardly be surprising to anybody because what they did was take a system (D&D 3.5) that was built from the ground up to support the high-fantasy genre (swords and sorcery) and tried to jury rig it to run combat and shenanigans of the modern day (which is more gun and explosive oriented).

I distinctly remember typing on the official forms asking about the rules for critically hitting a car during a chase, only to be told by one of the actual writers that cars could not suffer critical damage because they counted as constructs. I guess they never really watched any movies about tires getting popped, gas tanks getting lit up, or other components essential to keeping a car running getting taken out by a bullet or grenade.

That was just one of many examples I remember being brought up in the forums where action situations we commonly see happen in action movies set in the modern day was highly incompatible with the rules of D20 Modern/Urban Arcana.

how about the old D10 system from World of darkness? almost every power is descripted

I played an Urban [D&D] Fantasy with Savage Worlds and that worked well (these chase rules are awesome), but if you're not up for generic systems you'll need good systems for taking down hordes of dudes or being as badass as those Inferni badguys were.

Shadowrun
It is literally Shadowrun the series

A. its a movie.

B. Magic is more powerful in this movie.

C. the focus is on the world of magic playing together with modernity, which is often downplayed in Shadowrun for more Cyberpunk Themes and Corporate Action.

Yeah whatever, it's basically Shadowrun

Wod rules are designed to play mortals and every magic being is considered extremely op to a normal human

Gurps if you want more gritty.
Shadowrun if you want to play shadowrun.

B and C are subjective at best.

Its basically Shadowrun the movie.

Except not really, since it's still not Cyberpunk.
No Cyberpunk, no Shadowrun. And the Hacking also didn't do anything crazy like in Shadowrun. They literally just traced a cell phone call.

nWoD/CofD not so much.

the powers get in the way, but shanking a human and shanking a vampire works just as well.

>C. the focus is on the world of magic playing together with modernity, which is often downplayed in Shadowrun for more Cyberpunk Themes and Corporate Action.
Oh, so 5th Edition Shadowrun then. Magic is the metaplot focus now.

Call me when you're using these 2nd edition tables chummer

>threshold-based Opposed tests against NPCs
Nah

I'd say GURPS, but heroes with no magic/powers a;so get luck / destiny or some other kind of similar chance or even reality manipulating ability that makes things bend your way.

So Dark Lord wannabes get some powers granted by him.
Brights get their magic.
People with no magic or dark powers get "luck"

Movie very much felt like a good GURPS campaign with people shooting all over the place, dying left and right and only a couple of characters actually having a clue of how to kill people. With main characters actually pulling themselves more by luck, willpower and higher than average HT.

Even big bads didn't take good to a point-blank shotgun blast.

NightLife.

It's a gritty splatterpunk game with a d100 roll under skill/power system.

Shanked human in cofd dies. Shanked vampire gets mildly annoyed.

But anyway one could probably use core book + hurt locker

A. You're right.

B. Every Spell in Bright was cast with a pretty high Spell Force in Shadowrun measurements and Tikka even fucked up her Resist Drain roll. Besides that the wand could be some form of Power or Spell Focus.

C. Shadowrun gives you so many hooks that in which direction it goes depends solely on the GM.

This but Napoleon just won his Egypt campaign and he just fucking opened the pyramids. And fucking BAM, there's a fucking wand.
And all of a sudden the fucking Republic has a god damn wand and the kings know that if they want to continue ruling, that they have to go to war with Napoleon again.

Because the first Bright they find in France is an Elvish prostitute. And all of a sudden, she's a living artillery piece on the field and whole formations turn into smears.

You will never be an elf.

You know whole movie I was hoping for showdown between fed-elf and maybe that bald henchman. IMHO the feds were kinda underused and their dialogue was wonky.

heard the movie bombed. That's disappointing.

Not surpraising. Premise is kinda alienating to wider audience and movie has problems(dialog, ending fatigue, will smith imho is kinda charmless actor)

It doesn't have enough big names behind it to demand praise, nor does it pander to the sensibilities of critics. Therefore, it's bombing even though it should be accepted as a silly action film of reasonable quality.

not really, only the critics didn't like it

What's with elves and sunglasses?

sunglasses are for cool rich people

To be honest it does not deserve those 90% either

Fancy designer shades, fancy designer suits, city district restricted to elves and their servants. It kinda builds up their image. Compare how elf-fed dresses compared to his partner

Yeah, but literally every elf in is wearing sunglasses. There's no exceptions. There's a stereotype and then there's complete homogeneity. Do they have light-sensitive eyes or something?

again, they're rich and 'cool'

So kike puppets.

Exposition through graffiti is a neat idea.

Yes. We quickly got most of the world's history through it.
But at first I thought Jirak was a Tupac orc rapper, not the savior of the world.

Bonus: The Nine Races Army. Humans, Elves, Orcs, Dwarves (mentioned in the movie), Centaurs (there's a cop one), ?, ?, ?, ?.

I gotchu senpai

>Orc G.I fighting in Vietnam

Must be pretty brutal

I love that the first one is a refrence to animal farm, so not only was their book about the evils of communist, it was dark lord communism with elf pigs and orc horses.

I think it would have worked much better as a series. Kinda of like fantasy Alien Nation

Well, critics liked The Last Jedi overwhelmingly. So they are often wrong.

Oh yeah I was thinking about Alien Nation the whole time while watching this. Even the whole racism angle was done better there. Not to mention two main characters had better chemistry(with you need for buddy cop movie)

Whats a brezzik?

Really? I've only seen Angry Joe and Red Letter Media reviews and Joe was angry(badumtss) while RLM gave it resounding "meh"

...

Yes. Lot of 9/10 and 10/10. A masterpiece in deconstructing the Star Wars' take on the cultural monomyth in a post-modern neo-marxist way. Not my words, the general impression of most reviewers. You need a very high IQ to understand the Last Jedi, it's a masterpiece going in uncharted territories, probably the best Star Wars to date, etc.

If you have time for a laugh, read those articles. It's incredibly funny.

Majority of critics praised it to high heaven. Cant see why.

I've actually seen it described as a communist take on Star Wars. As there are no heroes, big names are actually bad, you got a commentary on the evils of capitalism in the casino place..

they look like maybe lizard people or demon people? I don't remember any tails in the movie.

As a leftwinger myself I have to ask who the fuck writes stuff like that. The movie has shitton of real "movie-problems" not related to politics. It's 6/10 or 7/10 at best

Btw. surpraisingly among people I know a lot of people who shat on Force Awakens defend Last Jedi

So from the look of it, the elves were able to use some magic despite not having a wand. I can only assume that normal magic is relatively common, and wands just jack the power level up 1000%

Though, are all magic users brights, or simply the ones capable of wielding high level magical artefacts like wands?

Seeing as Brights are pretty much used indiscriminately in place of magic user in the film, Brights are simply another name for wizards.

Might be that they have some undisclosed supernatural abilities unrelated to being Brights.

Also magic they use might be some earlier cast stuff that they created back when they had wand.

If its for RPG purposes, i'd probably want to make magic and it's users a little more common, say from 1 in a million to say, 1 in a hundred thousand, and schools having standardised magic tests with some lower level magical items (say, just gives you a burn instead of blowing you up)

Kinda like getting certain shots gives you a scar.

>So from the look of it, the elves were able to use some magic despite not having a wand.

The Elves using magic were members of the Inferni (Elf Illuminati), so maybe they're able to tap into magic that not many people (including other Elves) know exists?

The Shield of Light claims to know how to use magic but we never see them do (because they were all wiped out, I assume).

I feel you

>Centaur 0.1%
holy hell, their whores have to be overbooked two months in advance

So the world of bright has only Humans, Elves, Orcs and Centaurs? No dwarves?

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At least the SoL cell in the movie, considering the magic feds are interested in them it's probably a large organisation with multiple cells.

I couldn’t take the utter lack of plausibility of military operations by the Rebels and the Not Empire. It was like a little kids idea of how militaries operate.

I liked Bright it was at least plausible within its setting.

Thinking about it playing as a Shield of Light cell is probably a fairly good way for a game to go, since an underground organisation is probably closer in touch with the dark side behind the bright universe.

Time to infiltrate elf town boyos.

Theres probably countries in Europe where Centaurs make up a significant portion of the population. The larger races probably find it hard immigrating overseas.

Are orcs just a metaphor for blacks and elves for rich old white men or does it all go farther than that?

D20 can be patched in a few ways.
>armor as damage reduction
Exactly as it says on the tin. The AC bonus is now DR.

>hp cap
Your HP is your con score, and it goes up only by your con modifier each level (minimum 0). This makes gun fights MUCH more lethal, since it means your average durability human is vulnerable to pistols (2d6).

>mastercraft items
Expand how they do mastercraft, because basic rules are pretty much "Final destination, Glocks only). H&Ks, Glocks, higher-end ARs, Berettas, and even M&P 2.0 guns could all arguably be mastercraft given modern manufacturing.

>ammo types
Feel free to experiment with AP and JHP ammo. I think a supplement came out with that. Just balance it with new "damage reduction armor".

>magic items
Bottomless mags, self reloading guns, guns that have true-sight scopes, guns with underbarrel Cone of Cold, etc. Get creative.

Those are my tips as someone who ran d20 modern for a while

>Trigger Warning entertainment
I like this movie already.

Isn't elves have much higher percentage of brights in their population? At least it seems that's what was implied in the talk between the fed and the Shield guy.

So a couple of renegade brights for humans would be ridiculous but for elves it's not so surprising.

Oh and fuck the wealth system. Just use dollars and dont worry about taxes, because its not like a tax collector has ever harassed my ludicrously wealthy fantasy D&D characters

Partially a metaphor but also more than that.

In our world around 2000 thousand years ago we had Jesus, Bible and all that stuff laying foundations for many civilisations afterwards.

In their world they had Dark Lord trying to subjugate everyone and take over the world. And orcs almost unanimously served him. And everyone knows it.

What i wonder about is how they pick up brights. Test for brightness cant be "pick the wand And see if you blow up"

With is funny considering Dark lord was an elf. Tho you can say it's dramatic irony

Savage worlds are a nice simple system.

The worst system for a modern game is probably d20.

The elves are jews, right?

>movie that had the opportunity to politically grandstand and doesn't at all
>reviewers hate it, audience liked it

>movie for a series that has been largely detached from modern politics takes a few moments to politically grandstand
>reviewers love it, audience doesn't like it

And people call me a conspiracy theorist for saying Hollywood is a corrupt, nepotist, soulless clusterfuck responsible for the rock bottom quality of most modern movies.

A bit of a shame that it's only 10 races.

Considering that most brights supposedly elves I doubt that's how it happens. There are probably pretty costly tests that involve less dangerous magic items or a group of other brights weaving some type of sensory spell.

There is also probably a possibility of spontaneous casts for less stable or more powerful brights, though it should be very rare considering that Ward got through so many years without knowing that he is a bright.

Considering the Rare&Endangered part there is probably more.

Or maybe it's cheaper to put all of your extras in sunglasses rather than get a hundred pair of custom contacts?

Doubt the spontanous casting. Considering wards line of work he would likely turniej outlet bright early in his life

Well Dark Lord could go two ways - either he is really some kind of EVIL or just a bright conqueror from the time when the world was much more direct and brutal and everyone did fucked up things without hiding them (even nominally).

Why not just fuck a regular horse?

Well unless we go with some kind of divine source for magic brights should have started somewhere. So spontaneous casting is a must at least for the most powerful of them.

Regarding testing there is a problem of fed-elf being mocked by sol palahobo. You would expect someone in his position would be tested while movie implies that he would obły find out by touching the wand

Jesus was the dark lord.

Nah, definitely not. They still have Christianity.

Dark lord was probably some Roman elf emperor.

No Asian race?

Nips are already their own fantasy race.

I'd say "Mostly jews"

I have heard someone say it's being deliberatly shit on because Disney is releasing it's own streaming service and is trying to fuck over the competition by paying off reviewers to get shitty scores to anything Netflix releases.
Not a fan of netflix by any means but I hope disneys plan fucking fails and they lose billions.

Wealthy elite in general

no hands, no tits, no banter

Wealthy beautiful elite you might add. With added bonus of being the ones that pack the wallop

Jews don't have jewtowns protected by checkpoints.

And propably live for centuries

There was that lady in the nightclub who blinked at ward with the lizard/bird second inner eyelid

There was also a dragon during a skyline shot

Not that i agree with that user but what iż Israel

You do realize that in 4th Ed Shadowrun, deckers were literally a pointless build that were largely just replaced with everyone just having decent apps on their smartphones? You can legitimately slash out decking from Shadowrun without any actual reprecussions, and Street level games even today rarely ever actually fuck with having a decker.

Or just Manhattan

To be fair with jews it only seems like they live for centuries.
Elves seem to be just generic "well off" people.
While the mexicans are the orcs and the orcs are south Africans.

>what is Tel Aviv

After seeing the movie. I'd love to see remade as a series. The setting has so much potential to be fun and interesting. Cant help but feel like it was wasted

GURPS is easily the best choice. The races are pretty much the default interpretation in Fantasy, and with Thaumatology you can just pick whichever magic system you think works best.

Here, I'd say that it's something like Threshold-limited magery (you have a limit to total power spent, which slowly recovers, but lets you burn it all - exceeding your threshold causes anything from nosebleeds to rotting to exploding), with a Wand providing a massive boost to your safe threshold and allowing untrained latent mages to use magic.

Of course, you could also go with GURPS Technomancer, which has some similar thematics - modern-day fantasy, inhuman races - the big difference being that magic is more common, and works with technology.

>critics don't get to go to a fancy cinema prerelease and have people wank over how important they are
>critics have to watch it as it comes out with the rest of us slobs
>critics know what they say won't matter because it's essentially free to watch (everyone either has a netflix subscription or will pirate it)
>High concept film
>Buddy cop movie
>fantasy movie
It could have been the shadowrun citizen kane and critics still would have bombed it for all the above, reasonable reasons. This isn't even factoring likely "encouragement" from the big studios to not support this.

D-d-don't forget Max Landis is a rapist, user! He's literally Hitler!