warrior class fantasy lul edition
Discuss the lore of the Warcraft franchise and its application in and around traditional games.
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Was the warrior campaign really the worst?
It wasn't the priest campaign, so no.
At least Skyhold is kinda nice to look at.
it was pretty lame, but I think there are worse ones
the bigger problem is that every warrior on Azeroth gets tied into the dumb vrykul story
And they shitcanned the "Heroes of all sides gathered in the Halls" part to avoid hurting PvPer's feelings to see their dead faction NPCs acting friendly. And/or to make Odyn into a daughter-mindraping nazi who wouldn't have accepted any mortals till the invasion forced his hand.
>tfw state of Azaroth
What’s the Scourge doing in the new expansion?
not enough
gas the living
>we will never get the version of Skyhold with Orgrim and Lord Lothar constantly fighting and messing with each other
Still faffing about in Northrend, kept under lock and key by Beef Jerkey Bolvar.
With the way Bolvar's acting these days we'll see how long that lasts.
>ghosts of Orgrim and Lothar drinking and sparring
>spirit of the legendary last Anvilmar king
>Cairne
>Llane
>Broxigar
>the first Trollbane
>Grom
Why the FUCK did they think a bunch of no personality vrykul and titanforged were better warrior lore.
>Thargas Anvilmar trying to get along with all these dead people, especially Modimus
>Daelin grumbling about drinking with orcs
>Varian/Llane reunion
>Cairne/Grom reunion
>Ignaeus complimenting Arms Warriors on earning his best friend's sword
>Brox/Kur'talos reunion
>Marcus Johnathan looking for Reginald Windsor
>nobody knows what Mankrik is doing there, he's still alive, too
>Admiral Taylor and Nazgrim both mysteriously missing
>Admiral Taylor
He's still a ghost attached to my garrison in alternate universe Draenor.
Truly a fate worse than death
Kinda curious how that alternate universe’s Azeroth is doing.
Synopsis, please?
Cairne was always half warrior half shaman.
Apparently it never permanently existed. The traitor bronze and his sand could only stabilize Draenor, hell he may have only stabilized the continent and when the rest of the "False timeline" around it disintegrates we may have an Outlands 2.0.
You work for Odyn, a Titan Keeper that took his toys and left when the other Keepers raised up the Dragonflights to help them.
He also created the original Val'kyr by mindraping his adopted Vrykul Daughter and turning her into Helya, who eventually escaped with Lokin's help.
Apparently it's not a thing.
When Kairozdormu was forming it, he worked hard to insure that this alternate reality was a self-contained bubble in time and space.
Which is a pity. I really wanted an excuse to go to a pre-invasion Azeroth where Medivh is still possessed by Sargeras and all the old Human kingdoms are a thing, but not united. And the Elves are all still isolationists. There could be a great moment where Bitch Queen Sylvanas meets her younger, uncorrupted self.
Or Tyrande and Malfurion confront their other selves in the shade of a still intact World Tree. And Illidan still locked away.
And Cairne is still alive and leading the mostly nomadic Tauren around the Barrens.
Would be able to meet young Lothar and King Llane. A young King Terenas Menethil in Lordearon and even young, unyiffed Genn Greymane.
Can travel to Northrend and deal with the Nerubians who never fell to the Scourge, since there was no Ner'zhul Lich King.
As a warrior, you go back to the Broken Shore and end up fighting alongside a vrykul against a big demon, where you are both ultimately killed. Odyn witnessed your death, so he brings you to not-Valhalla to work for him. From there, it's nothing but titanic lore. The campaign synopsis from the Gamepedia wiki:
>The Gjallarhorn was sounded in order to rally the titanic Keepers from Ulduar. The Valarjar descended upon Azeroth and took control of the Legion portal in Felblaze Ingress, from which Hymdall opened a gateway to the demonic world of Niskara in order to rescue Keeper Hodir from his fel corruption.
True, but he was mined in the hall with said others.
fuk im drunk
>he doesn't just play vanilla WoW and get to enjoy intrusive NPC characters and a storyline that is actually really cool, rather than stupid. All the while getting to forget that everything that happened from TBC on ever existed.
What do you guys think the Aldrachi looked like?
Happy Winter's Veil, everyone!
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My thanks
Here's the REAL question: which is the lewdest allied race?
It's the nightborne, but I want it to be dark irons.
Humans or draenei. You'd think it was night elves, but they're prudish amazons who just happen to occasionally dress sexy.
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If they made the dark iron girls like that one image the grim patrons, you know the one I speak of, then all will be right with the world.
I can see Nightborne having addictive personalities, not so much Lightforged Draenei,
unless supremely repressed.
Nightborne. All drug addicts are whores.
"Bolvar, I had an idea. It involves leaving Icecrown, now hear me out"
I agree there. It's nightelves followed VERY closely by voidelves.
But Dark Irons deserve it.
If it's the one I am thinking of they aren't all that well drawn and are somewhat lacking in tone.
"I love it, let me call my player character, retard does anything for something shinny, I think I have a pet I can give him, like a raised toad or something."
>Not "Bolvar, I've been thinking."
INFERIOR.
It was more of a semi-rough sketch, but the proportions were appealing.
Happy Winter Veil!
Was that the one barely censored by the mugs?
>all these what-ifs
don't do this to yourself, user; that path is too dark
I think the Lich King is definitely still Ner'Zuhl pulling the strings and the entire destruction of his current body in Arthas was a ploy to remove the scourge from the spotlight.
Think about it, the Ebon Blade breaks free and aides the living to assault Icecrown and destroy Arthas, but "there must always be a Lich King" so another proxy for Ner'Zuhl is placed on the throne. Now the threat of Arthas is gone and the history of his misdeeds with him, but as you can see from the DK class hall the Lich King is still very much active, and due to helping defeat the Legion they're sitting pretty in Northrend and just putting plans into motion for another assualt on the living kingdoms. Mark my words we're gonna get WotLK 2 Electric Boogaloo and the DKs will have a class exclusive intro scenario where they ACTUALLY break free of the Lich King.
That would explain why Bolvar is so bipolar in the DK campaign. In one quest he's telling you to be honorable and respectful, in the next, he's telling you to go fuck with the Paladins just to be a cunt.
I've never bought into the destruction of Ner'zhul's spirit. I mean, Arthas is gonna overpower the will of the Elder Shaman and consume his spirit? Freaking Arthas?
I'm still disappointed they never followed up on Ner'zhul from WoD.
He died in some strange death dimension and he did give off a vibe that he'd be back by way of that dimension.
Maybe Arthas did overpower old Ner'zhul, only to have NuNer'zhul from the alternate Draenor find his way into the crown.
It's not even Ner'Zhuls innate power, it's the power used to imprison him. It's not just a fragment or part of someone's soul like is usually the case, his entire being was torn from him and placed in Icecrown.
Like most things about WoD, Ner'zhul's story was rushed, shitty, and made no sense if you stop and think about it for even half a second.
>Ner'zhul was a revered elder shaman respected among all the clans
>Shadowmoon were looked up to by the others for their wisdom
>Grom forms the Iron Horde
>literally threatens to butcher Ner'zhul and his entire clan for not being useful enough despite having been raised to see him as a big grandpa to all orcs
What the fuck. Not even getting into the fact that the Shadowmoon were the best shamans, so why the fuck would they have been considered weak and useless to the Iron Horde.
Alternate Draenor had some alternate takes on all the clans and their leaders.
Remember that original universe Gul'dan was Shadowmoon, too. He was Ner'zhul's apprentice.
Alt Gul'dan was a failed shaman apprentice cripple from some podunk village in the middle of nowhere.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Ner'zhul should have been the Horde contact character and the Alliance should have been the ones working with Durotan and the Frostwolves.
I think both Gul'dans were crippled fake shaman thanks to Chronicles volume 2.
Fuck. Those fucking Chronicles books ruin everything.
Yeah, they basically retconned that his harbinger cinematic backstory is canon to both universes.
Hell, we got off easy since early WoD mining had Gul'dan as being chief of the Stormreavers, a clan Gul'dan formed AFTER moving to Azeroth, until some intern presumably reminded them now stupid that was.
They did forget to remove the Stormreavers from Archaeology, though that left the explanation that it was the name of a dead clan of fisher-orcs that Gul'dan revived the name of.
To be fair, they reconciled the two backstories in Chronicle-he tricked Ner'zhul into pitying him with "my clan was like, totally killed by ogres plz help this poor cripple" and was accepted in.
A bit like the Vengence Metamorphosis form I think.
I always get Amazon vouchers for Xmas, is any of the WoW literature worth reading?
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The Last Guardian is absolutely worth it, Lord of the Flans is pretty good too.
Blood&Honor, Lord of the Clans, The Last Guardian, all of which are in Archive 1.
Rise of the Horde is decent.
Tides of Darkness/Beyond the Dark Portal are WC2 events starring Turalyon/Lothar/Doomhammer/Gul'dan/ect and are fine
Vol'jin's novel is the only modern book I can endorse even touching
>to stay away from at all costs
Cycle of Hatred, Night of the Dragon, Stormrage, Wolfheart, Twilight of the Aspects.
Night of the dragon had like, two decent points, something about dwarves being willing to smoke essentially any plany matter, and the Skardyn. And the Skardyn you can get the info on from the wikis.
And to top it off, the story makes zero fucking sense if you're troll PC.
>You will never have a Thorium Alliance led by AU Garithos using stolen Gnomish technology used in practical ways to subjugate the world
the arms warrior weapon sucks for everyone who's not a human, but it's just outright retarded for trolls
Why would Draenei be lewd?
They're prudish ancient survivors who are traumatized by hot orc cock
How the hell is a shitty god a Nazi? Where's his national socialism? Use the term tyrant or something, Christ.
Fucking minigamers man.
Was Dethorin /ourguy/ ?
Maybe they were eel people or something.
You fucking deserve it if you put it up with a thot named "Allurana"
>he has never read Odyn's book "Min Kamp" he wrote after getting jailed for the Stormheim Greathall Putch
>he doesnt know anything about Odyn's third way opinion rejecting the RvB duality
Get outta here and get some intellect enchants.
>you're the only troll not feared by this super-troll-killing sword
>because by the time you actually found out what it did, you didn't care
It almost makes me think the game isn't about sexy elves and disney furries.
>not acvepting the rule of supreme leafer Bolvar fordragon
Like sentient wheels with gaseous hair, two-dimensional limbs and eyes five times bigger than the rest of their bodies.
Aldrachi Warblades may be my favourite new artifact weapon lorewise
There is just something really cool about a guy dueling with fucking Sargeras himself for days
What exactly were the writers of Cataclysm trying to achieve with the Forsaken? Were they trying to decrease the number of their players to make the Horde more savage again?
We literally missed 1/3 of a story of WoD. The middle patch, featuring Shattrah City raid was scrapped
>tfw we missed the story of Yrel actually becoming actually a cool character
>we missed Ner'zhul returning
>we missed Teron'gor actually appearing before getting fat
>we missed some actual character development for Adolf Grommash Hellscream before his retarded redemption story
>we missed learning what the fuck is actually going on with the timelines
>we missed learning why the fuck are shrooms so dangerous in Draenor
>we missed what is Wrathion up to
>we missed what the fuck is Cult of the Damned doing in Tylor's garrison
worst part of WoD was not lack of content, but failed potential
I could just post .pdfs of the few good ones, if you want, at least the early stuff. They've got small formatting issues, but they're perfectly readable.
They were trying to appeal to the people who think that not having morals means you're just better at everything and super cool
You know, 13 year old edgelords
>Helya is considered unambiguously evil in these events
Worst part of WoD was the concept behind WoD
go on
I was around that age when I first played it and I hated it so much I temporarily quite the game.
Not all 13 year olds
Just the edgelords
Honestly, this. "We'll go back to meet the characters you knew and loved! They'll look different, have different abilities and traits, and have different histories, so they'll be 100% retcons, BUT THEIR NAMES ARE THE SAME, WOO!"
Fanservice, my ass.
>"Garrosh...my...son...?"
>literally never mentioned later
Bravo Blizzard
Alright. First off, "Of Blood and Honor", by old man Metzen himself. A short and sweet little story about why people used to like Tirion Fordring, before Wrath turned him into a space marine.
Also my favourite portrayal of paladins in Warcraft.
Odyn is an amazingly despicable character, when you think about it.
When people who he has no power over disagree with him, he throws a temper tantrum and leaves, jeopardising their common cause.
When people who he has power with disagree with him, he silences and subjects them to a fate worse than death.
And we are supposed to sympathise with this guy, for realsies?
no, Odin was meant to be a dick, but he's a dick on our side
And Chronicles were written from the perspective of Titans/Titanic Watchers so of course he will be shown in positive light and Helya as a baddie
Next up, The Last Guardian, by Jeff Grubb. Backstory for Medivh, Garona and Khadgar, as well as general insight into the start of the First War. Guest appearance by Cool Daddy Lothar.
The problem is that Odyn is written like that on paper but every time he appears in the game he's played straight as a generic benevolent defender of Azeroth, albeit one who likes to scream about valor, glory, and worthiness a lot.
Lord of the Clans, Christie Golden's first and strongest Warcraft novel. Origin story of Thrall, back when he was a cool dude.
Also my absolute favourite explanation of shamans in the entire setting, although Unbroken comes damn close (which you should be able to find on the official site).
because everytime someone talks about him, it's himself of one of Valarjar.
In one mage tower quest you learn he ordered to murder entire Sigvald family with assasins
Odyn's kind of mellowed out over all this time. Helya' meanwhile, has grown even more bitter, stolen more souls and ruined more lives than Odyn ever did, somehow shacked up with N'Zoth, and struck a deal with Sylvanas.
Last from me, here's Rise of the Horde, also by Golden. Durotan serves as our viewpoint character as the orcs slide into corruption and form the Horde. Also gives a lot of insight into the story of the draenei. It's not quite as strong as Lord of the Clans (in my personal opinion), but still a decent read.
Yeah but then the player is railroaded into beating up said Vrykul for daring to commit the horrible sin of wanting revenge for her assassinated family while Odyn hides in valhalla
Because it is literally stated in the quest that despite us needing this chick to unite the vrykul against the Legion, which Odyn knows, he would obliterate her without a care if she actually broke in to challenge him. Odyn is so petty that he'd risk the war effort just to smite someone for being justifiably pissed at him
Then she just kind of ends up not caring about the whole dead family thing afterwards and begs forgiveness
I'll contribute with the Warcraft 2 novels, here's Tides of Darkness.
Valtrois is a little slut