In fiction, we often see balkanization of USA, China, Russia, India and even Germany
But France tends to stay intact, unless the world is fucked beyond repair and reduced back to stone age. How would France balkanize, it wasn’t always a single country.
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Brittany, Normany and maybe Loire would join up together.
The north probably from Calais, Picardy, Paris, Ardenne & Burgundy.
Alsacae, Lorraine & Franche Comte would probably join forces with the German counties or maybe Switzerland.
Aquitaine, the Pyrenees & limousin would be together.
Italy might inavde the Alpes & Paca and the other areas would be a kind of neutral zone.
Corsica could leave easily.
A french basque microstate would have to deal with Spain though Spain is on borrowed time.
Brittany could secede.
Occitania might arise again.
More likely would Islamic city-states & actual French ethno-states appearing.
Poland?
Italy?
Switzerland?
Hungary?
Spai-
Sorry, couldn't hold the laughter. I'll go with Germany instead.
Play a game of EUIV without the Burgundy inheritance firing. Austria and the HRE tend to make it a nice little clusterfuck
>though Spain is on borrowed time
I don't know about France, but I would play a game set in Reconquista 2: Castilian Boogaloo.
Afaik France was unified well before other European nations and most any nationalist separatist sentiment from, say, Normandy or Burgundy is long since gone (except probably the Basque). I might be wrong tho
How about Russian reconquista of Warsaw Pact?
The French killed the shit out anybody who had the bright idea of not being French. If France were to fall apart you'd probably have Brittany, Corsica and the Basques forming own nations. The rest would nominally still remain France but mostly run by French warlords ruling over de facto independent states. So most likely an early 20th Century China style scenario.
The fate of Alsace, Lorraine and Nice is really up to what state Germany and Italy will be in.
>Germany collapses
>Hesse, Bavaria, Swabia and Baden become wealthy small nations like Austria and Switzerland
>the rest turns into Poland tier poorfags
>Schleswig gets annexed by Denmark again
>the poor parts can’t afford to let the rich parts go
>civil war
>weak Germany is partitioned by its neighbours
Countries with wast internal differences in income cannot be partitioned.
UNE ET INDIVISIBLE
On a more serious note, the most realistic split-offs from France would be Islamic. Not even kidding.
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In THE CURRENT YEAR (for another weak or so) there are people unironically discussing the merits of creating a separate Islamic state to prevent CIVIL WAR.
Keeping those elements aside, France spent the past two centuries greatly stamping in its own identity to the point where regional identities are next to dead, which is why only the most autistic speculative fiction splits it up. Shoudl shit really hit the fan Corsica is the first to go, as they're the only ones with an actually legit split-off movement.
Meme movements. Occitanie isn't even a thing, the Norman "independence" movement wants greater autonomy, the Breton "independence" movement wants greater autonomy, official acknowledgement of the Breton language and the return of Nantes (their traditional capital, now part of Val de Loire).
>Afaik France was unified well before other European nations
Mhh, I guess you could say the Hundred Years War is where France really had its "unification" so to say.
>and most any nationalist separatist sentiment from, say, Normandy or Burgundy is long since gone
>long since
Not really m8. By the time of the revolution, less than 25% of the population spoke French at all (and even then a minority natively). "French" was the language of Paris. Because the French Revolution revived the idea of popular sovereingity, the French "people" had to be invented then as well. The real destruction of regional identities happened with the Jules Ferry laws in the late 1800s, and only by about 1950 would regional identities be truly dead. Occitanie could be viable in a situation where France loses WW1 for example, but I'd say that's about the latest where it's plausible.
Britanny, Basques and Corsica split.
Everything else has been blended into neutral French with no local identity to speak of, except some remote parts of Alsace, where a tiny independantist movement survives, but the overwhelming majority of Alsacians see themselves as purely French.
Fringes might join neighbourhing country just to avoid chaos, though even French Catalans would probably not try to build their own separate country.
>implying it wouldn't just be the Basques and their gypsy mercenaries taking over all of Spain and some of Morocco too
>though Spain is on borrowed time.
That does make me wonder why Spain never made any concerteed effort to Castillianize the country. It's obvious to anyone that Castille is the cultural heart of Spain, the "Spanish" language is Castillian and all of Spain's former colonies speak Castillian. Everyone knows their minority languages are irrelevant, but why did the Spanish never have something akin to France's Jules Ferry laws? Was Castille for some reason never capable of fully consolidating itself within Spain or something?
Too busy with siesta and flirting with communism to establish cultural hegemony.
From my limited knowledge of Spanish history, perhaps the Spanish monarchs just never gave enough of a fuck, just like how they didn't spend any of the ridiculous amounts of gold and silver they shipped over from the Americas on actually economically improving the country, and pissed it all away on wars and their own fancies, leaving Spain to sink into obscurity once that source of revenue dried up.
They did. During Franco's regime in particular peripheral cultures were pretty harshly repressed.
It obviously didn't work.
The point in time that monarchs started giving a shit about the cultural uniformity of the people they ruled actually started well after Spain's colonies had stopped being a money press for the crown.
>it wasn’t always a single country
The core of France was united under a single banner since before the 10th century, the only regions that can be considered relatively new additions are parts of eastern France, Corsica, and Brittany, and even then the only regions with active separatist movements are relatively small including Basque country, Savoy, Northern Catalonia, etc. Pretty much France has a much greater sense of political unity than Germany, in part due to movements throughout French history to Francisize territory under its control, and little to no history of true autonomy. After the civil war happened a decade before Germany ever united and Alsace was annexed by France before the concept of a united Germany even really existed.
well by the time of franco's regime it was already to late to properly enforce a culture
the time between napoopan and ww1 was the real window of opportunity for it.
> poor parts doing anything
> implying East Germany isn't going to pack up an leave first just so they can close borders and not accept any refugees any more
>Spain is on borrowed time
People have been saying that for centuries and Spain is still there. It's probably going to outlive Italy, Germany and Russia in the end.
Spain truly is the strongest country in the world. It persists despite centuries of trying to destroy itself.
>The real destruction of regional identities happened with the Jules Ferry laws in the late 1800s, and only by about 1950 would regional identities be truly dead.
How come this sicceeded in France but failed in Bohemia, Poland and Ireland? What is the French secret?